Arab Culture?
I saw something strange today but it seemed wrong in every culture. Maybe this woman over reacted and it is not typical of Arab culture.
Today picking up my kids I saw a girl hug another boy in her class, now bear in mind they are 5 years old. The boys mother who was there to pick him up starting shouting, la la la. (No, no, no)
When the mother of the girl asked what the problem was the Arab lady said it is not allowed her culture for boys and girls to touch. The western woman replied they are only children it dies no harm.
Now can my Arab friends confirm this is Arab culture or was this woman being extreme?
Dont start a discussion with a "idiot",. The will drag you down to their level and beat you on experience,.
But if you allow it I will toss out this part (troll" them ;) and write put this (just ignore them)
Now this fits your size just perfectly.
Enough replies everyone, I have my answer. This lady was just a bit of a weirdo and best to ignore her. (I pity her poor kids though)
little 5 year old boys and girls can not give a goodbye hug,.. but grownup men can sleep together legal in Qatar ;)
but when a opposite side sex friend stays over at my place (in the other bedroom) then it is illegal by law
the are against gays but the DO PROMOTE it more then in the west
40 labour workers in one trailer,no woman allowed,.what do you think what happens there if you didn't touch a female for upto 2 years.
HOW HYPOCRITE this place is ;)
you made my day.
It's only that Arab lady will do....as I know, Arab ladies are not so selfish.....they can understand that nothing will be there in those kids's mind of just having a hug.....
start having crush in the grade 1 , some QLers confessed it .....
Rip Cord,,, I like your Positive way of thinking.
I don't know why everyone is worrying about gays at the world cup in 2022 as Qatar is a gay paradise. YOu can walk the streets holding hands, kiss other men and hug them, sleep in the same room and just hang around with boys all the time and everyone will think it is perfectly normal.
I'm arabian, lebanese and it's ok or more than ok also,there's difference between khaliji people and middle east people :D LOOL
Marco ,, No, I used to finish my dish every time :p
BTW MODS ban Marco Bcs he posted weird nude pictures for a pervert Frog :/
Suli:did he? DID HE?? *_*
Marco ,,
My parents used to tell me
"Finish you dish or (Homo monster) will come to your dreams" :O(
Stone Cold: Well, then I guess you're a a homophobe?
Stone Cold,, Well, I do it and I don't feel gay
Maybe bcs I am not
Remember, it is not about what you Do, it is who you ARE
Stone cold..then don't go to France :P
and that kiss..kiss..kiss greetings makes me feels like a gay
its definetly extreme i did not have this problem growing nor do i know anyone who has
Some arab communities think it's ok,others do not.It's very diverse.
RIP: Another uneducated post from a seemingly well-educated person
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the fact that the Arab world stretches from Morocco across northern Africa and the African Sahara out all the way to the Persian Gulf it should be emphasized that there is no “one” Arab culture or society.
The Arab world is full of rich diverse and sometimes
( sometimes very fragmented ) communities.
So therefore what is acceptable in one Arab community might not be acceptable in another.
Sulie has answered it...:))
Illegal hugging? really? LOL!
It's not the hugging that is illegal it is what else they do. Why does Qatar allow such open prostitution? It is beyond me.
However we are talking about five year olds giving a farewell hug not people selling sex
Rip do you also approve and get involved in the illegal hugging's at the Radisson parking between adults
If they were 12 I could more understand the mothers reservations, even though I still think she is wrong but these are innocent kids and she is giving them bad ideas
such hypocrisy of some.
Yep I agree...because hugging other boys is absolutely acceptable..!!As is kissing and holding hands......
AB it was kinda normal where I grew up.
Yes each are individuals but I guess she should reappraise where she sends her son. Maybe a all boys school would be better. (When he can hug and kiss other boys and no one will think it is strange)
Plus...if you don't want your children to mix....do not send them to schools that have mixed sex and mixed nationalities...It's quite simple really.....
I think race has something to do with it since the little girl is an Arab and the little boy from the West.
Unusual for 5 year olds to be hugging the other sex anyway!!!
I agree with the mother whatever culture....It's just weird!!!
Rip Cord,, Actually I can't explain her attitude she is an individual As nomerci said.
For me in my childhood we were playing (boys and girls) in the yard till we became teenagers.
But people are different,, aren't they?
Well rip, I guess you'd have to say that there are some rather weird individuals in this world....it's unfortunate though that kids have to learn this so very early.
Sulieman thanks for an Arab answer. I didn't think it was Arab culture to stop two 5 year olds hugging, it must just be this woman's perverse idea of gender roles.
I feel sorry for the mother who has to try and explain why some crazy lady started shouting out them. How do you explain something so absurd?
With respect to all, None of you is Arab
So
Q: Now can my Arab friends confirm this is Arab culture or was this woman being extreme?
A: Assuming the story is for real, she is being extreme, it is not the Arab culture
Come on they are only 5 years old, and didn't do something needs that reaction.
But finally, your children, and you are free to raise them in your way.
How about we look at each other as human beings.
We are all the same, want the same things, breathe the same air.
Why can't we be nice to each other? What is wrong with hugging and looking at each other? Why is it made out to be something dirty when it is only human?
so you pick and choose whichever suits you, right? we are talking about hugging of two 5 yrs old kids for god's sake...not two adults who are unmarried.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=z2rL6NDoyKg
We r not talking abt work or war here..abt mixing n hugging
It seems ur not understanding..i leave it here itself...have a nice day
BOXBE...really? Were you there living with him? So what happened in the battle fields when women were joining the fighters to give support. Was he always speaking behind a curtain in a desert? So when he went to buy stuff from the market or when he was dealing for Khadija as her employee, was he talking to women behind a curtain...man...go educate yourself. So what happened when he did his Hajj, was he always behind a curtain/barrier? Man, come out of the box. How do YOU talk to women in Qatar, to Filipina women at the shop in KFC, do you talk behind a barrier?
Important s not whether im asian or arab...imp s i follow quran n sunnah which s the same for both asian n arab...btw im an asian born n qatar
We r not talking abt equality here...it s abt mixing....equality is for both ofcourse..but mixing is not allowed...our rasool always had a barrier while talking to women...we should educate our kids wht quran and sunnah says so thy r aware about it...again i was not talking abt equality...get the diff between equality n mixing...:)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/fahad-faruqui/islam-gender-segregation_b_650180.html
Good read for those who want to think outside the box.
When God Talks to Women, He Does so and when He Talks to the wives of the prophet He Does so in a clear language. If He Had Wanted, He Could Have Said it to all women.
What a hypocrisy that Arabs let non-marhram drives their wives, daughters. During the times of the prophet, most people were traders and there were markets..Don't come and tell me those women and men were not interacting with each other. Don't tell me all those women were always accompanied by a Mahram at that time. These are new stuff Saudis imposed on people. What God Said to women is to lower their gaze and cover them properly to protect them against the desires they may create unintentionally in men, which is human.
I bet BOXBE wears his lungi and chappal and go to work...I bet he does not wear an underwear or wear socks or shoes....he does not say good morning, shake hands,he does not have a TV or uses any of the inventions coming from the west and I am sure he does not even speak the language of the western people...he is such a pure Asian.
Nomad_08...what you said is a point to reflect on.
BOXBE you are an extremist my dear. People like you throw mud on this beautiful religion of Islam. Show me one verse from the Holy Book imposing segregation of the sexes, show me just one single verse, not the interpretation of some perverted scholars. Don't come with some verses to generalise things.
your right boxbe and most of the Asians will forget there own values but try to copy other western culture in there daily life just to show off people that they are very modernised
Also what the mother did was good..No need to mix arab culture with western culture or western culture with arab culture...there are lot of differences in both the cultures
Asians speaking for Arabs on Arab culture? LOL!!!
arab culture does not allow kissing of male and female...western culture does allow
Since the mother was an arab and according to her culture what she did was right...She did not break the norms of her culture
hats off to the mother...appreciate the mother who stopped her kid at such small age from going out of culture
That mother is educated her boy to disrespect women from an early age.
so school is no more an educational place...it is more of a hugging place
This is how it all starts...:(
Well the conservative mother shouldn't send her kid to a British school if she is not comfortable with the culture. Plenty of Arab ones to choose from. Shouting at five year olds is not on
You are right when saying both the mothers are correct.
Generally speaking, a problem with this civilization is people do things blindly in the name of culture and traditions and don't realise their implications in today's world. This is no more a closed society.
Also, advising children on their actions requires parents to explain things as to why actions are deemed right or wrong. Just shouting at them they were wrong without explanation will not satisfy the inquisitive mind of the child.
At 5 he is just too tender and innocent to understand whats wrong or right in this regard.
People only becomes malicious when they become adults, children should be allowed to enjoy their innocence especially when interacting with fellow children.
is a good stage to inculcate values ....
difference is one looks up and other one down ....
natural reaction from both the mothers .. !
I agree with FathimaH as well.
RIP I wouldn't say ALL Arabs are like that. May be Gulf Arabs are more prone to be like that and kind of conservative too. However, I do agree about this early conditioning you mentioned. As a parent I always encourage my kids to make friends and interact with the opposite sex. I believe this is a cultural thing amongst them Arabs. May be she did not realise what impact this can have on the young minds. At least you did.
I am not Arab, but I interact a lot of them from different arab countries. The only arab I have not met here are Comorians. Otherwise I have met them all (not to be taken literally).
Good point. Should be boys only school for her little one.
You would be surprised at how childish some grown ups can be.. Trust me I have met far too many! And yes they pose as a real source of confusion to children. Cos had she really been of a culture against boys and girls getting physical in their play, then would she not have chosen to send her golden boy to a boys only school and not chosen co-Ed.
I guess you all assume too much!
What can you have against a five year old?!?!
At that age all kids are innocent. Her behaviour confused both kids.
assumed RC was single too..We are quite a presumptive bunch!
I wouldn't go so far as to assume it's the case with ALL Arabs. Maybe in certain societies and that too among certain families perhaps.I do know Arab kids who's parents have no such qualms. After all kids will be kids, innocent and playful, and there is a designated time and age for all lessons in life.
That said maybe the mother just didn't like this particular girl hugging her son for personal reasons and made culture as an excuse!
Oh I see. I can't say I agree with it but at least I understand it is part of their conditioning now from a young age
you have kids????..this changes everything..and yet it doesn't:-)..my comment doesn't mean a thing btw:-)
Yes they are discouraged from a young age so they know it's wrong.