What is the point?
What is in it for the ones that get there?
Let's leave the purpose of hell for another thread.
I invite you to ponder.
You can quote scripture or Sura's etc if you want but you must expand upon them with your own thoughts.
it's like if i live a good life, i'll get my reward after i die?!?!.....what the smurf?!?! can god just give it to me when, mmmmmmmmm, maybe when i'm 40 or something?.....or when i can still enjoy it, right?...
Pastor Fred Phellps to name but one, then there is Ted Haggard, Jerry Falwell, Mother Teresa, various Popes, the Crusades - and that is just christianity.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
Sorry am not religius person but from my point of view, Heaven is in this world not after dead thing, you can find heaven when you help other people, love other people and do goodness to other people. Easy example, when you smile to someone and the person smile back at you thats heaven alright to me. call me crazy I dont care.
Everybody is right everybody is wrong, it depend where you stand
'nonreligous do good things for the sake of goodness.'
"and they dont have the criteria for the good and not good.. and how good is the good and how bad is the bad!"
Sorry zambo but that is nonsense
Is this the criteria you were referring to?
Genesis 6:13
"And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth."
There's a lot of violence in the world these days. God knew, though, that the best way to end violence is to kill every living thing.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
and beyond what we can see or percieved about heaven are more and amazing....religious speaking within that heaven lies the paradise and hell...heaven is the abode of souls it where our souls reside.
speaking of souls it is the kind of gaseous form that consist our body...see our body contains liquid, solid and gas as well these are forms of matter.
thats the differnce between religous and non religious the faithful do good deeds for the sake of God while the ,so called,nonreligous do good things for the sake of socialisation.
when we say heaven it encompasses many meanings for some it means the paradise,to others is what everything beyond the sky while for others is simply the feeling of being in a pleasantextraordinary condition. and these are my own understanding not taken from any books.
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i just don't get it....
i mean the reward system in religions.....
it's like if i live a good life, i'll get my reward after i die?!?!.....what the smurf?!?! can god just give it to me when, mmmmmmmmm, maybe when i'm 40 or something?.....or when i can still enjoy it, right?...
just don't get it.....tsk tsk tsk....
"all thinking men are atheists"
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"The grass is always greener...over the Septic Tank"
I'm quite looking forward to the next life sorrounded by sirens and passing my time playing golf, lazing around sun kist beaches and naughty things...
I think many people find the idea of nothingness and death scarey so they create something to make themselves feel better.
Heaven is the carrot. Hell is the stick. Life is when you get hit by so many dumb carrots and you gotta lean on a stick!
Hav gone nucking futs, woohooo!!
Note to self: Should get more of that stuff i'm smokin!!
Pastor Fred Phellps to name but one, then there is Ted Haggard, Jerry Falwell, Mother Teresa, various Popes, the Crusades - and that is just christianity.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
the reverse is also true,
many do evil acts to secure their place in heaven if so decreed by their religious leaders.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
“Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?” Robert Browning
Mandi
Sorry am not religius person but from my point of view, Heaven is in this world not after dead thing, you can find heaven when you help other people, love other people and do goodness to other people. Easy example, when you smile to someone and the person smile back at you thats heaven alright to me. call me crazy I dont care.
Everybody is right everybody is wrong, it depend where you stand
'speaking of souls it is the kind of gaseous form that consist our body'
So you have seen a soul then zambo?
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
it should read:
'nonreligous do good things for the sake of goodness.'
"and they dont have the criteria for the good and not good.. and how good is the good and how bad is the bad!"
Sorry zambo but that is nonsense
Is this the criteria you were referring to?
Genesis 6:13
"And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth."
There's a lot of violence in the world these days. God knew, though, that the best way to end violence is to kill every living thing.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
and beyond what we can see or percieved about heaven are more and amazing....religious speaking within that heaven lies the paradise and hell...heaven is the abode of souls it where our souls reside.
speaking of souls it is the kind of gaseous form that consist our body...see our body contains liquid, solid and gas as well these are forms of matter.
and they dont have the criteria for the good and not good.. and how good is the good and how bad is the bad!
thats the differnce between religous and non religious the faithful do good deeds for the sake of God while the ,so called,nonreligous do good things for the sake of socialisation.
penny of course! isn't obvoius?
we can still be good people and not believe. You do not have to be religious to be a good person.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
If we can strive to be better human being by believing in such a place, then isn't it worth it ?
behave or you won't to Springfield.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
At least I have info on 'heaven'. I don't have an info who Pete is. LOL
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
while for some is simply nothing its existence is denied so ungrateful to give thanks to the one mighty being who perfectly created it!
Do you honestly think such a place exists?
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
when we say heaven it encompasses many meanings for some it means the paradise,to others is what everything beyond the sky while for others is simply the feeling of being in a pleasantextraordinary condition. and these are my own understanding not taken from any books.
first it is to serve mankind and one apparent purpose is to guide the traveller...
it holds/controls/shelled the universe
I would hate the idea of doing nothing forever. That is why I don't believe in it.
When I am dead, I am dead, gone, no more, deceased etc etc (Dead Parrot sketch - Monty Python)
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
without end!
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
hopefully get stoned.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
forever!
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
It is always the lost that need my guidance
I think for people who believe in religion; it is a way to make death accecptable. As in, 'you are going to a better place'.
It can also be used to control people, 'as in you won't go to Heaven if you do that'.
For me, when you die you are dead and that is it.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.