Mohamed, his companions and holyness of sex
As i have told several times, i should become muslim if my love and i decide to marry.
Today, i went to Lisbon's mosque to talk with Sheik David Munir about it and he gave me 2 books and some panflets, where i found an interesting reply by Mohamed to his companions concerning sexual intercourse with wife and decided to write it here.
"The prophet told his companions that they will be rewarded even for having sexual intercourse with their wives. The companions were astonished and asked: "How are we going to be rewarded for doing something we enjoy very much?" The prophet asked them: "supose you satisfy your desires illegally, don't you think you'll be punished for that?" They replied: "Yes" so he said: "by satisfying it legally with your wives and you are rewarded with it." This means they are acts of worship."
Source: Concept of worship in Islam by WAMY( World Assembly of Muslim Youth ).
I'll be reading more and eventually make other posts regarding what i'm reading about Islam.
And no, i may convert but will always be the racional guy most people know ;)
I thought Quran says, "marry one". One means WIVES?
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
please continue to post...we want to learn those
RS: I'm gonna convert ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
So you are buying the girl from her parents...since Islam doesn't allow Muslim women to marry non-muslim men... :D
Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!
- Jalaluddin al-Rumi
Well, we already started the process in the embassy, now i need to deal with documentation, presently i'm also waiting that her family tells me what do i need to pay them to marry her :)
You shouldn't be offended but jealous, she's so pretty and a wonderful girl and all i think is that if this is a dream, i don't wanna wake up :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
indeed you offended me with your bride lol. kidding. well i believe the person should speak for him/her self so muslim women should speak for themselves. whether they are fine with polygamy, hijab or not. i am usually disturbed by western feminists talking on tvs about muslim women and wat they wear or their rights.
on the other hand, i am doing well buddy. what are your plans ? when you flying?
Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!
- Jalaluddin al-Rumi
RS: It was told to me by muslim women, some of them are friends of my bride. Sorry if i may have offended you in anyway. On the other hand, how r u buddy?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
amirhelmy are you fan of Hitler?
Platao who do you think should speak for Muslim women? Western feminists? Non Muslim men? Muslim Men ? or Muslim women for themselves.?
Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!
- Jalaluddin al-Rumi
DMS: I belive that muslim woman aren't accepting to be just one of the wifes but the only one.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
good point winn
I really can not understand this "multi-marriage"?
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
OMG! Look at that avatar!! Ooopss!
amirhelmy: What makes you put one of the most hated 'symbols'of crimes against humanity as your avatar?
Do you really think any sane person would come to you for guidance on religious matters when you project such a face?
hello! i've read ur comment, and u were interested in knowing more about islam, if still interested, u can contact me. hope you will.
Brit: lol, ahahahahahahahahahah
Brit/Alexa: Would be a pleasure to receive you 2 here, regarding Abu, i can get him a spot on 1 of my aquariums so he can talk to the fish all the time he wants ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
I think we keep digressing.. I am willing to contribute for an air ticket for Abu, to fly over to Portugal and sort out all issues Palatao has , once and for all..:o)
SUBAHAN ALLAH!!!!
RS: Thanks, i'm still reading the 2 books they gave me at mosque, will try to post everytime i find something interesting :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Platao really good one, yes its true and its understandable for the rational human being.
thanks buddy for posting . keep doing it.
Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!
- Jalaluddin al-Rumi
Gracias Senyorita ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
hi platao. 2books and some PAMPHLETS :)
goodluck on being converted..
"mi casa es tu casa"
lol winn
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Woohoo!! time to earn some brownie points!! or is it sex miles??
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Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like expecting the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian!!
Spiritism
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
Brit: You are right, i posted it because of a panflet i received, at the mosque, and also because it sounded funny
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
Gypsy: lol, i agree with you sex is natural, people should do it in private an not in the street as dogs do ;)
I hate to be allowed to be with gf but not allowed to simply kiss her.
Babydoll: All religions are beautifull, but scholars always manage to spoil them. As far as i have read, Islam has some similarities with spiritism (my religion) ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Gyps..
Sex is natural.. with whom, when and where makes its legal or illegal in a society.
Is it legal in your term if its with a minor on the road. thats also sex and can have babies too..
Like you said..two concented people,,which is a condition makes it legal.. otherwise??? ..its rape and illegal.. but still its sex.
For a logical person, I find your arguments illogical.
There is one basic neccessity here. The belief or following of a religion.
Since, you, like others are athiest, then obviously you will disagree with the concept - and you would be correct.
However for those who are religious and believe that sex outside marriage is illegal, then this applies to them..
I still believe that Platao was being a mischievous in posting this issue, but at least it led to a discussion.
And if u wanna act .. of course with dignity and good attitude
unless you are a who** and bi***
-as a profession lol!
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
Sorry, still don't see how sex can be illegal.
marriage is SACRED in every religion...
gypsy.. ur right its natural.. but your not an animal like as a DOG to have s*x in the street right.. if in nature that where in the highest position of animals WE're better that dogs.. to act properly
MARRIAGE however is the proper act or formality that every religion follows..
-just one opinion-
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
i dont think gypsy is imposing anything on anyone,... the way i see it, she's just expressing her personal view on this..
The only thing that makes marriage anything is a signed slip of paper. Otherwise it's simply a state of mind.
But be careful.. its all about taking care of your health as well..millions suffers due to indecisive acts that could end up messing up their health-body-
-your body is a temple-
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
But dog's having sex in the roads is natural. Sex is how babies are born. If it's between two consenting adults and doesn't harm anyone, how can that be illegal??
When you're sick breathing can also spread disease, but you don't hear about people making breathing illegal.
is a dowry.
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Since Allah has given me a brain, it would seem like a sin not to use it.
It's like an article in the newspaper about "Sex Offenders" arrested. Where I come from, you're a sex offender if you rape or molest a person or force an underage child to perform unspeakable acts on you, but this was about two Indonesians who were deeply in love and caught in their sponsor's house. After imprisonment and deportation they were planning on getting married back in their homeland.
How can love be an offense? Maybe shiism is the way to go: "Really officer, we weren't having illegal sex, we were just being married for an hour!"
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Since Allah has given me a brain, it would seem like a sin not to use it.
dont try to impose
It is legal if it is between husband and wife...Otherwise it will be like Dogs doing sex in the roads..Because of this illegal sex there are such related diseases in the world..Leave it if u dont feel it is right but try to impose ur style on others
What I'm saying is that it's natural, it's a natural function of our bodies, like breathing or growing hair, it's ridiculous to make it illegal.
You're not attacking muslim coz you'll gonna be one..
for that matter god speed..
and muslim is good religion like yours and mine its just new and when you get used to you'l appreciate even more..
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
architect: Great, thanks, i'll check it out tonight when i get home ;)
Babydoll: Your bf was probably raised as a muslim man, while i wasn't ;)
Before someone says i'm attacking Islam, no i'm not, you all recognized that education on the middle east is different from Western education .
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
Here is the torrent link to the movie "The message - the story of islam" in english: http://www.mininova.org/tor/673388
---Life is Fragile, Handle with Prayer---
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
Babydoll: Love always prevails and that's the main reason for me to convert, i don't want her familly to abandon her.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
marry her and do what it takes to be with her..
MAKAHIM.. what's the main title of the MOVIE??
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
I thought you could educate me. It is ok. Thanks
Mahakim: I'm portuguese, but my gf is morroquian
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Mahakim: Is it in english?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
I want to know more about Morrocco.
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HE WHO DARES WINS
Babydoll: Yes, that's the main prob, my gf will have probs if we are caught, like i'm foreigner nothing will happen to me.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Most of our friends know about Islam as much as they hear in the media. The Mullah's have been made the trade mark of the religion. I advise all those who want to know about Islam to start with by watching a Movie (The Message). It is a very interesting movie and will answer most of your questions. The authenticity of the movie has been guaranteed by the University of Al Azhar and the historians.
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
me missing realsomeone
whats so funny Gyps.. it becomes illegal when its not your legal partner with whom you indulge..
walkin become illegal if you walk in a no entry zone..
Growing hair will be illegal for a US marine.. LOL
No, in Morrocco, 2 individuals of different sex can't be together single at an house and can't even kiss lips in public.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
That means she is fulfilling her desire illegally as per her book?
Thats sweet.. iam going out with a muslim .. so far i dont know if i could marry a muslim..
thats why keep posting about islam.. wanna get to know more..
:)
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
FS: No, i don't need to convert to have sex, need to convert only to marry her
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
dont tell me that you just wanna convert because of SEX..LOL
fs: LOL, i'm always telling my girlfriend that i'm addicted to her, and i really am :)
Pie: Exactly ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
But remember, you can´t get too much of a good thing
just eat another pie
Too much of everything will ruin your life..lol
fs: sEX IS BEST DRUG OF THE WORLD ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
if you want to live without rules and principles then dont complaint if someone else also wants to live in the same...
Jeez... Do you really think Sex is as important as breath? LOL something which you cannot live without?
I know, but it's just funny, illegal sex to me sounds like saying illegal breathing, or illegal walking, or illegal hair growing.
Btw...Where is reaslsomeone?
Gypsy: It's their word not mine ;)
Brit/FS: lol
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Plato sounds like people with dual personality..lol
Sometimes I get the feeling that you are not as innocent as you make out to be..
I love the term illegal sex, it just makes me laugh and laugh.
That is more like it. May Allah protect you from all sin.
Jazakum Allah Khair these informative posts.
PhillyEagles, please do post more about it, i'm leurning ;)
Asanas: Sure, i'll be sharing my discoveries with folks here :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
This selection was taken from a larger hadeeth which was collected by Imam Muslim. Some of the prophet's companions went to him and complained that the rich Muslims were able to get more reward from Allah than they were because they were not able to give charity like the rich people could. Then the prophet mentioned several things that a person can do which they will be rewarded for (If you want I'll post them later). The last thing the prophet mentioned was the reward for having relations with your spouse.
One of the points of this hadeeth is it shows how merciful Allah is to His creation. He has legislated His religion in such a fashion that even the poorest person can do certain acts of kindness like smiling at a felllow Muslim and be given a reward for giving charity and Allah knows best.
If anyone is interested, I'll try to post something like this every few days. Let me know what you think.
Ibrahim Fletcher
lol, i was reading and sounded funny :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
open mind plz..
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
So the first post is about SEX?
I think we will have a lot of converters :P
am so interested to know islam..
nice one
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
Keep posting such stories regarding Islam Plateo....Feels good reading it.
I AM ALWAYS READY TO LEARN;BUT I DO NOT ALWAYS LIKE BEING TAUGHT.
Winston Churchill