Lets get it out in the open

Right CL.....Each day is dedicated for

Naach Gaana, Mehndi aur phir Khana for Baraatis

(I mean Music, Henna and party for QLers)

It is too late, commonfolks this has to be agreed before.

LOL.. Xena.. since you're a westerner.. I'm giving you a discount of 2 days .. JUST 'FOR YOU" !! :P

been to one that lasted 5 days..... the actual ceremony was 6 hours long...

Xena, One hour?? are you kidding me?? Its going to stay for 3 continuos days.. thats how it goes in my part of the world ..

for two day and I come back to my wedding being planned and Snessy washing my brand new car (Porshe Cayene - gift from CL) in sexy white clothes....

BTW CL... I have no objection to the eastern traditions... Just make sure the ceremony isn't more than 1 hrs long...

Snexy... according to our employment contract you cannot have any kind of relationship or flirtationship with anyone... you'll be stuck with me for the rest of your life .. :P

I can appreciate your love for Xena and will now find someone else to have a flirtationship with ;-)

Snexy..Now you're underestimating my love for Xena and her western lifestyle .. :(

Hey CL, if you see me washing your car in white Western clothes, you may just leave Xena for me - it's as good as wearing a white saree in the rain :-P

Shoooott... DP

LOL snexy.. when did i say it'll be manual labor.. we have an automatic car washing system in our new palace :P

CL: you obviously don't know me very well (please ensure you call me LADY Snexy in future)...I don't DO manual labour :-P

CL, you reminded me of Salman wearing Black jacket and Dhoti/lungi :)

Snexy... Maid of Honor?? Oh, I'm sorry that's very western. Actually WE (Me & Xena) agreed that we'll go with half western half eastern traditions... and Brit already said he'll be the Best man.... So, you can be our House Maid instead of Maid of Honor... according to our eastern (Arab) tradition but you'll have the Honor to wash our cars every morning in white "Western clothes" :P

As people says 'Love happens NOT planned' ;)

(Pyaar kiya nahin jata Ho jata hain for my Hindian fellows)

So Khananbhai arrange this wedding plan for 3rd one (near FFC parking open ground)

Brit is all set to attend in Scotish Suit and boots

Ooooppss.. the secret is out already..

Ahhhh,, Brit you ruined our surprise .. :(

shall we start looking for ours?

we got 2 QL weddings aalready :)

and many happy relationships...

and dates and threesomes..

and so on..

so QL is living upto its name..

'QL is not a dating site' ;)

Sounds fabulous, but I want to be Maid of Honour and I want to wear a turquoise dress with diamante detail - the title suits me better ;-)...the dogs can wear matching collars!

I'm so excited.. I hope I'm best man and you can be the bridesmaid.. we'll have it on the beach with guests from Qaws groomed and wearing bow ties .... :O)

Could this be our first QL wedding?

We faked our huge fight so no one would catch on to the fact that we are secretly meeting;-p

Is QL the love spot for CL_Xena? Mabrook

Brit...good observation...:)

You can't put those as pre-conditions. Once you get to know each other, then perhaps she will see the real you and come around of her own volition..

Good luck to you both...I am indeed blessed to be on this forum :O)

Xena.. haha, too bad :(

Brit.. Im not actually planning to meet her, I'm planning to date her.. But ONLY if she says no to pork and alcohol and learn few seductive bollywood lines ..LOL :P

So, Xena and CL have something in common .. Xena, meet CL. CL , meet Xena :O)

It was my lack of knowledge of Bollywood movies that made my Bihari fiance's family decide I wasn't Indian enough to marry him:'-(

Yeah, Just yesterday a western chick dumped me, coz i couldn't find a good western pick up line :(

Now, hows it my fault that i've seen more bollywood movies than hollywood :'(

this war will never end "East West"

I am reminded of the following story.. For Celtic , read East. For Rangers, read West :O)

Game day arrives in Glasgow, Scotland, and everyone's gearing up for the big showdown between the Rangers and the Celtics.

Seems this Ranger fan goes to have a few pints before the game and, in his befuddled state, ends up in the wrong end of the stadium. Poor chap's wearing his colours and he's surrounded by Celtics fans who are giving him the evil eye.

Too late! He's in too deep and figures the best thing he can do is try and wait 'til the game's over and make a quiet exit. The game starts and boom, boom! 2 goals for the Rangers! The Celtics fans are grumbling and staring

long and hard at the enemy in their midst. Finally, one of the biggest of the lot calls over to him.

"Oi! Go get me a bottle!"

At last, he can get away! "Ah, no, no, no... Don't be runnin' off! Leave one of your shoes!"

Well, he doesn't have much choice, so he gets the bottle, comes back and goes to put on his shoe, but there's a rather large turd sitting in it.

"Put. It. On." comes the command.

('Ha ha ha!')

Half time comes and goes and the 2nd half starts the same way. Boom, boom! 4-0! It's a wash-out, and he's really getting evil stares now!

"Oi! Go get me another bottle! And leave your other shoe!"

Well, he comes back and finds a similar situation.

('Ha ha ha!')

The game finally ends and our hero makes his way home feeling rather sorry for himself. On his way out, he bumps into a BBC camera crew who are interviewing people about football violence in general.

"Excuse me, sir? We're here asking people if they feel football violence is still a problem today, since today's game seemed fairly calm in the stands.

The fans were quite well-behaved, and we were wondering if you had any comments on the issue?"

It's all too much for him, and he grabs the microphone and screams, "Oi! You're bloody right I do!" He stares directly into the camera. "Football violence", he starts, "will never end in this country, so long as they are sh!ttin' in our shoes, and we're pissin' in their bottles!!"

Good indepth analysis of QL... done by QL's earliest member...

the turbulence is over for this month. maybe the next 2 months also will be peaceful.

REally a great post and a beautiful confession ever seen at Qatar Living :)

Tink, you Rocks Again.......with your balanced approach to the issues with harmonisation policy :)

I wish this could ever happen. The major reasons are our preconcieved thoughts, past-experiences and teachings (from history books), media feds, levels of education, and above all differences in opinion and cultural clash. Its a mixed bag full of various factors. Chances are least to have 'Global / Regional peace at QL'.

Arien: Like your selective approach, take it if good or leave it if bad.

Good to see DA Rude back, who appears to show his monthly REPORT only :)

And finally, there is PEACE!

;D

This month had more dramas then real actions / resolutions.

this month report will be prepared by UKEng so he doesnt shoot me for forgetting him :P

There are plenty of Eastern and Western people who are too busy breeding all around town and at Ramada park who don't hate on each other!

They just don't make as much noise.

I say just live and let live and accept the culture difference. :P

There are plenty of Eastern and Western people who are too busy breeding all around town and at Ramada park who don't hate on each other!

They just don't make as much noise.

I say just live and let live and accept the culture difference. :P

Oh btw.. i can make some really good bacon ;)

Ooops.. i was supposed to write "Dine" and not "Wine" ... :(

LoL ...oh anywhere that will have me!

Miss Teacher... Very wells said

so where do you wine these days and what time? :D

Well said.. i remember when Hadrian built the wall to stop north and South mingling ..... :O)

Truth is....Easterners and Westerners all need to open their minds and accept that people are different. Not just necessarily cultures or nationalities but 'people' as individuals.

Some people drink alcohol some people don't...it's a choice you get to make. If everyone stopped judging people then the world would be a happier place.

It's a shame Gordon Ramsay's restaurant has closed down as I did enjoy it. However, as I said in a previous thread about 'no alcohol at the pearl' .... I changed my opinion about no alcohol being perhaps a good thing when I was informed that by fellow QL'ers that restaurants were on the verge of closing because of it.

So I did expect this to happen. It is safe to say that although its their 'country' and their rules, I had a much better experience when the wine was a flowing and have since usually dined elsewhere :)

..................

go ahead....:-)

MM maybe am not supposed to read between lines n maybe its how you chose to word it but if u notice the fire had already started inthe comments before you brought up the issue of inshallah into the picture.... it was only natural to think the way i thought what you meant...

Can you make sure mine has the fresh cardamom's and not the powder!

Can I have a cuppa too please?

Simple chai please.

So where are we with this Thread "Us verses Them" Now who is on the Us side and who is Their side!

Uhhh, I don't think you need to read "between" lines, I think you just need to read.

Mozaismyhero said this "Allah decides who lives and dies so it is in his hands as they believe."

which is basically the long version of "Inshallah" than sajmarhab said not to bring religion into it, and I agreed, as the attitude of "Allah decides who lives and dies so it is in his hands as they believe" is not the result of religion, but rather the result of a lack of education about safety and a lack of enforcement of the law.

I know plenty of Muslims who not only know what Inshallah means, but how to use a child car seat.

And also, last time I checked, basically anyone living in this region for more than a week start using Inshallah on a daily basis, so I don't know how only Muslims use it.

Your showing your prejudices with that statement, not mine.

Tinker... No, I'm different than all these men... i have Bigger thing for her :P

Damn... DaRude .. where can i got those iron guard for my super sensitive testicles? :P

Mostly easterners...westerners are watching the hijack on the sidelines with chai...:)

I'm confused now. Is it the Easterners or teh Westerners who have hijacked this thread ? :O(

simple chai no karak chai?

Xena will come with a gun and shoot all you hijackers. so better get your bullet proof jackets from now. and a iron guard for your testicles :D

Riskz, can you please send me a nice chai over? Thank you.

MM

Sorry i wasnt agreeing on how its mis interpretted...

"Islam has nothing to do with it. It's lack of education and enforcement that create the "Inshallah" attitude towards safety that persists here. Not religion."

.

So if you read the lines..Inshallah is being used by only muslims and hence they are....uneducated and ill informed people

So y bring inshallah and muslims categorically into a topic of seat belts...

LOL .. DaRude.. Yeah, seems like she's got you too ;)

TB.. Yeah i have thing for you .. but i have "big thing" for her :P

no NOC only all the dirty nasty stinky pink thongs to be thrown at you

he had a THING for you.

and whats THAT THING?

Damn! Can i get a NOC ?

well maybe she is your one and only

but he got plenty lol

you are FIRED

we will hire SL now :P

Amazing isn't she?? ;-)

My one and only Love :P

The Hijack is complete :o(

wow :P

sunny leone

wait let me google

Oh Hello.... DaRuDe !! Lost something ? :D

Talk about sunny leone and the "wolf" is already here

Please do not mention sunny leone in this thread...Im finding it hard to walk around the office now and i have so much work to do .. :P

hi

before i comment further, may i ask Her Highness Xena - if i can comment further with my usual comments here ? :)

Rizks, I can assure you, My Beer Belly is no more there. But thanks for your Concern... You Got it wrong this time as well..... :)

now i dont want to divert the topic ORELSE i will be labelled with an usual name again....:(

by the way asterix, all i can suggest for u is instead of hitting my Emporium u better head towards some fitness club, u have a beer belly growing day by day ! :)

Yes Lethal Arrow...you agreed with me that Inshallah is misused and that religion has nothing to do with not buckling kids up :S

Yep, Sunny Leone is on the third page of the Menu...she sits on your lap and feeds you with her own, ok let us say, hands...:)

Rizks, Is Sunny Leone in the Menu as Well?

If Yes, then i can give it a Thought.... :P

Rizks, Sorry i can't take any Risk at all, Specially something related to YOU.... ;)

cant tell the whole menu of the triple 'x', but will jus tell the main ingredient and tat is "LOVE".......:)

Rizks that is single 'x' menu...what is on the triple 'x' menu...bolo, bolo ...:)

Xena .. I won't get my own .. I learned how to snatch people's meal in school .. at least one thing that I'm very good at :D

Tinker.. Since, I had this "thing" for you :P

MM i think i ve replied to what u said in that particular thread...

Lethal Arrow, can you tell us what MM posted that was inflammatory on the car seat thread?

Karak chai served with Hot Pappadums !

Karak chai served with Chilled Vanilla Ice Cream !

Hot Parotas with Semi Hot Pakodas !

Goat Eye Roast Sandwiches served with Hot Fudge toppings !...

those are some of dishes in my menu card u will find at Rizks Karak Chai Emporium where you all are WELCOMe at your own risk ! :)

May be u used the word inflammatory there making it literally inflammatory...:) Check it out

its clearly a clash of cultures..if i put it a differnt way, some of the traditions in islam and say south asian coutries doesnt exactly go hand in hand..for example the dress code...am sure many westerns find it amusing as to y women might dress in black from head to toe...n then they go on criticizing...it goes from there to sarcastic comments even on future threads which is nothing to do with religion...

and yes to be honest any muslims will get offended if provoked about questions on Prophet Mohamed(pbuh)for example...so keep away..its easy as that...the difference is even if someone westerner actually bashes Jesus Christ, it might be ironical that a muslim might actually get offended by that too...

simply put religion and religious values, culture needs to be repected and understood..treat it with respect and u ll get respect

Peace and harmony at last...see it helps to "get it out in the open"!!

Lethal Arrow, Xena, I'm still wondering what I said in that thread that was inflammatory?

And what happened to MN's thread on the 11 year old boy?

TB, My Bad.... I am a Pescetarian.... :P

Apologies, I was actually agreeing to yours when I posted mine....

Yes, there are people who should be blacklisted!!!

Well CL.... I will have my caffiene in my Coke Zero and Fries on the side.... I don't share though, so you will need to get your own;-p

Tinkers... :(

I was too shy... and high :D

Saale lota kamandal leke phir shuru ho gaye...:(((

TB, i smell something Fishy.... ;)

Tinker.. I avoided you coz you asked me out for coffee with other people .. and i wanted you All Alone .. ;) LOL --- i said "LOL" = Im Joking

Xena.. unfortunately, we are not teenagers anymore.. so lets go with fries and coffee ... its the best !!!

Xena

I think we can clearly "blacklist" few of the trouble makers then from either "side", if i may put it like that...y didnt u comment anything abt the example i posted...didnt it make my point too...its the same story..its either one of the trouble makers which effectively sets off the rant and it goes viral...

if u just take both the examples isnt it clear who started what...that doesnt mean all muslims and poeple other than westerners think alike...

Talk of weird combination...see the menu of Rizks Chai Emporium...:) It cant any more weird ...:)

but vanilla ice cream and fries - now thats yummy..... :-) the things we used to eat as teenagers:-s

Sadly, free birds do sometimes poop on those below :o(

Nope.. Fries from Xena .. and Coffee from Tinker .. makes the best combination ever :D

CL, Isn't it a Weird Combination, Fries with Coffee... :/

TB, no comments... ;)

NOW.... where are the fries with Coffee? :D

TB, i know i am posting under the ID i am suppose to.... ;)

& i don't have any issue telling Yes my Previous ID got Blocked, & Made New One....

Not like Some Qler's Who keep on denying they Don't have Multiple IDs, But They Do...

Ok Ok, it was a General Comment, Not meant for Bashing Anyone on QL, but being Straight Forward...

and this one

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/3087831

Again, its not right that Marco went off like he did, but can you blame him? Sarjmarhab goes off on a rant, while the topic that Marco had posted was actually newsworthy and worth discussion. Notice that almost everyone on that thread agreed that the child's incarceration was NOT correct, but Mr Sarj goes and brings his poisen into the thread and then Marco retaliated.... Do you see what I mean....

CL, thank you, yes we are good:-)

Sorry, couldn't resist having a last word:-D

lets have a 'Happy Ending' now.....:)

Asterix.. I believe she's not and i hope I'm right

Xena.. I have always considered you as one of the most respectful members on QL .. I was in fact shocked to see your recent comments filled with racism .. I usually ignore such comments if they're from a Qler like LP, Mozaismyhero... but you just got me all surprised and that is why i reacted too

Anyways.. I understand now that it was all out of anger and nothing else, I hope we are all good now... :)

wait Prism, there is still some dust particles flying around ! :(

Now as the dust seem to have settled down...I have another issue... I am curious of something now...:)

CL, I can Vouch Xena is not a Racist...

Now, Yes i agree there are Few Qler's who love to Bash West, but then that is morally & ethically not acceptable.

I have some concerns about West's Policy, & have raised it on QL, ample of times, Mandi gets annoyed with my comments sometimes, & some thinks i am a Conspiracy Theorist, Soo what, what i think & feel is right, I say it in a Respectable Manner....

Just Remember that "What Goes Around, Comes Around"

WTH did I say?

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/3088058

This is today...tell me comments from LP, Mozai and some later onces from MM wont irk muslims speacially..

Yeah i know now everyone is not perfect...but this is the type of hypocrisy i dont like either...

Xena i know exactly what u mean when u posted this and how some comments are anti western but sadly as MM pointed out some comments by many westerns,who maybe either new to the culture or simply admant to have their way,keep bashing the culture of this land and muslims...

I have read so many rants and sarcastic comments on many topics like dress code, ramadan and even on seat belts (today) etc being criticized which many westerns dont like...calling people from this part of the land and from south asia and east being arrogant,distasteful and uneducated

as mentioned...no one likes to be criticized hence even werterns should kindly stop thinking themselves as ingenious speacies and try to blend with the culture...

I too have many western friends who are amoug the most courteous but i fear its all hipocrasy at times...like u said Xena i am also sick and tired of a hypocritical thinking all the time...

Xena lets have chilled Mint n Lime juice together - jus to keep u chilling ? :)

Chillax everyone, everyone is a Free bird here - say watever u want - do watever you want to - but make sure ur words or acts dont harm anyone by any chance...have a healthy and loving atmosphere in QL ! :)

yawns.

You and I haven't had issues before, but in the last few weeks, your posts here have become aggressive... mine have too.... People whose posts I will be staying away from in the future:

Babu/Aarkhi/Choti - whatever he goes by now days

Sarjmarhab

Anyone who posts derogatory statements about the west - because I know (even though I don't think about it at the time) they are just looking for reaction....

I pride myself on being a level headed person who sees the good and that bad with everything - even if others can only look at things from a one-sided angle. The last few weeks, I haven't been so level headed.

But, this thread has given me insite, while writing the OP, alot of the anger I had, evaporated as I was making my point.

Anyway, I am done with this thread now. I have made my statements.

MM.. I know .. guilty as charged.. will never forget to write ":D", ":P", ":)" .. "LOL" or " ha ha" in my jokes

Xena.. Let me guess which particular comment are you talking about .. it was a thread something about USA or West and i said something like "realize and admit your bad side you bunch of hypocrites" .. i think thats the MOST racist comment (according to you) i have made on this forum so far.. yeah, i admit that.. but hey, I call a Muslim hypocrite too, a Muslim who'd tell me he hates America and then goes to Mcdonalds for nice heavy meal .. a Muslim who'd tell me pork is haram but enjoys 5 -10 bottles of heineken at some club every firday night!!!

Everyone has a bad side including me and you, East and West... and there is nothing wrong in admitting it.. nobody is just made perfect!!

It appears there are mindsets created here within ourselves...a joke by CL is considered as a hate for MM and a thread by anyone/ someone is considered as a preaching post...guess there lies the problem. But hey, looks like Xena had a real bad day to be in such a mood quite unlike of her or may be a pent up outburst. Hope she is feeling better now...:)

Anyways, take a chill pill guys...its Ok so far we accept and understand that I and you would at times react excatly the same depending upon something else which would have happened somewhere else its all well...shake hands (or whatever each one likes) and move on...

Yalla!!!

P.S.: CL missing out on smiley leading to all this hungama reminds me of one Indian movie where the actor says a mosquito can make a man %&$#@...:)

Oh Marco..thx for the copy paste. Thats indeed a "quality" stuff from Xena!!

CL, you broke the cardinal rule of joking on a forum! You forgot to add a :) after your comment. ;)

MN, slums in Mexico and other South American countries are the equal to the one's in the East easily.

in all the topics you have posted in the last few weeks... you will see exactly what I mean.

And you calling me a racist is what I was talking about in the beginning.

According to you, none of your comments are racists, but all mine are....

Amazing..... lets see now.....

What’s wrong with Xena’s comment? I think she nailed on the head for those Qler's who think their shyt has no stink!

"But it doesn't explain why SOME countries in the East are as poor as dirt: you can feel as much offended it won’t make those eastern counties any better. Yes true lots of poor as dirt countries in the East with people living in slums lacking most basic human needs like clean water and a roof over their heads that are nothing like the slums in the west which Miss Mimi mentioned and yes they have street beggars all over the place who attach themselves to the windows of vehicles to beg for money as those same cars drive on potholed roads, along with cattle that walk in town centers...

You have nothing to apologize for Xena.

I think babu and sajmarhab are the two people who inevitably start the fights on this forum. LP and mozaismyhero can also say incredibly inflammatory and sarcastic things that can cause problems, but they also sometimes give really insightful comments. I don't think babu or sajmarhab have EVER made an insightful or useful comment. They just cause problems.

Xena.. First of all .. i don't hate MM at all .. i was clearly joking there.. in fact .. i was joking on that thread all the time .. UNTIL ... you told me to teach "My boys" .. I do not control anyone's action here and I'm not going to teach or preach anyone .. if you mess with someone you better handle that yourself...

Yes, I Will admit it IF you can find me my one comment as racist as yours, attacking west, criticizing their laws and religion....

If you wana participate in an open forum ,first thing you gota learn is to ignore and pick the threads /comments to which you should be commenting on..

Or.. To those who wana change the world ? I wish you all the best.

Lets see where those comments came from, and why I may have said them, shall we?

First off you have Babu and his comments directly after the OP. Then you have Sajmarhaba and his “west” attacking comments.

This is what makes us angry. Instead of just skipping the thread if you have nothing good to say, you go on and start your nonsence. If you left well enough alone, then so would we, but why should we, when at every turn you are undermining our posts and trying your own agenda and nastiness.

Captain_Lost said and here i was thinking Miss ...

and here i was thinking Miss Mimmi is finally leaving us..

Damn, I was so wrong !!!

Why do you all hate MM so much? Is it because she talks truth most of the time... truths that you cannot handle?

Read more: http://www.qatarliving.com/node/3083252#new#ixzz1xYlnuFp3

chota_sanki said some give oil and if they ...

some give oil and if they dont then they r "invaded"

Ah, yes, another "west-hating" post by our favourite Babu - He responds this way on every single thread he posts on....

Read more: http://www.qatarliving.com/node/3083252#new#ixzz1xYm6uKI3

As one of the expat im encouraging each one of us to follow & respect dress code here in Qatar as I can still see in public places some expatriates wearing revealing clothes. Maybe in our country it was allowed but not here. We are all now in their land so let us all give respect public decency. Wear proper clothes. I have read now in Doha news Organizers are calling this campaign “One of Us” - not “No Nudity” - and are revamping the Twitter account. In hopes of educating the expat community on how to dress without offending, a group of Qatari women have recently launched a modesty campaign called “No Nudity” on Twitter.

Read more: http://www.qatarliving.com/node/3071691#ixzz1xYnpcDQN

“We are all now in their land so let us all give respect public decency. Wear proper clothes.”

As for this clothing thread, it was nothing but a command, and I am sorry, but I am a grown woman whose mother hasn’t said anything about her wardrobe since I was a teenager – I am tired of people coming on here to preach.

People don’t like being told what to do, and that's alls that happens on QL, people bullying and telling others what to do.... we are all guilty of it, its got to stop.

So, if you and your group stop being so derogatory and stop making outright rude remarks on any threads that are posted, I (cannot speak for everyone) will stop being retaliatory.

And CL, it takes a big person to admit to “bashing” on QL, which I have done twice on this thread. Can you admit the same?

vivme.. i understand that people have different sense of humor depending on their background or environment .. i literally call my non Muslim friends "INFIDELS" and we laugh about it ... But i don't say that to anyone here coz i'm sure reader wont get my humor and chances are that he/she might get offended... So yes, avoid such jokes that might offend any reader even if its not aimed at them :)

I think everybody needs to get off their high horses and smell the coffee (:

Everybody on QL is at fault and equally guilty of saying something offensive / outrageous or uncalled for at some point one way or another.

I have a number of friends from the UK, other parts of Europe and a few from Australia and US, and each has their own sense of humour. While, it is much easier to retort to and understand their humour in a direct conversation, most would look offensive while reading the written word.

I always believe that the written word doesn't convey emotions and it is very easy to reciprocate hatefully. That being said, there is a lot of unnecessary provocation at times which is difficult to digest for the more educated, literate and travelled Easterner.

I agree with you Prism that those words were uncalled for. There are western countries with slums and poverty as well.

However, knowing the person who said it, I think it was said out of anger.

There are certain people on this site who say things just to get that kind of response. And we are all only human, and when we feel attacked, we go on the defensive and say things we may later regret.

On the other thread mentioned by CL I am not sure why he (CL) got offended...thiese words are so full of praise and respect:

"but it doesn't explain why SOME countries in the East are as poor as dirt and have people living in slums who attach themselves to the windows of vehicles to beg for money as those same cars drive on potholed roads, along with cattle that walk in town centres..."

Funny thing is .. I meet westerners everyday and i have friends from Europe and America .. but I'm yet to find anyone in my real life with such hate and racism shown by many of you guys here..

Personally I think most people on this site are able to have decent, relevant discussions. However there are a few (and I can count them on one hand) who absolutely cannot comment on a subject without bashing or trying to incite hatred. It's best to ignore these people and move on with the discussion.

Good Morning People,

Xena.. let me start by the thread this discussion started from... this one:

http://qatarliving.com/node/3083252

Now lets see, who posted hatred, racist comments on that thread the most ?? and who was getting offended and mad??

I mean Why do you expect "Easterners" not to get offended when you do not have enough patience to tolerate one thing against West??

About these 13 threads you mentioned "no matter how many threads are opened regarding these 13 topics, mostly its for discussion" .. Yes, they are "Opened" for discussion but then filled with crap, hatred and racism..

here's an example of one of these threads that falls under the category of "Clothing" posted by an expat lady where she said something like "Let's respect local culture and laws of the country we live in"

and bam.. she was targeted and bullied by you and some of your westerner friends (Old Qlers) as if she had done or said something really bad.. Just like you don't like people telling you what to do or what not to.. the same way people don't like to hear you preaching them whats right or wrong for them.

Mind it .. i clearly understand the difference between criticism and questioning.. IF anyone has any question about anything related to me, my religion or nation I'd be more than happy to answer them.. but if they are going to bash and criticize my religion, nation etc... i'll use everything in my power to stop them and make them realize how sh*ty their existence in this world is.

There are people on this forum who like to bash and talk negative about West or Non Muslims but then there are people who like attacking East or Muslims.. So if you are going to join the Eastern bashing gang, I'm definitely going to join the other one.. Simple as that

I think certain people are more open and tolerant to other nationalities and those who aren't..You disagree with someone they become hateful and nasty..Say's alot more about them..I haven't been on QL as long as others but find it just to be mostly hateful and very unwelcoming by some..We all have an opinion and aren't always going to agree with each others opinions but really that's ok it's what makes us individuals..

Xena, I think you have the answer right there. Most threads are open for 'civil' discussion; but there are always one or two who can instigate and insult.

Also, there is a group of people who believe they are always right and cannot take a counter-argument, the reason why most threads turn hateful beyond a point.

And there are others (plead guilty) that feel it is best to ignore all the hateful, insulting posts and do not even bother to post.

Prism:- well said. There is the oldies gang who stick up for each other. But, personal attacks are wrong.

we are the BAD guys! Lol!

flor who else are you looking for you are already here, all we need now is Mozai..:)

stealth...well put...subtly or not subtly...:)

BTW if I am understanding correctly, negativity here means you did not agree with me and that is not acceptable cos I am a senile OLDIE of QL as I am here for 5 years plus or I have my group to make noise alongwith me that I am right and you are wrong. Kids!!!

this is a cycle that goes on in QL. Nothing much to be surprised about. Some mock and say its all because you dont understand the language. Whether subtle or not subtle insult is an insult.

If one doesnt want to get criticised then stop criticising others subtly or not subtly.

now, where are the nasty ones? Those who are good in name-calling? Those who bashed others for having an unpopular view against their views?

Love you guys!

Civil discussion is dead here, Xena. And guess who are often guilty about it!

We cannot please everybody, this is an open forum and people can/will/would post everything what they want, whether relevant or not with the topics., it's always up to us, (as an individual poster) on how to deal with it., it's either we let it affect us, ignore it, enjoy it or just let it slide...

I always just bear in mind that being in an open forum I have to accept that I will be dealing with people who have different points of view, different level of maturity and stupidity, and to each his own.

Though I am with you on this one Xena, but as I've said, we cannot please everybody ;)

Yes, I noticed the underlying negativity, almost bordering onto hostility. Starting to think forums here are not worth the time. You start reading a good post, and the very next reply is dampening.

People with negative energies love spreading them online.

Oh well, it's back to reading books for me.

familiarity breeds contempt :)

It seems as if it is a "Norm" at Least 1 Q'ler has the Habit to Write Something Negative about Someone on QL...

It is getting Rediculous, Honestly it is Getting to the Point where I don't even read Some Good Threads posted by Old Q'lers because There is always Someone that is Bashing Someone else in it...

Now you should all deal with this Non-Sense, Couple of Years back People use to Come on QL Ask a Question and would get an Straight Forward Answer, But Now if Someone Ask a Question rather then Posting a Straight Forward reply Some one would post a Smart Arse answer which is not even related to the Topic, and He/She thinks they are Soo Cool....

keyboard warriors:

defn.

some insecure, sad souls who spread b*llsh*t on internet forums like this one.

Your kidding? What losers! Really it seems there are some individuals here in QL who think it's all fun and cool to bully others. When in actuality they are cowards hiding behind fake IDs and usernames and attacking people smug in the knowledge that they will not be discovered..or so they think!!

Don't even think about it.Keep posting just the way you have always done under this ID. Up until now I've never seen any posts of your for which reason you need to be afraid of anyone's blame.

I too decided from the moment I joined QL to use my real name and say what I feel is right and just, and I don't fear the blame of the blamer. And Insha Allah as long as we are in the right no one can harm us!

Great work Xena. bless your heart for that. drsam: I have no issues posting my real pic, have done it before and what did i get in return? ppl bahsing me for no reason making unintellgent speculation about my natilnality based on a Qatari dressed pic, sayin all sorts of crazy cheap and mean things to me in pm's like I was advertisin for my self and that I was out to hunt for girls on Ql . totally rubbish things.

Great work, i love the way you put the whole matter in a single forum.

Well written!

Good Work Xena.

Xena, What about Q'lers Who Bring their Personal Issues on Public Forum, Bashing each other, Degrading, & it has happened more then Once....

Shouldn't that be Stopped as well....

I Commented on the Other Thread of urs but seems like it has been oopsed.....

"I am sure I speak for most westerners" and some "easterners" too (me being one of them).

i've been talking of this issue with TB. he was fed up and left, and i minimised my comments to the minimum:

i don't hide behind a fake profle or ID, and this is my picture i'm posting. so i feel vulnerable when someone attacks me. maybe i should get myself a fake ID, or just stop QL like TB.

Oh, I in fact just finished reading ur post and refreshed and it was gone.

maybe this will also get oopsed.

Is the other one deleted...I was reading that one and it oopsed...:((

You will have to take time out to read it and understand...

You asked for it, so you will have to deal with it.

I am going home now, have a good evening :-D

Xena.. Well done, and honestly I'm a bit flattered that you have done all this hard work for me.. :)

Im sorry i can't read the whole thread as I'm also busy doing something in office... can you just summarize your point for me ..

You asked for me to go back and find the topics - I have opened a new discussion

BTW... maybe you should go back and find out how many threads are hi-jacked (discriminately) against the west, when the topics are merely "job seeking" and the like.