Karzai signs law that 'legalizes' rape !!!
KABUL: Afghanistan president Hamid Karzai has signed a law which “legalises” rape, women’s groups and the United Nations warn.
Critics claim that Karzai helped rush the bill through parliament in a bid to appease Islamic fundamentalists ahead of elections in August.
In a massive blow for women’s rights, the new Shia Family Law negates the need for sexual consent between married couples, tacitly approves child marriage and restricts a woman’s right to leave the home, according to UN papers seen by the Independent.
“It is one of the worst bills passed by the parliament this century,” fumed Shinkai Karokhail, a woman MP who campaigned against the law. “It is totally against women’s rights. This law makes women more vulnerable,” she added.
The law regulates personal matters like marriage, divorce, inheritance and sexual relations among Afghanistan’s minority Shia community. “It’s about votes. Karzai is in a hurry to appease the Shia because the elections are on the way,” Karokhail said.
The provisions are reminiscent of the hardline Taliban regime, which banned women from leaving their homes without a male relative.
But in a sign of Afghanis-tan’s faltering steps towards gender equality, politicians who opposed it have been threatened. The bill lay dormant for more than a year, but in February it was rushed through parliament as Karzai sought allies in a constitutional row over the upcoming election.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Karzai-signs-law-that-legalizes...
True to say Brit, thats there allover.
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Brit: Wasnt saying the protestors were digging their on graves. The statement was about the crowd/ the public that stoned them. Sorry for the confusion.
As for women's voting rights in the west, thts not gonna help these people in any way, is it? and why do people need to go back to "what about the west?' when we are talking abt any place? Last time I checked the 'west' wasnt a bench mark, especially for the people in question and their supporters. If they had chosen the RIGHT things from the west to imitate, they would indeed have been in a much better position.
Again, I dont pity women living in quite a lot of places in the world. (Sorry to say, I see it as the kind of defeatist argument that loses a fight even before it starts.)Conditions like these, explicitly supported by the legal framework and the establishment, isnt quite the norm around the world, you know.
Just what we need. More controversy.
Sorry.. I meant that women all over the world face similar issues like marital rape and suppression.
I meant this new law Brit. is this been enforced else where??
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Its not just THAT part of the world, its in most parts of the world :(
Whatver , pity the women living in those part of the world.
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Its not a question of digging their own graves. Its a matter of a small cross section of society standing up and having their voices heard.
The fact is tha Karzai, in order to get the Shiite vote has played this game. Now that the Western media has got hold of the story, he's backtracking..
Change , in any society takes time. Remember, women in the West took hundreds of years just to get the vote :)
The rest of the world may react but there are certain laws that needs to be amended especially if human rights are being affected. These women on the street protesting do not have BALLS but they do have BRAINS and must be educated enough to know what they are voicing out. :)
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Kabul: Hundreds of Afghans swarmed a demonstration of more than 100 women protesting Wednesday against a new marriage law they say restricts wives' rights. The women were pelted with small stones as police struggled to keep the two groups apart.
The law, passed last month, says a husband can demand sex with his wife every four days unless she is ill or would be harmed by intercourse — a clause that critics say legalizes marital rape. It also regulates when and for what reasons a wife may leave her home alone.
Women's rights activists scheduled a protest Wednesday attended by mostly young women. But the group was swamped by counter-protesters — both men and women — who shouted down the women's chants.
Some picked up gravel and stones and threw them at the women, while others shouted "Death to the slaves of the Christians!" Female police held hands around the group to create a protective barrier.
The government of President Hamid Karzai has said the Shiite family law is being reviewed by the Justice Department and will not be implemented in its current form. Governments and rights groups around the world have condemned the legislation, and President Barack Obama has labeled it "abhorrent."
Though the law would apply only to the country's Shiites — 10 to 20 percent of Afghanistan's 30 million people — it has sparked an uproar by activists who say it marks a return to Taliban-style oppression. The Taliban, who ruled Afghanistan from 1996-2001, required women to wear all-covering burqas and banned them from leaving home without a male relative.
Shiite backers of the law say that foreigners are meddling in private Afghan affairs, and Wednesday's demonstrations brought some of the emotions surrounding the debate over the law to the surface.
"You are a dog! You are not a Shiite woman!" one man shouted to a young woman in a headscarf holding aloft a banner that said, "We don't want Taliban law." The woman did not shout back at the man, but told him: "This is my land and my people."
Women protesting the law said many of their supporters had been blocked by men who refused to let them join the protest. Those who did make it shouted repeatedly that they were defending human rights by defending women's rights and that the law does not reflect the views of the Shiite community.
Fourteen-year-old Masuma Hasani said her whole family had come out to protest the law — both her parents and her younger sister who she held by the arm.
"I am concerned about my future with this law," she said. "We want our rights. We don't want women to just be used."
As the back-and-forth continued, another demonstration of Shiite women who said they support the law began.
"We don't want foreigners interfering in our lives. They are the enemy of Afghanistan," said 24-year-old Mariam Sajadi.
Sajadi is engaged, and said she plans to ask her husband's permission to leave the house as put forth in the law. She said other controversial articles — such as one giving the husband the right to demand sex from his wife every fourth day — have been misinterpreted by Westerners who are anti-Islam.
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just amazed that there were people with enough b**ls to go out and protest. Guess the only thing that the 'rest of the world' can do is to jus let them dig their own graves and 'react' only if they try to pull their stuff outside their borders.
we have other major responsbilities to shoulder. And Advocate was never active on QL, you may check all the our previous threads.
It should never be allowed anywhere with any excuse. It is wrong.
You're kidding yourself.
shame eco, advocate etc didn't come here for this discussion, as would have been interested to here their views.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6047263.ece
Thank GOD!! I guess the outside world CAN effect change in internal politics, if there's enough of an outcry.
"Most plain girls are virtuous because of the scarcity of opportunity to be otherwise."
-- Maya Angelou
somethin' somethin' .... =(
In some twisted way, this thread ties into the one about the killing of gays in Sadr City.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
-Thomas Tusser
No human being should behave that way Azam, but the fact is that some do, and that's why there's laws.
Well its not just aghanistan the GCC aren't angels either.
http://asiapacific.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE040042005?open&of=ENG-2MD
A woman in Bahrain was left without adequate housing after police failed to prosecute her husband for beating and threatening her. Married at the age of 19, she remained silent about the abuse for several years because she knew she was expected to put up with the violence. When she did finally ask for a divorce, her husband assaulted her so severely she was hospitalized for 10 days. Despite her extensive injuries, the police took no action against her husband.
Maybe this is my corrupt western upbringing, but I believe this is not right.
It's like I said...a very THICK wall here!
I don't think you could dream up a more misguided, misogynist reply than the one you gave here minutes ago...
And while your Muslim women folk are (un)happily servicing their men in bed, we non-Muslims are gleefully pleasing one another - because for us, marriage is a two-way street where both partners take care of the other, not like your model Muslim marriage of sexual servitude and turning women's bodies into baby factories.
Wake up. It's not the 6th century anymore.
"Most plain girls are virtuous because of the scarcity of opportunity to be otherwise."
-- Maya Angelou
wikipedia wrote:
"In December 1993, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights published the Declaration on the Elimination of Violence against Women [2]. This establishes marital rape as a human rights violation. This is not fully recognized by all UN member states. In 1997, UNICEF reported that just 17 states criminalized marital rape.[2] In 2003, UNIFEM reported that more than 50 states did so.[3] In 2006, the UN Secretary General found "Marital rape may be prosecuted in at least 104 States. Of these, 32 have made marital rape a specific criminal offence, while the remaining 74 [sic] do not exempt marital rape from general rape provisions. Four States criminalize marital rape only when the spouses are judicially separated.""
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
my heart goes to all woman in afgan, how much stress their life ahead.
Everybody is right everybody is wrong, it depend where you stand
yes sir!
but you know what? i would rather refer this to my father. if i told him about what you just said, i'm sure he will laugh his heart out...NOT. i am 100% certain he will not agree to his 4 daughters being treated like that by their future husbands..
kadaut...
I don't need ANY imagination to show my intellectual superiority over outdated ideas of mans sexual dominance like yours.
"Don't worry I respect all humanity alike" Let me finish that sentence for you........'unless she is a woman'
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
"health of the family lies in man being sexually active". lol...
moving on...
kadaut...
''No muslim men should behave.." and you think everybody else can do? - Learn to say NO human being should behave that way.. bro.
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Azam u are wrong. Law comes in to the pic when things gets beyond the control of the parties. When in harmouny laws rest in books , and me I dont even have a complete knowledge on wht all law prevails.
That doesnt mean that , laws are not required. There 100s of cases where marriages broken, and that wher the law peeks in.
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Well said!!
I to find that beating my womenfolk over the head with a club and dragging them back to my cave by the hair for 'privilaging' is an effective remedy to any woman that wants to suppress my sexual desires.
Keep up the good work!
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Wow.........:S
Basically Azam, you need the crime to be entered into the Statute Law otherwise a woman can't prosecute.
Abuse occurs, just as it does in the west. Just many muslims wont accept it and the whole rape isssue is something SOME muslims like to cling to show moral superioity to the west. just google womens rights groups in the different middle east countries to get some real facts.
Muslims need to stop seeing the west comments on women as tit for tat, or that they are doing it just to 'get one over on islam'
Everybody who responds to Azam is "beating their heads againt a THICK wall! No one can penetrate that thick of a wall. Sad.
Threads like these and people like Azam make me want to beat my head off a wall.
Azam, based on the shared opinions here, the reformation we are touching is merely not misinterpreting by Islam followers their religion in making such laws. With all due respect to the culture as well, what people are just pointing out here is the relevance of human rights especially women.
"Even I don't think a man will remember religion when he is approaching his woman for sex. It just happens...."
This kind of reasoning do not justify anything at all. Totally BS!
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LACK of laws to protect the intimate encouters of marriage is an insult to the institution of marriage. While you might be kind enough to respect your wife...there are many that don't and the wife can NOT report the incident because they have no recourse or will be punished for returning to their family due to abuse...only to the returned to the abusing husband.
I don't care if you are married or single..NO, means NO...its not a maybe or perhaps...otherwise it is rape..
If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.
-Mark Twain-
By David Ljunggren and Adrian Croft David Ljunggren And Adrian Croft – 1 hr 43 mins ago
STRASBOURG, France (Reuters) – President Barack Obama piled pressure on Afghan leader Hamid Karzai on Saturday to scrap an "abhorrent" law which critics say would legalize marital rape.
Other leaders meeting at a NATO summit joined in the chorus of disapproval, warning that support for the military alliance's Afghan mission would suffer if the Shi'ite Personal Status Law was not dropped.
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown personally phoned Karzai to complain and Western officials said the Afghan leader had ordered a review of the draft law, which would apply to the country's Shi'ite minority.
"I think this rule is abhorrent ... We have stated very clearly that we object to this law," Obama told a news conference after a NATO summit.
"It is very important for us to be sensitive to local culture but we also think there are certain basic principles that all nations should uphold ... (including) respect for women and respect for their freedom and integrity."
The former Taliban regime, overthrown by U.S.-led forces in 2001, discriminated strongly against women and girls, and NATO leaders have justified their continued presence in Afghanistan partly by saying they were defending human rights.
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said if Afghanistan compromised the pursuit of fundamental human values "there will be clear diminishment in Allied support for this venture."
Shi'ite Muslims account for some 15 percent of mainly Sunni Muslim Afghanistan. Karzai is facing an election in August and Shi'ite support could be crucial to his chances.
KARZAI SEES MISINTERPRETATION
Karzai said on Saturday the West's criticisms were based on a wrong translation or misinterpretation of the law, which has not yet come into force.
His comments did not satisfy Canada, whose troops have paid a heavy price fighting in the south of Afghanistan where the Taliban insurgents are at their strongest.
"I'm not sure the Alliance is prepared to accept simply soothing reassurances," said Harper.
He acknowledged a contradiction between the West insisting Afghanistan was a sovereign country that could not be told what to do and then telling Kabul to scrap the law.
"Clearly the Afghan government is a sovereign government. That said, (it) understands the involvement of international forces in their country ... is based on our adherence to certain principles," he said.
Brown told reporters he had called Karzai and "demanded assurances" that the law would not infringe women's rights.
"He (Karzai) has promised there will be a statement made by his Justice Department tomorrow and he has promised that, if necessary, this will return to the Afghan parliament rather than being enacted in practice," Brown said.
(Editing by Crispian Balmer)
A fool and his money are soon parted.
-Thomas Tusser
Simply because they should know it is haram? You think that is enough to conclude that it isn't a problem?
Muslims also aren't supposed to steal, commit murder, drink alcohol, and a whole lot of other stuff -- so I guess we should wipe the laws pertaining to THOSE offenses off the books too, huh? Because a good Muslim knows how he/she should behave...and that's enough.
Puleeez....
Maybe there are so few complaints of sexual assault because many cultures where Islam predominates penalize the victim instead of the perpetrator. Even if you're raped, in many cultures you're at risk of being killed by a relative because the family's honor has been stained -- despite the fact that you were an unwilling victim of sexual assault.
In terms of equality and women's rights, Afghanistan and the vast majority or countries that are mostly Muslim in population lag far behind the western world. It may be due to culture, not religion -- but the bottom line is that it sucks to be a female living there.
"Most plain girls are virtuous because of the scarcity of opportunity to be otherwise."
-- Maya Angelou
Nothing is more relaxing than flying like an Eagle in Heaven !!
this is the result when u r muslim but u dont understand why !!!! islam is not like this at all but those people they are muslims just to increase islam population in the world !! wat a shame!
I dont know why the words Islam and Shia are in the same article.asking help from the dead people is not what we do in islam
From the onset of puberty to 16.
She did say that she thought the rights recently extended to women and children might be going in the opposite direction. These bills drag along in discussion but the bills brought in by social conservatives are whizzed through at lightening speed.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
on Al Jazeera with a female Afghan member of parliament who blamed the western media for not understanding the language the bill was couched in!!!
When she was directly asked what the western media had got wrong, what she found wrong with the bill and if it did indeed allow marital rape within the Shia community she could not answer, ducked the question and spouted on about how they had raised the marital age for girls to 16.
She seemed afraid to speak her mind and was just towing the party line.
Obama called it an abomination, and whilst we had to be sensitive to cultural differences there were some basic principles concerning human rights that every nation had to abide by.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Azam, what other ways of handling the situation you are talking about? PM is absolutely made the point on education and reformation. Ignorance should not be an excuse for this kind of suffering caused by misinterpretation of religious aspects to use it on political aspects. This is really insane!!! Did you check the outrage of women from all over the globe? We are not talking about religion here. But we are touching the humanity side of that particular issue.
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that they invented marital rape. Lol!!! This case is so extreme that the root of such case should be the one to be remedied!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
I find my typing speed and accuracy has suffered greatly due to these damn stumps!
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Mastrubation - By cutting the hands the law is encouraging them to go and rape someone instead of mastrubating?
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My point was that there is a difference between a religion "allowing" marital rape and a preacher interpreting that it does.
I agree that there are morons who advocate this, but surely that is their interpretation of this.
Azam there is most defintely a question of rape between them. Rape is often a tactic used by husbands to abuse their wives. Sex should ALWAYS be consensual.
fyi, it's not only in the west that marital rape is a crime. my country from se asia has this law.
mo lang!
True brit, but in the west marital rape is a crime on the statute books.
In addition there is discussion between scholars on what 'obey' actually means. As obey has been translated from what the bible was originally transcribed in.
P.M are you sure you want to do that, Advocate and Eco Savy will be here calling you a traitor.
moonbeam, we got your point. there are silly laws that needed to be repelled, however, let me point to you that these laws are obsolete, had been forgotten and although technically legal, no one had enforced them already. a lot of these are about minor issues.
now back to the issue at hand. rape is rape, a crime against a person. if they loosened the definition of it, a lot of women will suffer in silence. haven't these women suffered enough already? what did they do to deserve this?
mo lang!
The issue of marital rape needs clarification in the minds of ALL men. It's not just the Muslim men that abuse it.
Remember the words from the marriage vows - "Love , honour and obey"..
INDEED
Yup I got them from the Times Online, so I guess they are still true.......
the discussion is getting diverted
yes the laws are still on the books, they have just not been updated or removed. They are superseeded by newer laws.
biologically / physically....
MB post is it all true or just jokes?
You are absolutely correct! Women are NOT equal, we are BETTER!!!!
Lol they pretty funny, 10 is for taxis (stage coach drivers) though
25. It is illegal for a cab in the City of London to carry rabid dogs or corpses.
24. It is illegal to die in the Houses of Parliament.
23. It is an act of treason to place a postage stamp bearing the British monarch upside down.
22. In France, it is forbidden to call a pig Napoleon.
21. Under the UK’s Tax Avoidance Schemes Regulations 2006, it is illegal not to tell the taxman anything you don’t want him to know, though you don’t have to tell him anything you don’t mind him knowing.
20. In Alabama, it is illegal for a driver to be blindfolded while driving a vehicle.
19. In Ohio, it is against state law to get a fish drunk.
18. Royal Navy ships that enter the Port of London must provide a barrel of rum to the Constable of the Tower of London.
17. In the UK, a pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants – even, if she so requests, in a policeman’s helmet.
16. In Lancashire, no person is permitted after being asked to stop by a constable on the seashore to incite a dog to bark.
15. In Miami, Florida, it is illegal to skateboard in a police station.
14. In Indonesia, the penalty for masturbation is decapitation.
13. In England, all men over the age of 14 must carry out two hours of longbow practice a day.
12. In London, Freemen are allowed to take a flock of sheep across London Bridge without being charged a toll; they are also allowed to drive geese down Cheapside.
11. In San Salvador, drunk drivers can be punished by death before a firing squad.
10. In the UK, a man who feels compelled to urinate in public can do so only if he aims for his rear wheel and keeps his right hand on his vehicle.
9. In Florida, unmarried women who parachute on Sundays can be jailed.
8. In Kentucky, it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon more than six-feet long.
7. In Chester, Welshmen are banned from entering the city before sunrise and from staying after sunset.
6. In the city of York, it is legal to murder a Scotsman within the ancient city walls, but only if he is carrying a bow and arrow.
5. In Boulder, Colorado, it is illegal to kill a bird within the city limits and also to “own” a pet – the town’s citizens, legally speaking, are merely “pet minders”.
4. In Vermont, women must obtain written permission from their husbands to wear false teeth.
3. In London, it is illegal to flag down a taxi if you have the plague.
2. In Bahrain, a male doctor may legally examine a woman’s genitals but is forbidden from looking directly at them during the examination; he may only see their reflection in a mirror.
1. The head of any dead whale found on the British coast is legally the property of the King; the tail, on the other hand, belongs to the Queen - in case she needs the bones for her corset.
"if a woman is equal why does she need permission?"
Because they are not equal.
victor this is what i have tried to bring up before when muslims bash the west on rape:
"the new Shia Family Law negates the need for sexual consent between married couples"
In the west even though you are married you cant make your wife have sex with you as it is a crime.
"approves child marriage"
In the west this is seen as corrupt and immoral.
"restricts a woman’s right to leave the home"
again if a woman is equal why does she need permission?
The one, where did you get this from?
Law can be funny !
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women.
properly and which is 'legalised in Islamic laws'.... some thing vague!
I didn't get it, Can somebody provide me more clarity on this topic, please.
bizarelly women have less rights now in Iraq than when it was secular under Saddam.
Thanks for clarifying Amoud.
Funny eh?.. Lots of NOCs in their life out here LOL
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Actually the One they aren't enforced at all. Just like criminals don't get a horse and a gun when they get out of Vancouver prison.
have trampled upon all aspects of human rights in the country. Still, I'm not quite sure what this mean??? What kind of rights??
Very sad hearing ab.this "law",same sadness as watching OSAMA-the movie made in Afganistan, which received so many awards and nominations (work began in June, 2002 and was completed in March 2003 with a budget of approximately $46,000 USD. All the actors in the film are amateurs found by the director on the streets of Kabul)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_(film)
http://www.osamamovie.com/
it's not rape if you yell "surprise!"
For sure they do, and more to be honest. Qatari women need husbands permission to travel, and if I am not mistaken are not suppsed to be granted a drivers license unless they are married or over 30 (with certain exceptions to the rule). Damn, Lebanese women need their husbands permission to leave Lebanon.
The only difference is that it is here and not there.
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Amoud - Thts totaly different I guess. here husband is a sponsor for the family. when it comes to the husband its his sponsor whoes permission and signature is required.
I dont know whether a Qatari Wiman requires her hubby's permission for all these .. do they?
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These came from Ripleys I do believe.
Gypsy you will love this one. In Vancouver (I think it was Vancouver, close) when a convict is released from jail he has the legal right to ask for a horse and a gun so he can ride out of town. Old but still a law all the same.
As for some of these bills for Afghanistan... HELLLOO??? Do any of you live in Doha?
You need your husbands permission to open a bank account, get a drivers license or work in many companies (if you are registering with the labour department, which is required).
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Gypsy, even if a law is old, it is still enforced until it is abolished, Which is not the case of the mentioned laws. How stupid they may be, there are plenty of other stupid laws in USA, either state laws or city laws. And they are not to confuse with federal laws. In one state, incestuous relations were not considered criminal.
Spearfish sounds an interesting place.. Wonder if the same can be done in Doha ?
Those are old laws and none are enforced anymore. This law is new and will be enforced.
barking mad !
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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.
In New Orleans, it is illegal for a woman to drive unless her husband is in front of the car waving a flag.
In Salem Massachusetts, even a married couple can't sleep together in the nude in rented rooms.
In Arkansas A man can legally beat his wife, but not more than once a month. Oral sex is considered to be sodomy.
Flirtation between men and women on the streets of Little Rock may result in a 30-day jail term.
In Florida, one may not commit any “unnatural acts” with another person. Unmarried couples may not commit “lewd acts” and live together in the same residence. It is considered an offense to shower naked. Oral sex is illegal. You may not kiss your wife’s breasts.
In Owensboro, in Kentucky, one may not receive anal sex. A woman may not buy a hat without her husband’s permission.
In Michigan, a state law stipulates that a woman's hair legally belongs to her husband. Any person over the age of 12 may have a license for a handgun as long as he/she has not been convicted of a felony.
In Clawson in Michigan There is a law that makes it legal for a farmer to sleep with his pigs, cows, horses, goats, and chickens
In Montana It is a felony for a wife to open her husband’s mail. It is illegal for a man and a woman to have sex in any other position other than missionary style. It is illegal for married women to go fishing alone on Sundays, and illegal for unmarried women to fish alone at all. Seven or more Indians are considered a raiding or war party and it is legal to shoot them.
In Nevada, It’s still “legal” to hang someone for shooting your dog on your property.
In North Dakota It is legal to shoot an Indian on horseback, provided you are in a covered wagon.
In South Carolina It is perfectly legal to beat your wife on the court house steps on Sundays
In South Dakota If there are more than 5 Native Americans on your property you may shoot them.
In Spearfish in South Dakota If three or more Indians are walking down the street together, they can be considered a war party and fired upon.
Lol Labda- Kabsa... :)
Rzkz / Malrat -- didnt u guys see the source provided in the post. Its a true media report.
Rizkz - you naughty , now dont plan your vacation to Afghan :)
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bunch of weirdos eh?....
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So? How would you feel if you were one of those women?
There would be no outcry, because everyone is looking after for themselves.
I recall when the present British government came to power, they said that the cornerstone of their foreign policy would be to only deal with countries who uphold civil and moral values (whatever that means).
By the way, the law applies to about 10% of the Afgan population. (not a justification, but just a factoid)
No, I mean what would the international outcry be? Because you know there's going to be no international outcry about this.
gyps, it would be a country full of men with awkward gait?:)
mo lang!
I wonder what the result would be if a country legalized the rape of men by other men....
agree kath, although certainly no one, not even them are convinced.
mo lang!
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we don't have much money,no golds nor oils, live in a third world country but we have bountiful good manners and right conduct!
I am still proud to be a FILIPINO!!!
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ewww....he should be the first to be raped. hmp.
no, this thread will not incite the usual religion bashing. BUT the same people who is mighty pricky about religious issue will tell you that US and the west have the highest incident of Rape. well, well, well, if "rape" is deemed legal or its definition screwed in this side of the world, of course there would be low incident of rape committed :-)
mo lang!
Guess Karazi is nothing more than a moderate taliban
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HE WHO DARES WINS
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we don't have much money,no golds nor oils, live in a third world country but we have bountiful good manners and right conduct!
I am still proud to be a FILIPINO!!!
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It is not a joke, and the same law lifted the ban on fornicating with goats and other animals, but approved the punishment on masturbating, by cutting of the hand of those caught dong it!
Arien, ati IMAGINE!!!
Haha haki Arien ni yetu kabiiiisa!! ;)
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Arien ...
if this is the same April fool thingy... then ur bum should be whipped with hot iron rod and kept in the SUN.....:)
rumours are that he has done this to get the Shia swing voters in this year's presidential poll.
The law, which has not been publicly released, is believed to state women can only seek work, education or doctor's appointments with their husband's permission.
Only fathers and grandfathers are granted custody of children under the law, according to the United Nations Development Fund for Women.
The funny thing is that the Afghan constitution guarantees equal rights for women, BUT allows the Shia community to settle family law cases according to Shia law.
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.don' t be fooled by everything you see,
specially today:(
.that's all......
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Karzai is nothing but a puppet put in place to serve a purpose.
I bless the fact that I was born in a first world/ democratic country, where women are regarded as equals.
I think its April fools news and will be revealed only tomorrow..
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.: iF tHe ShoE fItS, i HaVe To BuT iT iN EvErY CoLoR:.
"the new Shia Family Law negates the need for sexual consent between married couples"
This is very bad. My wife who is always tired wakes up on some fine night when my children are asleep and ....
Oh God, I have no option but to pray to God to give me the strength to oblige !!!
Found the topic which should be discussed, its such an idiotic act to present and pass such a bill.. such a shame..
Religion bashing. well , thats not ma interests.
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Listen to Many..Speak to a few.
What's on his mind is that women don't matter.
What the !!!! in his mind? His balls moved to his head???
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"Admit your mistakes...before someone exaggerates the story."
UGH!
to incite religion bashing....
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Have Courage To Live.
Anyone Can Die.
Imagine!!!
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Listen to Many..Speak to a few.