Islam and its many trends

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Except the war zones, Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan and the proxy war zones Kashmir and India, for quite sometime the rest of the world has not witnessed a major terrorist incident. The credit for this goes to the high grade counter terrorism measures adopted by the US, European countries and others, and also perhaps to a growing awareness in much of the remaining Islamic populations that terror is always counter productive.

The Islamic civilization from its birth has gone through debates and counter debates. Except for the Shahadah (God is one and Mohd is his messenger) and the five mandatory duties (Hajj, Zakat, Roza, Namaz and Shahadah) everything else in Islam has been subjected to deep scrutiny and analysis with the result that many schools of thoughts kept appearing and disappearing. Those that came through generally had the backing of the executive ruling power which gave its support only to those which helped it to survive and strengthen.

Qoran and the Prophet took a liberal view of who constituted a Muslim or believer, but in the first three centuries of Islam, there was constant in fighting over religio-political, legal, theological and other issues of doctrine. The differences were severe but ultimately the largest community of believers crystallized into what came to be known as Sunnis. While they called themselves the true Muslims, even they were not organically one. They got divided into following four schools of law, Hanafi, Hanbali, Shafi’i and Maliki. The most conservative among them is the Hanbali which is practiced in Saudi Arabia. The widest following is commanded by Hanafi which the Afghans and earlier the Ottomans adhered to. Shafi’i is the law in Malaysia. After Sunnis, the Shias are the largest group with their own legal system, the Jafaria.

With such divisions it would be evident that there could never be a unity of thought in Islam. Even on the validity of some scriptural items, interpretations differed. Absence of a Qoran supported centralized mechanism or authority often led to conflictual analysis of verses of Qoran or Hadith. However, if consensus could be developed on an issue, an annulment to or deletion of the verse was possible. Such modifications through Islam’s history saw it move away from the doctrines of caliphate, slavery and war booty.

Two other illustrative examples can be given to show that Islam is no monolithic institution. Does a Muslim have the freedom to change his religion? There is no bar on it in Qoran which broadly supports an individual’s choice to a religion. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948 guarantees to everyone freedom of thought, conscience and religion including freedom to change religion. Many Muslim countries have subscribed to this declaration and are agreeable to extend such rights to all their citizens. But only a miniscule number of the Muslims in practice conceded to the Muslim a right to change his religion. A majority hold that the right to choose the religion excludes the right to change the religion for Muslims. For such Muslims the Universal Declaration of Human Rights creates a problematic situation. The problem arises because many Islamic jurists in the medieval past ordained that a change of religion by a Muslim amounted to apostasy for which they prescribed death as the punishment. Here is thus a contradiction. While broadly supporting the concept that human rights accrue to people simply because they are humans, prejudice prevents the majority from extending this human right to the option to change religion.

The other example relates to the Muslim law of apostasy itself. Apostasy with its punishment of death had existed before the advent of Islam in some Semitic religions including Judaism. But Qoran and the Prophet created no offence called blasphemy or a punishment for it. The offence and its punishment came into existence later on the basis of rulings of Islamic jurists. Today most Islamic states which follow Shariah have apostasy or blasphemy listed as a crime, meriting a corporal punishment. In Malaysia while there is no such central law, the state of Kelantan, one of its federating units, has such a law on its Statute books. Fears are being entertained in certain quarters that for maintaining Malay domination over power in the country, even the leading Malayan political parties at the centre may move towards adopting the Kelantan model. If they do, it will be one more fissure in the body politic of what is described as Ummah and a retrograde step against the globalizing movement among some Muslims, towards separating the religious community from a political identity.

Modern day perspectives in Islam are not theology, law or philosophy driven. They are born of frustration as the Islamic world finds itself low in the world pecking order. Several trends can be prominently identified.

The most destructive to the social order are the Islamists. They reject notions of state and secularism and aim to reach political eminence through sabotage, subversion and violence. Their ultimate aim is to exercise political power through a Caliphate of the whole Ummah. Anything or anyone outside the pale of their Islam is an enemy to them. Currently, Osama bin Laden is the high priest of this ideology. Older movements like the Muslim Brotherhood and Jamait-ei-Islami belong to this genre.

For the Islamist, religious fundamentalism serves the purpose of a political tool. Rise of Jihadis, ready for martyrdom, in its ultimate analysis, amounts to a political manifestation and not a religious one. The Wahabis and Salafis constitute a puritan strain, wanting Islam to be followed as it was in the seventh century Medina, with no deviation in practice or interpretation. The Arab model is the only model for them. Ultra conservative and orthodox Saudi Arabia is a Wahabi country. Their large scale donations to Madrassas in the sub continent have promoted growth of the Arab model of orthodoxy among the Muslims of the sub continent. Wahabis are rabidly anti- Shias.

A third category is of the traditionalists who are rooted in the traditions of theology and law as they developed in the Umayyad and Abbasid eras. A die hard traditionalist is anti reform but the realities of globalization and the recent waves of terrorism, linked to Islam, have made some of them anxious to accept some reforms. The Deoband Seminary in UP, India, belongs to this classification. It is to be noted that the influence of Wahabi money often succeeded in converting the traditional fundamentalist into an Islamist. This phenomenon was most visible in Pakistan where many traditionalists, moving from Deoband after partition, converted to extremism and Islamism. This happened because there is a thin line separating traditionalism from obscurantist fundamentalism and therefore Islamism is an easy transformation for a conservative Ulema.

Infact, reformists are a rare breed in Islam. Intellectuals of various persuasion remain within the orthodoxy of Islam for fear of being branded blasphemous. Those who do rebel, publicly or privately across the family dining table, want to make Islam contemporaneous. They stand for substantial changes in its laws and theology. Actually, Qoran itself, in an abstract way, does not frown on change since it permits ‘Ijtihad’, a dialogue between the individual and his Allah, thereby allowing him a personal understanding of the truth that can become his Islam. For the clerics, however, Ijtihad must remain within the doctrinal parlour of Islam.

Reformists often transcend into secular beings for whom religion becomes a matter of personal piety, unencumbered by the sanctions of the state or the reach of the theological legal system. The secular minded Muslim thus questions the idea that the sovereignty of Allah extends over all things, temporal or spiritual.

In this context it will be interesting to recall that Justice Munir who enquired into Punjab (Pakistan) disturbances of 1953, had reported that the various Ulemas who appeared before him each gave a differing definition of what constituted a Muslim, and that each felt that only those who fell within his definition were real Muslims and all others were non Muslims.

Talibans of Afghanistan developed into a unique trend, the like of which was perhaps never seen before in Islam. Starting as Ulemmas of Deobandi Seminaries in Pakistan, they became murderously political, introducing a pattern of Islam which was more conservative than the most conservative fringe of Wahabism. They Arabized Afghan culture and shifted to the Arab lunar calendar from their own Persianised solar calendar. Women were placed in the category of chattels. All non Sunni Muslims and all Shias were identified as enemies meriting death.

Talibans’ emir Mullah Omar took the delusional title of Momin-ul-Musalmeen (commander of the faithful), claiming tribute from the entire Muslim world like the Prophet Mohd and later Caliphs. Talibans and bin Laden combined to unleash a season of terror over the world. Although the Taliban rule has ended in Afghanistan, its virus with its mutations is flourishing in the neighborhood. Its tentacles have extended deep into Pakistan. It is a moot question whether NATO forces in Afghanistan can succeed in eliminating Talibanism or its off spring neo Talibanism from Afghanistan or neighboring Fata area of Pakistan.

Muslims of all shades of opinion as described above are to be found in India also. But fortunately, the Indian Constitution which includes secularism as one of its immutable principles acts as a check on institutions which harbor reservations about it. No political party which does not swear by secularism as an article of faith can participate in the political processes in the country. Thus, imperceptibly, the Indian Constitution is a secularising force on the Muslim citizens of India, irrespective of what their religion says. And they are none the worse for it. According to Maulana Mehmood Madani, head of the Deoband Seminary in India, the Muslims of India have had the best deal among all the Muslims of the world. Again, according to him, Muslims who nurse deep grievances against the Indian system are usually part of the 30% of the Muslim population that lives in Muslim majority enclaves.

It is among these 30% that the battle on terror has to be fought. None among them should be allowed to hijack the agenda of terror to lay an infrastructure, which remains intact and grows even if the leadership is decapitated. In the absence of efforts to identify the springs of the ideology which inspires terrorism, there lurks the danger that the belief system will become self sustaining. Fatwas against terrorism serve only a miniscule purpose. A political counter strategy is the need of the hour and such identifications constitute the primary steps. The time to change perspectives has arrived. The objective of these changes would be to make the Muslim society in India more modernized and more in tune with the contemporary values of the globalised world including India, of today.

It must be admitted that there is considerable confusion among the general masses of the country about Islam, its teachings and its bonds. There is a good case for setting up some departments of Islamic study in Indian universities so that an increasing number of people can develop an appropriate understanding about it. This can be an important step in political counter strategy to combat terrorism.

http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers30/paper2968.html

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 11 Mar 2009 18:07
skdkak closed 1708224867

I am not a master in Islam or history.

If you notice, i have shown the source at the end.

How can you say I am writing half truth..and half not.

By anonymous• 11 Mar 2009 17:05
anonymous

from Qatar to study Islam in India. Only later I realised he was searching for Sufi Madrasa

By anonymous• 11 Mar 2009 16:59
anonymous

not those Barelvi, Qadiyani or Sufi madrassa

By stealth• 11 Mar 2009 16:55
stealth

eco there are thousands of madrassas all over India.

By stealth• 11 Mar 2009 16:54
stealth

could you please name them eco?

The most famous ones in UP was there long before the Wahhabis came into picture.

skd it is eay to write half-truths you dont need to dom uch rather than look into those written by the orientalists

By anonymous• 11 Mar 2009 16:48
anonymous

where they teach Salafi methodology. There is one in UP and one in Bhatkal (Karnataka)

Not a single madrassa in Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai.

Dont know about Pakistan or other FE countries

Do you think Saudis will fund these deviants sects which are flourishing in India? Saudis dont even consider us good muslims. At Abu Samra check point they used to inspect our luggage and if they find books (deviant ) they would throw them out.

Btw how many madrassas in Qatar? not even one. There are two Quran learning Centres, they too are not full fledged. Qataris either have to go to Madina or Yemen

AK Verma failed to convey truth

By anonymous• 10 Mar 2009 21:23
anonymous

formed by Abul A'la Maududi and ofcourse you know who are Ikwani

By GodFather.• 10 Mar 2009 21:22
GodFather.

skdkak..I think that a majority of the sub continent muslims that believe in a much liberal Islam have been lost all together in the above script.

Lets not forget that the majority of Islam that spread through India was not by the sword by Allah's friends Wali Allah's. These were the pious people who convert people in their thousands by their pious characters and led by example. Yet they may be also be referred as Sufi's to some. But truly it was these men from Central Asia and some from Arabia and Persia that real changed the way India's muslims are today.

It is unfortunate that the Islam that we see today and hear and gets notice nowadays is the Islamist (the extermist) and them the Shiates.

The middle Islam of the tolerents muslims is been put back while Whabism and Shiate are grabbing all the headlines..

Saudia is funding the Madarassa in the Sub continent and even in Europe to promote Wahbism and Iran is funding its idealogy accross the middeast..

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HE WHO DARES WINS

By anonymous• 10 Mar 2009 21:13
anonymous

A third category is of the traditionalists who are rooted in the traditions of theology and law as they developed in the Umayyad and Abbasid eras. A die hard traditionalist is anti reform but the realities of globalization and the recent waves of terrorism, linked to Islam, have made some of them anxious to accept some reforms. The Deoband Seminary in UP, India, belongs to this classification.

It is to be noted that the influence of Wahabi money often succeeded in converting the traditional fundamentalist into an Islamist.

What is traditional fundamentalist?

Wahabi money goes to Deoband?? This is biggest joke

All Deobandi preaching is banned in Saudi, very famous book Fazaile Amal is banned in KSA

By anonymous• 10 Mar 2009 21:03
anonymous

Saudia.

By anonymous• 10 Mar 2009 20:55
anonymous

curry. Dont dip sushi in curry

Confused soul quotes

For the Islamist, religious fundamentalism serves the purpose of a political tool. Rise of Jihadis, ready for martyrdom, in its ultimate analysis, amounts to a political manifestation and not a religious one.

The Wahabis and Salafis constitute a puritan strain, wanting Islam to be followed as it was in the seventh century Medina, with no deviation in practice or interpretation. The Arab model is the only model for them. Ultra conservative and orthodox Saudi Arabia is a Wahabi country. Their large scale donations to Madrassas in the sub continent have promoted growth of the Arab model of orthodoxy among the Muslims of the sub continent. Wahabis are rabidly anti- Shias.

So now we have Wahabis and Salafis, islamist

By anonymous• 10 Mar 2009 20:35
anonymous

quote

The most destructive to the social order are the Islamists. They reject notions of state and secularism and aim to reach political eminence through sabotage, subversion and violence. Their ultimate aim is to exercise political power through a Caliphate of the whole Ummah.

unquote

Author is confused he has to decide if islamists are Hanbalis or Wahabis?

Again in which group does OBL fit in?

Anything or anyone outside the pale of their Islam is an enemy to them. Currently, Osama bin Laden is the high priest of this ideology. Older movements like the

Muslim Brotherhood and Jamait-ei-Islami belong to this genre?????

genre MEANS in literature, a class or type of literary work, such as epic, lyric, tragedy, or comedy.

Since when did Muslim brotherhood/Jamait ei islami entered into Genre?

By Platao36• 10 Mar 2009 20:21
Platao36

wizz: Do you consider yourself rightous?

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

By anonymous• 10 Mar 2009 18:26
anonymous

and muslims follow all four

Will continue later - cooking brk

By Platao36• 10 Mar 2009 18:22
Platao36

Preciselly skdkak, we are mere mortals while Allah is all powerfull, and like it is stated in the Qur'an:

"(2:111) "Bring your proof (of what ye state) if ye are truthful."

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

By anonymous• 10 Mar 2009 18:20
anonymous

Who are non sunni muslims?

1. All non Sunni Muslims and all Shias were identified as enemies meriting death.

2. They got divided into following four schools of law, Hanafi, Hanbali, Shafi’i and Maliki. The most conservative among them is the Hanbali which is practiced in Saudi Arabia.

If Saudi's follow Hanbali then who are Wahabis?

Again Author quotes

The Arab model is the only model for them. Ultra conservative and orthodox Saudi Arabia is a Wahabi country.

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 10 Mar 2009 18:12
skdkak closed 1708224867

We as humans have made it a point to solve all problems by ourselves. We dont want God to do anything (so to speak).

If anyone is doing something wrong, let him be judged whenever God wants.

By Platao36• 10 Mar 2009 18:05
Rating: 2/5
Platao36

Yes sdkak, we should always be modest and always ready to listen to Allah and has the text itself says, any questions we may have should be raised between us and Him without any fears because He loves us.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 10 Mar 2009 17:55
skdkak closed 1708224867

You are welcome.

One has to be a simple human being

By Platao36• 10 Mar 2009 17:53
Platao36

PM/Skdak: This is one of the best posts i have seen in the last weeks and in a way it shows that clerics are afraid of loosing their present power.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

By Platao36• 10 Mar 2009 17:50
Rating: 2/5
Platao36

skdkak: Thanks for the article,it's really interesting :)

"Infact, reformists are a rare breed in Islam. Intellectuals of various persuasion remain within the orthodoxy of Islam for fear of being branded blasphemous. Those who do rebel, publicly or privately across the family dining table, want to make Islam contemporaneous. They stand for substantial changes in its laws and theology. Actually, Qoran itself, in an abstract way, does not frown on change since it permits ‘Ijtihad’, a dialogue between the individual and his Allah, thereby allowing him a personal understanding of the truth that can become his Islam. For the clerics, however, Ijtihad must remain within the doctrinal parlour of Islam."

Think this encourages me to be a reformist muslim.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 10 Mar 2009 15:23
skdkak closed 1708224867

Then you dont know what is fast in QL for addicted QLers

By Hasan Shaikh• 10 Mar 2009 15:14
Hasan Shaikh

This is not slowly. This is all at one time.

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 10 Mar 2009 15:10
skdkak closed 1708224867

I am good. Thanks for asking.

Have been off QL for almost a year.

Trying to catchup slowly.

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 10 Mar 2009 15:02
skdkak closed 1708224867

Long time PM.

Hope you in good shape.

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 10 Mar 2009 14:41
skdkak closed 1708224867

Use weekends, if you want :))

By SPEED• 10 Mar 2009 14:39
SPEED

everyday :-)

I don't say it's not informative but it's toooooooo informative ... LOL

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 10 Mar 2009 14:26
skdkak closed 1708224867

You are a lazy BUM.

ur office gets over by 2.30PM. what do you do after that.

Read man

By stealth• 10 Mar 2009 14:14
stealth

armchair reporting...........

By SPEED• 10 Mar 2009 14:12
SPEED

specially when it comes to repeated issues ;-)

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