Gaza massacre - Sponsored by the US.

Eve: Stop blaming religion. Good and bad people are in all religions.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Now they will win because their children food depends on it.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

And looking how degrading things goes year by year at the Palentinians, there seem to be no hope when they will be fully equipped with weapons.

I believe history had proven lots of time that having the advantage of weaponary does not necessarily make one to win a battle. And also, winning a WAR on some small poor country does not really mean that it is complete. It may open another WAR from around the world who symphatize the poor country.

However, no country in the world would be able to assist if the palentinians are only throwing stones daily and bombarding random rockets once awhile. Even if everyone in the world knows how injustice the stealing of land are by the Israelist.

Hollywood has made wide use of "infidel" and that has "coloured" perople's perception..

Clampkodok you're absolutely correct! Don't forget as mentioned in the Quran, there'll never be peace in this world between the Jews and Muslims. My conclusion is whoever that do not believe the Quran are Infidels and the ones who negotiate with the Jews are! The Kaabah will be destroyed by the Jews and their supporters and those are one of the signs of Doomsday.

So we're still not too late to repent.

Not only does the American govt. send way tooooooooo much money to Israel when now the Americans need the money but also the Christians were told if they pay to send Jews back to Israel Jesus will return if all the Jews return. I think if they pay $800 a Jew can be sent to Israel. Imagine what a great spin that is and they believe it! Wow people must sit up night and day coming up with this BS. My husband said a time frame should be made and if they all don't return then return the land to the rightful owners. But we know this will never happen. Palestinians cannot fight a WAR they have no weapons!

If the Palentinians wants to have justice, they should organize themselves and fight in the sense of proper WAR. Not by firing random rockets that does not make any sense be it in terms of strategy nor objective...

The only reasoning is that it is done based on emotion. They are not unite and each are acting on behalf of frustration and anger. Thsi is not helping because they fail to read even the simple next move of the chess game. They need a prominent leader to lead and guide them in a proper organize society.

With Israel, its obvious how arrogant and manipulative they are. And the best thing is that they know they can easily get away with it. Such provocation are blessings for them to bombard Palestine. And why are the Palentinians helping to satisfy the Israelist???

Agree with you to a point. America is a great country with great peoples. A country that calls itself the "world's policeman" and a country that holds itself as the beacon of justice and rights.

in Israel's case, America and its leaders seem to show undue bias and favouritism.

I will point you to a few excerpts from Dubya's recent speech to the Knesset, President Bush said

"..America is proud to be Israel's closest ally and best friend in the world."

"We believe that democracy is the only way to ensure human rights. So we consider it a source of shame that the United Nations routinely passes more human rights resolutions against the freest democracy in the Middle East than any other nation in the world. "

"We also believe that nations have a right to defend themselves and that no nation should ever be forced to negotiate with killers pledged to its destruction."

"...Israel's population may be just over 7 million. But when you confront terror and evil, you are 307 million strong, because the United States of America stands with you. "

some people just dont want to understand, they just want to deviate away from the main topic.

I think the whole word are occupied by Israel not Palestine only

The Israeli ppl have the right to live but not in Palestine they have to go back to there country's were they came from , this is an Arab land, it's in the heart of the Arab word , and Hamas and other Palestinian group have the right to fight those occupiers , all nation's under occupation have the right to do this, why only the Palestinians did not have this right

I think a lot of ppl here do not have an Idea about the history of Israel and how this state is established, they should read and know the truths before they defend the Israeli's , on the other hand I am happy for what happening now from killing and murdering for the Palestinian civilians from the Israeli's , u know why , cz it will establish a new generation who will know who is their enemy and they will keep fighting Israel tell Palestine became free

it must be very sad for america and americans to be blamed for everything that is happening around the world...i don't know why, when there is something happening somewhere.. america is to be blamed..tsk..tsk.. it must be very easy to blame others than yourself..there is not even an america when this war between palestines and israelis started.. am always wondering what will happen to the world when america stops being america...

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

Anyone who can justify killing innocent children is cruel and emotionless, and all i see on the news in Gaza is children getting killed..

well said Mandi...

Actually, PM, to my horror I have heard Israelis say that. I've heard an otherwise perfectly nice university professor say, "The only good Indian is a dead Indian," referring to the Palestinians in the neighborhood. Another woman, a seemingly sane social worker, told me when I recounted the plight of a Palestinian baby with a heart defect that the baby would just grow up to be a suicide bomber if it didn't die now. The hysteria on both sides is simply unbelievable until you experience it.

Mandi

Its strange for me to understand how people think that Gaza could be cut off indefinately and not do a thing, I think Hamas must of fired rockets to stop the seige, when your people are dying do you fight before they are all dead or just wait for Israel to annihilate you. This has been happening for so many years. As one Israeli said on TV today no matter how much Israel wants to kill every Palestinian they can't. Its time they accept they have to live side by side. To me its shocking the very people who were victims of a holocaust are not creating one against the Palestinians. As an American I would love to see not one more dime given to Israel and see how long they survive. As someone once said the Palestinians would prefer to pick the time of their death than let Israel do it for them. Should they lay down and play DEAD? or fight? How many of us would of been this patient given the death and destruction around you daily.

Interesting article Qatarkid.

Pieman at least Gazans will have food to eat and children will not be scavenging the streets for food. Imagine if this was our children with no food to eat.

Politics is dirty and as usual the innocent suffer but how can the world see whats happening and for food not to be allowed in(or restricted), is beyond cruelty to me.

The Independant newspaper piece is of course an intresting read but if Israel stopped the bombing would Hamas stop the rockets. Its only a personel opinion but I somehow think not.

I don´t usually get invloved in these kind of forums because it seems like whatever your opinion is you are never going to win the arguement, but just consider the following....

Lets say that today all the Israilies dissapeared and left an empty space which is now called Israel. What do you think would happen?

For me there are two scenarios:

Scenario 1..

The people of Gaza and the West Bank have a huge party to celebrate their freedom.

The next day the international aid starts flooding in and over the next decade the Palestinians build a green and pleasant land, like Israel currently is, throughout the territory. The economy booms, housing, roads. schools and hospitals are built, everyone prospers and we have a piece of eutopia in the middle east.

Scenario 2..

The people of Gaza and the West Bank have a huge party to celebrate their freedom.

The next day Hamas and Fattah restart their internal conflict because as usual they can´t agree on anything and don´t seem happy unless they are having a war with someone.

Within 12 months the green and pleasant portion they have inherited turns into a devastated war zone like Gaza and the West Bank and the whole place becomes a series of factional strongholds with alliences to whoever. The whole place then comes to depend on international aid, mostly European, in order to survive while it looks for somewhere else to point the finger regarding its current plight.

Now think about it and yourself a couple of questions...

Which scenario would the world like to see..easy answer.

Which scenario do you realistically think would happen...

I suppose what I´m trying to say is that regardless of who does what there does´nt seem to be a way out of crisis for this area. And this not intended to be a pop at either side.

just eat another pie

Johann Hari: The true story behind this war is not the one Israel is telling

The world isn't just watching the Israeli government commit a crime in Gaza; we are watching it self-harm. This morning, and tomorrow morning, and every morning until this punishment beating ends, the young people of the Gaza Strip are going to be more filled with hate, and more determined to fight back, with stones or suicide vests or rockets. Israeli leaders have convinced themselves that the harder you beat the Palestinians, the softer they will become. But when this is over, the rage against Israelis will have hardened, and the same old compromises will still be waiting by the roadside of history, untended and unmade.

To understand how frightening it is to be a Gazan this morning, you need to have stood in that small slab of concrete by the Mediterranean and smelled the claustrophobia. The Gaza Strip is smaller than the Isle of Wight but it is crammed with 1.5 million people who can never leave. They live out their lives on top of each other, jobless and hungry, in vast, sagging tower blocks. From the top floor, you can often see the borders of their world: the Mediterranean, and Israeli barbed wire. When bombs begin to fall – as they are doing now with more deadly force than at any time since 1967 – there is nowhere to hide.

There will now be a war over the story of this war. The Israeli government says, "We withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and in return we got Hamas and Qassam rockets being rained on our cities. Sixteen civilians have been murdered. How many more are we supposed to sacrifice?" It is a plausible narrative, and there are shards of truth in it, but it is also filled with holes. If we want to understand the reality and really stop the rockets, we need to rewind a few years and view the run-up to this war dispassionately.

The Israeli government did indeed withdraw from the Gaza Strip in 2005 – in order to be able to intensify control of the West Bank. Ariel Sharon's senior adviser, Dov Weisglass, was unequivocal about this, explaining: "The disengagement [from Gaza] is actually formaldehyde. It supplies the amount of formaldehyde that is necessary so that there will not be a political process with the Palestinians... this whole package that is called the Palestinian state has been removed from our agenda indefinitely."

Ordinary Palestinians were horrified by this, and by the fetid corruption of their own Fatah leaders, so they voted for Hamas. It certainly wouldn't have been my choice – an Islamist party is antithetical to all my convictions - but we have to be honest. It was a free and democratic election, and it was not a rejection of a two-state solution. The most detailed polling of Palestinians, by the University of Maryland, found that 72 per cent want a two-state solution on the 1967 borders, while fewer than 20 per cent want to reclaim the whole of historic Palestine. So, partly in response to this pressure, Hamas offered Israel a long, long ceasefire and a de facto acceptance of two states, if only Israel would return to its legal borders.

Rather than seize this opportunity and test Hamas's sincerity, the Israeli government reacted by punishing the entire civilian population. It announced that it was blockading the Gaza Strip in order to "pressure" its people to reverse the democratic process. The Israelis surrounded the Strip and refused to let anyone or anything out. They let in a small trickle of food, fuel and medicine – but not enough for survival. Weisglass quipped that the Gazans were being "put on a diet". According to Oxfam, only 137 trucks of food were allowed into Gaza last month to feed 1.5 million people. The United Nations says poverty has reached an "unprecedented level." When I was last in besieged Gaza, I saw hospitals turning away the sick because their machinery and medicine was running out. I met hungry children stumbling around the streets, scavenging for food.

It was in this context – under a collective punishment designed to topple a democracy – that some forces within Gaza did something immoral: they fired Qassam rockets indiscriminately at Israeli cities. These rockets have killed 16 Israeli citizens. This is abhorrent: targeting civilians is always murder. But it is hypocritical for the Israeli government to claim now to speak out for the safety of civilians when it has been terrorising civilians as a matter of state policy.

The American and European governments are responding with a lop-sidedness that ignores these realities. They say that Israel cannot be expected to negotiate while under rocket fire, but they demand that the Palestinians do so under siege in Gaza and violent military occupation in the West Bank.

Before it falls down the memory hole, we should remember that last week, Hamas offered a ceasefire in return for basic and achievable compromises. Don't take my word for it. According to the Israeli press, Yuval Diskin, the current head of the Israeli security service Shin Bet, "told the Israeli cabinet [on 23 December] that Hamas is interested in continuing the truce, but wants to improve its terms." Diskin explained that Hamas was requesting two things: an end to the blockade, and an Israeli ceasefire on the West Bank. The cabinet – high with election fever and eager to appear tough – rejected these terms.

The core of the situation has been starkly laid out by Ephraim Halevy, the former head of Mossad. He says that while Hamas militants – like much of the Israeli right-wing – dream of driving their opponents away, "they have recognised this ideological goal is not attainable and will not be in the foreseeable future." Instead, "they are ready and willing to see the establishment of a Palestinian state in the temporary borders of 1967." They are aware that this means they "will have to adopt a path that could lead them far from their original goals" – and towards a long-term peace based on compromise.

The rejectionists on both sides – from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran to Bibi Netanyahu of Israel – would then be marginalised. It is the only path that could yet end in peace but it is the Israeli government that refuses to choose it. Halevy explains: "Israel, for reasons of its own, did not want to turn the ceasefire into the start of a diplomatic process with Hamas."

Why would Israel act this way? The Israeli government wants peace, but only one imposed on its own terms, based on the acceptance of defeat by the Palestinians. It means the Israelis can keep the slabs of the West Bank on "their" side of the wall. It means they keep the largest settlements and control the water supply. And it means a divided Palestine, with responsibility for Gaza hived off to Egypt, and the broken-up West Bank standing alone. Negotiations threaten this vision: they would require Israel to give up more than it wants to. But an imposed peace will be no peace at all: it will not stop the rockets or the rage. For real safety, Israel will have to talk to the people it is blockading and bombing today, and compromise with them.

The sound of Gaza burning should be drowned out by the words of the Israeli writer Larry Derfner. He says: "Israel's war with Gaza has to be the most one-sided on earth... If the point is to end it, or at least begin to end it, the ball is not in Hamas's court – it is in ours."

The problem with the comments on this thread and particularly the apologetic ones (PM & others)are that most think history began yesterday or a few days back. There are people in the Gaza concentration camps that have first hand experience of being terrorised in 1948 and oppressed ever since.

As we know "Oppression is worse than slaughter" - Perhaps, to nearly die everyday, to be humiliated everyday, to live on handouts, to have your water supply, your food supply, your economy, your movement, honour and dignity at the mercy of a racist zionist apartheid state is unbearable.

Oh but they should have patience, shouldn't they?......Can you think of the last time you went to one of the government departments here and you didn't get the service you expected - or you were given the run-around for half an hour - How frustrated were you?

I don't understand how anyone can tut tut.. at the palestinians and insist that they must stop their violence when it is plain to see for anyone with an ounce of common sense that the Israelis could have peace tomorrow if they wished - the Israelis don't want peace; they want, to quote their leadership, "to wipe the Gazans off the map - into the sea or egypt" and then you can bet your shekkles that they will brush off the west bank palestinians and insist that they are a part of Jordan.

So wake-up, those of you that think that the palestinians ought to be good little boys and just grateful that Israel allows them to be fed by the international community's handouts.

So do you still think there will be peace?

Finally, to quote another independent writer:-

"We hear the usual Israeli line. General Yaakov Amidror, the former head of the Israeli army's "research and assessment division" announced that "no country in the world would allow its citizens to be made the target of rocket attacks without taking vigorous steps to defend them". Quite so. But when the IRA were firing mortars over the border into Northern Ireland, when their guerrillas were crossing from the Republic to attack police stations and Protestants, did Britain unleash the RAF on the Irish Republic? Did the RAF bomb churches and tankers and police stations and zap 300 civilians to teach the Irish a lesson? No, it did not. Because the world would have seen it as criminal behaviour."

60yrs of Killing and we are still not satisfied

Here you go:

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/314490

As much as it hurts me that innocent are getting killed, i don't think that only 1 side is considered guilty.

People are "crying" how much Israel over reacted because of 50 RPG's fired by Hamas.

If they are that harmless why do they keep using them?

If they know they can't beat Israel shouldn't they set a peace treaty? Or is it better to keep the eye-for-an-eye politic?

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

There is blood on so many hands, it is unfair to blame just one country/person/group.

Whether it is Israel getting financial help from the US; Hezbollah spewing their retoric; Egypt not opening their borders unless Abbas "regains control of the border". Hamas intentionally taunting the Israelis (with Iran's support with arms); and so forth and so on.

No one's hands are clean.

always king

that there is anyone forcing these people to blast themselves ... they got a long way before reaching and enough time to always back out in the last moment ...

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. (Gautama Buddha)

you should read this article.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123059693797741083.html

In this modern world, internet is the great equalizer.

need any rockets or whatever to start such a thing ... It's far behind what is obvious, the hidden agenda behind it is ... I'm not going to say something more ...

For six months, there was an agreement and no one was firing missiles at Israeli ... What happened in the end?

Nothing ... Gaza got no Power, Water, Electricity or even food ... The people are dying from hunger and poverty and what people can see is nothing but those news about how do the parties are fighting, but what is happening to the poor people? No one cares...

To people who never been there or know what is really happening there on Palestine ... I think that no matter what would they be commenting, they would never get the real situation to judge it right ...

I'm not trying to justify firing missiles, but ... when they are letting you die slowly and all the routes are closed ... What do you expect hungry people to do? A father watching his kids dying because they can't eat? He would never care about Hamas, Fateh, Israel or the whole world ...

What else should be done? During the 6 months they did not manage to do anything, why now they will blame Hamas or whoever for firing rockets?

The only thing that people does not understand is ...

WE ARE a nation under occupation and we got the right to fight back as after 15 years of the Peace agreement, where does the Palestinians stand? on 2% or 4% of their total land???

Does not look fair to anyone ... I will steal your Box of Chocolate and then will ask you ... Which flavor do you prefer?

All I see is dead people, can anyone of you bring them back to life?

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. (Gautama Buddha)

DMS .. as has been said on many occasions ... don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

Did you Google it first?

This is not a suggestion box.

PM yeah it does explain a lot.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

Hamas start producing rockets that could reach USA?

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

we get what you mean, we are just having a fun in discussions, it stimulates our minds! Good day to you!

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

Qoute "Its a two way street, because Israel can also act as a "testing ground" for new and modified weapons."

Brit now we need to realize that the Palestinian lives are used to test the American weapons, second US gives 30$billion Military aid to Israel in the next 10 years. imagine this.

third if you watched the press release of the US administration last night, you wouldn't think other then that the US is partner in this conflict with Israel.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

Israel started it, but why go to war again when you know you won't win? Regroup, go for better and bigger supporter/s, get more sophisticated and powerful weapons and start a new war! But as long as you only have rockets, then better shut up and plan for a bigger fight! You can;t win a war by rockets! Lol!

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

What we sometimes forget is that Israel has quite a "healthy" arms industry itself.

This includes the Merkava tank, Drones, spy planes and very sophisticated missile defense systems.

The USA "spends" billions of dollars on technology transfer and aid to Israel.

Its a two way street, because Israel can also act as a "testing ground" for new and modified weapons.

You dont have to wonder, my education is based of Mogadishu university of I knoweverything.

now you dont have to teach me anything, what you should do is sit back relax and reflect on the misbehavior of your country. You tell us about terrorism extremists etc while you forgot to realize that your country is having the trigger for these things.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

Look at Real's original post:

"Through my opinion"

Now in MY opinion, what he said is a load of old codswallop... but that's just MY opinion and I'm entitled to it.

Opinions are like a**holes - everyone has one.

You wanna know who started it? read history from now to 60years and you will now who.

UKeng i agree with you.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

both sides are giving their best (or shall we say,worst), best for Hamas is rockets, best for Israel is air raids and bombs, fair (I don't know your view) but it's action and reaction. Now tell me, who started it? Maybe it's a silly question same as, which comes first, chicken or egg?

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

From the current situation I would say that the palestian fighting among each other might be as damaging as the agression from Israel...

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HE WHO DARES WINS

there is no flaw here except your bias and hypocrisy, i stated my opinion whether its facts or believes.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

OK Brit, to get back to the original post and answer Tallg using Realsomeone's logic, they should have retaliated by bombing China, or Russia, or where ever else the mortars were made.

Did you Google it first?

The correct response to your provoke someone comment is israel has been provoking the Palestinians for 60years, the real provocation is when your door to food is closed that is real provocation, not a weak unguided rocket.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

of the original post....

Of course i know who ever points out the truth about the misbehavior of the Big guy is biased and his/her points are flawed. so no wonders.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

So what's the correct response to 50 rockets fired and 1 person killed?

You provoke someone, they'll come with all they've got. Why should they hold back on how they attack?

Not all of the 400 were innocent!they were HAMAS. I feel grieve for what's happening for the people of GAZA. But as i expressed many times earlier

THEY HAD IT COMING. They want the HAMAS way, let them pay the price

Your point though is sadly flawed. Let's say the bauxite used to make the Aluminium fins on a missile comes from Somalia, does that mean Somalians are killing people too?

Just using your 'logic'

PM, Dmighty - Nice to see some people thinking clearly and seeing the big picture.

Did you Google it first?

Oh yeah rational people like the hypocrites. I know we are in the time when the liers are believed and the trustworthy are demeaned.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

Yes, the 'facts' are clear. But your justification is flawed.

I made my point PM, and the facts are clear...watch the TV (not cnn , I mean Aljazeera).

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

prisoners' exchange where two dead Israeli was exchange to "how many People?"

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

casualties of war. Solution, never start a war you can not handle. Never instigate one!

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

Killing one or one hundred is the same,.... ...????? huh, by which logic?

For 1 person killed 400 people massacred is that same for u? Are u human?

World would be at peace if we start using ur logic of one and hundred are same, if someone kills 1 innocent person, 400 innocents would be massacred for it, isn't it?

Rockets of Gaza are equated with air strikes destroying everything from humans to bldgs to animals, well Muslim life is become real cheap, since Arabs are busy waiting for the new model of Land Cruisers and BMW's to be launched when their muslim brothers are massaccred everywhere......

only 400 casulties ?

I bet you the figures are in 1000s ..... most of them are inncoent civilians incl children and women.

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who are supporting Israel even after the attack !!

before we point our fingers to a 'Big Guy' we should 1st point our fingers to 'Big Goats' ....

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If All people concentrate the mind on the present moment, Hamas including....

you will stop all Israely arms...

"crazy", but provoking a crazy is "crazier".

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

in the face of Allah, it is still a killing!

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

never give your opponent any reason to fight back to you. Even if it means stepping back even if you have the right reasoning, just to avoid conflict, I will humbly step back. In the first place, it is not cowardliness to stay alive.

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

Guns don't kill people. People Kill People.

If both sides didn't get their weapons from where ever the do, they'd get them elsewhere.

Did you Google it first?

Firing those Rockets is useless and a hopeless acts ... May I ask why is Israeli is commit that massacre in Gaza if so? If they fired them with those harmless useless rockets, what more can happen if they had air-forces to bring down the buildings beyond 1967?

Just following the logic and here and asking...

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. (Gautama Buddha)

made if you are talking about the rockets they fire at Israel ... Indeed those rockets are so dangerous, it killed so far

the rockets of Hamas? I am not defending USA, don't get me wrong! I am just following your logic!

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

I wonder who supplies the arms used by Somalian pirates when they hijack Saudi oiltankers.

MR. Kalashnikov and his russian friends are supporting the other side.

Seems to me, to be another Anti American thread by our old friend, the Somalian Realsome.....

"A man may fight for many things.His country,his friends,his principles,the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child.

But personally,I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sackful of porn."

Blackadder.

So, and in other parts of the world?

Example....

The most mines are of Italian manufacture ... but why not just blame the Italians ...however remind I.M.I. (Israel Military Industries)builds weapons to be enough for them and for the rest of the world ...

What does this mean?

The weapons of the Palestinians who have built? Donald Duck?

Gulf rulers are busy trying to raise the price of oil at the recent GCC summit, and negotiate a single currency.

Did we heard anything from the rich gulf rulers?

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

I hate reading news nowadays. How come humans become animals. How come someone can kill with no mercy. I get shocked to listen innocent people dying and being killed. So painfull to know.

I dont care who ever is responsible but it should be stopped. I support all those people who work for achieving peace.

Peace.

Where everyone was condenming both sides, The weirdest comment were made last night by the Czech FM whoes country will be talking over from France as for the EU presidency for the next 6 months. Where he strongly approved of Israel's action.

Have the eastern block country become a mouth piece for America?

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HE WHO DARES WINS

Agree with you about Egypt Brit, Egypt indeed failed the Palestinians in Gaza, I wonder why they cant open the crossing (rafah) I think all of this tragedy will have been avoided if the people in gaza has another opening.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

I wouldn't say "sponsored", but the USA must have given tacit support.

It is too black and white to just blame the Israelis and USA. Egypt had a major role to play in the "negotiations", but supposedly failed.