Double standards? Racism ?
By AP
Judges side with US against Sudan factory owners
WASHINGTON — A federal appeals court has rejected a lawsuit by the owners of a Sudanese factory destroyed by the U.S. government following terrorist attacks on American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
The U.S. retaliated for al-Qaida’s 1998 embassy bombings by conducting a missile strike against the factory the U.S. government believed had ties to Osama bin-Laden’s terrorist network.
In a 9-0 decision Tuesday, the full appeals court said the judiciary has no authority to review a claim that calls into question an executive branch decision on national security.
The owners of the Sudanese plant say the attack ordered by then-President Bill Clinton was unjustified.
Unipolar world...
Wag the dog!
This has nothing to do with Racism or Double Standards. It is more to do with "The Big Dog" being able to do as it pleases because it is the only Big Dog in the World.
Missiles attack on Sudan and Afghanistan in 1998, were the cost of fckng Monica, which B Clinton paid in open air.
Sanctions against Libya couldn't be justified especially over assumptions. It seems to me the UN,ICJ,Security council are there to serve the desires of the fittest.
Maybe one day, the US will apologise to Libya,Sudan,Japan,North Korea,Vitenam,Iran,Iraq...etc , maybe who knows...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7242164.stm
Nations do apologise, sometimes.
No there is no evidence, but at the time it looked suspicious. Hence the sanctions.
Why do I smell oil everywhere I go ...
btw there is no single evidence that Libya or their intelligence carried out the bombing, Libya has agreed to pay the money and let the foreign oil companies back in !!!
The same person who was released in exchange of ...?
Well technically Libya OFFERED the money to the families of the victims of the Lockerbie bombing so that they would have sanctions against them released. Those sanctions were put on because the person who committed the bombing was a member of the Libyan Intelligence Services and it looked an awful lot like Libya and ordered him to do the bombing.
Lockerbie is a one off situation that was never done before or since.
Boy, you missed some fun :) am out :)
wow....
Well Algeria is seeking an apology and compensation over the victims of Nuclear experiments which were conducting inside Algeria so no side effects on the French population, if they win the case, I will help you.
hamada can you help my cause, I want 100 Million Pounds from UK, they shot a few when they were in India. Can you take my case to ICJ
I think when you seek millions of $ as a compensation for the victims of Lockerbie and you compensate an Afghani or an Iraqi with 1/100th fraction of that amount, then yes, you are racist.
Olive I hope you are talking about me :P
YES HAMADA US SHOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO KILL THEIR NATIONALS LIVING THERE AND SHOULD JUST SHUT THE F$%^&$ UP. HOW DARE THEY ENTER A SOVEREIGN NATION. WHAT IF THERE CITIZENS WERE KILLED IN THOSE NATIONS. US CITIZENS ARE %^&%$%^*, THEY DESERVE TO DIE.
You've really stopped making sense now....
Killing innocent people is not acceptable under any circumstances,but I guess bombing another African nation is acceptable, after all they are Africans...
So what if someone bombs their embassies, they have the right to die. They are racist @#$%#^$#%
WK, clearly we are biased, racist and follow double standards as well. We will not understand his point of view. I'm out.
Olive don't you get it. BOMBING EMBASSIES IS NOT A BIG DEAL, NO APOLOGY FOR RETALIATION IS.
So can you find an example of when the US did something like this to another Western nation and apologized?
From my experience they don't apologize for anything.
So in this fantasy of yours hamada, which race has got an apology and which race is being discriminated against?
Yes, If you notice me doing the same to another race and apologise , then yes, I am racist and practising double standards.
You seem to keep missing the fact that the factory was bombed in response to two embassies being bombed. This was hardly unprovoked.
And since you stepped on my toe, you clearly are a racist and observing double standards right ?
I guess I can step on your toe and continue walking if am stronger than you...
Do you understand the meaning of the term racism? How is this against any particular race? And to what is this being compared to be called a double standard? You clearly are a very unbiased individual ! Clearly !
There's really still no proof that they owe anyone an apology.
So one person's life doesn't qualify for an apology ? you violated a nation sovereignty ! simple as that
Am not comparing it with the Holocaust. someone asked for an example and Germany is an example.
curiosity killed the cat :)
Do you know how many years it took for Germany to apologize, and I doubt Libya would have if not forced to. And you can hardly compare the Holocaust and the Lockerbie bombing with the provoked bombing of a factory that killed 1 person.
Some people need to be more objective. Many political acts around you are based on racism.
hamada which nationality are you, just curious..
Why would they need to challenge it? He can't even present it in court. He's got his funds released Khallas, done, nothing more to be said.
Yes, the independent investigation was qualified to prove the fault of a government because it was done under the supervision of a Boston University professor, because he is uniquely qualified to prove a country wrong.....
Germany is still paying compensation for the Jews and did apologize several times. Countries and governments do apologize. Libya had to compensate every single relative of Lockerbie case. Countries do apologize and compensate.
Some people should learn what exactly is Racism
Apology for what? They have not admitted to anything. They dropped the case to avoid matters of national security from being made public, not because they were wrong.
Show me an example of one country accepting the mistake for such an incident and apologizing for it?
You still haven't responded on how this can be called a double standard or racist?
I think that independent investigation was valid, it was carried by a Boston unviersity professor as a supervisor, otherwise the US gov would challenge that investigation.
If I remember correctly the bombing did get media attention 12 years ago when it actually happened, as did the bombings of the two embassies which killed dozens of people. Ever hear the saying All's fair in love and war.
This apology should be directed to the sudanese nation, at least one guy died because of that bombing, my point is that some events get huge publicity, attention and sometimes compensation. I guess the west is very selective.
Also I'd call into question the validity of the "independent" investigation. After all it is being paid for by the guy (or the guys lawyers) who's trying to clear his name, so while it might be independent it's hardly unbiased.
How does this matter differ from the many actions of self defense that many countries have taken and never apologized or accepted? The matter that his funds were released itself is a big deal and wouldn't have been possible in most parts of the world.
I still don't see how this is a double standard? What is this being compared against? How is this racist? What race is being discriminated against here?
Hamada the US government wouldn't apologize to it's own citizens if they made a mistake, why would they apologize to someone who isn't a US citizen?
I see, no one has told me the world is so biased and unfair...
Well it says there, they unfroze his assets. That's as close to an apology a government can give.
sorry about the replication
sorry about the replication
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/336375.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/336375.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/336375.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/336375.stm
What independent investigation? by whom ? where? how? when? I haven't even seen a link for the original post added yet...
Not many countries...Actually NO countries would admit that mistake hamada.
Not a single Penny was received and It was proved by an independent investigation that was a pharmaceutical plant manufacturing medicine, but I guess some people are not objective. The US will never admit any mistakes whether killing a Chinese pilot or occupying Iraq.
Apology for? Have they been proved they were wrong? The case should be lodged in some international organization like the U.N against the U.S, and not in a Judicial Court which cannot try a case against the National Security division.
It doesn't say there was or wasn't one, the article simply said that the federal court had no authority to care through the suit. For all we know there was some compensation and an apology, or perhaps the Sudanese factory was connected to Al Qaida. There's not enough in the story to really say.
I guess why would you apologize for a third world country and compensate an African man...
and ? No apology ? compensation ?
There were attacks on American Embassies and they thought that was where they were stemming from. Hence they blew it up.
There was no war.
LOL obviously. I doubt there's a country in the world that would entertain a suit like this. If they did every person that ever lost a possession in war would be able to sue the government for compensation.
That's what I said Olive. But clearly the OP has a very unbiased view!
They said flat out they have no authority to review a claim that calls into question an executive branch decision regarding national security. I don't see how that's double standards or racism.
Yep, the magic word!
They used the secret words "National Security".
Yes they can.
link? How is it racism? Is it a racist attack against Sudan for being an African Country? How can the judiciary try a case against the US government?
There was an independent investigation after the bombing which clearly indicated that factory was responsible for 50% of Sudan's needed medicine ,but I guess Sudanese lives don't qualify for a compensation unlike Lockerbie...