GETTING MARRIED

Filipinos regardless of location are bound legally by civil laws. Even if he became a muslim, his first marriage is still valid. He can remarry again in Islamic point of view but can be held liable for that under Philippine law.

As per consultation for the first wife, it's not necessary but as a respect, at least he has to inform her.

Are u commenting on this statement of mine? Kindly re-read again....coz u confused me here, lol

Apple said:

"For a Muslim man, he doesn't need to take permission or approval from his wife to remarry, but as a respect, at least to inform her."

Moenasser said:

"Apple... Actually in Islam a man can not remarry #2 without the consult of his wife... with this i mean that he needs to inform her before he marries #2"

From what I understand it's GOOD if you inform her, but you don't have to.

I know.you don't need to get permission [only in few muslim countries] but you have to inform her,for the sake of woman rights.

Ha Ha... It's easier said than done :)

Im not really bothered, one is enough! and not planning to re-marry!

I stand corrected.

However, I belive that from a purely Islamic point of view , he does not even have to notify her...

Perhaps , others can enlighten us..

wow britexpat, you really dont read!

I dont really recal saying he "needs permission" I siad he needs to inform her (notify) that he is getting married! I dont know weather you are a muslim or not, but its best to ask a scholor rather than throw assumptions around.

the way i see it, its people like you who dont read before they comment that cause problems in debating religions! Like i said earlier, im not here to debate i usually never comment but i saw a comment by Apple and just wanted to comment on that. No hard feelings brit.

Enjoy your weekend all!

Thanks...

moenasser: It is people like you who cause problems with understanding religion. Islam does not require a husband to get permission of his wife to marry another. Many countries have enacted this law to protect the woman.

Check this forum, there's lots of women who's husbands have taken 2nd wives who attest to what I'm saying, also we're going by the rules of the state and the state says they don't have to.

to britexpat:

if your legally separated then you can have a new relationship BUT you cannot re marry...if you have children in this new relationship...this would REALLY complicate things...cuz although a person is legally separated from his/her former spouse/family he still has some legal obligations to the "first/old" family...so the "new" child would have to take a back seat when it comes to "obligations" cus the primary responsibility is the "first" family.

i know...it's a "flawed" system...but that's it

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pedhonrade&view=videos

Gypsy, id dont want to turn this into a religous debate thread, but check online sources of trusted scholars and you will see the resemblance in what I have posted earlier... Anyways this is not the question that caps is looking for... so ill rest it at that.

Thankyou sister Gypsy for correcting moenasser !

Pedroh: Thanks for your answer. My questions remain.

If you cannot remarry, then can you cohabit ? If so, what happens to the offspring ?

moenasser, this has been discussed many times on this forum, he does not need to consult his wife to marry another.

Man you married and you are going to get married again you didn’t get your lesson at the first time did you?

Apple... Actually in Islam a man can not remarry #2 without the consult of his wife... with this i mean that he needs to inform her before he marries #2. Thats why most countries following shria law announce second time marraiges in the newspaper, to make sure that he has informed his first wife.

But also again in Islam there are certian conditions that allow you to re-marry for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th time... its not just like "I'm bored so I need to get married again!" its alot more complicated than that when you really want to follow shria!

divorce is not allowed in the philippines...BUT we have annullment and legal separations...basically it's the same as divorce with the exception that you cannot remarry.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pedhonrade&view=videos

If Christians aren't allowed to divorce in the Philipines, then does that mean that :

A. There are lots of unhappy marriages around.

B. People are seperated, but cannot marry their new loves

C. Married people are basically having affairs and possibly living in sin.

religion wise...it might not pose as a problem...BUT legally it will be a problem...cus his first marriage is still valid (he didn't mention if they had a child)...cus that would also complicate the situation.

PEACE!

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pedhonrade&view=videos

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this same situation happened to a friend here in Doha. she & her husband were both from Phillipines, married for 15 years with children. He had an affair, she refused to divorce him (Christians can't divorce in Phillipines anyway) so he spitefully converted to Muslim to marry woman #2. To convert to another religion to marry a mistress has to be one of the lowest things a man could do in my opinion. God will make it right in the end.

For a Muslim man, he doesn't need to take permission or approval from his wife to remarry, but as a respect, at least to inform her.

Is there a need for the muslim men to get the approval of their first wife before they can marry the second wife? If He went back to the Philippines again, would he be legally liable for marrying another one even it happened here in Qatar?

"You are built not to shrink down to less but to blossom into more" - Ophrah Winfrey-

He is long time "separated" with his wife, but since there is no divorce for Filipino Christians, then their marriage is still valid.

dear brother , first of all i want to welcome you in islam and may ALLAH make ur path clear of problems and make u a good muslim , i want to advise you that u had converted to islam , why dont u tell ur first wife to convert also and u live toghater for the rest of ur life and if u need any assitance in her visa i am ready to help u for that . any time u can contact me for that 6101090

he cannot marry a Muslima before convertion to Islam, he has to accept Islam first then marry :)

Its a religion NOT citizenship :D

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he will became Muslim AFTER marriage with a muslima Lady.

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but you see, he is Muslim now? :D

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Wrong , again!

He IS already married.

As per Christian religion, another marriage it's illegal one.

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"I married and I have a chruch wedding in Philippies"

CHURCH WEDDING!

CHURCH means Christian!

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On topic, yes! its possible for you to marry a Muslim lady or even a Non-Muslim (Jew or Christian) since you already embraced Islam. You have every right now of a Filipino Muslim under Shariah Law,...your marriage with the first wife will not be automatically nullified though, but allowable for you to have more than 1 wife.

Divorce is allowed for Filipino Muslims couple in the Philippines (Philippine Decree #1083)... :)

http://jlp-law.com/blog/annulment-divorce-legal-separation-in-the-philippines-questions-and-answers/

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divorce is not allowed in the Philippines.

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why don't you just divorce the first wife? Does she even know about your intention to remarry? Something doesn't seem right here.

Even if you were to marry here in Qatar your first marriage would not be nullified. If and when you go back to the Philippines you will still be legally married to that wife. Perhaps you should consider divorce if you wish to remarry.

Mandi

Yes you can marry a muslim lady.

You will need your shahada certificate.

Is the lady single? Filipina?

If yes, you will need a certificate of singleness.

If not forget about it.