why asian guys can't get white girls

Hmm.. thread resurrected after 1 n 1/2 years..

AbuAmerican, generally agree with what you said except for "High maintenance what a crock of crap. Who subsidies Asian women lives??"

- Understand where you're coming from and while generally true, as always, not all are subsidized. Which reminds me of the question I almost always get asked by almost everyone who meets me for the 1st or 1st few times and their shocked looks (esp. the women) when they find out I'm not subsidized by any man. I can see their blind assumptions but I don't react much usually unless I've had a really bad work day, overworked, tired and/or hungry (= cranky) then oops...

Agree with Scarlett - "Western women (or like minded ones) ARE independent and yes, that is a great trait because they can always stand strong for their mates when the time comes and its needed. they can also be there for their mates to lean upon when the going gets tough and perhaps they are laid off work or physically disabled. Can someone who was never ALLOWED to work do that? Probably not".

"I would have issues with someone who wished to dominate me and make me less than what I can be or am. Religion might be a bit of an issue simply due to some of the extreme differences... So guys, stop blaming the women or what race/nationality they are for your shortcomings as a mate. Pull up your jockeys and grow up."

- Hear hear!

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Don't want no drama,

No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama

Not money, but Size does matters my friend. So the saying goes "Big, Fat, Tall fits them All" ...cheers

i dont think so...asian guys like me can also go with western girls and height,color,size,etc,ect. is not a barrier..i love travel and i go out with white friends and they do like asians most ..actually am a filipino but my family ,my wife and my kids live in oslo,norway ..why not try asian guys,they are friendly and great lovers too...

Whew! 100+ posts and I’ve read all of them and the 1 I found the best answer was by baedaebok:

(2) Asian boys have more family roles and responsibilities than their female counterparts (e.g., the eldest son must do annual memorial service for parents).

As for my own answer, Asian guy (like me, a Filipino) can’t get a western girl (coz I don’t like the sound of "white girls") is first, the girls lifestyle. Probably the reason why western women are misjudge of being a “high maintenance” because Southeast Asian guys tend to live simpler lives than our western counterparts. Secondly, it will be very rare for a western girl and an Asian guy to have the same preferences for example, food. Western people can live on bread, meat and fruits alone but Asians need rice! =)

These are just some of the troubles I find why it’s very hard for an Asian to grab a western girl. But given the chance, why not? It’s no big secret that no matter what their nationality is, a woman is a woman and they only want the same thing. To be in charge of their life.

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Not enough interaction between the both...

In the west there are no such limitations...all guys n girls date each other, irrespective of their colour/religion or whatever you guys call..

whereas over here people do not get to mingle...

"Expensive to maintain"

Now that depends on person to peson...

If a girl really loves you she will live with you in a slum....

Guess you guys only looking for time pass....

You can't teach experience...

Moi Racist? Perish the thought! I believe that Indians are great people and that every home should have at least one........Yippee, Yippeee, its GORDONS gin for me!

WINNER Gordons Gin Personal Consumption Award 2008 Hic!

Your words say that you are a racist. You mentioned "White" and mentioning color white/black is racism.

They clear their throats with volume.

They spit with volume

They wobble their heads all the time - tried kissing moving lips?

They smell of very cheap after shave

They work as T boys.

Those who drive, drive a Corolla or a bus. Not sexy.

They aint allowed in Malls at weekends.

Thats it! Hic! Back to the gin! Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Asian Guys can get and do get western girls! I know many. I am one of em! ;)

I'm sorry, but this is the first time I've seen a post that makes me laugh at the ridiculousness of it, yet angry at how infuriating it is!

How did it get over a hundred posts!  Is it actually rare to see a western girl with an oriental guy.  I don't think so!

It is all in the context of where you live!  If you live in an oriental country, then many western women that live there date oriental guys.  If you live in a western country, then the oriental women that live there date western guys.

Please be more specific about where you see this going on!  I know plenty of western girls and oriental guys that date!  I'm oriental, and I've only ever dated 2 oriental girls, the rest have been from all around the world including the US and Europe.

Now I've seen it all. People stereotyping their own, and not even in jest!!!

I'll be honest and say...

I didn't read all this post...

But my full American Daughter is with asian guy....

They look funny together but I have no problem with it...

As long as they love each other fine for me...

I see many asian guy with white girl...

Maybe, just they don't attracted to you???

Who knows???

 can't teach experience...

I'll speak about East Asian people since I'm familiar with them.   I married an Asian woman and this is what we've come up with.

Asian girls more often date and marry non-Asian boys because...

(1)  Asian girls are less traditional than Asian boys.  They want out of the traditional expectations that they would be stuck with if they married an Asian boy.  In contrast, Asian boys are the keepers of tradition so they favour other Asians who will help keep the tradition.

(2)  Asian boys have more family roles and responsibilities than their female counterparts (e.g., the eldest son must do annual memorial service for parents). 

..., unless all I have read here above, a cultural one. Money might be a first intention of asian girls, but why relationships often work out one way but hardly the other is the following: Asian culture includes that women are more patient, they have a servicing heart, in contrary Western girls are not only used but almost trained to have a career of "self-realization". The respective men of each culture are used to their cultural way, which means:

For asian girls the great freedom they get with western guys compared to a subservient life with their own countrymen is very attractive, on the other hand most asian men who are used to the servility of their own countrygirls cannot cope with the selfrealization trip of most western girls, neither can those self-centered girls cope with the demands of asian guys for an obeisant girl.

I am very surprise of this topic. WOMEN ...caucasian .........asians........sub-continent...they are all the same......

Sensitivity all the same.....wat they look for .......all the same.

Its whether you are attractive to them or not! Being attractive does not means that you need to be hensem or a model kinda product .....as long as the other party finds that you fit in tats all to it.....

So no mud slinging please....Not enuff water to go round in Qatar to clean oneself. Heheheheheheh

Awwwwwwwww Milos you mean we asisn earns pittance as compared to the westerners.......dun mentioned Whites here laaaaaaaaa.....

I can drouse myself in White paint ....then i will call myself white oso....can arrrrrr???

ok... much that colour and race have become much of an issue..

i am indian married to a european..  strange enough yes i did feel the world stare at me now has become something i ignore much that it wasnt because of the comforts that i thought about but was more of his personality.

Ps: the money is an extra but i earn just as much so that wicket is down too...

find another topic to discuss...  

your ""well i would like to add that, a girl iz a girl, no matter what colour she iz.. all girls want more or less the same thing.."" doesn't give a good picture of your thoughts.

Sorry, I forgot where you coming from. Its not your problem. MCP.

""They walk among us !! And they reproduce""

well i would like to add that, a girl iz a girl, no matter what colour she iz.. all girls want more or less the same thing..

confidence, how u approach them, how u deal wid them, wht kind of person are u.

money etc, are also considered but different people have different ways in which things are handled. and i have seen many guys, wid nothin and hooking up with millionare gals..

according to me its all abt how u caryy and express urself.

Why do the asian guys "want" white girls? Why dont they stick to the oriental girls. The oreintal girls are also very pretty and charming. I would rather go for the oreintal girls than to go to extreme limits to get the white girls.

Looks as if the problem here is that the asian guys do not seem content with their own type and are looking forward to some genetic diversity.

Anyways Asian Guys try staying with the asian girls as they are worth much more than what you people are perceiving.

exactly what some of us have been trying to convey throughout this thread.

so you haven't been left out!

european asian - euro asian

what is this guys?

jst find 1 who cares abt u mor than anything and thats all

forget abt money, race, culture, traditions, religion and all the other things if u relly love and care abt each other.

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We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors; but they all have to learn to live in the same box.

try watching the movie :SHANGAI KISS"

or somebody watch it already??

(this is related to the topic anyway.)

Asian guys particularly indians are changing now.... But not too significant, they are stuck in medieval ages.....

got to hit the deck early.

Scars hope these QLers have arranged a welcome back party for you.I wonder why was I not invited? Damn! my misplaced sense of humour I guess:(

Life is too short and if u r not living on the edge then u r taking up too much space.

careful what you wish for...someday might come true and then where would you be??? IN DEEP DOO DOO!!!! lol

wish I could experience it myself.:( too late I guess

Life is too short and if u r not living on the edge then u r taking up too much space.

ok Amigo...NOW we know what lurks beneath that cool exterior...

when it comes to men selection, their preferences are mind boggling:)

Think beyond white chicks guys.....Once with a black there is no turning back.

Life is too short and if u r not living on the edge then u r taking up too much space.

now you see us, now you don't...because we know better

Money and superior color tone,,,,,

The Red Pope of Qatar Living

People, seriously, do u really think the ****** up guy wanted an opinion? He's just sittin back and laughin his *** off seeing all ur replies. Though stupid, but have to give it to him for making u all reply - cool trigger bozo! Good comments pwb78 - am with u.

Lets all try to keep QL freaks-free and not get tempted by such triggers again.

Today I got an email from a lady co-worker at the office with the Subject

"CHICK"

When I say the message in my inbox with the subject CHICK I was like should I open it or not? as it might contain some objectionable material (you all know what I mean, freaks). Finally I mustered up my courage and checked the email and it was to Check some isomterics.

Long time ago (looks like ages) when I was a student I was very good friends with two chinese girls, we used to do all our assignments together. Then an indian Guy took one course with us and he also became our friend. Somehow somewhere something clicked and he started having a crush on one of the chinese girls. So one day when the three of us were sitting together (me and the two girls) one of them asked the other what did she think of the indian guy as he is asking her to go on a date and the other girl advised her not to go with the indian guy as he will never marry her and he just wants to have some fun....

It is not that the indian guys are bad but the problem is that when it comes to marriage they go with their parents choice.

I know many old white guys go to phillipines to look for brides and they do get brides. I know for a fact that one day when I decide to get married (although I plan to stay single at the moment) I would have no difficulty in getting a bride in Afghanistan. The problem is the poverty and the culture where people consider girls as burden. it a sad reality but to change people's thinkings will take a long time. Women have been exploited by men for centuries and men will continue to take advantage of them unless women themselves rise to the challenge.

and that western women are a mirage NOT reality...

Ohh fiddledeedee.....

My simplest explanation is that Asian males are much smarter than their female couterparts. They can easily distinguish between Mirage and reality. That is their strength as well as their problem.

Does that sound a reasonable explanation??

Makes women sound like fishing...catches and keepers...Dude, you have to use the right bait and from the looks of your posts..honey, you ain't got it!!! some of the others guys are just the same..Sputnik for one..geezzzzzzz get a grip, man...

"Its nothin to do with size n looks, it sure does with the money. Also I believe communication problem is there, usually u find the asians with good accent, I'm talkin as in majorities n minority. Also these white chicks are a bit expensive to keep. well but it is common. I had one before, infact i believe they are easier catch... well guys dont get me wrong here, but I'm tellin you this from my experience."

BS on the money issue...most women marry men because they love them, period, the end. Money can come along the way, or not at all. Western women ARE independent and yes, that is a great trait because they can always stand strong for their mates when the time comes and its needed. they can also be there for their mates to lean upon when the going gets tough and perhaps they are laid off work or physically disabled. Can someone who was never ALLOWED to work do that? Probably not.

women are women all over the world. You can't put us in a box with a list of traits just because of where we were born. Just for future reference...those men who are looking for mates...treat women with respect and you'll GET respect. Treat women with love and you'll get it back 10 times over. Yep there are bad apples in each bunch..but you know what? the good ones out number the bad one, but you have to look more than just on the surface to find that, and most don't take the time or effort to do that.

Now..on a personal level...I can't think of a race of men that is unattractive. I mean, if I was single, race would have nothing to do with my choice of who I dated or not...nor would money. I would have issues with someone who wished to dominate me and make me less than what I can be or am. Religion might be a bit of an issue simply due to some of the extreme differences, but again..if you love someone, that can be over come.

So guys, stop blaming the women or what race/nationality they are for your shortcomings as a mate. Pull up your jockeys and grow up.

well thats because of money

"Low Class Indians???"............where did THAT come from? Ad hominem style arguments should be avoided at any cost, friend.

On one hand you say that "Indians make judgments bases on personality traits" and then in the same breath you go and make a few judgments yourself? I think that was an extremely reckless, feudal and irrational remark.

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it"

I like to read them.

1 is not 100!

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share your life with me as we are different:)

My Bad DG! How could I forget you girls!

"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco

U seem to be confused.

why dont u decide if Indians are "low class indians" or "elite work force".

U seem to be from across the border and still live in a shell.

People who are working in this part of the world have definitely feelings of inferiority complex ...Esp with the low class indians....

Their thrust for money drives them mad.... & they jump to conclusions based on personality traits..... This is true even with the Indian work force over here..... that too the elite work force esp the Indians....

white chicks black chicks khaleejia chicks asian chicks..indian......!

lol...the best chick i like is the chick(en) i have for dinner!!!

guys they are more or less the same and they like the same things too!!!

"the difference is in the eyes of the beholder"

do it right - the first time!

Hey Gypsy, you didn't mention us free-spirited independent Khaleejia chicks!

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Love is the answer...

we keep thinking along those lines. maybe its about time we left such feudal ideas like race separate us. perhaps there are yet among us who feel superior because of their skin, or vice versa. but such people are no shining examples of the people they represent.

and to answer to this post,I am an Asian male, indian at that and let me tell you that no girl likes to be GOT. i think we should all get together and devote our time and enegry to less trivial questions. mind you i don not say that it is isnt your right to post such issues here, it is a free forum. but perhaps if you look deep inside yourself, maybe the reason you started such a thread was because you look like a person who is angry he cant "GET A WHITE GIRL", or angry at "WHITE GIRLS" coz he cant GET one.

DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN REAL LIFE AND THE SIMS. YOU CANT DO EVERYTHING BY CLICKING BUTTONS. :-)

peace

U wanna work...its upto u...he doesnt want u to work...that means he is looking at this whole life thing in a diff manner...u need to be out there in the society...have a name...have a living...u dont want to be in a position that u buy gifts for ur husband or freinds...off his money do u...u want to do those things urself...have some of the finer desires of urs ...with ur own money champ...so guess...u shud talk it out...he loves u...u love him...fine...but when it comes to these small things...sort them out now...better now than never u see...

If someone wanted to work...pls i wud be GO AHEAD...i might as well sit in the house...lol...but truly speaking...pls live ur life as u want to ...but end of the day...come back HOME...and give me that TRUST i want...thats all...simple aint it...ppl...>?

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u can see how taft i am from the 'they are just girls' part:)

and imho. i dont like the way too traditional for both sides. i dont like some habits of westerns and some easterns.. so i want a girl who has the best sides of the both sides:p

MissLillywhite I would say you're looking in the wrong direction if he doesn't want you to work.

Unfortunately many Asian guys are just too traditional for us free spirited white chicks. :P

"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco

got me shakin' in me wellies wiv desire, here :P

hehehe sorry, couldn't resist (as a mother figure I mean)

here not many (western) white girls that is the reason. if u were living in europe u wud have plenty of:p

and comparing asians to westerns... japanese and chinese guys i met were %90 soo shy and quiet. they have different topics to talk different habits etc.

indians i met here some are really nice some maybe a girl wudnt want. bec of cultural facts.

arabs maybe irritating and having bad aims. some may not have. but their culture wud force them to be with a 'good' girl not a free one like westerns so he may have to leave the girl. or even he likes he may consider her for 'fun'

and turks. we are white but i dont define myself as european although we seem like we are some part of it:p

more like arabs. but the good guys amount is a bit more than them. like there may be ones like that but it is decreasing nowadays a guy thinking that this girl is not a good fit for my family and culture so in the end we can consider him as a good guy:)

also not strict like arabs in many subjects..

but yea i am a dominating one! even i dont look so:)

and western girls... they are just girls:)

Absolutely right diamond. It starts from this simple thing and slowly but surely takes a serious turn gradually.

Ur guy sounds like Imz.. Both have same mentality and must have grown together

I will agree with DG... maybe you guys don't need the money, but working is good to keep you active and interacting with different people.

You want to make that decision yourself and not let anyone else tell you what to do. By telling you that he don't want you to work is probably showing you how nice he is and assuring you that he will take care of the monetary part, that is good, but as an individual, I'm sure you'd like to spend your own money.

Misslillywhite...your suitor does not want you to work? Why ever not? I would be very wary of this...isn't it up to you whether you want to work..and would you be happy depending on someone for your finances?

Perhaps down the line there may be other things that he will not want you to do...decisions that he may make for you, etc...

Things to think over...best of luck whatever you decide.

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Love is the answer...

I know I am a late commer in this forum. But i realy felt sad to read ur comment that Asian women are capable of taking more suffering.

Why do u sound like from an age when there was no electricity or gun powder invented.

Why do u need any women to suffer and what great sadistic pleasure u get by that.

I am an asian from India.. but ur comments sucks man....

Hi Miss.lilly,

Men will be men but Indian men are simply hipocrates. I am repeating this word (chk my earlier post) as I know what kind of a breed are we.

As for us listening to our parents.... they are as good in this matter as any body else world over.

lot of change happening in India since last 2 decades and at the same time there are huge pockets of our country which is still living in medieaval ages... Ur guy must be among the crowd from that area... For such men working ladies (be it their sister or better half) create lot of problem....

Its actually in the mind. U or for that matter NO-ONE can help them.

Best of luck to u...

Are all Indian men like that? They say a lot of nice things, treat you nice in public, but do they really listen to their parents that closely? I have met an Indian Man who I could fall in love with but because he is so nice it scares me. Doesn't want me to work, says that his parents are not choosing someone for him. Is this all real or am I looking in the wrong place?

Hi All,

Please try to show some respect to all females irrespective of nationality or colour.

I belong to Mumbai, India and have personal experience of Asain girls (while dating them or otherwise), not being any more or less materialistic than her counterpart else where.

Men here need to understand a simple thing - You want respect, first know how to give respect. Asian men are simply hipocrates......

Hi aviduser,

there is a lot of rubbish written here but atleast you do not seem to be biased towards any continent (READ - Asian / Europeon).

If people dont like to spend on dates.... etc why the h*** blame western females.

I am an Asian myself.

I suppose there are more Asian men who do not have confidence and still live with a feeling of imperialism.

This is too funny! Just treat women of all nationalities the same as you would like to be treated. It's a respect and compromise deal. It's hard with the cultural barriers, but there is a common denominator with all people. Treat them as your equal and show them you care. Reciprocate when they do something nice for you. She is your queen and you are her king. Neither of those is a survant!

you can find lots of those couples in Bali..there is so many western woman marrying indonesian guy in Bali and have lots of kids and look so happy.

From the size indonesian guy is not that big..but Balinese have very nice tanned skin. is that why?eh eh i dont think so.

thats nature secret guys. You will never find the solution when you discuss this..but keep going on with everyone different opinion.

Why dont we talk : "A woman and a guy of my dream " or "10 things I hate from my opposite sex"----> at least you can learn from this.

Its like a collect, collect and then select kinda thing you know.. :)

ROFL "I have never been able to ACCOST western women" Christ I hope not Sputty! Or we would have to report you to the police.

So Western women are hard to get? Fantastic, defintely beats being thought of as degenerate sluts. :P

I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart

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See my new signature?

Just keep dancing, it will do you good!

OOh gypsy u amused me with ur irrational association with my nationality....... I have never been able to accost western women out here in fact the strange part is they are not willing to associate and socialise.... with their false ego and superior inferior divide.....

"Perhaps this is another reason Asian men can't get Western women, they can't seperate TV from reality. Guess what, western women want husbands, babies, safety and security just like any Asian women. :P"

Well said Gypsy. I'll agree that asians (more so Indians and Pakis) are bigger culprits when it comes to stereotyping. They tend to to look at Hollywood to formulate opinions on western women.

half and half is OK for me,

set the date and time :))

Sputty I love how you dislike Western women simply because they continue to turn you down. I wonder how much that has to do with your nationality and how much to do with your attitude?

If an Asian woman doesn't flee from an abusive or inadequate relationship it has nothing to do with her loyalty, and everything to do with pressure from her culture. :P

I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart

to you never but to some yes

Yeah foundador it has never happend to me before.. Even I am in search of a female out here Never does such things click....

my wife is from new zealand and i'm filipino. we met, when i was working in new zealand 3 years ago. i'm not a good looking guy but it just click somewhere along the way, we did end up together.

i think western girls are more comitted then asian sometimes i have lived in delhi for abt 7 yrs frm what i see here n frm my experience i see girls are more materialist at this side of the world. there has been a complet and a very rapid change in culture coz of media boom what is hapening here is the asian girls are trying to be western tyring to copy there way of life style and the western are trying to be more like asian girl as they need more security n stability in a relationship if i am correct few weeks back it was in the newz i would like to name of the new paper also who puplishd the article abt the same issue which we ppl are talking here the name it was Times Of India new delhi edition. in that it was clearly stated that western girls are looking toward asian men as they need more security n stability in there relationship which they are not getting at there part of the world.

well to sum up the whole thing n not to drag this topic very long i feel western women are much better in many ways then there aisan counter part this you can only kno when you get to kno them personally not knowing them frm some media n movies why i am saying this coz i have been in relation with both western girls as well as asian.

may be my comment are racist and might hurt the sentiment of some comunity ppl but all i was trying to do here was to prove my point. i was jus trying to prove my point here.

Hi all, long time no see guys.

Well when it comes to the money factor there are a lot of girls who would like to have relations with boys for that but this is not a major factor. It is really wrong to consider any relation between a girl and a guy money based relation especially if the girl does not work or have a job. There are a lot of other factors that we can build our relations on. What is build on money never last, what is build on cheating and lies too as well.

It is so true that you will find an Arabic guy would be good, but for the other mentioned reasons [married and treat 3 or more girls the same way] they are guys that you love to hate. Having a wife means and going outside with other women is cheating and betrayal. Going with a girl and after that hanging out with others and tell them the same means big lier and good at speaking what he does not really feel. You can't feel the same and talk the same with other girls. I was just wondering how can a guy be sitting with a girl telling her things [lies] like: You are the only one, I love you, I can see no one but you, are you the last woman on this earth? and after that to say the same thing to another girl.

That was one of the reasons for me not to hang out with girls, look for any. I know that someone would say it is impossible, but I don't like to waste my time and the girl time telling her lies and talking about things that I know it would never happen. I'm not happy or proud with that but I prefer to stay lonely than getting other people in trouble. Nothing can be bad more than living a life like that, telling lies all the day and sleep so comfortable in the night while other people can't sleep.

Religious issue is another thing, if we can live with that together. I'm sure that the one who will pay in the end would be our children. They would be lost in between because the father want them to follow his religion while the mother would be from the other side teaching them her religion. Religion is something important and if you are not comfortable at this side, you would be always in trouble. Can this end up with a divorce? If it ends like that then how can this get any better? Most of the problems happened because there are no such strong base for our relations with other people. If I can find a girl who would love me and respect me the same way or even more the way that I would feeling for her, I would not care about the whole world as well as she would be there beside me. She would be my everything and I would not be getting that from here to grant it.

Anyway, ... Talking a lot like usual guess I have to stop here :).

To rap up it up for sure asian women are much more grounded and realistic in life compared to western women... Although in many cases generally the wife suffers in an asian household but she braves up to it and doesnt flock for freedom instantly...

American females in particular are the most vivid examples of such incompatibility..Believe me i tried meeting a western teacher out here & boy she was really unwilling....

Imz Family life calls for huge responsibilities and to shoulder them is equally tough.... And a western female sets a totally bad example in that scenario......

Stephen Hawkings wife filed for divorce just for the sake of freedom and that he was paralysed......

Sorry Imz and all if this has been addressed but due to jet lag I missed it!!

You said that asian waomen are "worth" more because they are more devoted to their spouses etc. I say no to that. What you are refering to are choices. Western women(and yes I know this is a bit of an old generalisation)tend to have more choice in what happens. For example in more conservative societies (and in the past in the west) women simply accepted whatever was doled out whether it be a cheating spouse, a lazy spouse, unacceptable way of life etc etc. Women in the west no longer have o put up with this. They are free to walk away from a situation which makes them unhappy if that is the choice they make. As for the comment about asian women praying for the recovery of sick spouses and so on, well I'm western and if my SO was in any kind of dilemma , belive me when i say I'd be doing whatever it took to bring him out of it, whether it be a bed side vigil, a silent prayer or major life choice, and if anything, you should bear in mind that because of the freedom we have to make these choices, a western woman would be doing because she WANTED TO, but not because it was a duty (of course i am in NO WAY implying that an asian woman wouldn't choose to do exactly the same thing, and I'm sure those of you who want to get my point here, will, and those of you who don't, well,won't!) Sorry if this is a bit rambling, but as I mentioned jet lag and defence of my gender and culture are a potent mix!!!

actualy the blame is not on the white guy or asian girl...

the blame is on the individual who have lack of confidence expressing them self or initiate an conversation whether it is an asian or white girl. i must admit i was belong on that indvidual with lack of confidennce. i like white girl as much as i like asian girls, but because of my small things... called confidence i end up nothing.

why some people have lot of confidence and while others lack of it?

Could it be Asian men (Oriental) are generally have smaller body built and tend to be a bit shy?? and Asian Men (Arabs) are well... conservative by heart ;)... thinking (just thinking) that western women are more open and they couldnt take it??

Western women are more cautious about the Asian Arabs playful habits and wouldnt want to waste their time???

Anyone who knows one Arab man who doesnt play around???

Imz, when you say: "I've seen western marriages run off in 48 hrs.." are you implying that there are no short-lived Asian marriages?

Fact: I know an East African Asian man, a Pakistan-originating family who moved to Britain around 20 years ago.

His father told him: It's okay for you to date English women to get some 'experience' (nudge nudge wink wink) but you can't marry one.

So much for those high standards when it comes to pre-marital sex. It's bad if a woman has sex before marriage, but it's not only accepted, it's practically obligatory for an otherwise respectable muslim man to have sex before marriage -- so long as it's with white women and not his own kind -- wouldn't want to sully their reputation!

He eventually got married -- it was an arranged marriage, it wasn't forced, i.e. he had a chance to meet his future bride and agree to the union.

When I last met him, he told me his wife left him after only two weeks and he was in the process of getting divorced.

So that's an Asian marriage that lasted only two weeks.

Apparently, it wasn't the only instance either. I was informed there were other cases where brides left their husbands soon after the wedding, taking their dowry with them. As you know a dowry can amount to thousands upon thousands of pounds. And there are some unscrupulous Asian women out there who will marry in order to carry out a scam ripping their groom off to the tune of the dowry.

Do I look down on all Asian men or all Asian women because of the bad behaviour of a very small minority? No.

So how about giving a similar amount of respect to the many white women who you're unfairly slagging off?

Ummmm....cause they're cute? LOL. I don't know. I don't see why I should get involved with any guy myself. LOL.

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been on both sides of the coin... as in western man/western woman, and asian man/western woman....

Won't go into the first relationship.... was good, still good friends, but we are divorced... But he could marry me and he never cheated and was there for me....

have been involved with 2 asian men. One Indian, the other Arab....

Totally loved the Indian boy, treated me like a princess... was always and still is there for me.... but family issues wouldn't let us marry... I apparently am not Indian enough... gee and here I thought dancing to bollywood songs and loving hindi movies would do the trick.... ROLF....

Arab boy... lets just say, never has time for me.... I was sick and went to hospital.. didn't even get a phone call to check if I was ok.... I haven't heard from him for a week.... is that normal? and as Gypsy says... "There the guys you love to hate. Good-looking, speak great English, treat you like an equal and a lady...but unfortunatly they are treating at least 3 other girls and their wife like that at the same time. Shame really."

So... tell me.... with such heartbreaks... why should western girls involved themselves with Asian boys?

Imz said: "But man that’s how they'r brought up and that’s there side of the world."

You also said: "...Also these white chicks are a bit expensive to keep. well but it is common. I had one before, infact i believe they are easier catch... well guys dont get me wrong here, but I'm tellin you this from my experience..."

And: "...Also White chicks want a lot of freedom, I mean understand freedom, but a lot..Excess of anything is bad. I'm sure all of us agree to this..."

And: "...but you are quite right Western females are of less value once you comapre them to asians..."

What does that say about how you were brought up?

It tells me that you were brought up to have little to no respect for women, that you like to use and discard women callously (women who may actually care for you very much, but you treat them like dirt in return). Your language tells me that you objectify women, you don't relate to them as equals, or even as individuals, fellow human beings.

You say: "...I had one before...", that's *one* white 'chick' and on the basis of that one relationship, with one white woman, you offensively stereotype all white women?

The above tells me all I need to know about how you were brought up.

Hehehe oh man this is gonna b the start of a lot of racist comments now !!! better strap urself in gyps !!! toodelss !!!

You need to move to Canada and date Canadian girls. A lot of girls I know were in similar situations or still are, Many Canadian men have very little get up and go. (I'm going to get into a lot of trouble with that statement I can see it now).

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Im yet to meet a girl who would pay for there share of anything... every 1 i have ever been out with has cleaned me out :(

Where were u few yrs ago gypsy .. i would have been so happy n rich now :) ... we need a ship load of u here in doha to smooth things out for every 1 :P

LOL Sinbad, I gave up on that. I'm willing to pay half and half now and that's it.

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Imz, I've seen Western women stay up for days praying for their spouse or child, just because fasting is not part of their religion doesn't mean that western women don't have values! As for 48 hour marriages you can't use Britney Spears or any other celebrity as an example of Western culture, anymore then I could use some Bollywood star as an example of yours. I don't know a single person who's ever married for 48 hours, and with the exception of celeberties have never heard of one last that little bit of time.

Perhaps this is another reason Asian men can't get Western women, they can't seperate TV from reality. Guess what, western women want husbands, babies, safety and security just like any Asian women. :P

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" In fact my money always went to pay for both of us, food, bills, entertainment,etc "

Do u mind if we go out together!!

looooooool

Less value as in compared to asians. Trust me I don't know abt this if its true, but I've seen Indain ladies starving whole day due to some spiritual fast or somethin like that to pray for their partner to live more.. I don’t believe in this, but I'm sure non of the western woman can do that. Correct me if I'm wrong. I've seen western marriages run off in 48 hrs.. Not considering Britney Spears for instead, I'm talkin in general. When it comes to suffering, the lady will never suffer in west side, but the lady does suffer all the time in the Asian side. I'm not saying that this is right. I'm saying they have more tolerance thatn westerns. I mean westerners are more rigid.

So far for the money side. Well nowadays it is common that you pay ur share and I do mine, or else the guy pays, but from what u've said it means u've spent a lot on guys who were never worth it. Are you still in the habit of paying for guys, than I'd be more than happy to present you my views over a dinner table. Wouldn't mind if you call me another unworthy guy. But ya for dinner I'm always available.

Lol!! He he he!

Honestly I find it really funny that guys think that money is a factor in a relationship, all of my major relationships have been with guys that earn less than me. In fact my money always went to pay for both of us, food, bills, entertainment,etc, while there money paid for them.

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to treat western woman like that..hmmm i feel pity for u the male western!

We woman like to be spoiled..all of us..not only material but also spiritual..see what i mean?

Western women are of less value??? Excuse me IMz, what kind of comment is that? Western women are not worth less than Asian women. That is a ridiculous sexist comment and you should be ashamed of yourself. >:(

Honey, it might be a bit different with older European couples, but with young Western guys they generally treat Asian women better than Western women.

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your comment about your friends night out were right. I'm asian and my hubby are european. I treat him like my king, i feel it more and more that he behave like one. hehehe

when i went out with all my friends he was so gummy, taking me a drink and dance with me whenever i want, or left with me if i ask him so. He so dependent on me. or maybe he just like me to let him to pleased me and make me feel like im his princess.

But my life are so different since. with a guy with the same nationality (indonesian) i wont get any treatment like this. They are so bossy and selfish..when they will have little bit of money in their pocket they will go for another fish on the market. oh so obvious!

My father in law are european (ofcourse) looking at him bring breakfast in bed every mornig to my mother in law are so sweet, he treat her like princess even so they are so old now! so idont see any different here that western guy treat their asian or western woman differently. hmmmmm confusing!

Western woman is like no toy. Also White chicks want a lot of freedom, I mean understand freedom, but a lot..Excess of anything is bad. I'm sure all of us agree to this.

Asian guys have the tendency of dominating over females, which certainly white females cant stand it, if she's extra polite she might be able to take it once, but then if you really wanna be with her don’t try it for the next time, coz you never know you might end up with a broken limb.. Lol!! But ya at times it is true.

As for Greek.. You guessed it quite right mate your old. Love--- ya I wish I could fall in it just once. Just to know how I feel abt it. May be for Mr. greek it does, atleast I'm being true it hasn't happened to me yet.

As for Sputnik - I juss wanna tell you I'm no swinger man!, but you are quite right Western females are of less value once you comapre them to asians. But man that’s how they'r brought up and that’s there side of the world.

I think Imz got most of the answer with "easy to keep". Western women don't like to be treated like objects or toys that you either keep or throw away.

Keep in mind also that Western women are used to a fair bit of independence and equality from their significant other, which is hard to get from an Asian man, as many tend to be more traditional.

From my own experience, number one I want to state the money is not a factor in any of my choices since I make my own thank you, I found Korean and Japanese men to be extremely attractive, many (of the younger ones) were willing to accept me as an equal partner, but for the most part I couldn't find one that spoke enough English for me to have a relationship with, and I unfortunatly didn't speak enough Korean or Japanese. So in that case it was a language barrier, because women tend to need to be able to talk to their mates more so than men (no shots intended).

Sub-Continent: I find Indian and Pakistani men to be pretty attractive to, in this case as well it's a language barrier and much more so a cultural and "class" barrier. Indian and Pakistani men tend to be very very traditional which is not something I could deal with. (However I have met some who grew up in England and Canada whom are fantastic, but always either married or have a girlfriend).

Arab: There the guys you love to hate. Good-looking, speak great English, treat you like and equal and a lady...but unfortunatly they are treating at least 3 other girls and their wife like that at the same time. Shame really. :P Also huge religion issue, if you don't want to convert (and sometimes even if you do).

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why asian guys dun go for white girls?

maybe we are just intimidated by them or they are not approachable at all, or imz is right white chicks are a bit expensive to keep.

you can answer the question of which asian group you think much more applicable, wheter oriental, sub-continent or arab.

Wrong, it should be "Why Asian Guys dun go for white girls?"

How many Asian guys do you see over here, sheer weight of numbers, I would think. Ok but my fiancee thinks its because the asian girls here are more westernised and therefore would have more in common with them.

Also there are alot of Asian Girls dating Asian Guys here, perhaps you just don't see them, trust me she is Korean and would know the numbers.

Perhaps you don't notice an Asian/Asian couple but notice an Asian white match more because it sticks in your brain.

I have seen loads of Fillipino Couples out together, and I am told that Fillipino girls would much rather go out with Fillipino boys here as they have more in common and are not just trated as sex objects which we know many Arab guys do.

Sputnik, that wasnt in good taste.

And that post was bad, with a CAPITAL 'B'.

OK - Qatari, I volunteer to start the group named "Stupid Stereotypes and Generalizations." So, instead of having these retarded posts every 3 days, we'll just have a group and everyone can go there and free up the board for more important things like cell phone ads and salary questions.

Hi iMz u talk as if u r a swinger dude western females are unreliable and secondly they are like that Use & throw sort of sh***t no Value ..... Thats why when it comes to an asian man he has a high value for a woman of any descent

'Easier catch', 'expensive to keep', whew!

I wish you could have been more subtle here... Nobody is a 'good catch', buddy.

If you find someone who reciprocates your feelings, the question of being expensive doesnt arise. Chances are, one wouldnt let the other bear everything on their own. Isnt that the basic principle of love? Care and share?

Or have i lost it and become too old already?

Its nothin to do with size n looks, it sure does with the money. Also I believe communication problem is there, usually u find the asians with good accent, I'm talkin as in majorities n minority. Also these white chicks are a bit expensive to keep. well but it is common. I had one before, infact i believe they are easier catch... well guys dont get me wrong here, but I'm tellin you this from my experience.

From what I've seen it's usually because of money...

Please specify which Asian group you are talking about, Oriental, Sub-continent or Arab.

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