....they are a shameless, ruthless moneymilling company who bleeds the European Union dry. They go there, where they get all the millions of subsidies to set up business and once the retention period is over, they boot out the employees and go to the next country, sucking up more millions of subsidies. They are bloody grasshoppers!
Btw then I got my 5800XM, i was dissapointed 'cos the make is REALLLY BAD! The fone looks like a toy made of plastic! You know how to remove the sim card? Thats lame! You need to shove the stylus in the back of the cell and push it out of the side, not even a push-click mechanism.
Camera sucks, even in DAY LIGHT!
For an iPhone you just need soft touches...But for the 5800 x'PRESS'music...most of the things need double taps
Why do you think Nokia came with such a small price??
And it was not for beating iPhone or anything. If you still think so, 5800XM had a lot of time after iPhone and its not all that great compared to it also
You guys are all wrong. Nokia PRIMARILY released the 5800 not to compete with the iPhone but to see how the people will accept their touchscreen-based unit. They're preparing the people to what to expect to their next flagship phone, the Nokia N97.
Without the iPhone those other "iPhone-wannabes" including the 5800 will not even exist.
It's unfair for Apple Inc for their iPhone be compared to a cheaper and plastic phone like the 5800. It's like comparing an Hummer H3 to an old-school Volkswagen Beetle or a 17" Macbook Pro Aluminum to an MSI Wind U100.
You might say, the iPhone still lacks the basic functions we want to a phone? Well, i suggest you surf the net more often. Iphone fw3.0 will be released this coming June and the basic functions like landscape typing, copy/paste, sending of MMS, file transfer via Bluetooth will now be covered.
Until the other phone manufacturers comes up with a better interface and software, iPhone will never be dethroned.
The iphone is bigger in size and uneasy for one hand grip. Nokia 5800 is designed to fit well into your hands. Being smaller in width, its easy to operate single handedly.
Iphone size: 115.5 X 62.1 X 12.3 mm
Nokia 5800 size: 111 X 51.7 X 15.5 mm
2) Weight
Iphone is much bulkier than Nokia 5800. Nokia 5800 is 25g lighter than Iphone in weight.
Iphone: 133g
Nokia 5800: 109g
3) Screen Resolution
The Iphone has 3.5” screen while Nokia 5800 has 3.2” but the resolution of 5800 is far more superior to Iphone.
Resolution:
Iphone: 480 by 320
Nokia 5800: 640 by 360
4) Storage
Iphone comes with two options- 8GB & 16GB internal memory. Nokia has a more flexible option to offer 8GB with micro SD card which is expandable upto 16GB. Nokia owners can expand memory size according to needs which the Iphone guys can’t do.
5) Input Methods
Iphone: Finger only.
Nokia 5800: Finger, stylus, plectrum, handwriting recognition.
6) Features
Apple Iphone has lots of missing features like cut and paste function, saving email attachments, no support for third party headphones, ringtones, applications, many software bugs and other technical glitches. Nokia 5800 Tube has no such issues plus many more amazing features included.
7) Colors
Iphone: Black for 8 & 16 GB, White for 16 GB only.
Nokia 5800: Red, Blue and Black.
8 ) Battery
Nokia 5800 provides upto 35 hrs of music playing time against Apple Iphone which claims just 24 hrs. Overall battery power (talktime/standby) is also about 30% more in Nokia 5800. What more, 5800 has a removable battery which Iphone lacks.
Iphone: 5 hrs talk-time, 300 hrs standby, not removable.
Nokia 5800: 8.8 hrs talk-time, 406 hrs standby, removable battery.
9) Camera
Iphone: 2 MP, no flash, no zoom, no additional camera.
Nokia 5800: 3.2 MP, Flash, 3x digital zoom with Carl Zeiss lens. A second camera in front is available for video calling/conferencing.
10) Video Calling
Iphone: No Video calling possible in Iphone.
Nokia 5800: Video calling is possible.
11) Video Recording
IPhone: No option for video recording.
Nokia 5800: Video recording is included.
12) Music Service
Iphone: Paid service with Apple Itunes Store. You pay and download music to your Iphone.
Nokia 5800: “Comes with music” service is bundled with Nokia 5800 Xpressmusic phone by which you can download as much music as you want for 1 year- FREE!!
13) Voice Dialing
Iphone: Not Available
Nokia 5800: Available
14) Voice Recording
IPhone: Not Available
Nokia 5800: Available
15) Web Browser
Iphone: Webkit based Safari browser, no flash available.
Nokia 5800: Webkit based browser, supports flash lite.
16) FM Radio
Iphone: Not Available
Nokia 5800: Available
17) Bluetooth
Iphone: Bluetooth is available for just handsfree, no file sharing possible.
Nokia 5800: Bluetooth available for handsfree and file sharing is possible. Better audio quality on bluetooth in 5800 with A2DP technology which Iphone lacks.
18) Messaging
Iphone: It does not support message forwarding, multiple SMS deletion, sending SMS to multiple recipients and multimedia messages (MMS).
Nokia 5800: All the above is possible plus it has MMS ver 1.3, message size upto 600kb, and automatic resizing of Images for MMS.
19) Price
Nokia 5800 is hopefully unlocked (without any contract) and will sell much cheaper for just QAR 1595
Unlocked Apple Iphones sells for around $800 on Ebay.
In other parts of the world, the 8GB unsubsidized Iphone model costs 499 euros ($700) in Italy, 350 pounds ($620) in UK, $700 in India. Nokia 5800 Xpressmusic is expected to sell around the world for about $400 or below.
20) Experience
Nokia: Ages of experience, hundreds of success stories and dozens of smart handsets in current portfolio. Nokia has about 40% market share with the No.1 spot with no close competitors. Certainly the king when it comes to brand value, service and experience.
Apple: First phone ever launched by Apple is Iphone, no prior experience in the telecom market. It’s a novice in the market with a very less market share despite having millions of Iphone sold.
I bet Nokia 5800 is a hard competitor of iPhone...5800 has a Carl Zeiss 3.2 Mp camera with flash and is available at a pretty gud price. 5800 has a good speaker output as well....Guys wait for the Nokia N97. I guess thats gonna take away all the Apple customers to Nokia...Check it out...
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n97-2615.php
"Only that in U which !$ ME can hear Wot I am sayin...."
Thakur yes its true u cant tranfer any single file via bluetooth..its just for the handset..for transferring music,pic..etc..you have to use itunes or winscp..and you have to be professional todo so.. its better if you go for 5800..buh if you wana show off...go for iphone :P
iphone has the best user interface ever in a mobile....and nokia is famous for its hanging and laging s60 os....and in 5800 has almost the same operating system with some graphical changes..nothing else...
the touch screen of iphone and 5800 cant b compared...they r miles apart....just try using both of them..n u will feel the differnce...
hardware wise nokia is better but software wise..both cant b compared....
C'mon guys !!!!!!!!!!! answer my question. I am also double minded to have an iphone or 5800 like the author. But it all depends on this one issue, as i am a music lover & xchange new songs very often from my friends
Hi Guys,, I heard that the major drawback of iphone is that the user cannot transfer files like misic, photos, videos from iphone to other mobiles via bluetooth.Is it correct??
See, you said it yourself now. Nokia knew it about the sound quality of Iphone thats why they came up with this 5800 to beat up the iphone with its xpressmusic advantage plus the other above said features. :D
plus, nokia 5800 is cheaper price for as low as 1,450 QR in Doha. Even if it's a new model for XpressMusic Series. I haven't and no interest on iphone about it's features and price but i guess it's expensive. Where will you go then? the expensive or cheaper but the same features of the phone.
iphone is much better than the nokia 5800..buh the worse thing abt iphone ix its sound..aagggrrrrhh it sux..its very very low...i jux sold ma iphone because of its sound..the rest things are jux rocking... :)
That's why Nokia came up with Nokia 5800 to get competition with the Iphone. Put same specs like the touchscreen, mp3 player, wifi, 3g, etc... we all know nokia is at least one of the most top mobile makers in the world and bringing a LOT of new phones every time.
2G and 3G and never had any problem with any of them.
am very much happy about it and its application you got plenty its just upto your choice you want to install them or not but they are there in Itune always.
At times it'd just hang which was just infuriating. Then my husband got me the nokia express 5800. & i'm so relieved. It has all the +ves of the iphone without the -ves of the iphone.
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It's just a phone - get over it!
i think n5800 is better.
simple phone for simple people!!
haha
....they are a shameless, ruthless moneymilling company who bleeds the European Union dry. They go there, where they get all the millions of subsidies to set up business and once the retention period is over, they boot out the employees and go to the next country, sucking up more millions of subsidies. They are bloody grasshoppers!
.
.let me post this again:
.5800 is just an iphone's second rate, trying hard, copy cat:)
well, not evn a second rate.
.
.that's all......
.
Love my Iphone too ..... i thought I wont go for Mac ..a quote saying "When u go MAC u cant go BACK" ....what a true statement in my life .....
Its a sign my friend! From greater forces. It means go get an iPhone :)
damn my 5800 slipped off my hands in CC... went down the escalator and fell down.. not much but still screwed up shit
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I'm still putting my bet over the iPhone. You guys want to know what makes the iPhone tick? It simply works.
no problemo!
MUCH BETTER.. I BOUGHT MY IPHONE LAST YEAR AND GOT SICK OF IT AFTER A FEW WEEKS. SETTINGS ARE LIMITED UNLIKE NOKIA. MORE FEATURES.
IM CURRENTLY INTERESTED ON THE NEW NOKIA 5800 ... =)
@ DJchilli
thanks for the video link for iPhone software 3.0 presentation.. been lookin for that..
i will buy anything steve jobs tells me to buy...it may sound stupid but it's working like a dream.
u cannot compare any nokia to iPhone.. just say u can't buy one..
My phone makes phone calls :o)
You gotta check out iPhone OS 3.0. It's got 100 new features. Things like copy paste, bluetooth transfer, MMS etc.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/
Maybe this might change your mind.
Btw then I got my 5800XM, i was dissapointed 'cos the make is REALLLY BAD! The fone looks like a toy made of plastic! You know how to remove the sim card? Thats lame! You need to shove the stylus in the back of the cell and push it out of the side, not even a push-click mechanism.
Camera sucks, even in DAY LIGHT!
For an iPhone you just need soft touches...But for the 5800 x'PRESS'music...most of the things need double taps
Why do you think Nokia came with such a small price??
And it was not for beating iPhone or anything. If you still think so, 5800XM had a lot of time after iPhone and its not all that great compared to it also
Exactly. 5800 was just a prototype set.
And yea, the new iPhone Fw 3.0 fills up all the holes in the mobile.
The touch on the iPhone is more better than 5800XM.
And Cmon, the iPhonez 2MP camera looks MUCH MUCH better than the 5800XM's 3.2MP.
iPhone got lots of apps.
P.S. I won a XPERIA X1, 5800XM and an iPhone...
You guys are all wrong. Nokia PRIMARILY released the 5800 not to compete with the iPhone but to see how the people will accept their touchscreen-based unit. They're preparing the people to what to expect to their next flagship phone, the Nokia N97.
Without the iPhone those other "iPhone-wannabes" including the 5800 will not even exist.
It's unfair for Apple Inc for their iPhone be compared to a cheaper and plastic phone like the 5800. It's like comparing an Hummer H3 to an old-school Volkswagen Beetle or a 17" Macbook Pro Aluminum to an MSI Wind U100.
You might say, the iPhone still lacks the basic functions we want to a phone? Well, i suggest you surf the net more often. Iphone fw3.0 will be released this coming June and the basic functions like landscape typing, copy/paste, sending of MMS, file transfer via Bluetooth will now be covered.
Until the other phone manufacturers comes up with a better interface and software, iPhone will never be dethroned.
whatever u say buddy..
have u read about the new software Firmware 3.0 ..?!
and what it is going to have..?!
i love my new n5800...
iphone sux man i have both i like d 5800 bttr
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iphone is much better..
just check the app store for iPhone applications.. there r more than 1500 applications there for iPhone..
they cost money..
i found them cracked in this website..
www.appulo.us
more than 1500 cracked application..
recorder..
blutooth (send, receive anything)..
voice dial, voice commands even voice typin..
MMS, GPRS, WAP access..
forward SMS, multiple selection & anything that anyphone cad do with SMS & MMS..
i can make video calls with my iPhone 3G..
i have Internet Radio using WiFi or a 3G Sim card from Mobile Broadband (Amazing Application)..
..
all the new Nokias are made in China that's why they are so cheep..
..
after all..
my brother has the 5800.. i've used it..
iPhone is the best cellphone i've ever used..
i have more than 30 programs/games that i use everyday..
emails never been better..
best web browser..
i learned how to play Guitar on the iPhone..
& please please check this game
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it's addictive , lol..
1) Size
The iphone is bigger in size and uneasy for one hand grip. Nokia 5800 is designed to fit well into your hands. Being smaller in width, its easy to operate single handedly.
Iphone size: 115.5 X 62.1 X 12.3 mm
Nokia 5800 size: 111 X 51.7 X 15.5 mm
2) Weight
Iphone is much bulkier than Nokia 5800. Nokia 5800 is 25g lighter than Iphone in weight.
Iphone: 133g
Nokia 5800: 109g
3) Screen Resolution
The Iphone has 3.5” screen while Nokia 5800 has 3.2” but the resolution of 5800 is far more superior to Iphone.
Resolution:
Iphone: 480 by 320
Nokia 5800: 640 by 360
4) Storage
Iphone comes with two options- 8GB & 16GB internal memory. Nokia has a more flexible option to offer 8GB with micro SD card which is expandable upto 16GB. Nokia owners can expand memory size according to needs which the Iphone guys can’t do.
5) Input Methods
Iphone: Finger only.
Nokia 5800: Finger, stylus, plectrum, handwriting recognition.
6) Features
Apple Iphone has lots of missing features like cut and paste function, saving email attachments, no support for third party headphones, ringtones, applications, many software bugs and other technical glitches. Nokia 5800 Tube has no such issues plus many more amazing features included.
7) Colors
Iphone: Black for 8 & 16 GB, White for 16 GB only.
Nokia 5800: Red, Blue and Black.
8 ) Battery
Nokia 5800 provides upto 35 hrs of music playing time against Apple Iphone which claims just 24 hrs. Overall battery power (talktime/standby) is also about 30% more in Nokia 5800. What more, 5800 has a removable battery which Iphone lacks.
Iphone: 5 hrs talk-time, 300 hrs standby, not removable.
Nokia 5800: 8.8 hrs talk-time, 406 hrs standby, removable battery.
9) Camera
Iphone: 2 MP, no flash, no zoom, no additional camera.
Nokia 5800: 3.2 MP, Flash, 3x digital zoom with Carl Zeiss lens. A second camera in front is available for video calling/conferencing.
10) Video Calling
Iphone: No Video calling possible in Iphone.
Nokia 5800: Video calling is possible.
11) Video Recording
IPhone: No option for video recording.
Nokia 5800: Video recording is included.
12) Music Service
Iphone: Paid service with Apple Itunes Store. You pay and download music to your Iphone.
Nokia 5800: “Comes with music” service is bundled with Nokia 5800 Xpressmusic phone by which you can download as much music as you want for 1 year- FREE!!
13) Voice Dialing
Iphone: Not Available
Nokia 5800: Available
14) Voice Recording
IPhone: Not Available
Nokia 5800: Available
15) Web Browser
Iphone: Webkit based Safari browser, no flash available.
Nokia 5800: Webkit based browser, supports flash lite.
16) FM Radio
Iphone: Not Available
Nokia 5800: Available
17) Bluetooth
Iphone: Bluetooth is available for just handsfree, no file sharing possible.
Nokia 5800: Bluetooth available for handsfree and file sharing is possible. Better audio quality on bluetooth in 5800 with A2DP technology which Iphone lacks.
18) Messaging
Iphone: It does not support message forwarding, multiple SMS deletion, sending SMS to multiple recipients and multimedia messages (MMS).
Nokia 5800: All the above is possible plus it has MMS ver 1.3, message size upto 600kb, and automatic resizing of Images for MMS.
19) Price
Nokia 5800 is hopefully unlocked (without any contract) and will sell much cheaper for just QAR 1595
Unlocked Apple Iphones sells for around $800 on Ebay.
In other parts of the world, the 8GB unsubsidized Iphone model costs 499 euros ($700) in Italy, 350 pounds ($620) in UK, $700 in India. Nokia 5800 Xpressmusic is expected to sell around the world for about $400 or below.
20) Experience
Nokia: Ages of experience, hundreds of success stories and dozens of smart handsets in current portfolio. Nokia has about 40% market share with the No.1 spot with no close competitors. Certainly the king when it comes to brand value, service and experience.
Apple: First phone ever launched by Apple is Iphone, no prior experience in the telecom market. It’s a novice in the market with a very less market share despite having millions of Iphone sold.
Nokia builds the most solid phones in the owrld but there interface has never been good
i have both...
and truthly this is the third time nokia 5800 went to a service shop in 2 months..
whereas iphone is wroking properly from 5 months so ihpone is better i guess :)
yah i cant wait for it to come out I orderd one from America the day it will come
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I bet Nokia 5800 is a hard competitor of iPhone...5800 has a Carl Zeiss 3.2 Mp camera with flash and is available at a pretty gud price. 5800 has a good speaker output as well....Guys wait for the Nokia N97. I guess thats gonna take away all the Apple customers to Nokia...Check it out...
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n97-2615.php
"Only that in U which !$ ME can hear Wot I am sayin...."
hi guys I have both phones Tube and 3g16GB and really if u see it with all details Tube is the iPhone Killer
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u will get bored of the nokia in like 10 days ... iphone stays great & enjoyable for at least 3 months..
Thakur yes its true u cant tranfer any single file via bluetooth..its just for the handset..for transferring music,pic..etc..you have to use itunes or winscp..and you have to be professional todo so.. its better if you go for 5800..buh if you wana show off...go for iphone :P
iphone has the best user interface ever in a mobile....and nokia is famous for its hanging and laging s60 os....and in 5800 has almost the same operating system with some graphical changes..nothing else...
the touch screen of iphone and 5800 cant b compared...they r miles apart....just try using both of them..n u will feel the differnce...
hardware wise nokia is better but software wise..both cant b compared....
C'mon guys !!!!!!!!!!! answer my question. I am also double minded to have an iphone or 5800 like the author. But it all depends on this one issue, as i am a music lover & xchange new songs very often from my friends
Hi Guys,, I heard that the major drawback of iphone is that the user cannot transfer files like misic, photos, videos from iphone to other mobiles via bluetooth.Is it correct??
See, you said it yourself now. Nokia knew it about the sound quality of Iphone thats why they came up with this 5800 to beat up the iphone with its xpressmusic advantage plus the other above said features. :D
plus, nokia 5800 is cheaper price for as low as 1,450 QR in Doha. Even if it's a new model for XpressMusic Series. I haven't and no interest on iphone about it's features and price but i guess it's expensive. Where will you go then? the expensive or cheaper but the same features of the phone.
iphone is much better than the nokia 5800..buh the worse thing abt iphone ix its sound..aagggrrrrhh it sux..its very very low...i jux sold ma iphone because of its sound..the rest things are jux rocking... :)
That's why Nokia came up with Nokia 5800 to get competition with the Iphone. Put same specs like the touchscreen, mp3 player, wifi, 3g, etc... we all know nokia is at least one of the most top mobile makers in the world and bringing a LOT of new phones every time.
if u use iphone once ull never regret and never use another phone
go for iphone 3g
its has no troubles
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2G and 3G and never had any problem with any of them.
am very much happy about it and its application you got plenty its just upto your choice you want to install them or not but they are there in Itune always.
I used the iphone & it gave me so much trouble.
At times it'd just hang which was just infuriating. Then my husband got me the nokia express 5800. & i'm so relieved. It has all the +ves of the iphone without the -ves of the iphone.
Hands down nokia.
THE HARDER THE BETTER
the price arround half of iphone 3g 16 gb
i used iphone its a good phone
did not know much about nokia xpress music 5800
maybe it same if u want to compare bmw and toyota..
has nokia 5800 will have it in next 10years
yea....even i think!!....even compared to price nokia cheaper!!..by the way do u kno the price of Nokia 5800??
I feel nokia is better than IPHONE