So some want to smash the state, tax the church and spare the childern.
However all of you seems to agree with the idea of the separation of the church and state which is intersting, because it's in the Middle East where many oppose securalism and the notion of the church and state being separate, additionaly they see this idea is a threat to Islam and those who try to imply this concept are brainwashed by the west and ofcourse the bad guys: America