firstly u habitually provide false information and that was the reason for my reply so lets take it point by point for your sake...
you say, "your considering the Mughals as an invasion and occupation of the country rather than acknowledging it as a part of Indian history borne of our own soil belies your saffron intent..."
saffron intent..I'm Christian i point out forced conversions by missionaries too....wish u would admit of the wrongdoings by ur Islamic predecessors.
you say,"Why bring up the idea that Indians were forcibly converted to Islam? How is that relevant to this discussion? What bearing does it have on casteism in current Indian society...
this is in reply to ur statement that many Muslims and Christians were converts from some of the lower castes and they used to be perceived as lower caste.....ur statement was erroneous just pointed it out read my post on this subject again....
you say,"And lets come to the fact itself... what you tout as fact... these forced conversions... the fantastic scale of it is the creation of a political entity with a clear communal agenda... Several studies on this matter are the subject to severe debate...
.....There is no agenda my friend and there is no severe debate on this subject dont know where u r gettin ur information from....
the history of what the Mughal rulers did has been well documented....dude why r u hesitant to admit that there were atrocities carried out by islamic rulers of the past...why they did this is what u should be investigating....r u under the impression that all islamic followers thruout the world have converted of their own free will.....grow up accept the fact that islam has also spread thru forced conversions of occupied lands....u get touchy when something wrong regarding islam turns up however true it may be and these are events that occurred in ur own backyard.....maybe u should stop being so partial and read history with an open mind.
u say,"The bottomline is... this discussion is not of relevance today except for academic interests... current generations ought not to bear the burden of the wrong doing of their earlier ancestors...
....Here again u contradict whatever u said before, did u not say "Several studies on this matter are the subject to severe debate..." but now u say current generations ought not to bear the burden of the wrong doing of their earlier ancestors.....why should they if nothing wrong was ever done....or does it mean u r now convinced that history was right.
heck im gettin bored with u vers....ur narrow mindedness of some topics is not a sign of ur astuteness but rather stubbornness.
firstly u habitually provide false information and that was the reason for my reply so lets take it point by point for your sake...
you say, "your considering the Mughals as an invasion and occupation of the country rather than acknowledging it as a part of Indian history borne of our own soil belies your saffron intent..."
saffron intent..I'm Christian i point out forced conversions by missionaries too....wish u would admit of the wrongdoings by ur Islamic predecessors.
you say,"Why bring up the idea that Indians were forcibly converted to Islam? How is that relevant to this discussion? What bearing does it have on casteism in current Indian society...
this is in reply to ur statement that many Muslims and Christians were converts from some of the lower castes and they used to be perceived as lower caste.....ur statement was erroneous just pointed it out read my post on this subject again....
you say,"And lets come to the fact itself... what you tout as fact... these forced conversions... the fantastic scale of it is the creation of a political entity with a clear communal agenda... Several studies on this matter are the subject to severe debate...
.....There is no agenda my friend and there is no severe debate on this subject dont know where u r gettin ur information from....
the history of what the Mughal rulers did has been well documented....dude why r u hesitant to admit that there were atrocities carried out by islamic rulers of the past...why they did this is what u should be investigating....r u under the impression that all islamic followers thruout the world have converted of their own free will.....grow up accept the fact that islam has also spread thru forced conversions of occupied lands....u get touchy when something wrong regarding islam turns up however true it may be and these are events that occurred in ur own backyard.....maybe u should stop being so partial and read history with an open mind.
u say,"The bottomline is... this discussion is not of relevance today except for academic interests... current generations ought not to bear the burden of the wrong doing of their earlier ancestors...
....Here again u contradict whatever u said before, did u not say "Several studies on this matter are the subject to severe debate..." but now u say current generations ought not to bear the burden of the wrong doing of their earlier ancestors.....why should they if nothing wrong was ever done....or does it mean u r now convinced that history was right.
heck im gettin bored with u vers....ur narrow mindedness of some topics is not a sign of ur astuteness but rather stubbornness.