Is it wrong to oppose gay marriage ?

Are you purposely misreading my posts Lafta?

No I'm not ok with a mother and son having sex, because chances are one of them is abusing the other.

And 16 IS the age of consent. So in the eyes of the law they are adults. A 10 year old cannot legally give consent, so if a 30 year old was having sex with a 10 year old, that would be abuse.

If my husband was gay than I would divorce him and allow him to be with a man, and I would find myself a straight man. But I would still be friends with my husband and support him in his lifestyle, and allow him to take care of our son.

If my daughter was a lesbian and married to a man I'd tell her to stop being foolish and divorce the poor guy and be with her girlfriend.

So Lafta, what is the solution? If it's a disease do we shoot them? Do you propose an Aparthaid against gays? Because let me tell you that no country/society is exempted from this -so called- disease.

As expected, the discussion becomes ridiculous

some are accepting gay marriage and some will not accept!!

A question for you Miss Mimi if you are married and you discovered that your husband is a gay and have a relationship with a man in the comapany he is working in, do you accept this or no?

Another question if you had a daughter who is married and you know her husband is a very nice guy and that your daughter is having a relationship with a girl in her office (Lesibian) do you accept this?

If your answer is no please explain why.

The big word here is CONSENT. In very very few cases is incest consensual. It is normally abuse.

And animals are incapable of consent.

16 year olds are capable of consent however, and 16 is the age of consent in most Western countries. I could care less if a couple of 16 year olds have sex, I just hope they are smart enough to use protection.

Lafta, do you have any idea about the rate of birth defects due to marriage between cousins? Guess where is this commonly practised?

There is no such thing as western incest marriages Lafta. Incest is not legal.

Lafta, ignorance is humanity's worst disease. Thank God there is a medicine, as long as the patient is willing to use it.

Sexuality in all its forms, whether heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual is a private matter between consenting adults. The state or the public has no business in what goes on in the bedroom!

Gays and lesbians deserve the right and the freedom to be treated equally in all societies. Homophones need to get a life. Full Stop!

Loads of gay men and women have children tahsinmim. Gay men have sex with women, have a child. Lesbian women have sex with men have a child. Gay men use a surrogate, Lesbian women use sperm donors. They adopt.

Agreed Spock.

"I conclude from the above that, in the west, people are free to marry their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons, daughters, monkeys, pigs, lamas, mules...etc"

No, people in the West aren't free do to those things, as A) you cannot marry someone who cannot consent to marriage and B) Incest is illegal due to problems with birth defects and that it's usually non-consensual.

I don't care who marries who as long as they can consent of their own free will, and are at the age of consent.

In short: morality (invented by religious scholars) took all the fun away!

"Gay/lesbian...how will the generation keep moving between 2 same sex...:)..one partner dies then another partner dies, the end...who is continuing then...No one"

Umm....the 6 billion or so straight people in the world? Homosexuality has been around since the dawn of time and we still seem to be breeding like rabbits.

And being gay doesn't mean you can't have kids.

The earliest marriage used to be ‘group marriage’. The union was basically between groups of men and women, and there exists shared sexual relations. The group marriage allowed polyandry, and this existed in Ceylon, India, and Tibet many years ago.

Shouldn't it be up to the Church to decide if they want to perform gay marriages Brit?

Living in the years before 2.350 BC was even more fun:

- The usual practice was that the men in a certain tribe or horde had access to the women they like. When children are born, they belonged to the whole community. This is associated with the perception that humans want sexual variety. However, things have changed when sexual MORALITY was developed and has since influenced the social life of the people.

Morality was developed to CONTROL people. There you are.

SA/Tash : You approach the issue of homosexuality from a (pathological) or (disease state) point of view. This is wrong! The fact that a heterosexual couple is biologically infertile or have voluntarily decided not to bear children does not make their union unnatural or pathological. Homophobia is a disease; homosexuality is not. Please listen to the experts and use some common sense.

I don't think its damaging the society at all. I'd rather live now than 50 years ago.

You are sidetracking the post.

The issue here was free speech and his opposition against Gay marriages being performed in Church.

Nature is man for woman and vice versa, what is this personal freedome if it not in line with nature?

Can I drive my car in the middle of street with two lanes not allowing cars to pass me?

Unfortunately some people will accept this blindly and I really asked one french guy if you discovered brother is gay will you help him to avoid the gay behavior he said no!!

A question to those guys who keeps bringing gay topics and forum in QL what is your point in bringing it?

Do you want to spread the gay culture?

If gay people or behavior are not accepted in a certain community why do you want it be accepted in this certain community.

I personally started to feel that those guys who bring this gay topics are actually gay, and I repeat this is only my personal opinion.

Gay marriage is NOTHING NEW!

Studies revealed that relationships between the same sexes have enjoyed freedom, especially in greater parts of Egypt and Mesopotamia. There was even a tomb for a gay couple which means that the kingdom recognized such union. However, such practice was more common in Mesopotamia. The Code of Hammurabi did not restrict same-sex marriage although marriages were well-regulated during such time.

There were cited examples of gay marriages during the classical antiquity. Even Plato was able to describe homosexual attractions in his work entitled ‘Symposium’. In Greek artworks, same-sex interactions were also depicted with equal status as men-women relationships. However, not all states or countries approved of such relationships or rituals.

It is said that gay marriage was not about gender, and was more of character excellence, beauty, and love. Recorded history of gay marriage has also revealed that homosexual marriages had a cultural and religious basis. In most cultures, homosexual relationships were mostly covert. In the social customs of the Romans, marriage between men was common and this existed even in the high society. During that time, women had limited freedom; hence, same-sex unions among females were rare.

tahsinmim said i think ...

I think the disease should be avoided before it gets spread more :)..that is all he was doing :)..gay thing is like swine flu :)

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Your comment is just disgusting.

Yes, by people I mean gays and lesbians as well.

The West does it because everyone has the right to personal freedom, and we are a secular society. People shouldn't have to marry if they don't want it, and if they want to they should be allowed.

I saw the interview and he used the word in the right context. Sadly, the PC brigade didn't agree.

I saw the interview and he used the word in the right context. Sadly, the PC brigade didn't agree.

He did nothing wrong, unless that opinion affected the way he conducted business or any recruitment issues.

You really can’t safe someone from something they were born with.

Sebastian Vettel used the phrase "we fukced it up" at the victory ceremony in Abu Dhabi. The next day the hypcrite morons had it all over the press. What if the team really fukced something up? Why don't say it as it is? What is it all about this not-saying-the-truth? Does it make you a better human if you say "it was a perturbing situation"?

Good judge, at least one person has common sense in Britain!

How is he saving his employees from being gay? All he said was that gay marriage was taking equality too far.

Because he could be creating a negative environment with his co-workers. Rule of thumb is not to really express any personal opinions at work, especially controversial ones.

What makes expressing a personal opinion at work any different ?

The judge ruled correctly, he's allowed to voice his opinion on the matter, and as long as he wasn't representing his company at the time, than he had every right to express his opinion.

However if he expressed that opinion at work, he should have been fired.

Shouldn't be punished for voicing his opinion after all that's what a free society stands for ! Justice!

Your most welcome...I do like playing referee every now and then! Besides it's a pity to see a perfectly good post going "oooops"

Thank you FathimaH.

My thread was more to do with free sppeech and the right of expression.

we are all human being who has the right to live in this so called earth... to each his own preference... and i agree with MarcoNandoz - just speak for yourself Frenchies and do not drag other into your opinion... peace.

You guys are trespassing into forbidden territories...didn't Brit tell ya all to keep religion away from this topic? Now,before this thread gets whacked, please kiss and make up...or at least just agree to disagree!

Frenchies: Speak for your self!

I did because hypocrits care more about other peoples private lives than serious matters.

Hypocrits are what's wrong with this world

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Oh so if I oppose my views on you wearing burqa or on someones religious practices I am being an asshole

And when someone like you decides to spread hatered , it is normal?

You carr more about gay marriage than kids dying in africa? You are sick

@frenchies, I guess Hitler will be happy to hire someone like you!

And no tah I am not opposed to it,it is none of my business

Frenchies how's the KKK breathern going with you,feeling at home?

@tah I know,but usually in the UK this homophobic always turns out bad.

Gays were beaten the hell out of them in Scotland.

As strom said it is fine unless people decide to join up and start giving "moral" lessons with a baseball bat

@frenchies I'd suggest to take the nearest crowbar and pull yourself out of your fat behind!

As long as it is not harming anyone why oppose?!

People got to get a life...

there's a documentary film about homophobic in Uganda. watch it!

Everything is getting so censored that you can't say anything on Social Media these days. I support anyone's right to say/do whatever the hell they like.

I HATE THIS TOPIC. Its tooo yackie to even think about it.

lol.. "Everything" is monitored in London...

Is it wrong to oppose gay marriage ?

No it's not. Everybody is free to express their opinion and are entitled to it.

how come personal opinions , are dragged in courts .... judge ruled it rightly.

social engines like Facebook , expresses opinion of an individual , unless and until , he instigate and invite others to join his cause , which can be termed as violations and other charges pressed on him.

I think that teh judge ruled correctly. He was voicing his opinion in private. The law should not legislate for what we can believe or say.

what do you think?

Of course each person is entitled to his/her opinion, and the man did nothing wrong in voicing his own view on his private Facebook. Freedom of speach goes both ways after all,and he was not representing his company when he posted what he did on FB nor even on duty, hence the company's argument was unjustified. The judge ruled rightly.