Ah, The Magic Kingdom - Again!

adey
By adey

Ever read 'Alice Through the Looking Glass', or Kafks's 'The Trial'?
Can you imagine living in a Surreal Universe.If you want this experience then try Saudi Tour Guides. A bit like the Twilight Zone:

'Prosecutors should immediately drop charges against Shaikh Mikhlif bin Dahham al-Shammari, a human rights activist, and release him, Human Rights Watch said today.
Human Rights Watch has seen a copy of al-Shammari's prison file, which lists "annoying others" as the charge against him. The charge relates to peaceful criticism al-Shammari has made of public officials and therefore appear to violate his freedom of expression, Human Rights Watch said.'

http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2010/07/14/saudi-arabia-charges-against-right...

By adey• 26 Oct 2010 02:18
adey

to avoid :P

By anonymous• 26 Oct 2010 02:07
anonymous

off the topic

when did U turn to 42?

By adey• 26 Oct 2010 02:01
adey

there is a distinction between the two. Ocean will be certain death - self inflicted by your own choice - which is interesting - you would rather kill youiself than live in the land of Mecca and Medina?

By anonymous• 26 Oct 2010 01:49
anonymous

leaders are ruling over the country.

By adey• 26 Oct 2010 01:44
adey

if forced - which one would you choose?

BTW just for clarity's sake again, the US has leaders not rulers.

By anonymous• 26 Oct 2010 01:36
anonymous

i don't like rulers of both countries.

By adey• 26 Oct 2010 01:32
adey

the choices are US or Saudi only

By ex.ex.expat• 26 Oct 2010 01:26
ex.ex.expat

and you probably would too if you weren't Afghani and just looking for something else to complain about and act victimised over.

By anonymous• 26 Oct 2010 01:25
anonymous

adey

i'll preferred Britain of till 90's ;)

By anonymous• 26 Oct 2010 01:23
anonymous

am i reading a script of hollywood movie???

come on mate, be reasonable, and be honest,

do U believe on this script???

By adey• 26 Oct 2010 01:23
adey

You are forced to live in one country for the rest of your life - you can never leave that country ever!

But the only 2 choices you are given are the US and Saudi.

Which one do you choose?

By ex.ex.expat• 26 Oct 2010 01:22
Rating: 2/5
ex.ex.expat

she was convicted of firing on American military personnel. It's pretty clear cut. That comes with a LIFE sentence and she is lucky she didn't get the death penalty imo.

By ex.ex.expat• 26 Oct 2010 01:20
ex.ex.expat

"At the town police station the Americans were directed into a room where, unknown to them, the woman was waiting behind a long yellow curtain. One soldier sat down, laying his M-4 rifle by his foot, next to the curtain. Moments later it twitched back.

The woman was standing there, pointing the officer's gun at his head. A translator lunged at her, but too late. She fired twice, shouting "Get the fuck out of here!" and "Allahu Akbar!" Nobody was hit. As the translator wrestled with the woman, the second soldier drew his pistol and fired, hitting her in the abdomen. She went down, still kicking and shouting that she wanted "to kill Americans". Then she passed out.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/24/aafia-siddiqui-al-qaida

By anonymous• 26 Oct 2010 01:20
anonymous

wow

U said it, a lot of negative intentions.

so wats make it different then "Thoughts"?

By ex.ex.expat• 26 Oct 2010 01:17
ex.ex.expat

I assume someone fired and hit her, just as I would do if a prisoner got a weapon and was firing it. That doesn't make her innocent and all evidence points to the fact that this woman had very bad intentions (and actions) against the US and its military.

By anonymous• 26 Oct 2010 01:14
anonymous

Yeah Yeah

She fired on military personnel at bagram base, and amazingly no one was injured or killed, but the bullet fired back and hit her, Right???

By ex.ex.expat• 26 Oct 2010 01:10
Rating: 3/5
ex.ex.expat

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who is being held for masterminding 9/11. There's a pretty good case against her from what has been made available but who knows? She was charged with shooting at military personnel at Bagram base and has not been charged with terrorist activities. She could be innocent... or she could be guilty of everything she has been convicted of and more. Amnesty International monitored her trial and hasn't filed any objections to my knowledge.

By anonymous• 26 Oct 2010 01:05
anonymous

didn't U heard, "Charity begins at home" ?

By adey• 26 Oct 2010 01:04
adey

Cryspy - I never write blah blah blah. And don't tell me what I can comment on and what I can't.

By anonymous• 26 Oct 2010 01:02
anonymous

and thats the news, i didn't see anyone of U to be interested to write blah blah blah............

By adey• 26 Oct 2010 01:01
adey

25 yrs for a killer is about on par in Canada. btw not a serial killer has to be 3 people to classify as a serial killer - just saying to clarify.

The Pakistani woman's case - well I don't know any details, you didn't post much background info - so I could not contribute anything. I don't know what she did or didn't do - I know she was charged with supporting a terrorist organisation and attempted murder of CIA(?) officials - which you serve long time under US law for.

But as I say I don't know much about the case.

By ex.ex.expat• 26 Oct 2010 00:58
ex.ex.expat

but the American system allows appeals so if she IS innocent then it will probably come out on appeal. The other man has received a sentence in accordance with their laws. Flooding every thread with these links doesn't change what is being discussed in those threads. But then I know that's the game you like to play... bait and switch.

By anonymous• 26 Oct 2010 00:51
anonymous

Indeed, its too bad to know it, but hey this is not the first time, and all of us are well aware of that society.

but

why i don't see the same Qlers, when it comes to a Muslim Lady who got 86 years prison in west???

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/899967

and never saw them when a security commander a serial killer got only 25 years jail

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1394692

why do U want to educate others, and not looking back on ur mess???

i don't mean to offend anyone

By Lion_King• 25 Oct 2010 23:55
Lion_King

Regrettably the law system is imaginary, capricious and flawed...Alas !

By ex.ex.expat• 25 Oct 2010 23:48
ex.ex.expat

and I was the Chief Barrister ;)

By FathimaH• 25 Oct 2010 23:44
Rating: 4/5
FathimaH

there's annoying others and then there's annoying "others" which al-Shammari seems to have done.If indeed this article is completely true then his imprisonment doesn't seem justified. However I would want to hear more of this story. The article is only giving a one sided view of the reason for his arrest. That said it must also be noted that Saudia is very strict about people acting against the rulers and though it may not always seem fair it has its benefit as we know many extremist "Muslims" aka khawarij and even terror groups from both the extreme so called "sunnis" and Shia, are constantly targeting the ruler and his supporters claiming them to be a disbelievers for reasons like having ties with America and other Non Muslim states etc.Thus allowing anyone to speak and act against the king can have terrible consequence and it has in the past too. Ultimately lets hope that justice will prevail..

By anonymous• 25 Oct 2010 23:44
anonymous

I hope they don't make annoying others a crime in Qatar.

I will be put in prison forever :P

By nomerci• 25 Oct 2010 23:14
nomerci

annoying others gets you into jail....hmm, then I wonder, those who annoyed me every time I went shopping in Saudi, the defenders of virtue, why are they running free???

They are MEGA annoying, honest!

By Oryx• 25 Oct 2010 22:58
Oryx

He seems to be a good critical thinker what a shame.

If people could get imprisoned for 'annoying others' then that would get rid of 80% of the traffic on my way to work!

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