Qatar to pay to take Israel to the ICJ
Too bad it won't have much of an affect on this murderous evil nation. I love how people try to justify the fact that they were attacked first when they illegally bordered a Turkish ship on international waters. I wonder what the response would have been if it was Cubans/Iranians who bordered an American ship and did what Israel did? Would it still be only self defense if they kill the Americans who attacked them? Hmm....
Whoever handed Palestine to the Zionists, can give Palestinians a new home.There is a Jewish autonomous "oblast: province" in Russia, perhaps the UK can give a similar plot of land for the Palestinians.
LOL... I was just stating the official stand of all the Arab countries about giving Palestinians their nationality...
I agree with John of Arc on the issue of Palestinians, most Arab governments don't want them to be citizens for various reasons, and those who are given citizenship are a selected few who have served the country in one way or another in past, these days however, it would be even harder for them to get it than it was a few decades ago.
How convenient, give them asylum and nationality in countries other than their own, that way in a few generations they would just forget about that idea called Palestine, and not demand anything back, or any "right of return"...
Israel is so small, they should expand by deporting some Jordanians, Syrians, Lebanese and taking their land... They will then be able to choose any Arab country and get its nationality...
unfaithfulvisitor, do you work for the IOF? you know Israeli Offense Forces... It seems that the boats had WMDs in them just like the HUGE quantities of WMDs they found in Iraq... The people who died on them must be terrorists who deserved to die?
it shows how Israelis run the show in US and UK Genesis. Sadly for many, they dont even understand. Their blinkered vision of the world makes them think that they are superior and correct in all that they do and tell.
Did you hear about the cluster bombs used by American on Yemen a few weeks back............
Since the early 70’s many Palestinians & their families were given the Qatari nationality. Among them were those who served in the army force/ Police force, Doctors & Islamic scholars. None, of those , have abandoned the right to return. All hold close to their heritage , invest in the west bank/gaza & upfront in any Solidarity event about Palestine
poor Helen Thomas...Her agency dropped her as a client and On June 7, 2010, she were made to resign from Hearst Newspapers and entered into retirement. Just for telling Rabbi David Nesenoff outside a white house event that Israelis should get the hell out of Palestine
So much for freedom of speech ;)
Why should Qatar give Palestinians asylum and citizenship?
this contradict with the "right of return" which every Palestinian believes in
Al- Salam family (the owners of al-salam plaza)have been granted the Qatari citizenship for decades now. Yet,most of their investments are in the west bank. So is many other rich Palestinians
As for Darfur, spare me the George Clooney's speech...maybe you should actually followup the news about the Reconciliation meetings been conducted in Doha for the past few months now
Whether you like it or not...this whole situation is a bad bad PR for the current Israeli government ;)
It is truly humbling to see how the righteous Doha regime is "leading the way" on Gaza. This would be so great if it weren't for the fact that the Arabs really don't care about the Palestinians one little bit - something that is really surprising given how fixated they are on this tiny group of people- although they are of course pumped up about it on a weekly basis by the likes of the useless Qaradawi, and thousands like him who dream of seeing the downfall of the West and the rise of their own cause. They care about the 'idea' of them, much more than about THEM. Thus, does Egypt closes its border with Gaza and won't let so much as a mosquito through; thus do Arab countries refuse to give them asylum and citizenship.
Now tell me: could this ICJ be in any way related to the ICC - the same body which charged Sudanese President Bashir for his central role in the genocide - mass slaughter - of how many millions of hopelessly innocent people in Darfur?
Millions of dead Muslims. You'd think somebody, somewhere would be upset about that. Seriously.
But no. Surely it could not be the same Bashir. For that would be double standards - and we know how the Arabs deplore double standards - Israeli double standards especially. After all, the Emir sat down with some fine dinner and Arab hospitality in his palace with Bashir just over a year ago.
I wonder - did he pat him on the back? Shake his hand? Congratulate him? Perhaps - quite probably - they talked about Gaza.
Because everybody 'talks' about little, occupied Gaza as though the future of humanity rests upon this tiny place - that Egypt occupied - WITHOUT A WORD OF PROTEST - from 1948 - 1967.
Then, Israel faces a ship filled with a handful of lefty 'activists' who were camouflaging the Turks - people who'd written their wills before setting sail ("we reach Gaza, or we reach Martyrdom"), on a mission funded by the IHH, an organisation with strong ties to terror. A ship they had already told "we will let you send your cargo, once it has been inspected. Dock in the port and matters will be peacefully sorted out." An offer which was of course declined - as was the aid which, according to Hamas, they didn't WANT if they couldn't get it from the Turks.
What country would put up with this bunch of hoods? If I were Netanhayu, frankly I would have torpedoed it after a number of warnings and been quite clear to make sure the world knew the exact profile of those on board, and their true intentions towards the safety of the people who'd elected me and whose lives I was charged with protecting from daily rocket attacks and suicide bombers.
Because, what this issue really boils down to is a resurgent political movement numbering millions, driven by a kind of Ottoman neo-Imperial fantasy. It aims to take over the world and the best place for that battle to be fought, more than anywhere, is Israel - the symbol of western power and a humiliating affront to the Arabs every time they challenge it.
The leftist activists on board no doubt believe that if only America would lose her power, if only the Western world could just reach out - we'd all be somehow holding hands on grassy floral meadows like true brothers and sisters of humanity and teaching the world to sing the language of PEACE and LOVE.
The others on board, given their backing and pedigree, had less laudable intentions.
For them and their ilk, Sudan doesn't matter. Muslims killing each OTHER in Pakistan don't matter. Israel matters. Israel alone. And so, Darfur, and other atrocities like it, don't even make it onto the radar.
They are inconsequential because it comes down to the showdown at the nexus between the power and glory of the Islamic world in the face of the USA and the Western world.
Gaza, Israel, Palestine, the Arab League - these groups are all irrelevant- they are a kind of collection of metaphors, for want of a better word, for the powerful forces behind the great clash of civilisations that is currently being played out before us.
And perhaps it will be that the future of humanity, in a very real way, does in fact centre around Gaza.
Personally even I do not accept "democratic" Israel's way of doing things. But the fact is, they are surrounded by hostile neighbours.
And when a person(or a nation) is looking at the barrel of a gun pointing at him, his only thought would be to get out of that fight ALIVE, survival at any cost, rules be damned. [excuse my language :)]
As for the govt, The political fatcats of any country do not care about the general population. Netanyahu, Erdogan...all these politicians think about is how to create a "drama", how to pull in the votes so they can stay in power, even at the cost of their citizens lives.
double post
Do you think the current rightist Israeli government want peace?
Forget QL, log on secular Israeli & Israeli peace activitsts (gush shalom) websites and read for yourself
The building of more settlement in occupied territories , Gaza blockade and their refusal to continue peace talks are all signs that they are not keen for peace
I am not denying Israel's right to exist, and I don't support groups like Hamas, or Fatah, that being said, I don't consider the Israeli government as a regime that can be respected and accepted as a part of the international community based purely on its intentional disregard for the law in numerous different cases, and this is not limited to the Arab issue.
Even their own allies are weary of them as they have been using this forged passport technique of theirs for decades, they even reassured the UK when they were first caught that they would not repeat this sort of thing, but did it again. My issue lies with how Israel conducts itself as a nation that is supposed to founded on the principles of democracy, the only country that supports their actions is the USA, which unsurprisingly has the Israeli lobby as the most powerful existing one in Washington.
Their responses to attacks are disproportionate and they openly admit to discrimination towards the palestinians seeking protection from attacks from the settlers that the Israeli gov funds to setup more illegal settlements. Nothing about that country's government shows me that they are trying to resolve this amicably, they are as bad the terrorists groups if not worse as they move under the shadows of legitimate democracies.
aaah this site is driving me nuts....
Ok back to our discussion
The leadership in Gaza has openly declared its intent to "annihilate" Israel, to wipe it off the map. Technically that would be a declaration of "war". And during "war" the basic intention would be to prevent any resources from reaching the enemy.
Unfortunately like always the innocent civilians get caught in between this Tug_of_war.
Whether we like it or not, Israel has the right to exist. Many present countries of the world came to through this kind of struggle. But only Israel's existence is being threatened. And its actions questioned. Why? North Korea blew up S. Korea's sub. Did that provoke a wave of condemnation?
I think once Hamas and others accepts that there is no option but to live side by side in peace with Israel, then the Israelis & Pals can look to a better future.
Is Qatar willfully going back on it's promise not build further settlements?
Ice Maiden Gaza is not a part of Israel, that is the difference.
Gaza is not part of Israel !!!
The view from the other side.
I will ask the same question Ntanyahu asked the world. "what would you do if it happened in your country?"
Would Qatar accept a boat from Bahrain/UAE to dock in any of its harbour and unload supplies WITHOUT inspection?
they will say defending themselves when they are killing 10 years old child by their weapons or hunger
I would rather see Israel brought to the ICJ for the invasion of Gaza in 2008. I think that one would be more revelatory of their tactics and quite possibly result in a verdict of war crimes. More effective, in my opinion.
Mandi
Iran, Sudan, North Korea, Myanmar .... they all have their own rules, brit, including Saudi Arabia.
An American national did get killed. However, you are ofcourse correct. There is one rule for Israel and another for the rest of the world..
Well I do too to an extent, the only difference is the degree of latitude governments are given to be criminals are different, this is true for most nations. I respect the Scandinavian nations though, I believe they make an effort to ensure they protect their citizens rights better than most democracies out there, my only issue with them is their mass immigration programs.
Well, it depends, kbaisi. I consider governments as criminals, too. Maybe that's where we have a different view.
Nobody here said they condone or accept the actions of the pirates, so you are just attaching viewpoints to people without any basis. Please enlighten me on how exactly we would hold accountable criminals acting independently of their own government, and unable to be prosecuted in their homelands or abroad for that matter due to policy considerations? Is this really something I need to elaborate on? It seems to me you are expecting us to measure a nation's standards for respect of international law to that of a bunch of criminals, that is pretty sad if you ask me.
bring-up to the ICJ is the incident about the flotilla thing. They awil not argueabout he blockade, I hope so because it means they have to include Egypt for that!
No, I don't see the difference. Does that mean that you accept what the Somali pirates do? Oh, yeah, they have no government, let them do what they want.
Is that supposed to be a sensible comparison? One is carried out by rogue elements from a lawless nation, the other is supposed to be a democratic nation but using its military to break international laws. You see the difference?
The pirates of Somalia do the same every day. Nobody cares? You are all biased.
I saw the video footage, they weren't firing shots from the helicopter. That's just typical muslim/arab country exaggerations/propaganda, but they did come on board the ship and they were attacked by the people on the ship, BUT, they had no right to be on that ship as it was on international waters, and their response was disproportionate to the force use. Funnily the Israeli footage does not show the part when they started firing into the crowd, and ends after they were being attacked.
otherwise?
Almost all the witnesses onboard the marmara have told that israel armed forces were shooting from the helicopter.
This shows that Israel is a insecure nation. Till Now India Hasen't commented on the Killings made by israel and USA Policy is in favour of Israel...
Almost all the witnesses onboard the marmara have told that israel armed forces were shooting from the helicopter.
This shows that Israel is a insecure nation. Till Now India Hasen't commented on the Killings made by israel and USA Policy is in favour of Israel...
sorry for the late comment!
http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/qatar/5539-qatar-to-pay-for-taking-israel-to-icj.html
where's the link?
Here is the article from the peninsula if anyone wants to read it.
DOHA: Qatar has put itself solidly behind fellow Arab states that have decided to take Israel to the International Court of Justice for killing nine activists in a raid on Gaza-bound aid ships on Monday, and said it would meet all the expenses to be incurred on the legal proceedings.
Qatar has also said it would fund a worldwide media campaign to expose Israel, its blockade of the Gaza Strip and the aggression it has been perpetrating in the territory.
The Secretary-General of the Arab League, Amr Moussa, told local Arabic dailies that Qatar’s Prime Minister and Foreign Minister, H E Sheikh Hamad bin Jassem bin Jabor Al Thani, has assured the League of the country’s moral and financial support on the above issues.
It was at Qatar’s behest that foreign ministers of Arab League member countries met in Cairo on Wednesday and Thursday to discuss the Israeli raid and its Gaza blockade.
“We heartily appreciate Qatar’s commitment to meeting the expenses of taking Israel to court for the crime (the flotilla attack) and launching a global media campaign to expose the Israeli blockade of and aggression in Gaza,” Moussa was quoted as saying.
Qatar is known for its heroic and humanitarian role in supporting the cause of the people of Gaza, the Arab League Secretary-General said. “This Cairo meeting was also convened by Doha.”
The Arab foreign ministers’ meeting focussed on ways to respond to the flotilla raid by Tel Aviv and its continued blockade of Gaza, its aggression in the Strip, and on how to remove the blockade, said Moussa.
The dailies said the Qatari Premier assured the League of financial help in filing a lawsuit against Israel and launching a global media campaign. The aim of the campaign would be to expose Israeli blockade and aggression.
The foreign ministers of Arab countries have decided in the Cairo meeting to eventually break the Israeli blockade of Gaza through various means.
Well there isn't much to say about it just that Qatar has already declared that they would cover legal proceedings to take Israel to the ICJ. So I just added my opinion on what would happen.
I did. Yes they don't match. I just commented on Israel & ICJ
not surprised! Lol!
doesn't match! Am I missing something?
They should have been tried in ICJ by now for the December 2008 attack.