Another MONSTER!!!! :( :( :(

ROFLMAO

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

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How can a mother do that to her child, its just sickening. As usual another terrible mistake by the U.K. social services not stepping in quick enough to help this poor girl and what about her school, didnt they think it a bit odd that this little girl was off school for such a long time, oh the poor love must have been so desperately unhappy.

I really don't see the point in discussing religion here, it's not about whether you have faith and having to answer to your God when you've done something wrong. Morally, you should not do it, because initially you have to answer to YOURSELF, not to anyone else.

*****If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all*****

deepb if you don't like this type of debate, get out :P

Thought I should say it before someone else does ;-)

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Why does any debate have to take this ugly turn with personal threats? If you don't like it get out..... This seems to be the only answer if they can't justify their actions.

Olive said Just tired of the hypocrisy ...

Just tired of the hypocrisy on this site and in this country as usual eaglemannuel. Girl can only take so much before she loses her temper.

If you hate the hypocrisy which is happening in this country , then get out of it , why are you staying in our country if you dont like the way people think and dont respect our religion , you just stay here to get money and stab us behind our backs . I bet you 100% your just a snake when you meet a qatari person or your manager your just so nice and innocent , but deep down inside your just angry LOOOOOOOOOOOL i feel so sorry for you , why are you taking all this in , go back home and just chill there .

Girl can only take so much before she loses her temper.

bravo, u r not one of them :P

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Ufff read the first few posts and then got my head spinning :P

Ok for the original Post, there have been quite a few cases in recent past where British social services and child care organisations haven't done their job and I remember them apologising on more than one occassion so I guess they need to get their act together to avoid such situations.

Whether 7 years is enough, how many years is enough?

Is it ever going to be enough???

As for God, naaah I should stay away from that topic :P

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Wasn't accusing anyone outright one-Shot. As you said, I don't know you.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

i hope you wasn't accusing me by Hypocrisy olive, because you only know me through my posts not my actions.

but to be honest

sometimes i accuse myself because i am not practicing my religion the way it should be :(

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Didn't say it was deepb.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

Hypocrisy is not mutually exclusive to religion olive.

Good point on the thread by sugardaddy there. Although that was more of a anti-religion thread, but in retrospect it probably belonged in the religious thread category.

Just tired of the hypocrisy on this site and in this country as usual eaglemannuel. Girl can only take so much before she loses her temper.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

one_shot said ...yes this is my point, that i am trying to explain to others, i am not preaching in this topic like olive is saying.

i only got sick of people who think they are always right, and generalizing others, and at the same time they stick the mistakes to religions by mistakes of individuals..."

Precisely. Deviant teachings / misinterpretation by people.

Olive said "...I don't give any Christians credit for doing anything more than preaching either. But you can't blame me for getting sick and tired of those who preach but don't practice. "

Those who preach and don't practice do not believe in God but themselves. What's brought on this anyway? Sounds like an outburst of pent-up anger. Take it easy. To each his/her own.

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I was in the UK when this story broke , and I have to say it was never reported as a religious matter more the fact 2 Bad people did Horrible things, and the services put in place to protect them had oppurtunity to act but did not..

..I also disagree the comments that some people do bad things through lack of belief in God. I think Some people are just bad and do bad things. I know plenty of non-god fearing people that are good and leave good lives simply because there values and morals are at a level that supports them in doing this. Nothing to do with religion IMO.

but to be honest UKengineer

I HATE DOUBLE STANDARDS "and i am not shouting on you ;):D"

see this topic

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/951964

it is a pure religious topic, and olive or any other one didn't open their mouths to tell

wait ...stop... you have to post this in a religious group not here

i am not attacking the author "sugardaddy" noo

but if you see that because the title or the topic doesn't obligate with their ideas then it is ok!!!!!

where is the debating manners here ?? and open minds that we claim all that we have and criticize people who doesn't have

correct me if i am wrong

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again UKengineer

Can we fix it? :(

i suspect we can

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There is saying you will not be a hindu, or a muslim, your son of human you will be human.

Humanity and respect for other humans should be above everything, and everything else should follow...

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Don't worry one_shot, no one presumes that just because the name is Muslim or the person is Muslim, religion should be blamed for his crimes.

The only time the religion comes in for blame is when people commit crimes in the name of religion.

Well we know whats short for Richard. I guess thats why one does not like the name..lol

Back to the topic. This case in another example of the failing of the system in the UK. They should have picked up the signs if the parents were mentally unfit by someone!

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of the so called civilized society, they are fame for that, how ever they know very well how to cover their shits, unlike others don't know.

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god / religion has alway been a great reason to kill , invade and rape other people's land and wealth..."i wrote that so that olive wont unleach hell on me ) :D

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ukengineer

yes this is my point, that i am trying to explain to others, i am not preaching in this topic like olive is saying.

i only got sick of people who think they are always right, and generalizing others, and at the same time they stick the mistakes to religions by mistakes of individuals.

the story is that i made a topic about a monster in USA who rapped his 5 daughters, and now I've read about these monsters in UK.

and one of them has islamic or arabic name , so i was afraid that people could look to islam in a bad way. i think i failed because i can't change minds of people but at least i tried.

a person is responsible for his mistake, and if he was muslim or syrian he is still criminal.

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I've talked to a police officer here Oryx. Positively chilling.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

No problems I also had 3 hours sleep last night so the comments are not so detailed..:)

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Another reason is it wouldn't get printed in the paper here...if you ever talk to some of the Doctors at Hamad...shame shame shame

UK and Putin as in the ex-president of Russia means 'poofter' in Spanish

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Ooppss sorry UKENG. Too many threads and I'm getting who I'm talking to confused.

Yup sirdolly, I'm decades ahead of most people in this thread. It's a bit like talking to cave men.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

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UKENG I've never had any faith in religion but seem to follow others religions better than they do their own. What can I say. You don't need a book to teach you to be a good person.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

olive , as much as i admire ur persistance and ur everything , i have to tell you this :you're not in the right place at all...ur not even in the right time...sorry eh , u know i like chating with you , but to be true you wont achieve anything...as if you're in a parallel universe ...once again sorry :)

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Yes Oryx, but if we bitch about what happens in the UK and blame them for the Godlessness it means we can ignore the Godlessness here. :P

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

Which brings us full circle about don't worry your heads about the UK worry about where you live and child neglect:

a) children on front seat of cars

b) feeding kids junk food

c) leaving children playing unsupervised

Fundamental beliefs boil don't to the same bone really don't they?

and we got Father Bill to confirm that..lol

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Olive you are now a practicing according to your faith..lol

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No you don't Oryx, I don't give any Christians credit for doing anything more than preaching either. But you can't blame me for getting sick and tired of those who preach but don't practice.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

Just because he has a muslim names you start preaching. I think the post in more to do with the failing of child support services in the uk and should have been kept in that context. what does it matter if if it david, peter or abuhamza who committed the awful act.

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Then why do so many people for the last two thousand years kill in the name of God???

It has always been very popular all over the world.

I haven't read about many atheist suicide bombers....yet you blame it on a lack of faith.

I don't really agree with needing faith to prevent killing or abuse. People will continue to be people, irrespective of their religion and faith. Wars and killing are even mentioned in all religious contexts.

FS how do you know these people don't believe in God? Perhaps their religious teacher does advocate killing and abuse, plenty do. Or perhaps, as the court ruled, they weren't mentally fit to raise a child, which only has to do with God in that God made them, therefore he's as much at fault as they are.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

Preaching

Feeling Sanctimonious

Making themselves feel safe

Its always easier to blame an 'outsider' than take responsibility and look to yourself....

Its even better to look down on an alien culture/society to make you feel better about your own

You Don't see many fundamental Christians doing reflective thinking

mmm ok makes sense I guess.

People who believe in GOD may have our own reasons to beleieve GOD. If everyone in this world follow their whats written on thier books...all these things wont happen...no religion or God advocate killing or abusing!!

most of this is happening because of lack of faith...

Deepb

regarding the names of the criminals, some people think that the guy is muslim, and so to prevent misunderstanding about islam i attached this say by our prophet to prevent misunderstanding.

because we see it a lot

that was my idea.

i only wanted to mention that everyone is responsible for his mistakes, and religion has nothing to do with our mistakes.

thank you again for your comment deepb

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are you all high today or what?

So what are they doing Oryx besides preaching at people? Nothing.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

and from what i've observed, others comments are not "welcome", interesting topic though.

www.live365.com/stations/thevault85

Read a quite an interesting quarnic verse on a picture in Hamad hospital the other day. it read

saving a life is like saving humanity.

So when a human disgrades and neglects innocent child that person is also neglecting all man kind and this kind person should not have any place in the modern society.

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hhhmmm...

practice makes perfect, but nobody's perfect... so why practice? duh?! ☺

But don't you see being faithless is the root cause from their perspective as these people were not 'God fearing'.

From our perspective its the failure of parenting and social services.

I don't care if you believe or don't believe FS. What I hate is people who sit back and blame everything on people's lack of faith or what have you, which doesn't tackle the real issue or solve anything. Saying people don't believe in God and that's why children die from abuse is scapegoating, not solving the problem.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

This thread was hi-jacked by the author itself. First post and second post are not really related.

Olive we are not asking you TO beleive inGOd..then why are you asking us NOT TO belive in GOD??

So if you are worried about child neglect and abuse

one shot.. then I hope you put your Qu'ranic quotes to good use for the people who allow their children:

a) to sit on the front seat of the car

b) eat huge amounts of junk food

this reminds me of an incident that happened here with me , it was a hot july day , i had to go to the immigration department in gharafa...i parked my car, it was around 11:00 am , and when i was getting out of the car , i so this little sudani boy , he was around 4 or 5 years old , then i noticed that the car he was in ,had the windows all closed , and no one else was with him...i thought to myself "this poor boy might sophicate" , i started thinking of breaking the windows of the car and leting the boy out ...in a minute a qatari man came and stood next to me , we started both thinking of breaking the window...reminder it was hot like hell that day but the boy seemed ok...after two minutes we were gathered there :lebanese , indians qatari (christians , hindus , muslims) we were all thinking of how to save that boy's life..three minutes the boy's father came "the sudani man" , when he saw us he knew that he did something wrong , he looked at his son he was still at his place smiling at him...and in a way he apologized to us with a smile and without saying , we knew that he was thankful...

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I mean you people that are incapable of talking about anything but God.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

I see you are both right from your own perspectives

Olive from a secular society = that is being separate from religion ie education, law, identity, politics etc

Qataria from a non-secular society = that is religion is inherent in everything ie education, law, identity, politics etc

thank you olive for proving your point

now can you let us see the main topic??

wegot your point.

thank you very much for your understanding and corporation

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what do you mean by YOU PEOPLE ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

just be clear about that would you

read the main topiccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc

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Ok Khattak Ji !!

U may lead the thread Please.

I'm not fighting the religion, I'm fighting the stupidity of the idea that this had anything to do with a lack of belief in God. Why does everything have to be about God with you people.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

Rizks.... You stay out of it...this thread has already been Hijacked ;)

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rizk bro, how abt BOOST???

coz BOOST is the secret of all energies..lol

well i guess you didnt go further than junior high and dropped out from the way your reacting my dear .

just chill , we know you dont have a religion dont need to fight others religion :)

Your comment about the Saying of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is uncalled for. We as a Muslim believe in his sayings and as a follower of Islam believe the existence of Allah.

Your comment is offensive.:(

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yet another Religion bashing thread....:(

Why u people dont grow up ?

Dont u guyz drink HORLICKS ? :(

"talk to the hand coz the face aint talking"

I take it that further education was in junior high comebacks?

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

Hang on guys, therez no need to fight for religion..

heheheheh i got my education from UK which i guess is better than canada daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah , talk to the hand coz the face aint talking

Qataria78... dont waste your time, just go to Canada for further education & then you'll be eligible to post your opinions here :P

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A mother who starved her seven-year-old daughter to death has been cleared of murder, but has admitted manslaughter.

http://news.bbc.co.u...

but only 7 years??? it is really shocking

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According to the original subject that these things happen because people don't believe in God, then I am still on subject.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

go and relax you need it , you went way out of the original subject , just chilllllllllllllllllllllllll go and drink some 7 up

Qataria there is no proof of God or hell, so you can think that the comment is true all you want. Frankly I find it about as realistic as Harry Potter. I'm sorry you don't have the education to see that.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

I haven't hijacked the thread at all. Your comment was that stuff like this happens because people don't believe in God. I said this has nothing to do with God. Therefore I'm still on the topic.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

And then people blame poor Bajju & Rizks for hijacking. Tsk Tsk Tsk .... they still have to learn the art of hijacking. :(

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if you dont believe in god its up to you , but no need to be rude :P get my point , well its not a silly comment its a true comment and all of us muslims know this comment , so dont say its silly if you dont know the story behind it my dear . Well the people who dont believe in god fear of the police i guess that is why they dont do it LOOOOOOOOOOOL , my point is that we fear god and his punishment , if you dont believe in god then its your problem :)

olive

i see now how you changed and hijacked the topic,just because i mentioned a hadith in islam showing how we should treat other creatures.

it was a comment.

i did hijacked a threat of some one before "tallag" and apologized,and my hijacking was in the same field of his topic .

would you do the same i did????

the topic was about penusuila and lesser people

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Qataria lots of people who do believe in God go out and do those things. God or the belief in, has nothing to do with it.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

Yes you posted some silly comment about a woman going to hell for caging up her cat. As you can't prove that woman went to Hell, or that there is a hell at all, this thread has nothing to do with God.

How about we discuss the poor state of the UK's child services, that would be more relevant.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

eerr why is this posted under socialising??

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yes olive it does have to do with god , if you dont fear god then you could go out killing people , steal from people , hurt people and many other things , well that is our belief dont know what yours is

Did you even read the topic because i post it in 12:58 and you post your comment in 12:59

or it is just you have allergy when you see the word "GOD"

please read it, i posted here so you can read it, not to see comments

i don't have the fantasy comments on QL

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If you're going to bring God into it it should be in the religious teachings forum. Which it isn't.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

yes it has to be in Humanity forum

but i think there is nothing such a topic here

so socializing forum suppose to have humans , which i based my idea on

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Still has nothing to do with God and doesn't belong in the Socializing forum.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco

read the first comment olive

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http://www.quranexplorer.com/Hadith/English/Index.html

what level we reached now?????? please let somebody tell me

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This has nothing to do with God.

literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me

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Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions

Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 56 :: Hadith 689

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:

Allah's Apostle said, "A lady was punished because of a cat which she had imprisoned till it died. She entered the (Hell) Fire because of it, for she neither gave it food nor water as she had imprisoned it, nor set it free to eat from the vermin of the earth."

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