i don't know who is the one here changing the thread to another agenda could serve his personal issues .
i don't you , and we didn't have a real debate togather before as i remember, unless you are another ID to someone i used to talk to.
to be honest dot.com is not my friend, i added him recently if this is what you mean.
and i don't like some of his comments"sorry dot.com"
but he sometimes provides some evidences.
look john, by saying i am "lesser people", you just proved that you are not better than the journalist who made this mistake or whatever it is.
regarding the owner of this thread, he had his freedom to post here and make his point regarding this matter , and i gave my point also according to how i see it.
and by the way i apologized to him.
so don't be such an idiot and please don't make it personal, because as i know we are here to share knowlegde ,thoughts , and information..
sorry to everybody could read my post and didn't like it , because this post is directed as personal response to
some people "and the owner of this thread is not included
i apologize again man!!
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MU2M :(
I like French cofee,but it is simply Turkish with milk
"Maybe the happy ending is this, knowing after all the unreturned phonecalls, brokenhearts, through the blunders and misread signals, through the pain and embarrassment, you never gave up hope."
the fact that the phrase (lesser people) is in quotation marks goes to show that it was not an oversight on the writer's part. it may be a case of a "for-loss-of-a-more-appropriate-word" but why, oh, why did he not consult his editor for a more socially-acceptable headline?? he really intended it!
"Maybe the happy ending is this, knowing after all the unreturned phonecalls, brokenhearts, through the blunders and misread signals, through the pain and embarrassment, you never gave up hope."
Moreover of later I was beginning to think that peninsula is more a soldier of fortune, a mercenary, who kills on command for money,
a recent article of theirs on some bank charges, they were all pro Doha bank and was very hard hitting on HSBC (however they did not name HSBC but gave all the hints in the world that it was HSBC)
I get this feeling that the peninsula is very politically motivated, sometimes it a very fun read, I prefer Gulf Times a gazillion time more.
It's in the hard copy as well with pictures of the smillinh lesser people...... Bet they weren't smiling when they got up this morning eager to show their parents their picture in the paper. Some kids 15 minutes of fame wrecked.
(personally I blame the west and their anti lesser people agenda. After all these hypocritical westerners invented the English language to enforce racism and prejudice around the world....)
john of Arc, except I think you maybe put them on a bit of a pedestal to say they (pen. reporters)are 'lesser people', the Peninsula employ reporters that try to emulate their peers, hence they strive to reach the level of the 'lesser people'.
one_shot, I think you've just seen a chance to turn this thread into something else that suits your own personal agenda. QL never changes. Over and out.
They made a mistake by not checking whether their journalist had written something incredibly insulting and stupid.
But the journalist who wrote it, and by accountability the peninsula themselves, deliberately wrote those words, so the wording is not a mistake. It's not a typo or a spelling mistake. It's what entered their head when they thought of disabled people.
don't make it big issue, i bet i can find millions of mistakes in the newspapers
and some of them considered as a crime against the humanity
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(1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
(2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.
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source :http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
and yet you can find people accused of terrorism and being in jail just because of their religion or ethic origin :(
so don't give it a big deal people
there is a LOTTTT of injustice in this world and it is beyond a mistake in a newspaper
ok fellows?!!
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MU2M :(
I like French cofee,but it is simply Turkish with milk
Well we all know that all 3 English language papers are pretty atrocious, but for some reason The Peninsula comes in for more abuse than the others. Maybe cos they have more readers (do they?) or maybe cos they make more mistakes and do more outrageous things like this.
yes Oryx....this one is a good example.for that matter,you'll find a lot of stuff like this in this newspaper almost every single day.erm....they get most of their reports from QL threads,though....LOL
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How glorious it is - and also how painful - to be an exception. - Alfred de Musset
I've never read such a paper in my life like the peninsula - I've always hated the way they word things.. but this really is a new low, they've crossed so far past the line they can't see it anymore.
"lesser people"?? having genetic conditions doesn't make them any "lesser" than any of us.. surely they could have thought of a more appropriate title for the article.. :(
That was a bad and derogatory word to use for people with Genetic illness. They are no less human than everyone else. Sad form of journalism focussed on creating eye catching headlines by any means.
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Dear John
i don't know who is the one here changing the thread to another agenda could serve his personal issues .
i don't you , and we didn't have a real debate togather before as i remember, unless you are another ID to someone i used to talk to.
to be honest dot.com is not my friend, i added him recently if this is what you mean.
and i don't like some of his comments"sorry dot.com"
but he sometimes provides some evidences.
look john, by saying i am "lesser people", you just proved that you are not better than the journalist who made this mistake or whatever it is.
regarding the owner of this thread, he had his freedom to post here and make his point regarding this matter , and i gave my point also according to how i see it.
and by the way i apologized to him.
so don't be such an idiot and please don't make it personal, because as i know we are here to share knowlegde ,thoughts , and information..
sorry to everybody could read my post and didn't like it , because this post is directed as personal response to
some people "and the owner of this thread is not included
i apologize again man!!
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MU2M :(
I like French cofee,but it is simply Turkish with milk
my point is john
don't bother yourself to read my posts if you didn't like it
and please don't hate me because of my posts , just hate my posts itself
at least remember that if we don't share anything then we share humanity
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MU2M :(
I like French cofee,but it is simply Turkish with milk
and, boy, did we!
i still say, OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!
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"Maybe the happy ending is this, knowing after all the unreturned phonecalls, brokenhearts, through the blunders and misread signals, through the pain and embarrassment, you never gave up hope."
the fact that the phrase (lesser people) is in quotation marks goes to show that it was not an oversight on the writer's part. it may be a case of a "for-loss-of-a-more-appropriate-word" but why, oh, why did he not consult his editor for a more socially-acceptable headline?? he really intended it!
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!
~ Queen of Hearts
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"Maybe the happy ending is this, knowing after all the unreturned phonecalls, brokenhearts, through the blunders and misread signals, through the pain and embarrassment, you never gave up hope."
he probably did!!!
Moreover of later I was beginning to think that peninsula is more a soldier of fortune, a mercenary, who kills on command for money,
a recent article of theirs on some bank charges, they were all pro Doha bank and was very hard hitting on HSBC (however they did not name HSBC but gave all the hints in the world that it was HSBC)
I get this feeling that the peninsula is very politically motivated, sometimes it a very fun read, I prefer Gulf Times a gazillion time more.
J.J
Peninsula is the poor mans versions of The Sun (a british tabloid), I pity them, will never gain mainstream status... tsk tsk peninsula.
J.J
It's in the hard copy as well with pictures of the smillinh lesser people...... Bet they weren't smiling when they got up this morning eager to show their parents their picture in the paper. Some kids 15 minutes of fame wrecked.
(personally I blame the west and their anti lesser people agenda. After all these hypocritical westerners invented the English language to enforce racism and prejudice around the world....)
U r right - if you knew someone with such conditions - this hurts
This is a professional - not a high school student writing in a foreign language who may have misunderstood a synonym.
Should be sacked and HUGE apology.
Personal I would like to just punch him - makes me so upset for the reason WK mentioned.
john of Arc, except I think you maybe put them on a bit of a pedestal to say they (pen. reporters)are 'lesser people', the Peninsula employ reporters that try to emulate their peers, hence they strive to reach the level of the 'lesser people'.
sorry for that tallg,i didn't mean it
i just give my opinion regarding this matter , that is all
but when i read it i felt sad for that and i also remembered the double standards that we could have
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MU2M :(
I like French cofee,but it is simply Turkish with milk
one_shot, I think you've just seen a chance to turn this thread into something else that suits your own personal agenda. QL never changes. Over and out.
but i can tell here that the one who wrote this has a genetic Nazism problem ;)
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MU2M :(
I like French cofee,but it is simply Turkish with milk
They made a mistake by not checking whether their journalist had written something incredibly insulting and stupid.
But the journalist who wrote it, and by accountability the peninsula themselves, deliberately wrote those words, so the wording is not a mistake. It's not a typo or a spelling mistake. It's what entered their head when they thought of disabled people.
So if others are making these "mistakes" then Peninsula is allowed too???
Pointing fingers here, there, everywhere again.
"Live with passion, Die with style"
i am not defending them by the way,i just trying to make a point that these things happen in all around the world with a bigger "mistakes"
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MU2M :(
I like French cofee,but it is simply Turkish with milk
one shot you know any person with genetic problems?
You will feel differently if you did. It's not a mistake as tallg said, they meant to write it.
"Live with passion, Die with style"
but some one said that it is not mention in the hard copy!!!
that means it is a mistake,right?
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MU2M :(
I like French cofee,but it is simply Turkish with milk
It's not a mistake though. They meant to write it.
comon
don't make it big issue, i bet i can find millions of mistakes in the newspapers
and some of them considered as a crime against the humanity
**************************
Article 11.
(1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
(2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.
**********************************************
source :http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
and yet you can find people accused of terrorism and being in jail just because of their religion or ethic origin :(
so don't give it a big deal people
there is a LOTTTT of injustice in this world and it is beyond a mistake in a newspaper
ok fellows?!!
---------------------------------
MU2M :(
I like French cofee,but it is simply Turkish with milk
Well we all know that all 3 English language papers are pretty atrocious, but for some reason The Peninsula comes in for more abuse than the others. Maybe cos they have more readers (do they?) or maybe cos they make more mistakes and do more outrageous things like this.
Come on - only one paper when we have the Tribune which has still failed to invest in a dictionary!!!
QatarKiwi - My 6 months in France was lovely. Now back in UK and back at work. Not so lovely!
oryx - surely you could just hand them a copy of the peninsula each morning :)
Ah, so it does have context! I do wish that the Peninsula reporters would print their by-lines. It would show some journalistic integrity.
Mandi
For the Penisular to sink any lower it would have to start digging.... its a disgrace of a newspaper and a affront to the English language.
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
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It's quite odd, really, since the article gives an opposite take on the subject. The word "lesser" is in quotes and I've never heard it used that way.
Mandi
does seem to be in poor taste...
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its a better way to be heard.
"The more I see of the world the more am I dissatisfied with it." Jane Austen.
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
"Resident Attention Seeker"
this task and write a letter to the editor on behalf of QL Community :-)
yes Oryx....this one is a good example.for that matter,you'll find a lot of stuff like this in this newspaper almost every single day.erm....they get most of their reports from QL threads,though....LOL
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How glorious it is - and also how painful - to be an exception. - Alfred de Musset
I am currently collecting real examples of dismal writing for a lesson to teach my students how NEVER to write.
Perfect.
So if someone like Stephen Hawking is lesser - then this journalist is.........???
I think Carnegie Mellon and the artist will do that for us FU. I can't see Carnegie Mellon letting something like this slide!
literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me
out there trying to rid the world of its poetry while getting it wrong fundamentally down at the church of "look,it sez right here, see!" Ani Difranco
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
"Resident Attention Seeker"
"The more I see of the world the more am I dissatisfied with it." Jane Austen.
I've never read such a paper in my life like the peninsula - I've always hated the way they word things.. but this really is a new low, they've crossed so far past the line they can't see it anymore.
They would have been getting sued right now if it happened anywhere else.
"Live with passion, Die with style"
time and again,i am being proved right in my decision NEVER to read The Peninsula!duh!what a load of bull! x-(
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How glorious it is - and also how painful - to be an exception. - Alfred de Musset
Its only on the online edition.... I read the paper today morning i dint find that title.
FS he's probably the only one who thinks that of himself.. how shameful...
Wonder who made the writer bigger than these people...
But what I need is a strong headbang.
A big effing EH?!?!?
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
Sickening, really.
--All you really need is love, but a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt-- Lucy Van Pelt
Maybe its only pictures of people who are missing limbs tallg, therefore "lesser-er than folks with complete bodies"
Or they are just dumb numpties.
Hows France treating you by the way?
"lesser people"?? having genetic conditions doesn't make them any "lesser" than any of us.. surely they could have thought of a more appropriate title for the article.. :(
Source:
- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)
"Resident Attention Seeker"
That was a bad and derogatory word to use for people with Genetic illness. They are no less human than everyone else. Sad form of journalism focussed on creating eye catching headlines by any means.
"It is better to be hated for what you are than being loved for what you are not."
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literal people are scary, man, literal people scare me
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