Environment of Qatar
Many people have moved here for work and from many different countries. its so nice to have different people from different walk of life.
I have been in to some researches in some environment here last days and I found Many of them are very poor in English (Spoken) and specially the way they communicate and pronounce the words.
Even Many office staff in some organizations,do not even good enough in their paper works. I have noticed in many organizations through out the country.
This situation can spoil the future of our children and all people here as they will learn only some broken English in this environment, having such people arround...!!!
Its better if we can get corrected, either by recruiting good english speakers or reducing such people from this environment.....!!!
My sincere wish is to protect this environment from Bad and Lies..... and the Innocent people, at my level for the future developements.....!!!
Nic... Do some job buddy:)" You sound like a fully grown kid:)":)":)"
TheSecretWeapon,
Which part of "you get what you pay for" , you don't understand?
Do not bother much about the Arabic Language.....
Its about spoken English...Its better if you all can think how it can effect this environment in future than just commenting on this topic.....
We dont need to be an expert to bring out an issue or complaint which can effect or harm this environment... people who can make changes, will come up with good decisions and will work for improvements.....
Also, its better if you all can see this issue as an outsider and in other point of views....
Cause of people gain something here....we dont need to hide things from the truth.........!!!
Try to speak perfect Arabic and make sure you dont corrupt the local language
TheSecretWeapon,
For the sake of Qatar’s social environment, you should protect your kids from people like you!
so do you 'speak' perfect english thesecretweapon?
Here I am not talking aout my English grammar or your English grammar.... (In my Topic too I have clearly mentioned that... its for Spoken English)
And its about.....How it gonna effect this environment in the near future.... and the real fact....!!! Also, this is not to teach English through this site...... Only to protect people here.... from Broken Languages.....!!!
as always, look in front of a mirror first before criticizing others....
Arien,
It is obvious, by the way TheSecretWeapon writes, that she is not an English speaker.
She is just being meaninglessly pretentious probably in an attempt to lift here low self esteem!
Any educated and humble individual would understand that anybody may have an accent when speaking a foreign language. The English level she refers to is actually very good, when considering what the speakers are paid!
whyteknite is right.
It is not going to spoil the kids in anyway. Kids are going to schools and they will learn.
Why the English speaking always want the whole world learn their language and make their life easy , lol. Try and learn the local language if you find it difficult to converse and wana live here. simple
TheSecretWeapon,
You shouldn’t be complaining because your English is far from being perfect.
What kind of English is this:
"I have been in to some researches in some environment here last days..."
thanks anyway...at least I know you can read. Though I'm not sure if you could really comprehend.
Cheers and Good Luck with your topic's objectives...
NEVER EVER SAY Filipino's speak American English:)"...... Joke of the Day:)":)":)"
Dont put US English to your levels.....
Researcher, my "___" ;-P
whatever makes your boat float...cheers and good night!
Filipinos speak American English??????:)":)":)"
Kids.....Jokers.....Time Wasters..... are most Welcome..... BUT NOT TO THIS TOPIC...... I will add one for you all......later....!!!
Nomad_08 was asking you what kind of English are you referring to? still, you just wise-cracked an answer...NOT GOOD.
Folks from UK speak different English depending from what part of the country they come from.
Americans speak English with a definitive twang also depending from what state they live.
Filipinos speak American English bcoz it's their 2nd language unless they were born and grew up other than the US.
Qatar is a country where people from different countries come to work. And because of this, the locals and Arab speaking nationals would have to learn to do business.
I would like to reiterate that, as long as the message/idea is conveyed clearly...what's the problem?
If the concern points mainly about the children, parents send their kids to school to learn it.
So, I still don't get your point?
Ok I will not bother you now, Good night :)
**** Aal Izz Well****
whyteknight...... Dont be a ......:)"
Youn know only some Filipinos speak fluent Arabic:)"....
I know many other Nationals too speak very fluent Arabic.....
Also I know many Filipinos.... speak Broken English as well.....
You did mention that the Arabs learn broken English from Filipinos and I replied that it's not their fault.
I said: "I know SOME Filipinos who speak fluent Arabic , maybe bcoz they stayed in an arab country for a long time."...and you said I MENTIONED "only".
Again, we're still waiting for your validation because if this is how you defend your stance...sorry GIRL, you need to research more.
Oh so you have the right to abuse the language and if someone else misuses it then it becomes a threat to the future generations?
You are amusing for sure if nothing else.
**** Aal Izz Well****
whyteknight.... Still you are wasting yours and others time.......
Here am not talking about my or your English.....
azilana7037.....U proved that you are a real Filipino:)" I mean, Why you only mentioned about filipinos???? and said (You know some Filipinos who speak fluent Arabic in an earlier comment)
What about the other Nationals???? you seems your are too good in hiding things.... You are just slipping away from VALID POINTS.....
[(1)You Said: That comment made me double check my comments above...can't find that phrase where I said that?
Would you please look/read again?
;-P
(2)You Said: where did I posted that I posted that ONLY Filipinos fluent Arabic]
PLS. DONT SPOIL THIS ENVIRONMENT and innocent people's life here......
where did I posted that ONLY Filipinos fluent Arabic
And your spelling and grammar are turning to be gibberish. I can't understand what you're meaning to say.
So, what if I'm Filipino? My English is quite fine, thank you...
However...in this case, you started this topic and for us to concede with what you are saying, you should cite VALID POINTS. up to this time, you still failed to do so.
Hurry up and validate or we would assume that you're just being pretentious.
Tried to resist posting here but it was too tempting ;)
Thesecretweapon you are butchering the language yourself. How about using "Why" instead of "Y" and "because" instead of "Kos". Kids maybe reading this forum also so you need to use proper English here.
**** Aal Izz Well****
azilana.....You better not... take oneside, first....to make good decisions... untill u get to know what's really oing on.....!!! Also,to make good conversations....
You started with Filipinos....Y? Kos you are a Filipino???? Do u think they all speak good english?????? Some can be good.....but Many speak Tagalish....here!!!(If u take the percentage wise)
Nobody's perfect.... !!!
AlfaR... You said...You cant see the point of criticizing people in this country because they dont have the best english.
You seems you are criticizing people AlfaR....!!! and u say...that they dont have the best english..... Why??????
So u accept my point...(Indirectly)..!!! I mean it gonna effect much in future.....
So many mistakes lol
cant = can't
english = English
You seems you are = It seems you are
u = you
Where did you learn your English
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That comment made me double check my comments above...can't find that phrase where I said that?
Would you please look/read again?
;-P
U can float for sometime.... qaisarQatar...!!!
azilana....why you said....ONLY Filipinos speak fluent Arabic??? what about others????
... any idea where should I go.
Nobody's perfect.... !!!
AlfaR... You said...You cant see the point of criticizing people in this country because they dont have the best english.
You seems you are criticizing people AlfaR....!!! and u say...that they dont have the best english..... Why??????
So u accept my point...(Indirectly)..!!! I mean it gonna effect much in the near future.....
when you say environment it pertains to the physical and tangible aspects of a specific area , entity or subject....meaning: the sorroundings.
Do you find it as an ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE that Arabs speak broken or little English?
Correcting one's use of English, grammar or pronounciation could be misconstrued and may cause alienation....depending on how one does it.
BUT...in the tone of your posts, you somehow imply that you don't like what you hear around you...sad to know that though. Coz if you can't be happy or be content or live in harmony with the ENVIRONMENT you're in, there really is a problem...with you.
you must be having an inferiority complex mr 'thesecreteweapon'?
Nomad....It should not be TAGALISH....OR HINDHISH....or URDHISH....etc,!!!
(If u cant understand what it means.....Dont waste ur time...thru this)
azilana7037......As you said, Some Filipinos who speak fluent Arabic,coz they stayed in an arab country for a long time.....
...The Arabs too can learn broken english from them.....!!!
TheSecretWeapon, it can certainly take time to learn english and even your own english isnt that good. I cant see the point of criticizing people in this country because they dont have the best english
so which english do you prefer`? american english? english english?, scottish english? canadian english? australian english? kiwi english?....
It can take time..... But it can be too late...!!! Some people dont even know that they dont know what's right and wrong..... They just keep on spreading things...!!! It can effect the future of this environment....for sure...!!!
but if the Arabs you met speak broken english, it's not their fault. People learn a new language at thei own pace, it takes time.
May God bless and guide u always... whyteknight...!!!
So I'm sure there's not a problem with that. I know some Filipinos who speak fluent Arabic , maybe bcoz they stayed in an arab country for a long time.
Maybe you should consider that as long that the people conversing understands each other or the person was able to convey what he meant to say...what's the problem with that.
English grammar, pronounciation and diction could be taught at school. Plus as parents, we make sure we correct our offsprings when we know they speak wrong English.
Just my opinion....
Sorry to post again but shouldn't it be ofcourse you were wasting time???
Looks like you need to do some work on your English too.
Take care, bye.
**** Aal Izz Well****
of course u waste time.....!!!
I don't think my children will ever get spoiled just because people are not speaking Queen's English around them. Maybe I am too slow in your opinion but then again your opinion doesn't really matter in my life so it's ok. Keep going on about English, I am out of here as I see I am wasting my time with you.
**** Aal Izz Well****
I would love to....whyteknight....!!! But still U are too slow to understand things.....as I feel....!!! Better you take some time.....and comment again....!!!
Kool:)"good Idea....Thank u for ur info...Harrrrry !!!
I want to tell you the same thing, Come out of your circle of English. Learn some other language, would be good for you.
**** Aal Izz Well****
Mr.Secret Weapon, Please generously organize cheap/free English Course..
If you really care with others and want to help.
You can advertise in QL/Gulf Times.
I believe many people would like to attend to enhance their communication ability to be like Native Speakers, hence good English course (Inliqua, British Council) are very costly.
I think whyteknight didnt get...what am really talking about....!!! Come out from the circle.....!!!
Of course this is not an issue for expats.....Cause they know where to depart when there's a situation as such....!!!
So you don't want to learn any language and expect everybody else to know English fluently??
As I said before there won't be a problem if we all speak Arabic here, no broken English will be involved.
**** Aal Izz Well****
The future of this environment should not speak Hindish, Urdish, Malayalish, Tagalish.....thinking as its ENGLISH...!!!
of expats are going to school so their English has to come from there.. but in reality grammar free English is what you need to get your things done.. People are nice at times and go out of their way to help so this is not really an issue .. at least for me ..
There is a time for departure even when there's no certain place to go.
U better Feel it...!!!
Its not a single guy's problem..... It gonna effect the whole country in future..... Make some calls to some Service Centers or some Call Centers.... You will forget English....!!!
We manage to get by, it's fine.
Why don't you learn some of the other languages, then you will be conversing in some other language and not broken English.. After all native English speakers are a small minority here. Shouldn't they change rather than ask the huge majority to change????
**** Aal Izz Well****
When they communicate with expats....the only tool is ENGLISH...!!! The people who communicate to locals...other than Arab Nationals....they too use English!!! If they use broken languages...the people in this environment and the children too can learn the same.....(Thinking its English)!!!
But why.. If you are saying on the basis of the number of expatriates Hindi, Urdu, Malayalam, Tagalog should be more important. If you look at the country you are in, Arabic should be more important.
How is the future of your children getting spoiled if people don't speak English in an Arabic country, I am confounded.
**** Aal Izz Well****
I am talking about the language English.....!!!
why?
It's an Arabic country so why not good Arabic speakers??
**** Aal Izz Well****