Ramadan: Exemptions & Forbidden
Every day during the month of Ramadan, Muslims around the world spend the daylight hours in a complete fast, not eating any food or taking in any liquid.
Exemptions
There are all sorts of ways in which a person can be legitimately be exempted from fasting:
Young Children
People in poor health
Pregnant women
Nursing women
Menstruating women
Travelers, if the distance traveled is great
If one feeds thirty poor people each day
Feeding thirty poor people each day is a technical excuse for avoiding the fast which everyone must observe, but it is rare for a rich person to actually use this exemption. It would be looked up very, very badly by the rest of the community and the rich person would probably lose much too much respect for it to be worthwhile.:)
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Forbidden
There are also a number of things which would not otherwise qualify as food, but which are also prohibited:
Putting drops in the eyes
Saliva leaving the mouth and then reentering
Sex
Listening to music
Harsh words/arguments[...ahem,ahem QL!]
The theological reason for abstaining from food, water and other things is to better learn the nature of personal limitation.
http://hadayatulquran.blogspot.com/
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In these modern days of air-conditioning, for most people in Qatar fasting is not the same as it was in days of old. One Sudanese compared fasting in Qatar to Sudan:
"The people here are just playing at fasting. They should try it in the Sudan, living in a hut with no fan, let alone AC, and working hard in the sun all day. That’s fasting!" :)
http://www.qatarvisitor.com/index.php?cID=412&pID=990
Cheer up drac. Eating toufu and milo is also good for sleeping. Not too much beer and valium.
La la la...
Don say Drac is Nice...
it doesn go well with the Blood sucking image.... :)
He is good at being Bad... :)
But of course he didn mean to offend someone here... He wanted to share the excessive research he does on net....
Have a life..
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Men will wrangle for religion, write for it, fight for it, die for it, anything but live for it
The points are all there. Its a matter of expression by individual readers. Just some are too defensive, and that would make a differences between an open minded person and a hermit.
Salam
ok!
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I believe you meant well by this post trying to build bridges. It's not your fault to have tripped over one of those fishy "Muslim" sites, we all have, just be careful not to believe all you read..
Salam
... I am very glad to see that ID cards are requested to enter bars and pubs!!! Maybe when there is another pub quiz night in the Ramada we can:
1. actually hear something above the shouting and laughing of local people,
2. actually be smoke free during the quiz night (as that was one of the rules during pub quiz but not followed ONLY by local people - expats were going outside to smoke!),
3. not have to put up with obnoxious behaviour coming from local people who are drunk and don't know how to behave towards a foreign, respectfully dressed woman!
Fasting in AC is easy ?????
fasting in spite of being so close to luxuries is I feel more diff Kinda fast....
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Men will wrangle for religion, write for it, fight for it, die for it, anything but live for it
every 1/2 day??
Always!
Thanks!
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As an argument, YOU can say like that. :)
I don't know who is and who isn't muslim on QLSG.
For me they are just friends living and working in this country!
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I second Amoud on that.
I'm sure YOU personally know many muslim even in QLSG who drinks. I don't know then why you made that statement. Just to stir up something? :)
Dracula, there are plenty of muslims in the bars and pubs.
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
True!Consuming alcohol is forbidden for Muslims!
Are they in bars and pubs? I dont think! :)
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So right troll, they can also ban the sales of cigarettes and close up the sheesha places as well.
All about personal choice people... ____________________________________________________
"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
Consuming alcohol is also forbidden. Can YOU close all the bars and pubs? :)
"Listening to music: It is forbidden in Islam, not only during the month of Ramadan."
hmmm...... is that so...... can we close music stores then? (Virgin per'se)
"There are three types of men:
One who makes things happen;
One who watches things happen;
One who wonders what happen."
Lies are misguidance
Do not make Islam as your time pass hobby
When there are good websites why do you have to refer to stupid blogs?
Dracula, now that sounds slightly better. :)
"From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. (...)He will transform (...) into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."
[Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol.7 Hadith No.5590]
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I stand corrected re. 'fellow Muslims'.
However, as I also stated, there is a difference of opinion. Just because the blog you refer to has a particular opinion, this does not make it right.
Anybody can write a blog to bash Islam by presenting himself as muslim or being an ignorant muslim, that blog does not have any references from Quran or hadith to support its claims.
1)please check the source: http://hadayatulquran.blogspot.com/
2) i aint a "fellow muslim"!
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where there is a difference of opinion,e.g. with eye drops because to present something as invalidating the fast where there is an element of difference amongst the people is wrong= you can't state as fact unless you have undisputed evidence by the majority of the people.
Similarly, to say that listening to music is wrong and should be avoided is one thing. But to class it as something which invalidates the fast is an innovation (since it is not in the lists of what breaks the fast) and innovation (bid'ah) is haraam.
Please take care when advising fellow Muslims in this manner.
So what. The more exemptions and forbiddens, the better. Just in their dreams.
As per Dracula, I just noticed he said that it is written that He will transform 'the rest of them' into monkeys and pigs.
So it seems that the ones that consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, alcoholic drinks & musical instruments as lawful, will be exempted....the rest will be transformed into monkeys and pigs
nice info!
regardless of source all these issues are very common and i beleive these are right...
Ditto Bleu.
That link is not a reliable source.
Dracula, i could not find anything about that 30 people in your link as well.
bleu, I am not a troll :(
Drac,
Yes you are a troll, feeding 30 poor people cannot be an excuse, your link is totally unrelated to that....
+ Our thobes are never made of silk.... You seem to be ignorant in these things...
http://www.ramadan.co.uk/section7.htm
... where does it mention smoking? Is that allowed?
"Feeding thirty poor people each day" never exempts an eligible Muslim from fasting in Ramadan. This is a false statement.
Salam
Does taking a first class flight on Qatar Airways to London count in the "Travelers, if the distance traveled is great" column?
Is that means, a wealthy person who can feed 30 people are exempted from fasting? :# Thats news to me Dracula. Does some one have any reliable source for that? A verses from Quran or any sahih Hadith other than that blog?
Really its interesting to find such a information regarding fasting and ramadan procedures thnxsa lot................
Feeding thirty ppl a day exempts from fasting?!!
No my dear it doesn't.
Many rich ppl open tents in ramamdan for feeding a hundred persons a day yet they fast nevertheless cuz they still have to.
So that's why my Arab Muslim officemate play-wrestled with the Nepali teaboy a few hours ago. It's not forbidden.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
Thats too much turning people into monkeys and pigs. Why not mules and donkeys.
"From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. (...)He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."
[Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol.7 Hadith No.5590]
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WEARING OF SILK IS LAWFUL??? LoL!
ALL the thobes here are silk made!
Ramadan is a time for prayer and supplications. Music can be adistraction from these.
Couldn't get the heads and tails about the music thing. I thought in GCC (as seen in Arab music TV) music is gaining popularity as entertaintment for young and old.
Legal Sex (Husband & Wife) is not forbidden during the month of Ramadan. It is only that, one cannot do sex while they are fasting. It doesn't mean the whole month of Ramadan. I mean, they can do at night after breaking fast. (They should take bath before they fast the next day)
Listening to music: It is forbidden in Islam, not only during the month of Ramadan.
Eye drops for medical reasons doe not invalidate the fast..
Similarly, Nasal spray - only in case of necessity.
The last paragraph speaks volume and the true meaning of fasting
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