You seemingly right. It just appears to be the rules doesn't really applies to everyone. But then, allow me to add one more rules here, that is sooo common.
Apple, someone asked me once: what are the immigration/labour rules in Qatar? My answer was simple: Rule #1 (and often the only 1): "There are NO rules".
What is perfectly working for one, irrespective of one’s nationality, gender, age, religion, political preferences, etc., might not working for another, irrespective of another’s nationality, gender...see above :)...
Moreover, whatever worked for one person once, might not work for the same person next time (with the same name, same passport number, same nationality, same gender.. see above.. )
So, when the questing starts from "IS IT POSSIBLE...?", the answer is "EVERYTHING is possible".
And that was my point, dear :)… how are you anyway? Long time…
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QS, you are always special dahlin, no doubt on that ;))
Now I have this thoughts in mind, does the Law based on some nationalities too? Because normally, like Dweller said, you cannot made it possible w/in a yr.? at least that's what we've been told.
guys, no need to doubt it! I HAVE CHANGED the sponsorship within 1 year. I PERSONALLY. As the matter of fact, my RP was just "5 month old" at that time...
Apple, NOC is NOC. It means the previous sponsor does not mind you to work for another company. You can either transfer your sponsorship right away, even within 1 year, sometimes even without leaving qatar, or you can leave Qatar, to find another job and come back any time without waiting till 2 year ban is over.
All the guy needs is NOC letter. And hey, it's better not to belong to very few nationalities when as someone said, he might be asked to leave qatar within 48 hours. But this is a different story and has nothing to do with NOC, or duration of work with the previous sponsor. Some people try to just renew their RPs and asked to leave country.
So get a NOC and good luck with your new job!
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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
you will be able to change sponsorship within the first year. That was the answer I was given when I tried in 2004 even though the company were prepared to give me an NOC and I had another job and sponsor lined up.
as per Qatarli law, it is a MUST for TWO years to complete with the first sponsor. But I have seen people changed job before completion of TWO year,, even just completing ONE year .
but NOC is a must,,, if you have one, I dont think there is problem. Be selective in the second sponsor. The second sponsor should not have any dubious past
You will be banned for 2yrs once your RP is cancelled, which is why you need to reassure that your current employer will grant you an NOC to return. Please note that your RP must be cancelled prior to exit, otherwise your new employer wont be able to apply a new visa for you. Once you exit the State, and with an NOC on hands, things will be fine with you, in God's will!
But changing sponsor within a year working of the same sponsor with a work visa/permanent visa stamped on your passport and without EXIT will not be possible for you as per Immigration Rules. You can double check with your company's PRO, though.
Did you experience this situation coz I discuss the issue of some HR-PRO the give me different answer the other one give me 95% assurance that I will not be banned but other PRO give 100% assurance that it will be ok to transfer to other sponsor. with this two different assurance one thing the are in common that I will exit to my country of origin and back here in Doha for new visa.
If I'm working for 6 months to may current sponsor and i will resign with NOC (release paper from my sponsor). As per advice to my next sponsor that i will exit to point of origin and they will just send the new visa & plane ticket this is possible?
You may have the NOC on hands from your current sponsor, but the Immigration will not allows you to change your sponsor, when you did not completed a 1 full year work visa with the same sponsor. And working with another company not your sponsor is certainly illegal.
Given the situation between a certain two countries I would not if I was you. I have heard of people being asked to leave Qatar within 48 hours after asking for a transfer. You should inquire with other people from your home country here and they can fill you in on it. Its politics again!
I suggest he/she secures a written approval or some evidence to testify his employer will release them.
Another QLer posted that after he dropped the legal case he filed against his employer, who previously agreed to release him but didn't pay his dues, they turned against him and denied the agreement.
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Oh! very well dear, tnx for asking :)
You seemingly right. It just appears to be the rules doesn't really applies to everyone. But then, allow me to add one more rules here, that is sooo common.
Rule #2 "Wasta" :P
Apple, someone asked me once: what are the immigration/labour rules in Qatar? My answer was simple: Rule #1 (and often the only 1): "There are NO rules".
What is perfectly working for one, irrespective of one’s nationality, gender, age, religion, political preferences, etc., might not working for another, irrespective of another’s nationality, gender...see above :)...
Moreover, whatever worked for one person once, might not work for the same person next time (with the same name, same passport number, same nationality, same gender.. see above.. )
So, when the questing starts from "IS IT POSSIBLE...?", the answer is "EVERYTHING is possible".
And that was my point, dear :)… how are you anyway? Long time…
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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
QS, you are always special dahlin, no doubt on that ;))
Now I have this thoughts in mind, does the Law based on some nationalities too? Because normally, like Dweller said, you cannot made it possible w/in a yr.? at least that's what we've been told.
guys, no need to doubt it! I HAVE CHANGED the sponsorship within 1 year. I PERSONALLY. As the matter of fact, my RP was just "5 month old" at that time...
Apple, NOC is NOC. It means the previous sponsor does not mind you to work for another company. You can either transfer your sponsorship right away, even within 1 year, sometimes even without leaving qatar, or you can leave Qatar, to find another job and come back any time without waiting till 2 year ban is over.
All the guy needs is NOC letter. And hey, it's better not to belong to very few nationalities when as someone said, he might be asked to leave qatar within 48 hours. But this is a different story and has nothing to do with NOC, or duration of work with the previous sponsor. Some people try to just renew their RPs and asked to leave country.
So get a NOC and good luck with your new job!
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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Yes, it is possible.
I have seen a guy, who changed after 8 months of his joining.
In that case,
1. THe first sponsor did give an NOC
2. The second sponsr was a strong, reputed one
In the abvoe criteria, it can be possible.
you will be able to change sponsorship within the first year. That was the answer I was given when I tried in 2004 even though the company were prepared to give me an NOC and I had another job and sponsor lined up.
His question is changing work or perhaps transferring sponsor BEFORE completing 1yr with his current sponsor.
as per Qatarli law, it is a MUST for TWO years to complete with the first sponsor. But I have seen people changed job before completion of TWO year,, even just completing ONE year .
but NOC is a must,,, if you have one, I dont think there is problem. Be selective in the second sponsor. The second sponsor should not have any dubious past
You will be banned for 2yrs once your RP is cancelled, which is why you need to reassure that your current employer will grant you an NOC to return. Please note that your RP must be cancelled prior to exit, otherwise your new employer wont be able to apply a new visa for you. Once you exit the State, and with an NOC on hands, things will be fine with you, in God's will!
But changing sponsor within a year working of the same sponsor with a work visa/permanent visa stamped on your passport and without EXIT will not be possible for you as per Immigration Rules. You can double check with your company's PRO, though.
Did you experience this situation coz I discuss the issue of some HR-PRO the give me different answer the other one give me 95% assurance that I will not be banned but other PRO give 100% assurance that it will be ok to transfer to other sponsor. with this two different assurance one thing the are in common that I will exit to my country of origin and back here in Doha for new visa.
Definitely, your current sponsor. :)
who will provide the "NOC to return within the 2 yrs banned period"? is it the sponsor or immigration. Tnx
That is possible. But your visa should be cancelled by your sponsor and you need "NOC to return within the 2yrs banned period".
Note: NOC to transfer sponsor is different from NOC to return w/in 2yrs banned period.
If I'm working for 6 months to may current sponsor and i will resign with NOC (release paper from my sponsor). As per advice to my next sponsor that i will exit to point of origin and they will just send the new visa & plane ticket this is possible?
You may have the NOC on hands from your current sponsor, but the Immigration will not allows you to change your sponsor, when you did not completed a 1 full year work visa with the same sponsor. And working with another company not your sponsor is certainly illegal.
Hi Fado
Given the situation between a certain two countries I would not if I was you. I have heard of people being asked to leave Qatar within 48 hours after asking for a transfer. You should inquire with other people from your home country here and they can fill you in on it. Its politics again!
I suggest he/she secures a written approval or some evidence to testify his employer will release them.
Another QLer posted that after he dropped the legal case he filed against his employer, who previously agreed to release him but didn't pay his dues, they turned against him and denied the agreement.
Better be careful.
Salam
it is not a problem at all, since you have got a NOC letter, and another offer..
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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Before or after a year, it’s difficult to grant you one, specially if your employer is Qatari.
Be careful please.
Salam