Like i have been posting, i have a muslim girlfriend, if we decide to marry, i'll have to convert.
I would like to know how it is to be converted and what's requested, would be thankfull anyone that could explain me the procedures.
Thanks in advance
Realtorqatar: I was born christian, and since young i leurned that a christian also submits himself to God/Allah ;)
"You know that a man becomes a Muslim by reciting a formula which is very elaborate but consists of a few words only : La Illaha Illallah Muhammadur Rasullullah."
For someone that doesn't speack arabic that's complicated for me to say, hope there's an english or portuguese translation for it :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Hey I was commenting on the meaning of Muslim in Arabic. You can search the dictionary for the meaning of Muslim in Arabic. It is "One who Submits to God". And every child is born being submitted to God.. Then he starts to get away from God with his deeds once he gets into adulthood.
And the Meaning of "Allah" in English is "god"
Just try to get hold of any "Arabic Bible" to get the same.
It's the same with women too dude.. You can see Islam is the second religion in world. But, when quality counts.. real muslims will be a minority (the people who really obey God, by their deed and life)
Every human is born muslim (Muslim means = One who submits to God".
So you are not converting will be reverting by embracing Islam.
Any way, I'll praise your sacrifice for love, But Islam needs sacrifice for God. So better Study Islam and then only embrace it. Islam means real devotion to God and his rules.
So it will be better for you to not convert; if you are not going to be a real Muslim; The sin is many times more for a muslim for not obeying God's rules, Than a Non-Muslim who is unaware of God's Rules.
If you really wish to get a change in your life after Studying about Islam, you can go for it and feel the changes it brings to a person.
New converts are about to feel the real taste of Islam, for many in the new generation Muslims, Islam is inherited, and the converts Feel a real change in life and get the new experience and peace given by Islam.
Glossary::::
Brethren-in-Islam!
You know that a man becomes a Muslim by reciting a formula which is very elaborate but consists of a few words only : La Illaha Illallah Muhammadur Rasullullah.
" There is no god but God: Muhammad is the Prophet of God".
I ain't in Qatar, but should be going to Lisbon Mosque to talk with Sheik David Munir, hope he'll help me out to understand and what are the procedures, thanks anyway :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Allah brings people to Islam in many different ways, and if it is through his girlfriend who is to say it is wrong?
You can go to Qatar Guest Center or QCPI - Qatar Center for the Presentation of Islam (you can get their number from Q-Tel). Alternatively you go to the Sharia court (used to be at Mannai R/A, not sure if it is relocated or not) and you will take your Shahadah before a court official. You need a witness for this and they will give you a paper and tell you that you need to go to the Ministry of Awqaf for classes. After this the Ministry will give you the paper to collect your Shahadah certificate.
I wont insist on them having a different religion, afterall, i'll be converting because i love her, if i love her i wouldn't never impose her to convert or to raise our kids on another religion different from Islam, but they'll be free to read about all in the web or at TV.
I think everybody has their own beliefs, just that love sacrifices, when you truelly love someone, please God/Allah just don't break any of his commitments related to love.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
people answered and gave opinions and all the necessary things to do
i just have one concern when you 2 have children will you raise them on Christian beliefs of Islamic beliefs , will it bother you to have your kids being Muslims and raised as Muslims or will you do the same with them officially Muslims but raised on other religion. although u r officially Muslim but emotionally u r not.
will u keep practicing ur old religion even infront of your children which will confuse them for sure.
you have to think thoroughly about this about consequences in your life and the lives of others.
Not all Muslims abide by all the rules of Islam , lots of Muslims they don't even pray and may drink, and do all that forbidden stuff by Islam but still there's something emotionally inside them.
Baby phat: Thanks a lot for sharing you friend's couple experience, i spoke with my girlfriend, and regarding kids education, she's free to send them to a muslim school, like several people have said in other posts here, today's technology will give them the chance to know more about the world, just like it already happens in Qatar, the younger are starting to change their habits, i have read and i know that woman is the responsable for children education, in Europe it's natural that the women are the responsable for kids education but share it with the man.
As i intend to bring my girlfriend to Portugal, don't think i'll have much to worry about her family.
She told me that she only wanted her mother to know about us, because she fears her family.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
by the way, you're not a pussy (as what others said) when you bend or give-in to your girl's wishes...this only makes you a perfect GENTLEMAN.
though it takes two to tango, or "give n take" is good, for me, i would rather love someone if he's more flexible to give-in to my wishes (not demands or commands)coz it's how guys would melt gals and kinda cute when you put more effort for her sake...
depends on the culture, in arab world (based on what i observed), a man is "the MAN" if .. he decides on everything, from the house, housemaid, children's school, clothes, food, where to go, etc. only he has the right to go out alone but the miserable wife can't go without him or his green light?, only he can divorce the wife whenever he wants (as for the wife, well you'll be lucky if you can get out of his life and you have to be court for heaven knows until when just to get out of his life), an older sister can't marry or even go to malls without the his approval (very controlling), only he can do whatever he wants, goes to places where ever he wants, meet people whomever he wants...all these only he has the freedom to do so, poor girl left under his control from what time you should be home, what to wear, how not to have access to the net (always thinking you might do something or meet someone), it's always malicious to make male friends, even to shake hands! (i mean it's a very decent and ethical gesture when you are being introduced)...isn't this always a good gesture when you meet someone, it's even a good sign of diplomacy(see pics of presidents, ministers et al)...so what's wrong with that? it might take years for me to understand why it's malicious...and not allowed...so many things...anyway, i'll leave you in peace coz things are not getting into the issue..hehe
to answer your question, you could go to the Sharia
Court, take necessary docs (passport, birth cert, etc) with you, a Judge or an authorized person will then meet you, he will then ask you the reason why you are converting (you might want to keep your original reason for yourself...hehe you might end up turned away)...so instead, tell them you believe that you find it a true realigion (it's a white lie to really get what ou want), then he'll ask you to say something (he'll tell you what to say)...then wait till the paper is ready...you have a choice to change your name into a muslim name though not really compulsary...
if you don't mind, i just want to share with you something that might lighten your mind up...a friend of mine is married to a muslim (she's christian and converted to Islam for the same purpose as yours), at the very beginning their love, promises and all were really immeasurable as in super duper sky rocketing love affair...soon after a year, baby comes...problems, conflicts are expected for a newly wed. this is what we call adjustment period but theirs for all I know is pretty much--huh i couldn't even say what...not that I am being cynical about mix marriage, but i've seen and observed closely how couples of different nationality, different religion and culture upsets a relationship..you can argue this by pledging your true love, but reality speaks, reality hurts people, fact is fact and since you are not really embracing and believing her religion by heart, you'll eventually find it difficult to keep up. Not only you'll face probs with her family but there are so many things that would contribute to the downfall of your marriage like my friends. all the love and care they showed before they got married flew out of their window, disrespect, insulting each other's belief will be unavoidable. there'll be controlling of one's way of eating, whether haram or not, how you'ld dress up and carry yourself in public. funny coz simple, petty things will turn out big and quite embarrassing..putting malice and all on things like shaking hands with another gender, glance at a girl/guy (by mistake), receiving guests at home etc...but the worst of all, is how you want your kids to grow up (whether to follow your original belief or hers), where they are going to school, believe me your kids might end up confused whether they'll listen to you or her, etc...
anyway, it's all up to you, just weigh the situation, think about it million times, do some computation (balance sheets...hehe), never jump to a fire if you're having 1% uncertainty over this...coz once you get hitched, if you're a christian, there's no turning back, marriage is not a game, it is very solemn, a god-gift to mankind, it will be your children's foundation of life, it is lasting and divorce is taboo in roman catholics..there is no divorce actually..marriage is a lifetime commitment...FOR RICHER OR POORER, FOR SICKNESS OR IN HEALTH, TILL DEATH DO YOU PART...
Just remember that you are sole owner of your own decision. Follow your heart and not others peoples heart. Is not all about religion at all, is about both of you being happy.
I know that you are facing a new threshold and is very confusing. Stick to what is best for both of you.
My best wishes to you.
Britexpat
Your posting, just broke the speed and sound barrier record at mach-20.
Nicely done, You just set up, the beacon and light guidance at the end of the tunnel for this young man.
I agree with u brit, I think this posting is now going and going for no reason.
Platao, as i mentioned before, took the shahada verbally, then u are officially muslim and the girl and her family must treat u on that basis. What is in ur heart is between u and Allah, We do not need to know it.
Is that hard to do???
I think it is better to put an end for discussions here cus there is nothing more to be said in that issue.
I get a little worried about these types of postings, because they always degenerate into side issues and non winable arguments...
You want to make your future bride happy by converting to Islam, thus not only legalizing your marriage in religious terms , but also appeazing her family...
This is quite understandable.... So what's the problem?
EG: Thanks, but i'm one of those that doesn't blame all muslims by the actions of a few.
Red Pope: Yes, it's hard to do, mainly when you love someone like i do, i wanna please everybody and this issue sounds so confusing, i'm used to just care about the girl herself, later we worry about her family, now, a muslim girl is completelly different, she fears that someone of her family finds out about us.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
When I said that if u become Muslim and u convert to another religion u deserve death sentences, I did not mean that any other Muslim individual can kill u. This has to be applied by the Islamic government and after a trial and giving a chance to reconsider. The only governments that apply that nowadays are KSA and may be Iran too. If any normal individual did that, it will be considered a crime.
It is like the execution sentences that many governments apply on killers, drug dealers...rapist...etc. Converting to another religion after being a Muslim is a crime too that deserves death in the Islamic laws such as adultery. Why is that, it is a long story. But if u listens to it without being bias u will be convinced and not only that u will be also thinking that this is the right thing to do. The aims of Islam are 5, to maintain one’s mind, soul, body, dignity and belongings (like money). All Islamic regulations are there for that aim.
Again most of you are mixing between Muslims’ acts and Islam, while and as I said before unfortunately the acts of the majority of Muslims nowadays do not represent the true Islam. I understand it is hard for you to believe that. but if any one of you tried to study the Islamic religion seriously and away from the news papers, TV, Muslims' acts and QL. He will discover another thing than the stereotypes and the shallow ideas in his mind.
If you really want to know about Islam, Pls do that through specialized institutes and not here.
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Hashimo: Thanks for your words. I'm not muslim but i would never impose such a thing to my wife, i belive in freedom, if my wife decides a path, i'll be with her all the time, i'll convert because i love her and don't want her to have problems with her familly.
I also would like to add that i have several muslim friends and that they are as good, friends, as someone with any other religion, what matters is the people not the religion ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Slow down Platoa, it's not racism that you can't marry a muslim girl. It's only that the man being the head of the family MIGHT impose his belief on her or prevent her from practicing hers. So why is it ok the other way round? A muslim man is not allowed to impose his religion on anybody so he won't impose it on his non- muslim wife. Hence such a marriage won't lead to someone having to leave his beliefs. And if you don't believe in Islam, then don't convert just for a girl.
And about killing, it is only permitted in self defence. So please don't take the all too common view these days that muslims kill with impunity. There have always been Kamikazes in every culture, and islam doesn't condone such behaviour in principle. But in the end it's not a must, it's a right to defend yourself. Feel free to give up that right when you're looking down the barrel of your enemy's semi automatic ;)
Olaniran, i don't criticise them, please do note, if i don't convert my girlfriend will loose familly if she marries me and it wont be considered valid in Morrocco, and when i say i'll convert but wont be a religious person several muslim do exactly the same, just that i prefer to be honest and say i don't care about religion, there's something called freedom of choice and that can't be changed, it doesn't matter what you call it, will always be a crime.
It's already bad enough that a muslim girl can't marry a non muslim ( this is considered a form of racism ), now not respecting others freedom is unaceptable, you may kill the body but not the soul.
The replies i receive about how easy it is for a muslim to kill another human being are only showing me and i velive everybody else that Islam is not a love religion but based on fear and hate, then come complain that you are descriminated, someone tries to build bridges between cultures, religions and social life and the reply i got is you are not good enough or if u change opinion you get killed, and these guys call themselfs muslims? No, no one that takes a human life as easy can be considered a true muslim, because you are offending God/Allah with your actions, but people have been so brainwashed on those countries that they aren't anylonger aware of the real world, if you are truelly a muslim, than you cannot kill another human being, it is said pretty clear at Qur'am:
"Rest assured that Believers (Muslims), Jews, Christians and Sabians - whoever
believes in Allah and the Last Day and performs good deeds - will be rewarded by
their Lord; they will have nothing to fear or to regret.[62] 2:[62]"
Or it also may have opposite meanings?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Let me be honest with you from my own point of view........I am a christian but i think the muslims are very nice people they are very tolerant and brotherly i just found out recently as i am trying to come to Qatar all the muslims i have met along the way are very nice and helpful {QL} the only time you would get into trouble is if you are not straight forward with yourself and if you are a liar then i think islam would not work for you MY FRIEND THERE ARE SEVERE CONSEQUENCES love or no love!!!!
Platoa, there is one true way to God. He choses the best human being of any given time to convey that path. So prophets act upon God's guidance and DO NOT make mistakes. And they certainly do not contradict themselves. You mix up general laws with specific laws when you say "thou shalt not kill". There are many people who fought against the prophets and their messages because it was harming their interests. After all, revelation came in times of injustice and tyranny in order to re establish justice and equality. So a confrontation between God's followers and oponents is bound to happen at a certain point. When that happens "thou shalt not kill" is preceeded by "fight back against those who wage war against you".
As for how to worship God, He chose His prophet to set the example of how He wants us to worship Him. Yes, He knows what is inside us but He gives us a chance to prove it so that when we come to judgement we can backup our claim by what we did during our life. And in islam, belief isn#t just words, it must be followed by action.
Eco-savvy: Are you aware that i don't live on an islamic country?
Here who kills in name of religion is a murder as anyone that kills someone else, being a monotheist, having been blessed with the gift of being able to talk with the spirits of the dead, i may see the world with different eyes from those that follow books sayings literally, like i said and also read on a site, Allah sees all and he'll decide if i was that wrong, no one else has that right, by judging a man by what they imagine he is, replacing the beloved God/Allah as a judge is a sin, not to mention that God/Allah said, "you shall not kill".
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Platao you're halfway to the truth...yalla embrace Al- Islam and study sunnah...there you will know the connection or the link between Allah, prophets and us.
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
EG: Thanks for your explanation, think it was one of the best i received :)
As i have been saying Good/Bad can be found anywhere, any religion, anyone that thinks the opposite is just trying to fool himself.
Ray99b: Yeaps, i agree with you, is more important what God sees that what we show to other mortals on our planet, it's usually said that you can lie everybody except yourself and God, by this i mean, God ain't ambiguous but people are.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Unfortunately this is the LAW we are fouling ourselves with, There are many non Muslim people who are closer to god as per Islam value than many others who they are “Muslim” However all you have to do is to go to an Islamic court and register your marriage there they will tell you what to do. I think all you have to do is saying “Ashahadi AN LA ILLAHA ILLA ALLAH and MOHAMAD RASOUL ALLAH” أشهد أن لا إله إلاَّ الله و أشهد أن محمد رسول الله
"I bear witness that there is no god except for God (Allah), and Muhammad is the messenger of God."'
That most of the people how are discussing this are not Muslims and even the Muslims are not so sure about what they r talking. So, let me explain some facts that are 100% correct:
1- There is difference between the Islamic rules and the social ones. Legalizing the marriage is a social requirement to organize the society but not an Islamic one.
2- Muslim women ARE NOT allowed to marry Non-Muslims men. This is Islamic mandatory rule and not only a legal or social one. So, even if the laws allow Muslims women to marry non-Muslims. This marriage is obsolete islamicaly and is considered adultery and not marriage. No need to mention that adultery is forbidden in Islam and in this particular case it deserves death sentence.
3- Mr. Platao, If you said "ash'hado enho la ellah alla allah wa anna Mohamed rasolo allah" = “I testify that no god except allah and Mohamed is his prophet”, then you are officially become Muslim. Legalizing that is not required by Islam it is required by the social laws only and just do it the usual way as per your country of residence.
4- If you took shahada as mentioned above. We as Muslims MUST treat you as normal Muslim. EVEN if we ARE 100% sure that you are doing this to get married only. You know why? Cuse we believe that Allah has his own ways and every thing happening in this universe by his OWN will. you did not choose to become Muslim by your own free will as you may think. Allah chose you to do so and what is in your heart is between you and him only.
5- Once you became Muslims you can not go back or convert to any other religion. If you did so you deserve death sentence.
6- I can sense from your words that you are some how a religious person. Iam sure when u study Islam well you will become a better Muslim. You will find answers for any doubts / questions you may ever have. I do believe you will guide your wife to be a good Muslims as well. I have seen this case happened before.
7- MY advice, even if you are not sure about it in ur heart yet, do not wait take the shahada, get married and try to be a good Muslim step by the step.
8- FOR ALL OF NON-Muslims, you have to know that unfortunately, there is a GREAT difference between the real Islamic religion and the MUSLIMS’s acts nowadays. DO NOT judge Islam b by the Muslims acts.
Would like to add that if i would be as religious as some people that prey every day and go mosque/church/sinagogue, i would get flamed by hearing some insults, but God has tought me to love and, metaphorically, to give the other face if slapped.
For me, all human is equal, don't care their religion, status, race, economical, social issues, we are all brothers and should love each other like that. :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Monotheism is the religion of beliving only in God, as a perfect being that loves all his "Children", God is love, when you love you please God, all profets are considered as mere mortals that as any Human had contradictory thoughts, afterall, only God/Allah is perfect, there's no holly book in Monotheism, there's no convertion or reconvertion once that before any profet, there was already God and he a perfect being doesn't contradict himself, while, prophets as imperfect beings as any human
do mistakes and can even contradict themselfs, a good example are Mohamed and Moses, God said :
"You shall not kill", but both killed other humans just because of a matter of faith, what perfect father would ask an imperfect father to punish his children?
Not that both profets aren't truelly prophets but due to their human imperfect nature they may have missed that part that Jesus Christ later, in case of Moses, said about loving each other as he had loved, but even Jesus sounds contradictory according to the persons that wrote the 3 Holly Books.
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Hashimo:
In the pillars of Islam, 2 leave me some doubts.
2)To pray five times a day as taught by Muhammed
Are you sure that he meant prey and not talk to God?
God only knows that you belive him if you prey?
4)To fast the month of Ramadan
Why would a perfect being ask his followers such a sacrifice once that he knows all we think and do and the reasons why we do something.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Dear Platao. Islam is interpreted as being the relegion of submission to the one and only God, the Almighty Creator of the universe we live in who sent a chain of prophets to mankind all preaching the same theological message of monotheism. As a muslim, we believe in the prophethood of all previous prophets including Moses and Jesus. The only difference is in accepting the legislation that is set forth in each subsequent revelation, the latest being that which is in the Quran, as a way of life. If you read a bit more about Islam, you will find that the teachings of Prophet Muhamed are not very different from what Moses or Jesus taught. So if you accept that there is only one God who is the unique Creator of this universe and to whom we will all answer after death, and if you accept that Muhammed conveyed the last message from Him to mankind, then you are a muslim.
The five basic pillars of worship are:
1) To bear witness that there is no god worthy of worship other than the sole Creator of the universe and that Muhammed is His last messenger
2)To pray five times a day as taught by Muhammed
3)To pay charity to the poor
4)To fast the month of Ramadan
5)To make pilgrimage once in your life to Mecca if you can afford it.
The six pillars of faith are:
1)To belive in God alone as being the sole Creator and Sustainer of the universe
2)To belive in His Angels
3)To belive in ALL His prophets
4)To belive in ALL Holy Books revealed by HIM
5)To believe in the Day of Judgement
6)To belive in destiny
That's a brief description of Islam from what I know and what I have read and practiced over the years. I wish you the best of luck and feel free to ask any more questions and I will try to help you in answering them if I can.
i really wish you the best you and your girlfriend, and I suggest that you check the Islamic Cultural Center before, try to ask questions to understand. And believe me you will find very good answers.May God bless your marriage and be filled with joy and peace
Yesterday i was advised to check http://www.islamonline.net/ and found out a very interesting line about my situation.
"Dear brother in Islam, thanks a lot for your question which reflects your care to have a clear view of the teachings of Islam. Allah commands Muslims to refer to people of knowledge to become well acquainted with the teachings of Islam in all aspects of life.
First of all, it should be clear that a Muslim should seek a righteous spouse for marriage. Religion and good character should be the top concern of every Muslim when looking for a spouse. This is compatible with the Prophet's guidance: "A woman is married for four things: her wealth, her family status, her beauty, and her religion. So you should marry the religious woman; (otherwise) you will be a loser" (Al-Bukhari)."
I wonder if by good character he means beautty?
If not, then by choosing a wife with good character i'm already pleasing God/Allah, or you guys think i'm wrong?
"Islam does not teach us that we marry only within our ethnic circle. Islam treats all of humanity as a single family. Allah says in the Qur'an: [O Mankind, We have created you from a single pair of a male and female and made you nations and tribes in order for you to recognize one another; verily the noblest of you in the sight of Allah is the one who is most conscious of Him] (Al-Hujurat 49:13)."
Guess this confirms my sight as monotheist, God/Allah love all his children :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
How come the million or so times a girl has asked how to convert for the sake of her husband everyone just says Mashalla and Mabrook and directs her to islam online or an Iman, but when a guy does the same thing he get's told he's pussy whipped, that he's not doing it for the right reasons, etc.?
A Muslim man can marry any woman of the "books" as Islam protects the rights of the woman, no matter the faith. Since this is not the case for Christianity or Judaism, Muslim women are only permitted to marry a Muslim man. Correct?
On divorce, all faiths allow it (save Catholicism)?
Basics of becoming a Muslim:
http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/Muslim.htm
Platao36 - May you be blessed with a life of happiness with your new spouse.
Marriage and Conversion
Then again, some other people discover Islam through the course of their lives. Perhaps they go somewhere, meet someone, or come across a book. And still there are others who fall in love, marry a Muslim, and through the process of time discover Islam. All the possible ways of finding Islam are indications of the mercy of Allah and of how He guides those who wish to be guided.
Converting to Islam in a mariage or love issue isn't a faith, but Islam is submission, and submission is a way of life and responsibility. Absolutely accepting Islam is the most precious gift that one is received.
another thing is that guidance can't be obtained neither from science not mystical experience, so consult with your local Imams, i hope that your life should be a succesfull one, and you are fortunate one as well since all your sins will be washed away.
May Allah keep us with Islam.
Life is a school, people are students and the days are teachers.
same story like me and my lovely hubby..nothing bad about muslim or christ..he converted too to marry me. I'm so brainwashed not to marry any other religion..so he converted before we get married.
It sounds more because of love..not because believing..tried open www.islamonline.com you can find all the answer there if you really want to learn abt it.
I am a monotheist, i do belive in God, even read that some scholars defend that a monotheist doesn't need to convert to Islam to marry a muslim girl because muslim also believe in God and Jesus, only difference is that they also consider Mohammed as a profet, the main thing is to belive in God/Allah.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
If you don't care about whatever your current religion is enough to keep it, than I highly doubt changing will have any impact on your life.
Lets say you were going to marry someone, but they would only do it if you said believed in UFOs. If you don't care about UFO belief enough to dump her over it, you probably didn't care much about it in the first place, therefore changing your opinion will have little effect on your life.
summing up: chicks trump religion every time.
[I]"If you're going to believe in crap than you might as well be living in it"[/I]
me my self did not show any harsness i showed him the way..
and for you gypsy were you being baptised or what so ever? if not then you are still in the state of fitra or muslim...but oonly thing is that you did not yet accept islam...
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
I'm not trying to start an argument, I think people are just being a bit harsh on the guy for converting out of love for his girlfriend rather then belief. Frankly, does it really matter why he converts? It's another number for the statistics.
gypsy i presume you said being a born muslim is not a choice? if it is you are right!
but have you notice that a muslim dont have baptismal? simply bec. every child is born is a muslim only their parents makes them so and so by baptism etc.... so if any one from other religion who want to become muslim,actually the right term here should not convertion must be revertion.. means return back to your origin.
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
Gypsy, I agree with u. I was born a muslim, but I didn't choose to follow it until and unless I was satisfied that (shi'ite secotor of Islam) was the right path.
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"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" - George Galloway.
Sorry thought u were a guy. Well either way I am being wise and your explanation is unappropriated and misleading. U make it seem like Islam is a game.
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"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" - George Galloway.
So if him converting to Islam to get married is so bad, why is it ok to be born Muslim? Surely nobody should be muslim unless they absolutely are doing it because of their belief in God.
just go to the closest Mosque in your country, they will ask you to repeat 3 sentenses. then you are. well, there will be a lot learning if you find yourself lost in the marriage and i think you should study the way you like to really accept the relegion. best of luck.
it's difficult ...to accept something that you never thought you have to
Eco-savvy, ur conception is 100% pure bullsh*t. I think you chose your religion not to follow the god, but to follow your girl friend or wife. May be thats how you worship in your world. That doesn't work in real world.
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"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" - George Galloway.
One more thing, religion is not a game. Don't play with it, if u convert to islam just for the f* of it or to get married to your girl friend, then dont bother. U r not doing it for god, u r doing it for her.
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"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" - George Galloway.
Plato..You dont need to learn Arabic, personally i think you should read more about Islam and in particular marriage in Islam, in English so that you can understand everything, then later learning to read Arabic if you wish to do so..
As for being 100%per cent muslim, i dont think anyone is, as muslims we strive to be as much as we can and ask guidance from Allah to guide us to the Quran and Sunnah..
I dont think you are being disrespectful, your a non muslim who found yourself in a situation you are trying to solve in the best way you can, personally i find it disrespectful when muslims find technicalites in religion to get what they want, fully understanding Islam, like in the other thread with the father and the guy who are trading a young girl in the name of islam..
Why do u have to convert?, if she can choose to have a boy friend the she has to have the tendency to accept him with his religion. If she was a real muslim, u wouldn't be with her. So conversion doesn't really matter my friend.
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"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" - George Galloway.
so back to your question... You first need a total conviction that "Theres no other God worthy of worship but ALLah Alone and that Muhammad is his Messenger" of course there must be blend of sincerity and knowledge.and thats only you can tell that, then get imam or muslims as witness. thats it!
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
I thought you are in Qatar. Well as suggessted earlier you can browse through the web. But NOT every website will give you the right idea about Islam. Check this one out its a certified website about Islam (plenty are there actually)
http://www.islamweb.net/
There is Discover Islam tab as well as New Muslim stories as well. Besides, you can get a FATWA (Islamic opinion) from any religious scholar, rather going to different people asking for things and getting confused. Its always better to ask the Islamic Scholars.
I don't mean to be desrespectfull towards any religion, and i agree it's more a technical problem that a true Islam issue, according to Islam law, my gf isn't truelly a muslim, but maybe i change afterwards.
"Qui sera sera
what ever will be will be
futur ain't ours to see ;)"
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
but who we are to prevent you from entring into same faith...theres no compulsion in religion anyway...it is open to any one, perhaps or maybe now you dont see its value but sooner....
guidance is from above not from any one.....
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
There will be harmony, because i love her, i would never ask her to change religion, i do think that all religions are beautiful, Humankind is the one who spoils them.
For love, the most amazing things can happen, i'm starting to read the Qur'am, do i need to leurn arabic?
May i be a racional muslim or i must belive everything it's written in Qur'am?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Plato, it is important that people convert to Islam because they believe rather than love, but its seems that your girlfriend isnt into Islam anyway and this is a technicality you both need to get through.
Its not up to us to judge why hes converting, i think its between him and god. Theres been many cases where people have converted for love and consequently have gone on to embrace Islam, and others havent. We dont know whats in peoples heart..
Plato, i suggest you go to some Islamic websites and research about procedures on how to convert for marriage by scholars, you will get an accurate answer there..Good luck..
I guess if you really love that girl you should also like her religion other wise you 2 will not be happy..
perhaps take some times understanding islam... read thouroughly if after studying it still youre not convince then leave her...find others that suit your belief..in marriage there should be harmony in the home...
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
as brit said, if you are not doing this for yourself, than you better not, by you taking a Shahada will not make you a muslim, you have to be a believer.....tell your GF to give you sometime, look and research and learn about Islam, at the end you might actually want to convert for yourself rather than just so you could marry her...
Anahmed, I ain't in Qatar, i'm in Portugal, just wanted you guys to tell me what are the requesitions, about being a good muslim, all i can say is that i'm converting for love not because i belive it, it's the law at Morocco that says that if i don't convert, marriage ain't valid, for Love i can make some sacrifices.
Muslim brothers/sisters, don't feal as an ofense that i don't belive truelly on it but it also hurts me that my girlfriend family may give problems or even ignore her if i don't convert
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
You can visit the AWQAF (Islamic Affairs) department in Al-Sadd next to Arab Bank and Honda Showroom. They will guide you with all the necessary details, material and procedure. BTW I will suggest that you go through the Islamic teachings really well before embracing the religion. May Allah SWT help and guide us all to the right path.
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I do, since i was young i feal his call, just that celibacy stopped me from going to priest ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
PM: I'm doing it for Love, God/Allah is always pleased when there's true love :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
PM: Thanks :) Who can be my witness? Anyone or must it be also a muslim?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
PM: Thanks
Realtorqatar: I was born christian, and since young i leurned that a christian also submits himself to God/Allah ;)
"You know that a man becomes a Muslim by reciting a formula which is very elaborate but consists of a few words only : La Illaha Illallah Muhammadur Rasullullah."
For someone that doesn't speack arabic that's complicated for me to say, hope there's an english or portuguese translation for it :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Hey I was commenting on the meaning of Muslim in Arabic. You can search the dictionary for the meaning of Muslim in Arabic. It is "One who Submits to God". And every child is born being submitted to God.. Then he starts to get away from God with his deeds once he gets into adulthood.
And the Meaning of "Allah" in English is "god"
Just try to get hold of any "Arabic Bible" to get the same.
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'Every human is born muslim (Muslim means = One who submits to God".'
WTF? That the most bizarre comment I have EVER seen on here!!
It's the same with women too dude.. You can see Islam is the second religion in world. But, when quality counts.. real muslims will be a minority (the people who really obey God, by their deed and life)
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How about a woman? What does she have to say, realtorqatar?
Every human is born muslim (Muslim means = One who submits to God".
So you are not converting will be reverting by embracing Islam.
Any way, I'll praise your sacrifice for love, But Islam needs sacrifice for God. So better Study Islam and then only embrace it. Islam means real devotion to God and his rules.
So it will be better for you to not convert; if you are not going to be a real Muslim; The sin is many times more for a muslim for not obeying God's rules, Than a Non-Muslim who is unaware of God's Rules.
If you really wish to get a change in your life after Studying about Islam, you can go for it and feel the changes it brings to a person.
New converts are about to feel the real taste of Islam, for many in the new generation Muslims, Islam is inherited, and the converts Feel a real change in life and get the new experience and peace given by Islam.
Glossary::::
Brethren-in-Islam!
You know that a man becomes a Muslim by reciting a formula which is very elaborate but consists of a few words only : La Illaha Illallah Muhammadur Rasullullah.
" There is no god but God: Muhammad is the Prophet of God".
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I ain't in Qatar, but should be going to Lisbon Mosque to talk with Sheik David Munir, hope he'll help me out to understand and what are the procedures, thanks anyway :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Allah brings people to Islam in many different ways, and if it is through his girlfriend who is to say it is wrong?
You can go to Qatar Guest Center or QCPI - Qatar Center for the Presentation of Islam (you can get their number from Q-Tel). Alternatively you go to the Sharia court (used to be at Mannai R/A, not sure if it is relocated or not) and you will take your Shahadah before a court official. You need a witness for this and they will give you a paper and tell you that you need to go to the Ministry of Awqaf for classes. After this the Ministry will give you the paper to collect your Shahadah certificate.
Converting to Islam is wrong.... Reverting to Islam is right!!
I wont insist on them having a different religion, afterall, i'll be converting because i love her, if i love her i wouldn't never impose her to convert or to raise our kids on another religion different from Islam, but they'll be free to read about all in the web or at TV.
I think everybody has their own beliefs, just that love sacrifices, when you truelly love someone, please God/Allah just don't break any of his commitments related to love.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
people answered and gave opinions and all the necessary things to do
i just have one concern when you 2 have children will you raise them on Christian beliefs of Islamic beliefs , will it bother you to have your kids being Muslims and raised as Muslims or will you do the same with them officially Muslims but raised on other religion. although u r officially Muslim but emotionally u r not.
will u keep practicing ur old religion even infront of your children which will confuse them for sure.
you have to think thoroughly about this about consequences in your life and the lives of others.
Not all Muslims abide by all the rules of Islam , lots of Muslims they don't even pray and may drink, and do all that forbidden stuff by Islam but still there's something emotionally inside them.
Love doesn't live forever.
Red Pope: Thanks
Baby phat: Thanks a lot for sharing you friend's couple experience, i spoke with my girlfriend, and regarding kids education, she's free to send them to a muslim school, like several people have said in other posts here, today's technology will give them the chance to know more about the world, just like it already happens in Qatar, the younger are starting to change their habits, i have read and i know that woman is the responsable for children education, in Europe it's natural that the women are the responsable for kids education but share it with the man.
As i intend to bring my girlfriend to Portugal, don't think i'll have much to worry about her family.
She told me that she only wanted her mother to know about us, because she fears her family.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
by the way, you're not a pussy (as what others said) when you bend or give-in to your girl's wishes...this only makes you a perfect GENTLEMAN.
though it takes two to tango, or "give n take" is good, for me, i would rather love someone if he's more flexible to give-in to my wishes (not demands or commands)coz it's how guys would melt gals and kinda cute when you put more effort for her sake...
depends on the culture, in arab world (based on what i observed), a man is "the MAN" if .. he decides on everything, from the house, housemaid, children's school, clothes, food, where to go, etc. only he has the right to go out alone but the miserable wife can't go without him or his green light?, only he can divorce the wife whenever he wants (as for the wife, well you'll be lucky if you can get out of his life and you have to be court for heaven knows until when just to get out of his life), an older sister can't marry or even go to malls without the his approval (very controlling), only he can do whatever he wants, goes to places where ever he wants, meet people whomever he wants...all these only he has the freedom to do so, poor girl left under his control from what time you should be home, what to wear, how not to have access to the net (always thinking you might do something or meet someone), it's always malicious to make male friends, even to shake hands! (i mean it's a very decent and ethical gesture when you are being introduced)...isn't this always a good gesture when you meet someone, it's even a good sign of diplomacy(see pics of presidents, ministers et al)...so what's wrong with that? it might take years for me to understand why it's malicious...and not allowed...so many things...anyway, i'll leave you in peace coz things are not getting into the issue..hehe
there is no use to become a muslim for just marriage if ur really wiling to become muslim become completely not for the sake of a girl
Naye dost banane ki aadat hain hume, Apni alag pehchan banane ke aadat hain hume,Chahe koi kitna bhi zakhm de, Phir bhi muskurane ke aadat hain hume
to answer your question, you could go to the Sharia
Court, take necessary docs (passport, birth cert, etc) with you, a Judge or an authorized person will then meet you, he will then ask you the reason why you are converting (you might want to keep your original reason for yourself...hehe you might end up turned away)...so instead, tell them you believe that you find it a true realigion (it's a white lie to really get what ou want), then he'll ask you to say something (he'll tell you what to say)...then wait till the paper is ready...you have a choice to change your name into a muslim name though not really compulsary...
if you don't mind, i just want to share with you something that might lighten your mind up...a friend of mine is married to a muslim (she's christian and converted to Islam for the same purpose as yours), at the very beginning their love, promises and all were really immeasurable as in super duper sky rocketing love affair...soon after a year, baby comes...problems, conflicts are expected for a newly wed. this is what we call adjustment period but theirs for all I know is pretty much--huh i couldn't even say what...not that I am being cynical about mix marriage, but i've seen and observed closely how couples of different nationality, different religion and culture upsets a relationship..you can argue this by pledging your true love, but reality speaks, reality hurts people, fact is fact and since you are not really embracing and believing her religion by heart, you'll eventually find it difficult to keep up. Not only you'll face probs with her family but there are so many things that would contribute to the downfall of your marriage like my friends. all the love and care they showed before they got married flew out of their window, disrespect, insulting each other's belief will be unavoidable. there'll be controlling of one's way of eating, whether haram or not, how you'ld dress up and carry yourself in public. funny coz simple, petty things will turn out big and quite embarrassing..putting malice and all on things like shaking hands with another gender, glance at a girl/guy (by mistake), receiving guests at home etc...but the worst of all, is how you want your kids to grow up (whether to follow your original belief or hers), where they are going to school, believe me your kids might end up confused whether they'll listen to you or her, etc...
anyway, it's all up to you, just weigh the situation, think about it million times, do some computation (balance sheets...hehe), never jump to a fire if you're having 1% uncertainty over this...coz once you get hitched, if you're a christian, there's no turning back, marriage is not a game, it is very solemn, a god-gift to mankind, it will be your children's foundation of life, it is lasting and divorce is taboo in roman catholics..there is no divorce actually..marriage is a lifetime commitment...FOR RICHER OR POORER, FOR SICKNESS OR IN HEALTH, TILL DEATH DO YOU PART...
good luck and best wishes!
Platao
Just remember that you are sole owner of your own decision. Follow your heart and not others peoples heart. Is not all about religion at all, is about both of you being happy.
I know that you are facing a new threshold and is very confusing. Stick to what is best for both of you.
My best wishes to you.
Britexpat
Your posting, just broke the speed and sound barrier record at mach-20.
Nicely done, You just set up, the beacon and light guidance at the end of the tunnel for this young man.
Very well done, for a hillbilly from England..
LOL/Just kidding
"Don't make me write your name on my TURD List!"
ok, thks 4 all opinions :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
I agree with u brit, I think this posting is now going and going for no reason.
Platao, as i mentioned before, took the shahada verbally, then u are officially muslim and the girl and her family must treat u on that basis. What is in ur heart is between u and Allah, We do not need to know it.
Is that hard to do???
I think it is better to put an end for discussions here cus there is nothing more to be said in that issue.
I get a little worried about these types of postings, because they always degenerate into side issues and non winable arguments...
You want to make your future bride happy by converting to Islam, thus not only legalizing your marriage in religious terms , but also appeazing her family...
This is quite understandable.... So what's the problem?
Just go ahead and do it!
EG: Thanks, but i'm one of those that doesn't blame all muslims by the actions of a few.
Red Pope: Yes, it's hard to do, mainly when you love someone like i do, i wanna please everybody and this issue sounds so confusing, i'm used to just care about the girl herself, later we worry about her family, now, a muslim girl is completelly different, she fears that someone of her family finds out about us.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
When I said that if u become Muslim and u convert to another religion u deserve death sentences, I did not mean that any other Muslim individual can kill u. This has to be applied by the Islamic government and after a trial and giving a chance to reconsider. The only governments that apply that nowadays are KSA and may be Iran too. If any normal individual did that, it will be considered a crime.
It is like the execution sentences that many governments apply on killers, drug dealers...rapist...etc. Converting to another religion after being a Muslim is a crime too that deserves death in the Islamic laws such as adultery. Why is that, it is a long story. But if u listens to it without being bias u will be convinced and not only that u will be also thinking that this is the right thing to do. The aims of Islam are 5, to maintain one’s mind, soul, body, dignity and belongings (like money). All Islamic regulations are there for that aim.
Again most of you are mixing between Muslims’ acts and Islam, while and as I said before unfortunately the acts of the majority of Muslims nowadays do not represent the true Islam. I understand it is hard for you to believe that. but if any one of you tried to study the Islamic religion seriously and away from the news papers, TV, Muslims' acts and QL. He will discover another thing than the stereotypes and the shallow ideas in his mind.
If you really want to know about Islam, Pls do that through specialized institutes and not here.
I'm confuse!
Should I enter, or should I accept?
If I enter, it means, I could walk out.
if I accept, I can't enter, It means that you are already inside.
Too much tribalism in the enter or the accept issue.
"Don't make me write your name on my TURD List!"
"So, you've decided to accept Islam. All praise is due to God. But maybe you're not sure how to enter Islam. Maybe you've heard different things, like "You have to dress this way," or "You have to do it at a mosque." Insha'Allah, here you'll find tips on the best way for you to enter Islam......" more
another
Links in Portuguese :
http://www.islam.org.br/
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/pt/ih_books/pt_woman_in_islam.pdf
http://www.islamhouse.com/s/9737
http://www.islam.com.br/
http://www.alfurqan.pt/
http://www.sbmrj.org.br/
Hashimo: Thanks for your words. I'm not muslim but i would never impose such a thing to my wife, i belive in freedom, if my wife decides a path, i'll be with her all the time, i'll convert because i love her and don't want her to have problems with her familly.
I also would like to add that i have several muslim friends and that they are as good, friends, as someone with any other religion, what matters is the people not the religion ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Slow down Platoa, it's not racism that you can't marry a muslim girl. It's only that the man being the head of the family MIGHT impose his belief on her or prevent her from practicing hers. So why is it ok the other way round? A muslim man is not allowed to impose his religion on anybody so he won't impose it on his non- muslim wife. Hence such a marriage won't lead to someone having to leave his beliefs. And if you don't believe in Islam, then don't convert just for a girl.
And about killing, it is only permitted in self defence. So please don't take the all too common view these days that muslims kill with impunity. There have always been Kamikazes in every culture, and islam doesn't condone such behaviour in principle. But in the end it's not a must, it's a right to defend yourself. Feel free to give up that right when you're looking down the barrel of your enemy's semi automatic ;)
Peace.
Olaniran, i don't criticise them, please do note, if i don't convert my girlfriend will loose familly if she marries me and it wont be considered valid in Morrocco, and when i say i'll convert but wont be a religious person several muslim do exactly the same, just that i prefer to be honest and say i don't care about religion, there's something called freedom of choice and that can't be changed, it doesn't matter what you call it, will always be a crime.
It's already bad enough that a muslim girl can't marry a non muslim ( this is considered a form of racism ), now not respecting others freedom is unaceptable, you may kill the body but not the soul.
The replies i receive about how easy it is for a muslim to kill another human being are only showing me and i velive everybody else that Islam is not a love religion but based on fear and hate, then come complain that you are descriminated, someone tries to build bridges between cultures, religions and social life and the reply i got is you are not good enough or if u change opinion you get killed, and these guys call themselfs muslims? No, no one that takes a human life as easy can be considered a true muslim, because you are offending God/Allah with your actions, but people have been so brainwashed on those countries that they aren't anylonger aware of the real world, if you are truelly a muslim, than you cannot kill another human being, it is said pretty clear at Qur'am:
"Rest assured that Believers (Muslims), Jews, Christians and Sabians - whoever
believes in Allah and the Last Day and performs good deeds - will be rewarded by
their Lord; they will have nothing to fear or to regret.[62] 2:[62]"
Or it also may have opposite meanings?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Let me be honest with you from my own point of view........I am a christian but i think the muslims are very nice people they are very tolerant and brotherly i just found out recently as i am trying to come to Qatar all the muslims i have met along the way are very nice and helpful {QL} the only time you would get into trouble is if you are not straight forward with yourself and if you are a liar then i think islam would not work for you MY FRIEND THERE ARE SEVERE CONSEQUENCES love or no love!!!!
Platoa, there is one true way to God. He choses the best human being of any given time to convey that path. So prophets act upon God's guidance and DO NOT make mistakes. And they certainly do not contradict themselves. You mix up general laws with specific laws when you say "thou shalt not kill". There are many people who fought against the prophets and their messages because it was harming their interests. After all, revelation came in times of injustice and tyranny in order to re establish justice and equality. So a confrontation between God's followers and oponents is bound to happen at a certain point. When that happens "thou shalt not kill" is preceeded by "fight back against those who wage war against you".
As for how to worship God, He chose His prophet to set the example of how He wants us to worship Him. Yes, He knows what is inside us but He gives us a chance to prove it so that when we come to judgement we can backup our claim by what we did during our life. And in islam, belief isn#t just words, it must be followed by action.
Eco-savvy: Are you aware that i don't live on an islamic country?
Here who kills in name of religion is a murder as anyone that kills someone else, being a monotheist, having been blessed with the gift of being able to talk with the spirits of the dead, i may see the world with different eyes from those that follow books sayings literally, like i said and also read on a site, Allah sees all and he'll decide if i was that wrong, no one else has that right, by judging a man by what they imagine he is, replacing the beloved God/Allah as a judge is a sin, not to mention that God/Allah said, "you shall not kill".
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
5- Once you became Muslims you can not go back or convert to any other religion. If you did so you deserve death sentence.
You want to get yourself killed.......for the sake of love
better dont revert, islam is not for Romeos and juliets
dont wait till you meet our lord...or if we givent the chance to meet? once there,theres no turning back. its either heaven or hell
continue to search untill u find the truth.the truth is here to find and practice, up above is the recompense.
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
3sure: Probably, i'm only a mortal, 100% trueth only when i meet God/Allah directly :) :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
EG I appreciate your answer just to remind you to say "Allah knows best" because you say 100% correct.
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
Platao you're halfway to the truth...yalla embrace Al- Islam and study sunnah...there you will know the connection or the link between Allah, prophets and us.
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
EG: Thanks for your explanation, think it was one of the best i received :)
As i have been saying Good/Bad can be found anywhere, any religion, anyone that thinks the opposite is just trying to fool himself.
Ray99b: Yeaps, i agree with you, is more important what God sees that what we show to other mortals on our planet, it's usually said that you can lie everybody except yourself and God, by this i mean, God ain't ambiguous but people are.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Unfortunately this is the LAW we are fouling ourselves with, There are many non Muslim people who are closer to god as per Islam value than many others who they are “Muslim” However all you have to do is to go to an Islamic court and register your marriage there they will tell you what to do. I think all you have to do is saying “Ashahadi AN LA ILLAHA ILLA ALLAH and MOHAMAD RASOUL ALLAH” أشهد أن لا إله إلاَّ الله و أشهد أن محمد رسول الله
"I bear witness that there is no god except for God (Allah), and Muhammad is the messenger of God."'
Good luck and Congratulation
That most of the people how are discussing this are not Muslims and even the Muslims are not so sure about what they r talking. So, let me explain some facts that are 100% correct:
1- There is difference between the Islamic rules and the social ones. Legalizing the marriage is a social requirement to organize the society but not an Islamic one.
2- Muslim women ARE NOT allowed to marry Non-Muslims men. This is Islamic mandatory rule and not only a legal or social one. So, even if the laws allow Muslims women to marry non-Muslims. This marriage is obsolete islamicaly and is considered adultery and not marriage. No need to mention that adultery is forbidden in Islam and in this particular case it deserves death sentence.
3- Mr. Platao, If you said "ash'hado enho la ellah alla allah wa anna Mohamed rasolo allah" = “I testify that no god except allah and Mohamed is his prophet”, then you are officially become Muslim. Legalizing that is not required by Islam it is required by the social laws only and just do it the usual way as per your country of residence.
4- If you took shahada as mentioned above. We as Muslims MUST treat you as normal Muslim. EVEN if we ARE 100% sure that you are doing this to get married only. You know why? Cuse we believe that Allah has his own ways and every thing happening in this universe by his OWN will. you did not choose to become Muslim by your own free will as you may think. Allah chose you to do so and what is in your heart is between you and him only.
5- Once you became Muslims you can not go back or convert to any other religion. If you did so you deserve death sentence.
6- I can sense from your words that you are some how a religious person. Iam sure when u study Islam well you will become a better Muslim. You will find answers for any doubts / questions you may ever have. I do believe you will guide your wife to be a good Muslims as well. I have seen this case happened before.
7- MY advice, even if you are not sure about it in ur heart yet, do not wait take the shahada, get married and try to be a good Muslim step by the step.
8- FOR ALL OF NON-Muslims, you have to know that unfortunately, there is a GREAT difference between the real Islamic religion and the MUSLIMS’s acts nowadays. DO NOT judge Islam b by the Muslims acts.
Thanks
Gypsy/Southland: thanks :)
Would like to add that if i would be as religious as some people that prey every day and go mosque/church/sinagogue, i would get flamed by hearing some insults, but God has tought me to love and, metaphorically, to give the other face if slapped.
For me, all human is equal, don't care their religion, status, race, economical, social issues, we are all brothers and should love each other like that. :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Monotheism is the religion of beliving only in God, as a perfect being that loves all his "Children", God is love, when you love you please God, all profets are considered as mere mortals that as any Human had contradictory thoughts, afterall, only God/Allah is perfect, there's no holly book in Monotheism, there's no convertion or reconvertion once that before any profet, there was already God and he a perfect being doesn't contradict himself, while, prophets as imperfect beings as any human
do mistakes and can even contradict themselfs, a good example are Mohamed and Moses, God said :
"You shall not kill", but both killed other humans just because of a matter of faith, what perfect father would ask an imperfect father to punish his children?
Not that both profets aren't truelly prophets but due to their human imperfect nature they may have missed that part that Jesus Christ later, in case of Moses, said about loving each other as he had loved, but even Jesus sounds contradictory according to the persons that wrote the 3 Holly Books.
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Hashimo:
In the pillars of Islam, 2 leave me some doubts.
2)To pray five times a day as taught by Muhammed
Are you sure that he meant prey and not talk to God?
God only knows that you belive him if you prey?
4)To fast the month of Ramadan
Why would a perfect being ask his followers such a sacrifice once that he knows all we think and do and the reasons why we do something.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
I guess that's why the world is not on its true axis, nothing is equal :P
platao just curious about your so called monotheistic belief, waht is that? not muslim, not x'tian nor jews? is their any new one now?
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
Dear Platao. Islam is interpreted as being the relegion of submission to the one and only God, the Almighty Creator of the universe we live in who sent a chain of prophets to mankind all preaching the same theological message of monotheism. As a muslim, we believe in the prophethood of all previous prophets including Moses and Jesus. The only difference is in accepting the legislation that is set forth in each subsequent revelation, the latest being that which is in the Quran, as a way of life. If you read a bit more about Islam, you will find that the teachings of Prophet Muhamed are not very different from what Moses or Jesus taught. So if you accept that there is only one God who is the unique Creator of this universe and to whom we will all answer after death, and if you accept that Muhammed conveyed the last message from Him to mankind, then you are a muslim.
The five basic pillars of worship are:
1) To bear witness that there is no god worthy of worship other than the sole Creator of the universe and that Muhammed is His last messenger
2)To pray five times a day as taught by Muhammed
3)To pay charity to the poor
4)To fast the month of Ramadan
5)To make pilgrimage once in your life to Mecca if you can afford it.
The six pillars of faith are:
1)To belive in God alone as being the sole Creator and Sustainer of the universe
2)To belive in His Angels
3)To belive in ALL His prophets
4)To belive in ALL Holy Books revealed by HIM
5)To believe in the Day of Judgement
6)To belive in destiny
That's a brief description of Islam from what I know and what I have read and practiced over the years. I wish you the best of luck and feel free to ask any more questions and I will try to help you in answering them if I can.
The main reason i ask here is because i wanna hear the common muslim, not the scolars, ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
i really wish you the best you and your girlfriend, and I suggest that you check the Islamic Cultural Center before, try to ask questions to understand. And believe me you will find very good answers.May God bless your marriage and be filled with joy and peace
Yesterday i was advised to check http://www.islamonline.net/ and found out a very interesting line about my situation.
"Dear brother in Islam, thanks a lot for your question which reflects your care to have a clear view of the teachings of Islam. Allah commands Muslims to refer to people of knowledge to become well acquainted with the teachings of Islam in all aspects of life.
First of all, it should be clear that a Muslim should seek a righteous spouse for marriage. Religion and good character should be the top concern of every Muslim when looking for a spouse. This is compatible with the Prophet's guidance: "A woman is married for four things: her wealth, her family status, her beauty, and her religion. So you should marry the religious woman; (otherwise) you will be a loser" (Al-Bukhari)."
I wonder if by good character he means beautty?
If not, then by choosing a wife with good character i'm already pleasing God/Allah, or you guys think i'm wrong?
"Islam does not teach us that we marry only within our ethnic circle. Islam treats all of humanity as a single family. Allah says in the Qur'an: [O Mankind, We have created you from a single pair of a male and female and made you nations and tribes in order for you to recognize one another; verily the noblest of you in the sight of Allah is the one who is most conscious of Him] (Al-Hujurat 49:13)."
Guess this confirms my sight as monotheist, God/Allah love all his children :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
How come the million or so times a girl has asked how to convert for the sake of her husband everyone just says Mashalla and Mabrook and directs her to islam online or an Iman, but when a guy does the same thing he get's told he's pussy whipped, that he's not doing it for the right reasons, etc.?
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A Muslim man can marry any woman of the "books" as Islam protects the rights of the woman, no matter the faith. Since this is not the case for Christianity or Judaism, Muslim women are only permitted to marry a Muslim man. Correct?
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1123996015624&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE
On divorce, all faiths allow it (save Catholicism)?
Basics of becoming a Muslim:
http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/Muslim.htm
Platao36 - May you be blessed with a life of happiness with your new spouse.
Marriage and Conversion
Then again, some other people discover Islam through the course of their lives. Perhaps they go somewhere, meet someone, or come across a book. And still there are others who fall in love, marry a Muslim, and through the process of time discover Islam. All the possible ways of finding Islam are indications of the mercy of Allah and of how He guides those who wish to be guided.
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1165994067300&pagename=Zone-English-Discover_Islam%2FDIELayout
Who is the scape goat? Is it Blind love for a woman, the religion, the girlfriend, Islam or the conversion?
I'm dazzled and frazzled with his decision.
"Don't make me write your name on my TURD List!"
Converting to Islam in a mariage or love issue isn't a faith, but Islam is submission, and submission is a way of life and responsibility. Absolutely accepting Islam is the most precious gift that one is received.
another thing is that guidance can't be obtained neither from science not mystical experience, so consult with your local Imams, i hope that your life should be a succesfull one, and you are fortunate one as well since all your sins will be washed away.
May Allah keep us with Islam.
Life is a school, people are students and the days are teachers.
Well if you are converting for Love without beleif then you are actually are not converting.
I need some help because i don't know how to treat a muslim girl, anyone thinking i'm being weak is because they never loved someone as much as i do
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Lol, ever heard that love is blind?
:)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Islam is not only religion; it is complete way of life.
You should study and convert to Muslim not for marry but for coming life.
Thanks
Allah may help you.
you'll be fine..believe me..hehehe
thks honey, i'll do :)
Think my girl wants it 4 same reason as you :)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
same story like me and my lovely hubby..nothing bad about muslim or christ..he converted too to marry me. I'm so brainwashed not to marry any other religion..so he converted before we get married.
It sounds more because of love..not because believing..tried open www.islamonline.com you can find all the answer there if you really want to learn abt it.
Its his personal decision...
...The procedures have been mentioned....
Now its up to him .....
........why are you guys trying to stop him from being converted?
jauntie its not ridiculous it is true...just ask your parents why did they baptisised you if you are a x'tian..
there answer suffice mine.
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
jauntie...good one!
Platao36...convert and get it done with!
Everybody replying:
I am a monotheist, i do belive in God, even read that some scholars defend that a monotheist doesn't need to convert to Islam to marry a muslim girl because muslim also believe in God and Jesus, only difference is that they also consider Mohammed as a profet, the main thing is to belive in God/Allah.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Gypsy: Thanks for your support, i'm here to listen to advices.
Jauntie: It was my lunch time, i work, so i couldn't take computer to restaurant ;)
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
If you don't care about whatever your current religion is enough to keep it, than I highly doubt changing will have any impact on your life.
Lets say you were going to marry someone, but they would only do it if you said believed in UFOs. If you don't care about UFO belief enough to dump her over it, you probably didn't care much about it in the first place, therefore changing your opinion will have little effect on your life.
summing up: chicks trump religion every time.
[I]"If you're going to believe in crap than you might as well be living in it"[/I]
"Eco-savvy said Plato why cant she change to ur beliefs ...
its much easier that way. If she loves you then she should bow to ur wishes. Quite outrageous when you bend to girls wishes"
Eco: I was tought to always respect women, bowing to someone's, sometimes is seen as a sacrifice in behalf of someone/something more important.
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Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
It's like going round in circles and up your own backside with these 'debates' lol
he was a 'monotheist' same as Moses, Jesus and Mohammed'?
I was about to look that up (assume it means believer in one God) when I saw it his words had disappeared - or am I mistaken?
Platao hasn't spoken for over one-and-a-half hours. Do I smell a troll?
Anyway, I was about to say that if he is a believer in only one God then I doubt he'd have much problem converting to ANY Godfearing religion.
Oh, and I resent it being said that someone, born of parents who don't follow Islam, is a Muslim from birth. How ridiculous!
la la plz change the track am kinda getting sick of this daily religious issues you dumb heads :?
all you do have faith right so thats enough
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I didn't specify WHO was being harsh, I just said I thought some of the answers were harsh.
No Eco I don't think you were being harsh at all. Although he did say that her parents would hate her if she converted.
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not him, so am I harsh?
I'm not going to get into this argument hunk, suffice it to say, I was not born muslim.
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me my self did not show any harsness i showed him the way..
and for you gypsy were you being baptised or what so ever? if not then you are still in the state of fitra or muslim...but oonly thing is that you did not yet accept islam...
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
I'm not trying to start an argument, I think people are just being a bit harsh on the guy for converting out of love for his girlfriend rather then belief. Frankly, does it really matter why he converts? It's another number for the statistics.
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well said KE....
the guy asked a simple question and ... anyway, no comments ...
Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. (Gautama Buddha)
I was not born muslim.
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gypsy i presume you said being a born muslim is not a choice? if it is you are right!
but have you notice that a muslim dont have baptismal? simply bec. every child is born is a muslim only their parents makes them so and so by baptism etc.... so if any one from other religion who want to become muslim,actually the right term here should not convertion must be revertion.. means return back to your origin.
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
So would your parents have been accepting if you'd chosen not to follow Islam?
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Gypsy, I agree with u. I was born a muslim, but I didn't choose to follow it until and unless I was satisfied that (shi'ite secotor of Islam) was the right path.
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Sorry thought u were a guy. Well either way I am being wise and your explanation is unappropriated and misleading. U make it seem like Islam is a game.
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So if him converting to Islam to get married is so bad, why is it ok to be born Muslim? Surely nobody should be muslim unless they absolutely are doing it because of their belief in God.
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I am muslim by birth and female
just go to the closest Mosque in your country, they will ask you to repeat 3 sentenses. then you are. well, there will be a lot learning if you find yourself lost in the marriage and i think you should study the way you like to really accept the relegion. best of luck.
it's difficult ...to accept something that you never thought you have to
Eco-savvy, ur conception is 100% pure bullsh*t. I think you chose your religion not to follow the god, but to follow your girl friend or wife. May be thats how you worship in your world. That doesn't work in real world.
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its much easier that way. If she loves you then she should bow to ur wishes. Quite outrageous when you bend to girls wishes
One more thing, religion is not a game. Don't play with it, if u convert to islam just for the f* of it or to get married to your girl friend, then dont bother. U r not doing it for god, u r doing it for her.
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Plato..You dont need to learn Arabic, personally i think you should read more about Islam and in particular marriage in Islam, in English so that you can understand everything, then later learning to read Arabic if you wish to do so..
As for being 100%per cent muslim, i dont think anyone is, as muslims we strive to be as much as we can and ask guidance from Allah to guide us to the Quran and Sunnah..
I dont think you are being disrespectful, your a non muslim who found yourself in a situation you are trying to solve in the best way you can, personally i find it disrespectful when muslims find technicalites in religion to get what they want, fully understanding Islam, like in the other thread with the father and the guy who are trading a young girl in the name of islam..
Why do u have to convert?, if she can choose to have a boy friend the she has to have the tendency to accept him with his religion. If she was a real muslim, u wouldn't be with her. So conversion doesn't really matter my friend.
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Inshallah all humanity will be come muslim! in any way any manner in any reason anytime anywhere.
All with same concept of worship to the One true God.
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
so back to your question... You first need a total conviction that "Theres no other God worthy of worship but ALLah Alone and that Muhammad is his Messenger" of course there must be blend of sincerity and knowledge.and thats only you can tell that, then get imam or muslims as witness. thats it!
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
Islam is a religion NOT a cover-up
Please completely understand the intensity and responsibility of your decision..then go for the best ..
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
go to your nearest mosque and consult with the imam there, he will lead you through the procedures.
Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!
- Jalaluddin al-Rumi
I thought you are in Qatar. Well as suggessted earlier you can browse through the web. But NOT every website will give you the right idea about Islam. Check this one out its a certified website about Islam (plenty are there actually)
http://www.islamweb.net/
There is Discover Islam tab as well as New Muslim stories as well. Besides, you can get a FATWA (Islamic opinion) from any religious scholar, rather going to different people asking for things and getting confused. Its always better to ask the Islamic Scholars.
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
Nadt: Thanks for your kind words.
I don't mean to be desrespectfull towards any religion, and i agree it's more a technical problem that a true Islam issue, according to Islam law, my gf isn't truelly a muslim, but maybe i change afterwards.
"Qui sera sera
what ever will be will be
futur ain't ours to see ;)"
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
but who we are to prevent you from entring into same faith...theres no compulsion in religion anyway...it is open to any one, perhaps or maybe now you dont see its value but sooner....
guidance is from above not from any one.....
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
islam is not a visa for any reason... its away of life you have to live with it.
convertion into Islam is as easy as abc...but thats comes from the heart out of belief..
Islam dont need quantity what counts is quality..its not just utteration its about practice and submission to will of Almighty Allah.
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
There will be harmony, because i love her, i would never ask her to change religion, i do think that all religions are beautiful, Humankind is the one who spoils them.
For love, the most amazing things can happen, i'm starting to read the Qur'am, do i need to leurn arabic?
May i be a racional muslim or i must belive everything it's written in Qur'am?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Plato, it is important that people convert to Islam because they believe rather than love, but its seems that your girlfriend isnt into Islam anyway and this is a technicality you both need to get through.
Its not up to us to judge why hes converting, i think its between him and god. Theres been many cases where people have converted for love and consequently have gone on to embrace Islam, and others havent. We dont know whats in peoples heart..
Plato, i suggest you go to some Islamic websites and research about procedures on how to convert for marriage by scholars, you will get an accurate answer there..Good luck..
I guess if you really love that girl you should also like her religion other wise you 2 will not be happy..
perhaps take some times understanding islam... read thouroughly if after studying it still youre not convince then leave her...find others that suit your belief..in marriage there should be harmony in the home...
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
as brit said, if you are not doing this for yourself, than you better not, by you taking a Shahada will not make you a muslim, you have to be a believer.....tell your GF to give you sometime, look and research and learn about Islam, at the end you might actually want to convert for yourself rather than just so you could marry her...
Britexpad: My gf told me that's the only way we could marry.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Anahmed, I ain't in Qatar, i'm in Portugal, just wanted you guys to tell me what are the requesitions, about being a good muslim, all i can say is that i'm converting for love not because i belive it, it's the law at Morocco that says that if i don't convert, marriage ain't valid, for Love i can make some sacrifices.
Muslim brothers/sisters, don't feal as an ofense that i don't belive truelly on it but it also hurts me that my girlfriend family may give problems or even ignore her if i don't convert
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
You can visit the AWQAF (Islamic Affairs) department in Al-Sadd next to Arab Bank and Honda Showroom. They will guide you with all the necessary details, material and procedure. BTW I will suggest that you go through the Islamic teachings really well before embracing the religion. May Allah SWT help and guide us all to the right path.
Allah knows the best
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
If your only reason fo converting is to "legalize" the marriage , then I would suggest that you do not do so!