are these sister religions???
By realsomeone •
Comparison of Religious Beliefs
Islam
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Judaism
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Christianity
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type of theism |
strict monotheism
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strict monotheism
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Trinitarian monotheism
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ultimate reality
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one God
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one God
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one God
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names of God
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Allah (Arabic for God)
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Yahweh, Elohim
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Yahweh, the Holy Trinity
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other spiritual beings |
angels, demons, jinn
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angels and demons
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angels and demons
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revered humans |
prophets, imams (especially in Shia)
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prophets
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saints, church fathers
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identity of Jesus |
true prophet of God, whose message has been corrupted
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false prophet
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Son of God, God incarnate, savior of the world
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birth of Jesus |
virgin birth
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normal birth
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virgin birth
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death of Jesus |
did not die, but ascended into heaven during crucifixion
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death by crucifixion
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death by crucifixion
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resurrection of Jesus |
denied
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denied
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affirmed
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second coming of Jesus |
affirmed
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denied
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affirmed
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divine revelation |
through Muhammad, recorded in Qur'an
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through Prophets, recorded in Bible
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through Prophets and Jesus (as God Himself), recorded in Bible
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view of sacred text |
inspired, literal word of God, inerrant in original languages
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views vary
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inspired, some believe inerrant in original languages
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human nature |
equal ability to do good or evil
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two equal impulses, one good and one bad
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"original sin" inherited from Adam - tendency towards evil
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means of salvation |
correct belief, good deeds, Five Pillars
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belief in God, good deeds
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correct belief, faith, good deeds, sacraments (some Protestants emphasize faith alone)
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God's role in salvation |
predestination
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divine revelation and forgiveness
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predestination, various forms of grace
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good afterlife |
eternal paradise
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views vary: either heaven or no afterlife
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eternal heaven
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bad afterlife |
eternal hell
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views vary: either eternal Gehenna, reincarnation, or no afterlife
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eternal hell, temporary purgatory (Catholicism)
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view of fellow Abrahamic religions |
Jews and Christians are respected as "People of the Book," but they have wrong beliefs and only partial revelation.
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Islam and Christianity are false interpretations and extensions of Judaism.
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Judaism is a true religion, but with incomplete revelation. Islam is a false religion.
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RELIGION won't save you from the evils of the world...it's your FAITH in HIM.
My 2 cents worth of view in this matter is: irregardless whether a person practices/follows Christianity, Islam or Judaism, the FACT that there is only ONE GOD that EVERYONE believes in...one should respect the other's beliefs as it is.
"MINE is BETTER than YOURS" mentality is kinda shallow for me as this creates disagreement.
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What is the sun but what might even be smaller than an atom size of an object in our perception when you consider the universe that we know of...funny thing is 70% of the universe we KNOW OF has a material called dark matter and what is the dark matter??? lets just say plainly we dont actually know ANYTHING about it than it just exists!!....Bottom line we are nobody to question the existence of GOD...we are nobody to say we have science when our science cant go a little beyond what meets the eye..if materialism and science is what atheism is based on i hope to god we understand where we really stand not where we like to stand and another thing....we all say theirs only one god lets just stick to praying one and worshipping one and i believe we are all of the same religion then....
here in the US is 7:00p.m. and i like the sun. not many rules goin' on there. LOL
lol helenann, I spose these are the only interesting threads at this godforsaken hour!lol The Sun has my vote!.....
"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid."
- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
do ya think i'm stalkin' ya now? i do agree though at this point. worship the sun publicly and keep the rest in your heart. V & XX
Lets just all worship the sun and be done with this silliness..........
"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid."
- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
... to the different sects of Islam! or Christianity! and not just a comparison of the different religions!
If people focused more on what they had in common wouldn't the world be a great place.
All religions teach tolerance, including Islam and it's Qu'ran.
Unfortunately, people just like to make out that what they believe is right and no-one else can be!
What does that tell us about you and your tolerence of others?
I know you think that the things you do and say are right, so I doubt you'll give what I just said any real thought! Shame really!
I'm not sure exactly but they follow the Pope, christians do not....they worship the Virgin Mary more than christians.....thats sort of basic but they are different......and they have priests and we have vicars and priests can't marry and have choirboys as companions........
"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid."
- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
Respect each other's beliefs.... In the END we are all gonna be united with GOd
No, no they are way way different salax.....trust me!
"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid."
- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
Makes one wonder if its all worth it.......Realsomeone where did you obtain that informtion? Try Catholisism it probably nearer to Islam than Christianity!
"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid."
- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
myth buster... and here it is .....we sour above such childish squabbles ......we will go forth as you fight about how many angels you can fit on the head of a pin!
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
ITs Religion....
its a way of life, not life...use the teachings and live...
correct me if im wrong but , no religion tells u to look down on another...
there is no right religion and no wrong religion....
and realsome can put a sock in it...
there are people who practice religion wrongly no matter which one it is...
whether u consider the women in afghanistan that were opressed by the taliban, to the paedophile priests in america, to the jews in isreal...
all religion teaches u to be at peace with one another and how to live ur life...
my neighbors are muslims, christians, aethists and hindus..i remember we even had a Jew neighbor once (they have moved to Isreal) ..and so far IF we ever had a disagreement we have never used religion to backup any argument.....
Its all the same ... Yahweh, Lord, Allah...
REligion is preached by one man to another...
so there is a high chance of it being upto the persons own interpretation to record what he has understood..all men are different and all men make mistakes.
The Muslim, Jew , Christian scholars dont agree on everything printed.
and with what authority can u say that the Bible is polluted...what baloney....
and if the Christians belive in the Trinity ...so what...
does that make a Muslim pray any less...
and YEAH WHY should the Trinity be explained to anyone...
have u tried to explain why u have Sunni and Shia?
Try explaining which among them is right...They go on fighting among themselves...
If the Quran is so pure..then why the confusion????!!!
EXPLAIN THAT...
so the only difference I found in both the religions (Islam & Christianity) is that one believes Jesus (Esa) was the messenger of God sent by god to the womb of Marry (Marium) miraculously and others that he was a Son of God... is this the fact???
“Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men.”
Martin Luther King.
1st one being that Christians believe:
Judaism is a true religion, but with incomplete revelation. Islam is a false religion.
That's just plain hogwash....We respect other religions..we may not believe as you do, but I for one, do not think your religion is false.
2nd: Yahwah is a very old name for God, which most Christians don't use much any more...we have many more for Him: Our Father, God, and the list goes on and on...
3rd: Jesus didn't claim to be talking as God...he gave His word, as his son, to spread the belief. He was the SON of God...never claimed to BE God..and we don't think of Him as such...but in our beliefs, He is the SON of God.
4th: God role in salvation...I've never believed in predestination. A few protestant religions do..such as Presbyterians, but salvation comes from the life you lead and the deeds you do while on this Earth. Christians believe you need to ask God's forgiveness for any wrong doings...so where does predestination come in if you chose how you live you life???
You also stated that:
"true that means they are not sister religions since these people are not practising the original religion... and specially Christians what they are believing is almost atheism therefore, Islam & Christianity are not sisters."
Hmm...WHERE did you get that idea that Christians are believing is almost athesism???? Most Christians live the Word in mind, deed and thought. That would be like me saying that most Muslims with the life they lead, are almost atheists also...the only one who can judge who is a good and religious person is God Himself...so are you putting yourself in the same level with Him???
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.
--Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
It seems the discussions are getting heated up. Well let me give you my version.....
Religion is religion. Like a language. Some speak french, others English and others Chineese and so on. They are different languages, but they are still languages. Correct?
A religion is a religion. Montheism means that we believe in ONE GOD.
God has sent many messengers to us. To let us know what we should do and what we should not do. The first message was the Tables, which was a very limited edition. It was like the first manuals that accompanied our TVs in the 60's. However if you look at the manuals we get with our TV now you can see a big difference in size and contents. That is basically what God has done with the Quran.
God noticed that the messages that were sent thru Abraham, Moses, Jesus and all the other Prophets, some better know than others and there were MANY more,were being changed. This was either done bythe people who relayed the message had forgotten an essential part, misunderstood the main issues or because it suited the rulers/church of that time. Also do not forget the old beliefs and/or customs of the countries, the strong hold the church/temple had over the people. All this along with the limited "instructions/guidance" from the messengers made God send us the last prophet, Mohammed PBUH. Mohammed then, upon instruction from the Angel Gabriel/ Jebriel, had the whole of the message written down into which is called the Book/Quran. One of the stipulations is that every Quran should have the original text in it so that no word/meaning can be changed.
If you read the Quran you will learn a lot about the 3 religions of the "BOOK". Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
I am an ex Christian and must say I learned more about Christianity in the Quran than I had done previously eventhough I spent many years in convent schools.
But because the Quran is such a beautiful book, with so much wisdom, so much good advice and so much information I, after reading it immediately decided to become a muslim.
So again to repeat my message, the 3 religions of the "book" are, or should be the same. But along the way the message has had it's wires crossed.
Aisha-Taweela
Christianity..3 in 1? confusing as you say..yes it is but this one of the mysteries. as Christian i believe it by faith. these religions have differences but we all believe in one God. and there is no wrong religion. we just have to respect it and focus what we believe that is close to purity.
I think I've discovered the secret of life - you just hang around until you get used to it. ~Charles Schulz
Well, the answer to all the controversies lies in the last column of the sheet…
Islam believes in Christianity because it’s a revised part of the same religion and Christianity does not believe in Islam because they are not changed from the path they have been following before Islam…
Now the point is to follow a religion or listen to your mind…
I must say it in Abraham Lincoln’s words…
When I do good, I feel good and When I do bad, I feel bad and that is my religion…
So my advise to you all is to listen to your mind your heart and your soul, do what is favorable for humanity … your good and bad deeds will be counted coz Hell and heaven is mentioned in both the religions..
“Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men.”
Martin Luther King.
Which raises the big question in my mind. If Islam was necessary because of the corruptions of the earlier monotheistic religions, then wouldn't the final monotheistic religion, B'hai be the ultimate word to correct the earlier corruptions of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism?
The chart attached it was taken from
http://readprogram.net/Documents/E1.3%20Comparison%20Chart%20of%20Christianity,%20Islam%20and%20Judaism.doc
Good job, my advice to buy 1 way ticket and ask for exit permit :)
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Eli Eli Lema Sabachthani?
Exactly Salax
nice to do buisness with you
Peace
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
No problem.
Just get involved on this forum and you will find out.
Oh and only the insecure attack, those at peace with their religion have no need to attack others, - usually :D
Peace
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
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she did not say 'lost' from that, but 'FREE' from ALL THAT
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
thanks, but i just needed to know more of how u think, sorry for pm thing i thought if i asked u to answe me here, some might attach us both :)
i have to catch home now... anyway nice converstation with you Alexa, finally God did not subscribed different messages for the people this will confuse.
God's message is clear and its one. and who ever God(Allah) guides is guided and who ever he lets stray is gone. May Allah put us all in the correct path towards peacefull world and better hereafter..Amen.
LOL I won't pm you if it's all the same thanks.
How long have you got ! :D
Short answer is 'Life, the Universe and Everything.'
Peace
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
What you said is correct except the "arrogant"
"Seconadly, yes of course i believe mine is correct and i say this because i read the words of God everyday and for me the path forward is clear."
This is a bit of an arrogant statement to make.....You are basically saying Islam is right , all other religions, beliefs are false and not worthy, including mine and Adey' s beliefs !
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It's like this, an analogy:
My bike is made up of many parts - frame, handlebars, wheels, chain etc
let's say it has 20 parts - I still have 1 bike not 20 bikes.
And I can't ride my bike to the shop with only the frame.
So christians believe in ONE god not 3 different gods making up one god. god is god and he/she/it is one, but is omnipotent ie can be everywhere at the same time.
(of course I don't believe that for one moment but that's a different topic)
Hope that clears that up.
Peace
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
adey, can u tell me why u don't believe in god existence?, PM me why please.
Alexa there is nothing more important then to abide the laws defined by God and the world is already chaos now because people have established false laws by rejecting the call of God.
Seconadly, yes of course i believe mine is correct and i say this because i read the words of God everyday and for me the path forward is clear.
The words of human beings are clear and its meaningless to say i believe one God while not reflecting on the laws he defined. this is what is broken the western society.
I was in general conversation with a muslim colleague (though she prays etc she described herself as not overly religious) today and she asked me if I had been to the new church?
I said "I never go to church, I'm not a christian."
She then asked " but you believe in god, right?"
I replied "No I don't"
Her reply was really strange, she said " oh so you are free from all that"
Strange that she should choose the word 'free', don't you think?
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Why is My statement wrong Adey? dont Christians have 3 in 1 can any Christian Scholar explain this... even the christians are confused about this.
Alexa what you said is right but our goals are defined by God and he defined also our way to achieve this goals that is why he sent us prophets to show us the right way... so now we cant say we can do it on our own defined way freely... we cannot break the law.
Your last statement is SO wrong.
Do better next time :)
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
i mean reach... secondly what Christians believe is not infact one God but its three for the thinking mind.
It does matter Alexa, The One God has described himself one correct way to reahc and maintain relationship with him... that is why religions evolved over the time.
even if it is copy paste (as t_cofee) suggesting, is still a good information
thanks for posting.
No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong - Albert Einstein
Abu american this is definitely a copy and paste production
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this 3 religion is comes from one men abraham so we all related.
Everybody is right everybody is wrong it depends where you stand.
you are very much welcomed Swissgirl
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intrsting!!
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.
true that means they are not sister religions since these people are not practising the original religion... and specially Christians what they are believing is almost atheism therefore, Islam & Christianity are not sisters.
Quite intresting :)
IF EVERYONE WAS TO TAKE AN EYE FOR AN EYE, THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD'VE BEEN BLIND TODAY - MAHATMA GANDHI
I wonder with the second coming what the new religion would be
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yes, in a way. as muslims we believe bible, gospel and psalms have the same author( Allah) but have been changed over the passage of time,hence no longer authentic. Quran can be called the latest edition by the same author and unaltered.
yea they are ....
first came Judaism (the religion of Noah, Moses, Solomon, David) ,
Then those who believed that Christ was the Messiah became Christians.
Then those Christians who belived in Prophet Muhammed's teachings became Muslims