I also know a lady who was going through similar situation.... they took her to the doctor. The doctor said its right time they took her to the doctor.....if not she might have committed suicide. She got a loving husband and a kid. He takes good care of her. she had no attachment with him or her kid.... she felt that she don’t need to live, her husband was really sad..... he tried to make her happy all possible ways, but nothing made her any better. She was under medication for a long time, but now she is alright. But Doctor said it can happen again and its some chemical change in the brain which cannot be cured by external or material pleasure.
Good that she is ready to see the doctor. All the best for your friend….tell her it’s fully curable and she will be happy and active like before.
I'm so glad she decided to seek help KitKat. In the long run she will realize it's the best thing she ever did. :) If it does turn out to be something serious, like clinical depression or manic depression please feel free to have her PM me, I'm no psychologist, but at least I can let her know she isn't alone. :)
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
No Problem, I guess she needed something more than a few people around her...good for her...and good for you too...I'm sure she has found a good friend in you girl, so take care of her...and keep us posted about how she is turning up...
Wishing her and You all the best...
But anytime if you want a little good time and a few smiles here and there, then go ahead and knock on my door...alright...
All the Best Kitkat...take care and God Bless you or rather your friend too...
I think Gypsy understood what exactly I was trying to explain, I have seen people going through depression in college days, when they fail in exam or when they broke with their bf/gf, that can be cured by Counseling or yoga/meditation etc. but what I see in my friend is much different than that. that’s why I was confused. Keeping someone busy and engaging them in other activities help only for people who are depressed from some disaster happened in their life. As Gypsy said it looks like some kind of chemical change, as you said her family and friends think she is very selfish and she don’t love or care anyone in this world. She don’t make others happy nor want to be part of their happiness
Last night I asked her to read this topic, she is now willing to see a doctor. Thank you all for your comments. I will keep you posted.
KSA, I think the main problem people are having right now is that from what KitKat says this girl isn't suffering from mild depression. If you are cutting yourself off from friends or family, it's alreay passed into severe depression in which case, friends and family will be of no help (except to keep a close eye on her, and see if there comes a point where she should be hospitalized, inshallah that won't happen).
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Sometimes it takes a lot to be talking to stones...or walls...
O well, it did please me as much as it did by not ignoring you...
Take care "BUDDY"...
Maybe there will be some other topic in which we might share a lighter rapport...but seriously, PM, a word of advice, I hope you are a good person (as I have always seen and understood and made of you) who would keep discussions and opinions on people to only the original threads and not make an assumption on me in all further future threads where you might find me right...
That's more like an approach...see there you go, you always don't need to turn to medications, when I said about friends and "Buddies" was also something in relation to that, about developing a bit of a more holistic and "take-it-easy" attitude...rather than wasting your life on one thing...more about moving on...
If it is really extreme, then you might as well see someone who can help you out of it...isn't it PM?????
Seriously, people...what's so wrong in accepting a suggestion that if the depression can be cured with the help of family and friends, then why turn to medication and doctors...
Know what your problem is right first and then see some pro, in a few cases, even the friends can bring you up a big deal...in some situations the same friends can hit you big time and push you down further, I think in cases like this, you need to understand your friends before you approach all ofthem or any of them...
If it is a serious thing, then seek professional help, is something I have already agreed to, and in the first place I never questioned that...
So what's wrong in trying to see if you really need professional help and medication or you could do with a bit of a good -lifting up soul - time...?
Secondly, trust me PM, it takes a lot to have an attitude like mine, and it is always very good to have an approach as I do, it helps a lot, and this person has never mentioned about what type of depression we are talking about, so my automatic response was "To take it Easy", and etc etc ...
Do you have a problem with my attitude or the type of depression...
All I was telling is, if this can be cured with the family and friends get-together, it doesn't warrant for any tablets and pills, if it is more serious (as put forward by GYPSY), then you see a professional...
So what's your problem on my attitude...PM, as mentioned earlier, you need to take it easy on me...'cos my type of attitude can be a lot helpful to many many people in the world, irrespective of the fact that you have encoutered too many people with depression...
PM, if clinical depression can't be cured with a few jokes and a buddy, then go see a Doctor or a professional who could help you out...did I say anything against that, I was just trying to see if there was a lighter way of doing things...
Richard and Gypsy I can't add to your words of wisdom
I totally endorse the running - and have a similar experience to richard. I have never felt worse for it.
Kasarat - i think you are being a little flippant.. sorry but if you ever experience or have a loved one who experiences such extreme depression (God forbid you dont) then there is NO little remark or joke can alleviate the situation.
People ruin their lives over depression if it is that serious then take the pills. Someone dear to me was once perscribed the pills but fought against taking them and went on some retreats... another dear person wrecked their life.
mine repeats too. just the idea that i know world is not really like this and someday soon i ll feel better. it helps me keep going. but if someone is having it for the first time u shud really help.
i didnt have a good treatment. just used pills for long time and got help from university doctor(so little). maybe thats why it keeps on but this time i ll get all my guns with me!! i ve been saving money here for doctors :)
See, such a nice explanation can get a person a little more clarity on situations ofcourse from people who have been through it...
I totally understand with your reasoning...I wasn't making a point Gyps...I was enquiring on your viewpoint...so there is nothing that You need to disagree with me on...
Interesting site of reasoning...
All well then, as I have always said it...depends on the person, the kind of support he or she would recieve from close people, and ofcourse the stage and reason of getting depressed...
Take care all you lovely people, stay safe and stay away from Depression...
Sorry KSA I have to disagree, in many cases, due to sterotypes about depression, and the idea that it's a weakness, most people who aren't educated about it will simply say "Oh it's ok you'll get over it" or "Why are you so upset, you have no reason to be, snap out of it." or actually get angry at them in some cases because they simply don't understand what the person is going through. However this is only my experience with clinical depression, which is usually brought on repeatedly for no reason. In cases of topical depression I think family support might help, but only in mild cases.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Gyps: Good suggestion there, about informing the Doc of other medications...
Richard...Hey buddy, how you doing...anyways just a quick question at both of you, you know at times of depression, don't you possibly think, before considering professional help, it might be advisable to have a word with your dearest ones, just a thought, if it is really out of control, having a pro help you is very much in need...but at the starting stages of depression, what do you think...?
I agree that some people are given pills they don't need. But it's also part of the process. Depression isn't something to play around with and ignore and you should do everything with a doctors permission and under their supervision.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
@ PM: Calling everyone Buddy, is a way not of immature...cos I totally don't comply of the fact that I regard anyone as Sir or Madam, unless if it is called for, maybe I shall regard you as PM, rather than anything or anyone else...
When I said "JOKING it", all I meant was maybe something that could stir up a smile, or a light moment...
Depressions need not always be caused up due to serious reasons, unless in extreme cases...and trust me, self-control, you must be kidding, I'm sure I've a lot of self-control on myself...and seriously, I don't go throwing my mouth on anyone...
Even in this situation, is something that I tried to see from my viewpoint, I might be wrong, but I might also be right...>? What do you think? For every depression, the only cure is medication...? what's your take on that question?
@ Nib: Agreed champ, totally agree on that , and it is your viewpoint, I never told you not to be telling that...and very rightly put that you would try other things before trying out a Doctor, that's the same thing that I was trying to tell...if they're on the verge of ending their lives or such serious things, then maybe yes seeing someone could help...I mean a Doctor... and I have never adhered to the fact that I Must Know everything...I don't take any such stands...
I agree that there is a big difference between clinical depression and topical depression. Mine was due to a reason rather than a chemical depression and the 'cure' that worked for me may not be suitable for everyone.
There is a danger though that people with a topical depression get given drugs that do not help them. I agree that the first thing a person should do is get professional help.
When I was in high school two friends of mine in 12th grade committed suicide due to depression. It is almost intolerably sad to think about it and how perhaps they could have been helped. There is no shame in depression it is a serious an illness as cancer. Those affected, owe it to themselves to get professional help.
Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary. Mahatma Gandhi
OOO piece of advise to KitKat! If you're friend does go to the doctor make sure she lets the doctor know what other medication (if any) she is on, as some medication (especially birth control pills) can counteract with the anti-depressents and make the situation worse.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
why shud i come on u? i m just telling u my experiences. these wud hardly work on someone depressed if u tell these to him.
and u shudnt compare this to other sicknesses. u cant know if it is harder or easier.
and for me.. yes there shud be ways before getting medicines. but not everybody is on that early stage on their depression or whatever they have so it can be really life saving.
maybe there is a different viewpoint in everyone's reasoning...
For me, I truly believe in Family and Friends rather than medication, so I'm reasoning against a Doc, but surely there are cases that can't be cured through some fun, for that Docs are there...
so every reason has its own plus and minus...
End of the day...Stay safe people, avoid getting into difficult spots...life is tough but it can be beautiful...
So Get well to the Victim here...and stay safe, positive and keep yourself busy in something, so at times that you get bogged down, you have something else to remove that extra bit of time from yourself...
Well I've had friends, that when I've been severly depressed (and told them so) have told me that I'm a horrible selfish person who should go jump off a cliff. So I REALLY don't recommend turning to your friends who may not understand what you are going through. More often then not they make the situation worse.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
See girl, I didn't tell anyone not to approach a Doctor, all I'm saying is...as much as I again agree to a few things that depression can be a lot difficult to deal with...
Maybe getting more busier can remove the time for yourself, and show something else to do...'cos not doing anything can hit you quite hard...
Maybe Richard again was an exception...cos what he did was, as much as told by a Doc, wasn't something that was cured through medication, rather it was done through more sort of getting busier by the moment they say, and it got him all freshened up...
Come on people, I never said that date a girl is a solution,
And if the reason for your depression is your family, then Doc Help You...and I'm sure not everyone out there would actually make fun of you when you are low and hit down...
I personally believe Richard, after some personal experiences myself, that pills will only really work if you have clinical depression or manic/depression or something that is reoccuring. If you become depressed for a reason, such as divorce, getting fired, the loss of a loved one, etc, then I find they dont' work as well, because you're problem is not a chemical imbalance. In those cases I would recommend running, excercise, or even just talking to a psychologist. However, I can only speak for myself, and I think the bottom line is going to a doctor first.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Well as much as I agreee to the fact that a Doc is well qualified to prey it open, why go to that extreme when you can always fight it yourself...is a question that I'm putting forward...
Look at this buddy, there are certainly other things in life which are more tougher to deal with, like any disease or stuff like that related to unfit health conditions, for those yes Docs are quite helpful, but these things to a large extent are self-implicated, then why not try to cure them through Self-diagnosis (avoding the use of tablets or any such artificial mechanisms...)
"cos any situation is something that is brought upon by an invidual themselves"
Sorry KSA, but that's not true, in cases of clinical depression or manic depression it can be brought on by nothing at all, much less the individual themselves. It's a chemical imbalance in the brain, not a situation that causes it.
Secondly, most people find it easier (after making the initial step of going to the doctor) to talk to the doctor about their depression. Doctors are less judgemental and less intimidating then family or friends who you might be afraid will shun you or not understand your feelings (or who think the answer is have fun and go out and date someone). Also your family and friends may be a huge part of the reason you're depressed.
Once again, I'm glad those things worked for you, but I think you are the exception rather than the rule.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
a few years ago. I won't bore you with the reasons but I went to a doctor who prescribed me with anti-depressants. These made me feel a lot worse and very tired and lethargic. I told the doctor that I didn't want to take them and I wanted to try something else. He suggested running. I did this starting out at 3 miles three times a week. Pretty soon I was up to 25 miles a week and after two months I was running 40 miles a week.
Apart from getting very lean and fit, I started to feel great. It was a great way to get away from myself. I never realized quite how boring I was until I was depressed and had to spend so much time with myself. Running was a great cure though, the phenomes released from the exercise really lifted me and people told me that I looked great. I think it is time I started doing this again.
Just a thought. It might work for your friend and it sure won't do her any harm.
Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary. Mahatma Gandhi
As much as I tend not to respond to your posts, they seem to be getting on me...'cos depressions and suggestions needn't be given from a person who has been through things...in their lives, a person who is mature enough to understand the ups and downs of life is i guess fit a person to give a couple of advices, and trust me buddy...there ain't nothing in this world that doesn't heal with a little bit of compassion and careing from family and friends...
Only a depressed person knows the true reason for being depressed.
We might do more harm then good in trying to help So i believe a doctor is the best choice as they know what and how to prey it open… self diagnosis is very dangerous and should be avoided at all cost
O well buddy, in a case of Depression, its not entirely about you know telling the person to cheer up, what I meant was actually taking the person to better mental strengths with the power of relations...
And trust me, in any case I would respond to a thread, cos any situation is something that is brought upon by an invidual themselves, and not having the idea and not accepting the idea of cheering up anytime is sad and bad...
So believe me buddy, with due respect to your experience and knowledge and stuff like that, I see Depression as an unwanted material in one's life...
And joking about it can always bring upon a quick stir of smile, maybe that could be helpful, maybe that can't... but I'm sure it is upto the individual to take that call, and everyone's depression levels and reasons are different...so if the person being depressed is not ready and not open to listen to the family and friends, then it ain't helping that person with the doctor as well...
The LAST thing you should do is hook up with someone when you are depressed. Usually you end up taking it all out on them, and that's not fair to anyone.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
yup it just makes u feel worser. i think best help can be given by someone who lived it. cuz words like go out have fun, travel, find a girl really doesnt work..
KSA, I'm happy that not seeing a doctor worked for you, but I would never recommend not seeing a doctor to someone else.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
I would say that as well...but still personally I feel out of place to go and visit a doctor...for something or a reason that even you yourself are unsure about...
Anyways...hope that the girl gets better...and carries on with life...
Alright Gyps...and other Children, take care...
I'm taking off for the day...
Be Good everyone...and have a fantastic evening...
It depends on what kind of depression it is KSA. Kit Kat is saying this girl is doing good at her job, making good money, has friends and family there for her and caring for her, yet she is still depressed. In this case it might have more to do with a chemical imbalance that needs medication to correct, then a mere case of the blues.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
but u shud know that noone can recover from depression bec some others want or even he wants. maybe it helps but it is never enough.. and from the view someone is depressed those kind of words are useless. cuz if it was that easy he wudnt be depressed:)
As mentioned earlier, I wouldn't talking or commenting about your folks...
On the other hand...talking about Depression, come on Gyps...look at the brighter side...its not at all about being rude...but I sure can think that I can talk about what a person could do when in tough times...
Trust me, this year has been really tough for me...thats why I am telling the young lady...
Doctors, Tablets, all these are simply not an alternative to stay away or wake up from Depression, it is your family and friends for sure...champ...
It doesn't need one to go into Depression and have the first hand experience to be telling a person to get out of depression...
You know its like that, been there done that kinda thing...I was slmost going into that stage...when I decided on taking off to a quick marraige holiday (marraige for my cousin, holiday for me)...so yeah things can work out for the better if you are with friends and family buddy...
KSA, I don't mean to be rude, but if you have never experienced depression, perhaps you shouldn't be telling someone what they should be doing. Depression is not a case of feeling blue, or just a bit sad, It's far more complicated and much worse then that. And yes you do need doctors, and sometimes pills as the first act of someone experiencing depression is to push all their friends and families away.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Kidding...indeed...depression can be tough to deal with, especially when people think you are down out and crazy...
So thats what Friends are for...rather than doctors...yes I do agree that they are there...but then in situations like this, you need the support and compassion of your loved ones more than external help...
O well Gyps, girl there is only one shot at life...so yeah maybe depression doesnt come into my place...at least...o yes I totally accept there are times when people are down, but not for long...
1 thing, I might get into a depression, waiting for the drinks...looks like your Day number 29 would also come by...
kitkat good thing that you are there to notice her behaviour, continue doing this and try to talk her out of taking tablets....always ask her to go out to unwind...just be there for her...
being dependent to this tablets will just temporarily relieved her from what she has been feeling...encourage her for some outdoor activities..:)
[img_assist|nid=12867|link=none|align=left|width=|height=0]Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.
However, I know about depression and what it can do, but I can recognise the symptoms, which makes it easier and it is often very difficult to go to the doctor as you think that people think you might be crazy.
No worries about the joking, I've heard it all. Some people just don't understand about depression and lucky them. :) Everythings fine on my side and I think we are planning to meet for drinks this week sometime.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Kitkat...apart from me...this time seriously, I guess all she needs is some fun that is bringing her back to life...maybe a good holiday...take her on a holiday, some girl night outs...and stuff like that...get her to deal with life and the this time, not the sad part, but the fun side of things...
Forget the Doctor crap and stuff...about depression...
Personal experience KSA, my family has a long history of manic/depression and clinical depression.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Hey girl, how you doing...hey anytime you feel that way...just knock on my door...I'm sure I can make ya feel better...and chilling out again...in no time...what do ya say...?
Canary: Girl, how you doing...just a quick question, are you always this serious, or do you have a fun-side...just a question...don't kill me with the reply...
she shud definately go to doctor. it is simple. medicine can help her feel better. but if she is shy i really suggest her to go doctor. she can recover.. but it takes long..
KitKat, if you and her family are really really worried, do assure her that medication will not make her sicker, it will not make her hazy or feel not normal (unless it isn't working) and she will feel A LOT better for talking to a psychologist. It is nothing to be ashamed of to need medication or to seek help.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Depression is hard to define and yes if there is an acute sickness there, the antidepressives do help. However, having said that it really is necessary to discuss the symptoms with a psychiatrist he can define the medicine necessary and pehaps a therapy.
Apart from that there are many different types of depressions so he/she would be the best person to talk to.
There is an outpatients department just near to the centre, if you go out of the side entrance and cross the road you will find the hospital there.
It sounds to me like she is having a depressive episode, and if she is staying away from people it might be serious. Her family and friends should be doing what they can now to keep in contact with her and check on her.
If this is a frequent or reoccuring condition (even every couple of years for some people) she may be clinically depressed, in which case she should defintely seek help, and more then likely will need to take medication.
If this is a once off, then she might be fine without medication or even a doctor, depending on how long it lasts and the reasons for the depression.
IF She starts talking about suicide or "Not wanting to deal with stuff anymore" get her too a hospital immediately.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
What else does she want...any internal tensions...or is she missing someone, something, or is she caught up in some turmoils of life...whats keeping her down and almost out...
Ok that s another thing that she hasn't met any exciting young fellas...*turing towards me*...but thats not a reason for her to go down so much...LOL...
Tell you what, get her to have a cup of coffee made by ME...I make superb coffee...seriously...it might get her refreshed...LOL...
By nature she is a shy kinda of girl, but never seen her acting like this. she got a good job, loving family, loads of money and what not. I know her for few years. I always felt there is a other side of her but why would she just stay away from friends and family.
O well girl, it does happen to people...but going and turning to tablets is surely not going to help her in getting her anywhere...by the way whats her problem...you know there are 2 doctors on QL who could possibly help her...one is the person who is typing this...the other is who is all in Smoke...LOL...seruiously, turn her to QL, I'm sure we are quite active here all time to help her through some tough times...
Has she experienced these symptoms before Kit Kat?
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Its not for me dude, a friend of mine, is going from bad to worse, but she still don’t understand that its a medical condition. She don’t want to see anyone, off-late she is not interested in anything. She got all reasons to be happy, still she is kinda sad and aloof.
Friendcuddler, am on diet, I want to give others a break LOL
I know you don't want someone to ask about yourself but better see a professional before taking it. I don't have any idea about those anti-depressant tablets and I cannot say a thing about it.
You know seeing a professional doesn't mean you are looney or something.
Hey come on,,, why would you want anti-depression tablets and stuff...whats so depressing girl...have a break, have a ... did Smokey boy tell you anything hurting...ooo that guy no other work...always in the process of harassing people out here...and especially girls, to get his points quickly so he can buy that Ferrari...
Well these tablets are pretty depressing as they seem sounding...
And about medical help: When you are going absolutely nuts...seriously...you wouldn't want to get that far buddy...
It depends on the person and the level of depression. You should always speak to a doctor and/or a psychologist before you go on.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
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I also know a lady who was going through similar situation.... they took her to the doctor. The doctor said its right time they took her to the doctor.....if not she might have committed suicide. She got a loving husband and a kid. He takes good care of her. she had no attachment with him or her kid.... she felt that she don’t need to live, her husband was really sad..... he tried to make her happy all possible ways, but nothing made her any better. She was under medication for a long time, but now she is alright. But Doctor said it can happen again and its some chemical change in the brain which cannot be cured by external or material pleasure.
Good that she is ready to see the doctor. All the best for your friend….tell her it’s fully curable and she will be happy and active like before.
Gyps your comments were very informative.
I'm so glad she decided to seek help KitKat. In the long run she will realize it's the best thing she ever did. :) If it does turn out to be something serious, like clinical depression or manic depression please feel free to have her PM me, I'm no psychologist, but at least I can let her know she isn't alone. :)
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Sheeesh...I lost...LOL...
No Problem, I guess she needed something more than a few people around her...good for her...and good for you too...I'm sure she has found a good friend in you girl, so take care of her...and keep us posted about how she is turning up...
Wishing her and You all the best...
But anytime if you want a little good time and a few smiles here and there, then go ahead and knock on my door...alright...
All the Best Kitkat...take care and God Bless you or rather your friend too...
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I think Gypsy understood what exactly I was trying to explain, I have seen people going through depression in college days, when they fail in exam or when they broke with their bf/gf, that can be cured by Counseling or yoga/meditation etc. but what I see in my friend is much different than that. that’s why I was confused. Keeping someone busy and engaging them in other activities help only for people who are depressed from some disaster happened in their life. As Gypsy said it looks like some kind of chemical change, as you said her family and friends think she is very selfish and she don’t love or care anyone in this world. She don’t make others happy nor want to be part of their happiness
Last night I asked her to read this topic, she is now willing to see a doctor. Thank you all for your comments. I will keep you posted.
richard123ss prescription is the best...
It has no side effects.
It improves your health & immune system.
It improves stamina.
More over she wont be sitting on her backside thinking pessimistic thoughts.
40 miles daily!!! Thats quite some
Gypsy is right ....If you leave them to themselves then they might attempt sucide.
funny thing is.. how about if my problem is social phobia and i hardly can get friends and go out socialise??:)
http://www.socialphobia.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Anxiety_Disorder
KSA, I think the main problem people are having right now is that from what KitKat says this girl isn't suffering from mild depression. If you are cutting yourself off from friends or family, it's alreay passed into severe depression in which case, friends and family will be of no help (except to keep a close eye on her, and see if there comes a point where she should be hospitalized, inshallah that won't happen).
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Sometimes it takes a lot to be talking to stones...or walls...
O well, it did please me as much as it did by not ignoring you...
Take care "BUDDY"...
Maybe there will be some other topic in which we might share a lighter rapport...but seriously, PM, a word of advice, I hope you are a good person (as I have always seen and understood and made of you) who would keep discussions and opinions on people to only the original threads and not make an assumption on me in all further future threads where you might find me right...
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This thread has been interesting - thanks Gypsy, PM, richard.
I thought I'd add that natural sunlight is also good - but i guess that comes with the running option.
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That's more like an approach...see there you go, you always don't need to turn to medications, when I said about friends and "Buddies" was also something in relation to that, about developing a bit of a more holistic and "take-it-easy" attitude...rather than wasting your life on one thing...more about moving on...
If it is really extreme, then you might as well see someone who can help you out of it...isn't it PM?????
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infighting will it ever stop
All KK wanted was a solution to her friends depression and here we r at out best
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I would rather have one rose and a kind word from a friend while I'm here
Than a whole truck load when I'm gone
Seriously, people...what's so wrong in accepting a suggestion that if the depression can be cured with the help of family and friends, then why turn to medication and doctors...
Know what your problem is right first and then see some pro, in a few cases, even the friends can bring you up a big deal...in some situations the same friends can hit you big time and push you down further, I think in cases like this, you need to understand your friends before you approach all ofthem or any of them...
If it is a serious thing, then seek professional help, is something I have already agreed to, and in the first place I never questioned that...
So what's wrong in trying to see if you really need professional help and medication or you could do with a bit of a good -lifting up soul - time...?
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Firstly, all I was trying to do is help...
Secondly, trust me PM, it takes a lot to have an attitude like mine, and it is always very good to have an approach as I do, it helps a lot, and this person has never mentioned about what type of depression we are talking about, so my automatic response was "To take it Easy", and etc etc ...
Do you have a problem with my attitude or the type of depression...
All I was telling is, if this can be cured with the family and friends get-together, it doesn't warrant for any tablets and pills, if it is more serious (as put forward by GYPSY), then you see a professional...
So what's your problem on my attitude...PM, as mentioned earlier, you need to take it easy on me...'cos my type of attitude can be a lot helpful to many many people in the world, irrespective of the fact that you have encoutered too many people with depression...
PM, if clinical depression can't be cured with a few jokes and a buddy, then go see a Doctor or a professional who could help you out...did I say anything against that, I was just trying to see if there was a lighter way of doing things...
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Richard and Gypsy I can't add to your words of wisdom
I totally endorse the running - and have a similar experience to richard. I have never felt worse for it.
Kasarat - i think you are being a little flippant.. sorry but if you ever experience or have a loved one who experiences such extreme depression (God forbid you dont) then there is NO little remark or joke can alleviate the situation.
People ruin their lives over depression if it is that serious then take the pills. Someone dear to me was once perscribed the pills but fought against taking them and went on some retreats... another dear person wrecked their life.
mine repeats too. just the idea that i know world is not really like this and someday soon i ll feel better. it helps me keep going. but if someone is having it for the first time u shud really help.
i didnt have a good treatment. just used pills for long time and got help from university doctor(so little). maybe thats why it keeps on but this time i ll get all my guns with me!! i ve been saving money here for doctors :)
See, such a nice explanation can get a person a little more clarity on situations ofcourse from people who have been through it...
I totally understand with your reasoning...I wasn't making a point Gyps...I was enquiring on your viewpoint...so there is nothing that You need to disagree with me on...
Interesting site of reasoning...
All well then, as I have always said it...depends on the person, the kind of support he or she would recieve from close people, and ofcourse the stage and reason of getting depressed...
Take care all you lovely people, stay safe and stay away from Depression...
Have a good evening...
Bye...
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Sorry KSA I have to disagree, in many cases, due to sterotypes about depression, and the idea that it's a weakness, most people who aren't educated about it will simply say "Oh it's ok you'll get over it" or "Why are you so upset, you have no reason to be, snap out of it." or actually get angry at them in some cases because they simply don't understand what the person is going through. However this is only my experience with clinical depression, which is usually brought on repeatedly for no reason. In cases of topical depression I think family support might help, but only in mild cases.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Gyps: Good suggestion there, about informing the Doc of other medications...
Richard...Hey buddy, how you doing...anyways just a quick question at both of you, you know at times of depression, don't you possibly think, before considering professional help, it might be advisable to have a word with your dearest ones, just a thought, if it is really out of control, having a pro help you is very much in need...but at the starting stages of depression, what do you think...?
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I agree that some people are given pills they don't need. But it's also part of the process. Depression isn't something to play around with and ignore and you should do everything with a doctors permission and under their supervision.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
@ PM: Calling everyone Buddy, is a way not of immature...cos I totally don't comply of the fact that I regard anyone as Sir or Madam, unless if it is called for, maybe I shall regard you as PM, rather than anything or anyone else...
When I said "JOKING it", all I meant was maybe something that could stir up a smile, or a light moment...
Depressions need not always be caused up due to serious reasons, unless in extreme cases...and trust me, self-control, you must be kidding, I'm sure I've a lot of self-control on myself...and seriously, I don't go throwing my mouth on anyone...
Even in this situation, is something that I tried to see from my viewpoint, I might be wrong, but I might also be right...>? What do you think? For every depression, the only cure is medication...? what's your take on that question?
@ Nib: Agreed champ, totally agree on that , and it is your viewpoint, I never told you not to be telling that...and very rightly put that you would try other things before trying out a Doctor, that's the same thing that I was trying to tell...if they're on the verge of ending their lives or such serious things, then maybe yes seeing someone could help...I mean a Doctor... and I have never adhered to the fact that I Must Know everything...I don't take any such stands...
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I agree that there is a big difference between clinical depression and topical depression. Mine was due to a reason rather than a chemical depression and the 'cure' that worked for me may not be suitable for everyone.
There is a danger though that people with a topical depression get given drugs that do not help them. I agree that the first thing a person should do is get professional help.
When I was in high school two friends of mine in 12th grade committed suicide due to depression. It is almost intolerably sad to think about it and how perhaps they could have been helped. There is no shame in depression it is a serious an illness as cancer. Those affected, owe it to themselves to get professional help.
Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary. Mahatma Gandhi
OOO piece of advise to KitKat! If you're friend does go to the doctor make sure she lets the doctor know what other medication (if any) she is on, as some medication (especially birth control pills) can counteract with the anti-depressents and make the situation worse.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
why shud i come on u? i m just telling u my experiences. these wud hardly work on someone depressed if u tell these to him.
and u shudnt compare this to other sicknesses. u cant know if it is harder or easier.
and for me.. yes there shud be ways before getting medicines. but not everybody is on that early stage on their depression or whatever they have so it can be really life saving.
and sorry but u dont have to know everything:)
maybe there is a different viewpoint in everyone's reasoning...
For me, I truly believe in Family and Friends rather than medication, so I'm reasoning against a Doc, but surely there are cases that can't be cured through some fun, for that Docs are there...
so every reason has its own plus and minus...
End of the day...Stay safe people, avoid getting into difficult spots...life is tough but it can be beautiful...
So Get well to the Victim here...and stay safe, positive and keep yourself busy in something, so at times that you get bogged down, you have something else to remove that extra bit of time from yourself...
Cheers...all...Hunger Strikes...LOL...
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Well I've had friends, that when I've been severly depressed (and told them so) have told me that I'm a horrible selfish person who should go jump off a cliff. So I REALLY don't recommend turning to your friends who may not understand what you are going through. More often then not they make the situation worse.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Sarat as KK said she is going from bad to worse so this is serious and should be taken care off right away by some pro and not armatures like us
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I would rather have one rose and a kind word from a friend while I'm here
Than a whole truck load when I'm gone
See girl, I didn't tell anyone not to approach a Doctor, all I'm saying is...as much as I again agree to a few things that depression can be a lot difficult to deal with...
Maybe getting more busier can remove the time for yourself, and show something else to do...'cos not doing anything can hit you quite hard...
Maybe Richard again was an exception...cos what he did was, as much as told by a Doc, wasn't something that was cured through medication, rather it was done through more sort of getting busier by the moment they say, and it got him all freshened up...
Come on people, I never said that date a girl is a solution,
And if the reason for your depression is your family, then Doc Help You...and I'm sure not everyone out there would actually make fun of you when you are low and hit down...
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I personally believe Richard, after some personal experiences myself, that pills will only really work if you have clinical depression or manic/depression or something that is reoccuring. If you become depressed for a reason, such as divorce, getting fired, the loss of a loved one, etc, then I find they dont' work as well, because you're problem is not a chemical imbalance. In those cases I would recommend running, excercise, or even just talking to a psychologist. However, I can only speak for myself, and I think the bottom line is going to a doctor first.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Well as much as I agreee to the fact that a Doc is well qualified to prey it open, why go to that extreme when you can always fight it yourself...is a question that I'm putting forward...
Look at this buddy, there are certainly other things in life which are more tougher to deal with, like any disease or stuff like that related to unfit health conditions, for those yes Docs are quite helpful, but these things to a large extent are self-implicated, then why not try to cure them through Self-diagnosis (avoding the use of tablets or any such artificial mechanisms...)
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"cos any situation is something that is brought upon by an invidual themselves"
Sorry KSA, but that's not true, in cases of clinical depression or manic depression it can be brought on by nothing at all, much less the individual themselves. It's a chemical imbalance in the brain, not a situation that causes it.
Secondly, most people find it easier (after making the initial step of going to the doctor) to talk to the doctor about their depression. Doctors are less judgemental and less intimidating then family or friends who you might be afraid will shun you or not understand your feelings (or who think the answer is have fun and go out and date someone). Also your family and friends may be a huge part of the reason you're depressed.
Once again, I'm glad those things worked for you, but I think you are the exception rather than the rule.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
it didnt help me. even made me worser.. the worst maybe:) nothign happend to her but.. that is not helping i got it.
a few years ago. I won't bore you with the reasons but I went to a doctor who prescribed me with anti-depressants. These made me feel a lot worse and very tired and lethargic. I told the doctor that I didn't want to take them and I wanted to try something else. He suggested running. I did this starting out at 3 miles three times a week. Pretty soon I was up to 25 miles a week and after two months I was running 40 miles a week.
Apart from getting very lean and fit, I started to feel great. It was a great way to get away from myself. I never realized quite how boring I was until I was depressed and had to spend so much time with myself. Running was a great cure though, the phenomes released from the exercise really lifted me and people told me that I looked great. I think it is time I started doing this again.
Just a thought. It might work for your friend and it sure won't do her any harm.
Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary. Mahatma Gandhi
As much as I tend not to respond to your posts, they seem to be getting on me...'cos depressions and suggestions needn't be given from a person who has been through things...in their lives, a person who is mature enough to understand the ups and downs of life is i guess fit a person to give a couple of advices, and trust me buddy...there ain't nothing in this world that doesn't heal with a little bit of compassion and careing from family and friends...
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Only a depressed person knows the true reason for being depressed.
We might do more harm then good in trying to help So i believe a doctor is the best choice as they know what and how to prey it open… self diagnosis is very dangerous and should be avoided at all cost
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I would rather have one rose and a kind word from a friend while I'm here
Than a whole truck load when I'm gone
O well buddy, in a case of Depression, its not entirely about you know telling the person to cheer up, what I meant was actually taking the person to better mental strengths with the power of relations...
And trust me, in any case I would respond to a thread, cos any situation is something that is brought upon by an invidual themselves, and not having the idea and not accepting the idea of cheering up anytime is sad and bad...
So believe me buddy, with due respect to your experience and knowledge and stuff like that, I see Depression as an unwanted material in one's life...
And joking about it can always bring upon a quick stir of smile, maybe that could be helpful, maybe that can't... but I'm sure it is upto the individual to take that call, and everyone's depression levels and reasons are different...so if the person being depressed is not ready and not open to listen to the family and friends, then it ain't helping that person with the doctor as well...
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The LAST thing you should do is hook up with someone when you are depressed. Usually you end up taking it all out on them, and that's not fair to anyone.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
yup it just makes u feel worser. i think best help can be given by someone who lived it. cuz words like go out have fun, travel, find a girl really doesnt work..
not only words even if u do them.
KSA, I'm happy that not seeing a doctor worked for you, but I would never recommend not seeing a doctor to someone else.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Indeed Gyps...
I would say that as well...but still personally I feel out of place to go and visit a doctor...for something or a reason that even you yourself are unsure about...
Anyways...hope that the girl gets better...and carries on with life...
Alright Gyps...and other Children, take care...
I'm taking off for the day...
Be Good everyone...and have a fantastic evening...
Cheers...
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It depends on what kind of depression it is KSA. Kit Kat is saying this girl is doing good at her job, making good money, has friends and family there for her and caring for her, yet she is still depressed. In this case it might have more to do with a chemical imbalance that needs medication to correct, then a mere case of the blues.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
but u shud know that noone can recover from depression bec some others want or even he wants. maybe it helps but it is never enough.. and from the view someone is depressed those kind of words are useless. cuz if it was that easy he wudnt be depressed:)
As mentioned earlier, I wouldn't talking or commenting about your folks...
On the other hand...talking about Depression, come on Gyps...look at the brighter side...its not at all about being rude...but I sure can think that I can talk about what a person could do when in tough times...
Trust me, this year has been really tough for me...thats why I am telling the young lady...
Doctors, Tablets, all these are simply not an alternative to stay away or wake up from Depression, it is your family and friends for sure...champ...
It doesn't need one to go into Depression and have the first hand experience to be telling a person to get out of depression...
You know its like that, been there done that kinda thing...I was slmost going into that stage...when I decided on taking off to a quick marraige holiday (marraige for my cousin, holiday for me)...so yeah things can work out for the better if you are with friends and family buddy...
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KSA, I don't mean to be rude, but if you have never experienced depression, perhaps you shouldn't be telling someone what they should be doing. Depression is not a case of feeling blue, or just a bit sad, It's far more complicated and much worse then that. And yes you do need doctors, and sometimes pills as the first act of someone experiencing depression is to push all their friends and families away.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
seriously, I can joke here? Oh well, I say it anyway.
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Today I have a depression big time - I just got a parking ticket at Hamad Hospital lol.
Thats your fun side...ooo...how exciting...LOL...
Kidding...indeed...depression can be tough to deal with, especially when people think you are down out and crazy...
So thats what Friends are for...rather than doctors...yes I do agree that they are there...but then in situations like this, you need the support and compassion of your loved ones more than external help...
Thats what I think...for SURE...
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O well Gyps, girl there is only one shot at life...so yeah maybe depression doesnt come into my place...at least...o yes I totally accept there are times when people are down, but not for long...
1 thing, I might get into a depression, waiting for the drinks...looks like your Day number 29 would also come by...
So whats in the planning for Christmas buddy...
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kitkat good thing that you are there to notice her behaviour, continue doing this and try to talk her out of taking tablets....always ask her to go out to unwind...just be there for her...
being dependent to this tablets will just temporarily relieved her from what she has been feeling...encourage her for some outdoor activities..:)
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However, I know about depression and what it can do, but I can recognise the symptoms, which makes it easier and it is often very difficult to go to the doctor as you think that people think you might be crazy.
Studies, wonder what are you studying at this age...pls don't tell me there is no age limit for knowledge...cos I think I already know that line...
For me...I just cant study...period...that is it...you get me to work I will but not study...not my cuppa tea...
Yea, you can always knock on my door...I have a lot of those anti-depressing recipes...that I use for my coffee...to get me going all day long...
So where did you say were....O yes you are not in Qatar right...so when you getting back with the Lindt...
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No worries about the joking, I've heard it all. Some people just don't understand about depression and lucky them. :) Everythings fine on my side and I think we are planning to meet for drinks this week sometime.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Sorry bout that girl, no more jokes on that with you....hope your side of the folks are doing fine, better and keeping good health girl...
Cheers...hey girl, speaking of which, where is the Bday bash buddy...?
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will keep it in my mind.thank you verry much dear.
:-D
am fine,just busy with my studies.
hope you are fine too.
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don't make it sound so bad...
Kitkat...apart from me...this time seriously, I guess all she needs is some fun that is bringing her back to life...maybe a good holiday...take her on a holiday, some girl night outs...and stuff like that...get her to deal with life and the this time, not the sad part, but the fun side of things...
Forget the Doctor crap and stuff...about depression...
Shee needs some Entertainment...
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and do not take pills ur own. always better to go doctor.. and for more info u can ask me cuz i had depression treatment for long time:p
Personal experience KSA, my family has a long history of manic/depression and clinical depression.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
Hey girl, how you doing...hey anytime you feel that way...just knock on my door...I'm sure I can make ya feel better...and chilling out again...in no time...what do ya say...?
Canary: Girl, how you doing...just a quick question, are you always this serious, or do you have a fun-side...just a question...don't kill me with the reply...
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she shud definately go to doctor. it is simple. medicine can help her feel better. but if she is shy i really suggest her to go doctor. she can recover.. but it takes long..
KitKat, if you and her family are really really worried, do assure her that medication will not make her sicker, it will not make her hazy or feel not normal (unless it isn't working) and she will feel A LOT better for talking to a psychologist. It is nothing to be ashamed of to need medication or to seek help.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
LOL...sounds like words of experience...if that is the case...
Girl, good to have you back on QL here...in Doha...LOL...
whats the mystery behind so much explanation...LOL???
How you doing today buddy...
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me too want to stay alone sometimes.without having someone around me.
maybe she will feel better soon without taking those tablets.
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Depression is hard to define and yes if there is an acute sickness there, the antidepressives do help. However, having said that it really is necessary to discuss the symptoms with a psychiatrist he can define the medicine necessary and pehaps a therapy.
Apart from that there are many different types of depressions so he/she would be the best person to talk to.
There is an outpatients department just near to the centre, if you go out of the side entrance and cross the road you will find the hospital there.
They are very helpful and will take care.
It sounds to me like she is having a depressive episode, and if she is staying away from people it might be serious. Her family and friends should be doing what they can now to keep in contact with her and check on her.
If this is a frequent or reoccuring condition (even every couple of years for some people) she may be clinically depressed, in which case she should defintely seek help, and more then likely will need to take medication.
If this is a once off, then she might be fine without medication or even a doctor, depending on how long it lasts and the reasons for the depression.
IF She starts talking about suicide or "Not wanting to deal with stuff anymore" get her too a hospital immediately.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
What else does she want...any internal tensions...or is she missing someone, something, or is she caught up in some turmoils of life...whats keeping her down and almost out...
Ok that s another thing that she hasn't met any exciting young fellas...*turing towards me*...but thats not a reason for her to go down so much...LOL...
Tell you what, get her to have a cup of coffee made by ME...I make superb coffee...seriously...it might get her refreshed...LOL...
What do you think chocolate...
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By nature she is a shy kinda of girl, but never seen her acting like this. she got a good job, loving family, loads of money and what not. I know her for few years. I always felt there is a other side of her but why would she just stay away from friends and family.
O well girl, it does happen to people...but going and turning to tablets is surely not going to help her in getting her anywhere...by the way whats her problem...you know there are 2 doctors on QL who could possibly help her...one is the person who is typing this...the other is who is all in Smoke...LOL...seruiously, turn her to QL, I'm sure we are quite active here all time to help her through some tough times...
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Has she experienced these symptoms before Kit Kat?
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif
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Its not for me dude, a friend of mine, is going from bad to worse, but she still don’t understand that its a medical condition. She don’t want to see anyone, off-late she is not interested in anything. She got all reasons to be happy, still she is kinda sad and aloof.
Friendcuddler, am on diet, I want to give others a break LOL
Yes have a break, have a KITKAT $-0
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People are very inclined to set moral standards for others.
~Elizabeth Drew, The New Yorker, 16 February 1987
I know you don't want someone to ask about yourself but better see a professional before taking it. I don't have any idea about those anti-depressant tablets and I cannot say a thing about it.
You know seeing a professional doesn't mean you are looney or something.
Take care.
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People are very inclined to set moral standards for others.
~Elizabeth Drew, The New Yorker, 16 February 1987
Hey come on,,, why would you want anti-depression tablets and stuff...whats so depressing girl...have a break, have a ... did Smokey boy tell you anything hurting...ooo that guy no other work...always in the process of harassing people out here...and especially girls, to get his points quickly so he can buy that Ferrari...
Well these tablets are pretty depressing as they seem sounding...
And about medical help: When you are going absolutely nuts...seriously...you wouldn't want to get that far buddy...
Take care...
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It depends on the person and the level of depression. You should always speak to a doctor and/or a psychologist before you go on.
"i'm not hurting anyone, i'm just telling my own truth, and if there is something wrong then maybe there's something wrong with you. why we all gotta look, why we all gotta act the same i say if you're born a lion don't bother trying to act tame." Ani Dif