im leavign cause your all pathetic

4) This boy will be lucky to find a job in Qatar as:-

a) He is very young.

I'm not that young. I'm 22 years old & people my age have found overseas work

b) He has no teaching experience.

I run my own Animation class to Teach people how to animate. I have been doing this for two years

5) Spoon feeding someone through their paper work - how on earth will he survive "the cultural shock and not to

mention the living conditions", (taken from a thread on QL).

I can get my own Visa, I have a passport

6) Even if he would get a job, how will he pay his rent? How will he live? If he gets accommodation how will he

manage to survive? 17 years of age is not exactly o boy carrying any experience.

I have a $500 a week job & i have saved money for years

9) This was not a thread about his English

I couldn't care less if canarybird has a paranoid mind.

I'm from an ENGLISH speaking country that was a colony of an ENGLISH speaking country. My parents came from ENGLISH speaking countries. English is my first and only language

Nobody care if you hit the wrong keys on forum posting. If people complain about other peoples spelling, Well they are paranoid

10) As far as I read he was in the catering/hotel business perhaps it would be advisable for him to look for a job

in that field of scope as there are enough hotels here looking for staff.

Been a bartender for two years.

11) If you look at all his questions then you will understand how high his expectations my be, and undoubtably he

will be extremely disappointed if he only earns QR and has to pay rent and live.

Well i might as well forget working in Qatar since id earn more in OZ with tax than in Qatar without tax. Unless there is another income tax free country that pays people a higher wage

I just want to say that three points you make are not valid Canary.

If he's an expat and a teacher, he'll not end up with 4500 and be dumped looking for rent. Do you know of any expats that get than and nothing more? (Unless they're teaching for a public school or charitable cause)

And another point is, just because someone is related to one field, it doesn't mean that he can't do something else...

You say that expenses are paid by people who are badly needed and get paid high salaries. Could you please verify this?

Perhaps a teacher on this forum could let us know what they're making.

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may b because they can enjoy multiple ones without stopping.

Hope u can save me from female wrath.....lol

well if you squeeze a fruit u get the fruit juice and if u squeeze a female you get that :D

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so that people should know when to stop!!! Have an orgasm and stop.PLEASE

Yes very true your the girl with the slap

I never called you a jerk....I dont have the habit of name calling...dont accuse someone without proof.

Really surprised me that this thread took off again.

1) I have no issues against Indians. (about me taken from a thread on QL).

2) I am not a Jerk just honest (Jerk name by Gypsy Gal on this thread).+

3) I do have issues about people who advertise parts of my profile on any thread (knoxcollege).

4) This boy will be lucky to find a job in Qatar as:-

a) He is very young.

b) He has no teaching experience.

c) There are many more experienced graduates in Qatar looking for English teaching jobs.

d) If there is an open teaching job and this can be filled by a Qatari - the law says take the Qatari first.

5) Spoon feeding someone through their paper work - how on earth will he survive "the cultural shock and not to

mention the living conditions", (taken from a thread on QL).

6) Even if he would get a job, how will he pay his rent? How will he live? If he gets accommodation how will he

manage to survive? 17 years of age is not exactly o boy carrying any experience.

7) PM is there with her big red(correcting pen) when many of her own comments are not written in proper English

( whatever that may be nowadays).

8) There is a great deal of information on this site already spoon feeding people through their Ministerial

problems, (not that I think this is wrong) but there is more than enough information on this site to help

anyone through paperwork from a-z if they take the time to read it. Where we do have many people

exchanging expriences on this site is more than useful although there are others who think this is

like a Morning Coffee Meeting)where no on important is reading and/or able to do anything to rectify situations.

9) This was not a thread about his English but the very fact of wanting to teach english here in Doha, he will

have to be a great deal better than he showed on his thread, because finally he will be teaching other

children/people here to speak and write English.

10) As far as I read he was in the catering/hotel business perhaps it would be advisable for him to look for a job

in that field of scope as there are enough hotels here looking for staff.

11) If you look at all his questions then you will understand how high his expectations my be, and undoubtably he

will be extremely disappointed if he only earns QR 4.500 and has to pay rent and live.

12) The usual expenses as you mentioned above are mainly paid to highly qualified and expereinced people who are

badly needed in Qatar.

This was, and still is my honest opinion and I think it is time to close the thread.

PM, I was going to point out that exact same thing.

It reminded me of when a friend of mine from Korea wanted to teach English at an institute in the UK and sent an email off which said.

"Your student can study English from me. Is there many? I can teach it".

Anyway,

martin, here are some answers (although already answered).

1) How do i gain permanent residence for work in Qatar?

You need to either get a job to handle the visa side for you (apply THEN get a visa), OR get a sponsor.

I suggest coming on a tourist visa, search for a job, then go back and wait for a response.

2) If i get a job, does my manager pay for some of my expenses?

A manager? No. But the company or institute itself? yes. The usual expenses paid include accommodation allowance, transport allowance, furniture, insurance, medical, dental, and some even include education or clothing.

3) Is there many English Teaching jobs in Qatar?

Yes there are many, but there are also many that wish to teach. I checked your profile and you are under 18, so I think that could give you some issues since the youngest teach I've ever met was 23. (but that's just due to the fact that he was the youngest qualified.)

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your steps are:

1. find a job over the Internet Job posts on different sites, like www.Bayt.com, Gulf-Times Classified, etc.

2. Only after getting a Job offer you will be able to obtain your Working Visa first, and later, when you are here, your Residence Permit through your Company (which will be your sponsor).

Or you can come here as a visitor and try to find a job from here, but as it has been mentioned this way is more expensive for you and the offered packages are usually less than if you apply from overseas.

Check this link for visas:

http://www.e.gov.qa/eGovPortal/visaservice/visaservicedetails.jsp?ServicePortal=VV

This service corresponds to the defined 33 nationalities applying for Joint Tourist visit visa to Qatar and Oman.

USA, Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, Switzerland, Austria, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Portugal, Ireland, Greece, Finland, Spain, Monaco, The Vatican, Iceland, Andorra, San Marino, Liechtenstein, Brunei, Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong, and South Korea.

You can only reside in Qatar if you have a residence permit and without a job you will not obtain a residence permit.

I think (others will correct me if I am wrong) that Ozzies can get a visit visa at the airport on arrival.

Well what Visa do i need to live & work permanently in Qatar?

There are permanent residents in my country that work as well as residing in Australia.

There is no Qatar Embassy/Consulate in Australia the only Gulf countries with diplomats in Canberra are: Kuwait, Iran, Iraq & Saudi Arabia. So i don't think any of them could issue me a Qatar Visa

Don't be rough! don't break his heart again!

Welcome back!

Try this link first

http://recruit.qu.edu.qa/pls/recruitment/recruiter.rec

Residence permit is obtained by your employer

If you get a job you will be offered a contract giving the details. Some companies offer more benefits than others (and of course different salary scales).

There are English teaching jobs in Qatar but also many teachers.

you need a sponsor to get a PR. So you need to find a job first and ask your employer to sponsor u.

the manager not paying your expenses... the company does.

there are a demand on teaching English in Doha ... as far as you are qualified... send away your CV to schools and see how it goes.

do a search in the forum. If search function is not available then please wait till Qatari brings back the search function.

Who asked you for forgiveness??

I dont see any??

Hmm Welcome back

and no ur manager will never pay for ur expense.

yes there are English teaching Jobs.

Permanent what do you mean by that. You only get a work visa not a permanent visa. and thats only possible when u get a Job here.and for that you have to come here on visit visa.

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I'm back to get the question i want answered. I had to create another account cause i have already locked my own account

the question i ask are:

1) How do i gain permanent residence for work in Qatar?

2) If i get a job, does my manager pay for some of my expenses?

3) Is there many English Teaching jobs in Qatar?

Wrong gypsygal! You should say: "Spelling IS not important"!

You can't use "are" in this sentence! ;-)

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Spelling are not important as long as you can understand the contents...unless you are writing an English Examination..

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/30005

"LEAVING", Martin. Not "LEAVIGN". The "G" comes after the "N". You have to watch your spelling for God's sake...LOL

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I got carried away with this thread..

just want to say that,

Education is measured not by how many eloquent words you use to speak but how you choose your words to enlighten others.. It is being distinguish by having the right manners in a wrong place...

Have fun!!!

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lets leave the past behind and lets start once again on QL.

n/c

Having read all the comments in this topic, I wonder whether Canarybird has any hidden dislike to India and Indians.

As I have written some time back, English is dead in England itself.

May be it has been safely packed away by Canarybird. LOL

Actually I lived in Tehran and I was working for a company called Kafshi Melli. They had an industrial area out near Karaj where they were producing everthing that was needed to make shoes.

The company was owned by a man call Irivani he was a self made millionair. Very nice man unfortunately I heard recently that he died two years back.

I had a great time out there.

I saw you also lived in Iran. I also worked there for two years. Where did you stayed. Must say Doha is much better!

I did what I started out to do this morning so I am happy.

Well its not like everyday you get to pick on someone and join forces with all the people against one! hehehehe

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too easy to go with the flow thank godness we don't all do it!!

Good point! Am glad you did that actually.

I wanted to start up first criticizing Martin, but then just decided to go with the flow.

Yeah its sad that existing QL'ers are all fighting whereas he makes a quick exit after igniting the fire! LOL

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as you are not British I will forgive your message

martinthethrash...your question is so vague..If I get a job ..would that happen..would this happen...etc.

You are not specifiying your field, your experience, where you are working (you dont even say you are working in Dubai)....etc

Its like "If my aunty was to become a male would he be my uncle?" type of question.

The whole ruckus erupted after Cannary critised you for your english. And after all these people supporting you & joking at Cannary all you could do is turn your back?

cool.

You fall in both categories! Which one do you prefer?

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Apologies accepted... now stop talkin crazy and take me to a good sumptious lunch...???

watch out for news of a middle-aged woman lost in Doha, found under an over sized sun hat

In the English media, this time of year is known as the silly season.

All the (QLers who purport to be) politicians, news makers, and opinion shapers have gone on holiday, to their Italian villas, country houses, or tropical islands.

The (QL forum) newspapers are staffed by a few lonely hacks trying to fill a paper with fabricated news stories, pointless lists, and celebrity-based trivia.

RING ANY BELLS WITH YOU LOT??? :P

LOL. Not the ideal gift you'd be looking forward to from an Indian on the eve of their 60th Independence Day! LOL.

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apologise for the wrong nationality humbly

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Name calling is another thing - is this what you do in India to defend yourselves.

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Firstly, the person you are referring to therein isn't Indian.

And Secondly, NO in India we Biyatch slap the person to defend ourselves.

;-P

don't bother me with such comments

Whats with the issue of being called a jerk anyway? My dictionary defines jerk (verb) as :

1. Pull, or move with a sudden movement

2. Move with abrupt, seemingly uncontrolled motions

3. Jump vertically, with legs stiff and back arched

4. Throw or toss with a quick motion

I guess it summarizes that you're a pretty flexible person on QL. Thats all!

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You just call your club the Colt-Knox-Clan it sounds actually quite good.

Just one thing on a last note, I am not offended by your comments, quite the opposite it delights me to have seen something moving here today.

It was interesting to see what happened and to see how things were motivated, however, I will not accept anything used or published from my profile on any thread this is private and only normally available to members so I will follow knoxcollege for presenting a part of my profile publically here and be sure I will do it.

Name calling is another thing - is this what you do in India to defend yourselves.

The whole process was to liven up the discussion and it did, but, it has shown me the immaturity of many who are discussing here today.

Mi willy nat speky Iniglish 2oo Gud todey pecause me tongui is nuat Iniglish.

That is my version of Pig English!

Just read it calmly.

Lol

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery

None but ourselves can free our minds..

To call someone a "jerk" you have to know what you are talking about. Due to your lack of knowledge of who or what I am I find that your opinion doesn't count.

An opinion or a comment on QL does not make me a "jerk" but is does make me think about who you may be calling people names without be my qualified personal friend.

sorry for the mistype, i meant fun club... the canary-knox fun club... and now since knox is thrown out by the statement (quote)he made, do i gain automatic access or do we rename it as the colt-canary fun club?

Yes I need a life. Cause I'm the one making fun of someones English.

"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco

Is that the Colt-Knox-Clan, hey you are really good, however, better be careful here as we might be folllowed by the followers.

Thank you for the Arabic lessons but I do know some and I have ateacher already sunshine, however should that person decide I am a "Jerk" I will in any case revert to you.

I believe in pure contest and personal discount, someone will be nominated as My Donkey Rider of the DAY very soon

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery

None but ourselves can free our minds..

Does that mean now I get automatic access to the fun clun that Knox was once a member of? Damn he din allow me in then, because he was something like... no threesomes, me got ma canarybird...

So ????

Great minds think alike

Fools seldom differ

tch tch tch read your own bottom line.

Only canarybird was being a jerk, I don't see why you have to throw a hissy fit and leave. :?

"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco

Any suggestions?

Darude is No more my Donkey rider for today.

The Donkey beat him to the stables of patience.

So, I'm looking for the most splendid, craziest and hilarious candidate to fit my jokes tonight.

Any flipping, constraint artist of curious nature willing to Ride the DONKEY TONIGHT?

My Suggestion Box is open.

Lets not forget my confession booth is available twenty four hours a day.

While this Pope exercise a good day sleep.

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery

None but ourselves can free our minds..

You are the person with the biggest "chip on the shoulder" you criticise without offering a solution.

Get yourself a life!!!

You spend your whole day and night on QL seems to me the only connections you have

!!!!

You are not allowed to quote from my profile this is my personal thing and my personal thoughts. Don't touch my personal life as this is not your business.

Be very careful about this !!!!!

WARNING

LOL!!! that was whack... now you get booted from the fun club and in goes Colt... hee haw!!!

Quoting from canarybird's profile

"I definately don't like bad manners from young men"

all my life i thought it is definitely and I was defiant till the end

but as per the urbandictionary definately is also used.

definately = Idiot-speak for "definitely". One of the most common moronic misspellings found on the internet."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=definately

I swear i dint write that......

there is one canary-bird and one knoxcollege. Only twosome, no threesome

find your own bird dude

(me found ma canary)

Is that fun club the ADULT fun club... if so... i can't wait to join as well... ;-P

Hey you all out there no mention of "crappy people"

take it from me

"Great minds think alike

Fools seldom differ"

Have a good day - nothing in this life is free "not even an opinion as this has consequences"

welcome to the club of boring people.

I want to join the fun club of canarybird. canarybird you have to meet me once to find out how much fun we will have together

So much so for ABC of life !!!!!! I guess you have learnt wrong ABC.....

GG - You are all in action today.....mc donalds really helped i guess :)

Dude, just to let you know she has categorized you along with few others as boring people on QL.

Quoting her from the another thread,

"We have "Owen" "Knoxcollege" "rayzz" "GG" and many others exchangeing comments under themselves - my question where is the real QL that used to be here??

Seems to me a lot of boring people around with nothing to say."

LOL

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Great dig girl! LOL

Wow Canarybird is responsible for all this! And there she is in the other thread speaking so much of boredom on QL and how full it is of crappy people!

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I have really bad "english". I need your help in improving my english. There are many people on QL whose english is not good. If you help them they might be able to write like Shakespeare on QL. So when should we come?

We should be thankful to canarybird for telling us our mistakes and correcting our english. Who does it for free?

He left because of Cararybird...

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/30007#comment-139418

We are trying to help people here..and having fun with our friends... we dont drive people away from QL...by insulting others..lol

Wel... are you gonna repost your query or not? Or have you left QL already?

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Hey Martin,

Take it easy and lighten up. These guys just have a sense of humour if you stick around some1 will answer your questions & you'll probably pick up on that sense of humour i don't think they were paying out on you or meant any harm.

RELAX!!!

,......dont be upset buddy...

but I helped you!!!!!!!!!!!!! I didn't make fun of your spelling...why to generalise

Alrite no jokes in here guys.

QL's reputation is at stake now. What was it you were looking for. I'm afraid I haven't come across your query yet.

Can you post that again?

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Hey Martin..

Chill - all the posters on this thread are now JOINTLY tryin to "make it up for you".. So how may we help you?

"To err is human - to forgive is divine".

AR.

" Life is short - make the best of it while you are ALIVE!"

hi martin..wat r u looking for ..? there are lot of people here to help u out.. c'mon man.. Hu KARES ABOT SPELINKS??

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Who did what to you ?????

Colt c'mon quick say sorry to Martin....I always knew u can't behave....LOL LOL LOL

But what did i do? Can you tell me my fault other than coming here.

And again, what was it you were looking for?