Certificate of Ownership (NOC)
reconciling what I’m used to with what i can’t do
Middle east, Qatar still in many ways a conservative muslim state. During summer the temperature reaches to a staggering 50 degrees more than enough to fry eggs under the sun, in the Philippines 37 degrees is already a phenomenon but enough of the weather, there is nothing I can do about it.
Back home I can go outside wearing only my birthday suit as long as my genitals are covered, in here if you are caught not wearing shirt in public is punishable by repatriation. Nevermind the gentlemen’s gesture because you cannot hold the hand of a lady even while crossing the highways, its Haram. Liquor is only accessible to those who have the liquor license, and if you really want to have a sip of the precious liquid you have to pay it double to the licensee, good business eeh? and if caugth even just the cap of the battle KALLASH goodbye Qatar hello Philippines.
Probably anyone wasting time reading this, is getting the picture….Yes we are like prisoners here with a huge and unpartitioned cells. But that’s not it.. if you are under the sponsorship of your company and you are fed up with it, you cannot just make a resignation letter and find a new one, it depends on the prerogative of the employer if it will give you NOC, (No Objection Certificate) which is a requirement before any other company will hire you as if it is the “certificate of ownership” which can be pass on. Worst they’ll accept your resignation and you’ll pay for the plane ticket and be banned for two years from coming back.So its more of personal rather than professional.
The culture I respect and willing to abide by the law, now that I have seen the good side of Islam, my respect for Muslims is too much especially the locals whose respect for us Filipino is evident. The one thing that I can’t comprehend is the power the government has given to the companies to chained employees and keep them at their disposal.”Modern Slavery”….I hope not..
In the land of the free like Philippines, maybe at this time you can see me holding a big improvised board with the print so big that even the penguins up north can see..but I can’t I’m in Qatar, have to live with it and wait until my contract expires but how when I have a non expiring one..
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yes DMS is right then. he is absolutely right.
YOU SAY WHAT YOU ARE!!!
you first commented us and called us nutter and when it is thrown against you you overreact. You first treat us personal attack that makes you poor in argument.
I cannot react no more, and I am sorry for I offended you but you are first who already offended me when you called me as nutter.
check my postings if you see unreasonable postings i have made. or to be sure check all my postings.
you like to name names.. and if it is thrown against you you overreact.
chill guys, this is turning into another nasty thread sadly... :(
and i can call you negro as nuts-headed-insensible american as its meaning. hi negro. and you are the first person in QL i called as one.
ukengQ- have sent you a pm
lol UkEng, did you double post by accident or just boosting up your points? :P
be cool guys...
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HE WHO DARES WINS
Padre DMS, She can have friday off to go the church. Money will be just over the 1k mark
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HE WHO DARES WINS
you mentioned me as nutter and bading as well.
check your postings. mind your words. And I'm beginning to believe as dms said. you say what you are.
abu, dms is right. mindanao is soooo big that not all of the provinces have problems with islamic extremists and insurgents. but for precaution only, try to avoid mindanao altogether. but if you're game, visit davao, cagayan de oro and nearby provinces. do not go to the southernmost areas.
mo lang!
could you please do not address us "nutter"as you mentioned.
Your words describe or exhibit what person or what character you have.
You are a teacher. Act like one.
I am looking to exploit this sponsorship law and desperatly in need of a flipino MAID. I want to be a good employer and change the perception of the sponsorship law. So if you know any one who can do a good domestic job, without asking too much salary, or time off and does not get homesick and willing to do a good job.. please PM me.. We will offer a good package..
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what is too much salary to you, 'Dre? and without day off? Knowing you, I can refer 100's. Lol!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
Mindanao is composed of many provinces. It's the second largest islands in the Philippine Archipelago. There are certain areas in Mindanao where some bad elements are present, so these are the places in which Arecel said is not recommended to be with. But majority part of Mindanao is safe as Vivo is trying to convey to you!
You are what you say!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
and vivo said:
truly mindanao is good resting place in all of earth...
Does this mean its a good place to die? LOL
that not the way i meant... but rather... mushrooms will fruitfully flourish to grow in ones' decaying body...:D
~~Life's Cycle~~~
BELONGS eh!!!!thnks for the welcome....
AbuAmerican said see no vivo what am I ...
see now vivo what am I supposed to think. Two FIl expatriates in one thread saying opposing things.
I have seen pictures, it is beautiful and I will go there but for now I think things need to settle. I can only judge the place by what I see on the news and reports.
See many end up unhappy or worse by just listening to people talk about the salt and honey of a land and then going there and finding something far different than what was told to them by someone who grew up there.
I just don't have the.... spontaneous character to hop on a plane based upon hearsay. Don't blame me for what I read.
Also.. I am not white I am a black American.
under the influence of ?????.....hallucinating eh!!! news reports and hearsays
"I can only judge the place by what I see on the news and reports.""
remember? And by the way, google Mindanao so you won't be confused with Vivo and Arecel's postings! They are not contradictory!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
no matter it is... black american, pure native or mix caucasian as long as from america... we regard them as WHITES... white teeeth and white eyes in your case...:D peace!!
~~Life's Cycle~~~
At least I am not hypocrite! Are you?
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
abu... you dont know well about mindanao... the one who told you dont even know how well is mindanao... perhaps.. you're the only white not even touch the soil of mindanao... come with me and ill unravel to you how beautiful it is... but if u still insist of your crooked belief... truly mindanao is good resting place in all of earth...
~~Life's Cycle~~~
it's counted. I thought you are a teacher?
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
you are what you say!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
because you are one. You are what you say!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
abu, you'll be safe in my country except mindanao. we have a problem currently with abu sayyaf group who kidnaps and kills civilians. i don't know anymore what they are fighting for.
mo lang!
then you tell me, who is bashing who. I responded to your postings and you tell me I am the problem. You accused me of trying to silence you? Check your first three postings and tell me, are you acting as a teacher? You generalize your view after reading something as a human rights reports? I am known as a "reactionary" guy as I only react on something I read on post by fellow Qlers, and the you will tell me to be better off from my own country? Who the hell are you to tell me that? I pity your Filipina partner if you have one!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
my, my. my. What kind of education are you in?
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
and maybe we could check whether we are the one who can't read or you. You accused our authorities of rampant killing and saying our country is not safe?
I invite you to come to our country and feel the Filipino hospitality renowned to the whole world. If your kind of person will be my colleague here, I might as well go home immediately. We don't silence the opposition, just talk with sense, YOU DON'T!!!!!!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
I wonder now then how your students learn anything from your irresponsible, senseless, and unmindful manner. (you people???!!!)
Really, good manners cannot be attained on education alone.
In the Philippines if one will simply disappear into some shallow grave in some forest.... birds, wilds, earthworms will benefit from them...
in Qatar, if one will simply disappear into some shadows of the desert's storm... even a single bacteria, no one benefits from them...
now, to where will u choose, Qatar or Philippines?
~~Life's Cycle~~~
with due respect to you...
your idea of generalization is somewhat baseless. Rule of the jungle? WTH you got such idea. Yes, reading in the newspapers, internet site, etc., will not give you the whole picture of what is really happening. And to generalize the issue is too irresponsible.
Anyway, we cannot blame you for that maybe you are born to believe that things can be known with such readings and postings even without actually experiencing the facts.
As my previous postings here... Grow up or shut up!!!
good for you spike:-)i only attended one political rally in my life:) guess, i should have been more involved in the parliamentary of the streets. kudos to you.
mo lang!
I just don't want to go on with that killing thing, guess I have to say it now, I was once an activist myself, have been a politician who disregards or even disrespect some of our local officials but I am still alive.
"simple yet complicated"
"makamal a anak"
so back-offfffffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!! Your mentality sucks!
Review my postings here and what have I said about this country. So if you can't say any good thing about ours, never ever think of setting your foot there because a lot of my countryman "like" people like you!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
there seems to be the perception from non-Filipinos that the Philippines is like a place dominated by thugs and gang lords, where you could just silenced anyone if he/she is voicing against a certain person. of course, they based it on the few instances of killings. sure, there are at least 300 hundred activists being killed allegedly by the military. i wont deny that fact and to me that is tragic. BUT please don't forget that there are 90M Filipinos in our country, more than half are adults and youths and, believe me, almost all 45M had voiced out against government policies and officials including our president in one way or another. if you say that killing against those dissenting is prevalent, wouldn't you think that statistics will be higher than just 300?how come i don't know anyone personally who has been killed for that matter? if it is prevalent, you would think that every family had suffered. c'mon, my bestfriend is an activist but she is still alive. her friends are also activists and in fact are members in the underground movement and yes, they are still alive up to this day.
perhaps you will better understand the concept of voicing out in the phils. here let me explain further: those activists that had been killed are working with farmers'rights against landed employers or working with the urban poor. since the communists also penetrated these sectors of philippine society, the military almost always branded these activists as "communists" thereby seen as threat to national security. of course, some activists are not communists and they are caught in the situation. this is where the tragedy lies.
now, if you just attend to rallies against government policies or government official, you will not be killed i assure you. if you are a college student who voiced out against tuition fee increases, you will not be killed. if the president of the land is addressing your graduation rites and you suddenly heckled her in the middle of her speech (this happened 2 years ago), you will be reprimanded sure but not killed. in fact., this girl is still alive today and is not imprisoned.
the lone fact that we have the nerve to say anything against our government while still in the Philippines is a sure proof that we are not threatened in any way.
mo lang!
I was just asking, and telling you that not all part of the Philippines is in chaos particularly my province where I know everyone living in my neighborhood. and Abu just in case you want to try to go there, make it during my vacation so I can be your personal guide and Historian as well.
"simple yet complicated"
"makamal a anak"
My dear Anzal, in case you haven't read the whole thread let me say that I also wrote "guess have to live with it".
We say things as we perceived them..Even Twins have different views.
"simple yet complicated"
"makamal a anak"
Dear Spikey....
Every Country has its own rules. Everything has positive and negative aspects too..Instead of blaming the negative aspects, why dont you enjoy the positive part of it..I just saw you comparing Qatar Life to a prison. Dude, you yourslef decided to be in prison and i guess its not someone who purposefully pushed you in here..About the NOC thingy..If you are fed up with your current job, you will need an NOC to go to another cell in the same prison(according to you).But why do you wanna do that...? What big difference can the other cell in the same prison make ....? Remember, you will never ever need an NOC to be a free bird and fly back to your home(Philippines). Have you ever seen any prison allowing prisoners to just walk away simply like that...? The most important thing is that you are earning your daily bread from the same PRISON and not from Philippines...I know, no country is gonna be like our home country. We will never ever get the same freedom that we get in our country, from some other countries...But please learn to see the positive part in everything, rather than criticizing....Anyways good luck too you.
"I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet"
"Only that in U which !$ ME can hear Wot I am sayin...."
You have so much to say about the Philippines..Have you ever been there? Foreigners there are treated very well, that's why we are known for our hospitality..Don't conclude base on what you read and what you watched on the internet.
"simple yet complicated"
"makamal a anak"
there's no NOC. You can leave as you pleases. But yes, I would not advice you to go to Philippines. You won't contribute anything there (with your kind of mentality). At least here, we contribute "something" to make this nation continue to exist (with our humble contribution).
And Alexa, I beg to differ with your view that since many Filipinos are here, Qatar laws are better than in our country. Parallelism should also be compared to all expats living here now in Qatar, including yours!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
I think the saying "you cannot have you cake and eat it at the same time" really applies here.
"simple yet complicated"
"makamal a anak"
While you were back home, you probably said, darn, life in the Philippines is so hard, might as well sacrifice a little comfort and work abroad.
then you got a job abroad, and you said, darn, life is hard here in Qatar. i miss Philippines.
this is human nature. and you are allowed to vent, if venting is what you intended to do when you posted this.
by now you must have learned, it's not always greener on the other side.
http://littlegirlmaui.blogspot.com/
True!, there's no such perfect place on earth
And based on the description about Qatar in this thread, I'd rather choose to live like a half prisoner having a Monarchy Ruled Government of this kind rather than to have a free land country with the kind of Administration we have currently, a freeland with full democracy to some extent that you can mock and BS the President of the State publicly. Yes! we called it land of the free, where anyone can have gun and shoot anybody in the street because they think that they can get throught it. I am not saying that Qatar is crime free, but compare to my dear homeland where shootings and killings is a normal scenario of the day,... aaaahhhh how sad to think. Another shame of our government is the current terrorist Abusayaf in Mindanao. I will never ever believe that our Government Arm Forces are incapable of cracking down the group, of course they are, but I dont know why they can't or perhaps they dont want? well, otherwise movie is over :)
BLame the Brits for it.
In case you haven't read the last part "guess have to live with it" also post the topic about summary executions on another forum. like what I've said Philippines is a free country which entails press freedom..Do you think they will publish such negative news in here?guess not.
All are Equal in the Eyes of GOD.
WE ARE ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS
You are 100% rght.
But I knew all these before I decided to fly down.
How about you?
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Listen to Many..Speak to a few.
hundreds? pls provide link.
abuamerican, really? from a few articles that you read, you think extra judicial is rampant (huge amount), didn't you? funny:)
better go back to philippines..duh...dont wait for your endo...
so much of the hang ups..be thankful u have the job that others dont have... you left philippines and said goodbye to the things that u been used to, then say hello to another country, you should be known urself that u are entering a diferent country, simple...new house..new rule, overcome it or leave..ur choice...enjoy what u can get and stop complaining..otherwise theres always a flight back to our country...
in this dificult time.
katas ng qatar
... and if you are not happy you can always go home.
Ignorance of some people and their racist attitudes is due to poor education and insulation from anything outside of their own communities!
Just remember that its not forever and at least the pay is much better here!
Swings and roundabouts as the saying goes!!!