Thanks for your replies Mandi and to the boys .... please grow up!
We're South African .... opportunities for white South Africans are very limited in South Africa, so we are a bit 'desperate' at this stage. But, I'll negotiate for more ... !
PS, Prada, is your hubby's nationality US? There can be some issues with your sponsoring a husband while he is working. You need to check this out as well.
Prada, do NOT come for less than you are making in the US. The standard recruitment package for Americans is your current salary plus 25% overseas benefit plus housing, transportation, tickets, medical and schooling for up to three children. You're being low-balled, honey, negotiate for more! You won't have the chance later, believe me.
This will help you to calculate your monthly savings and expected salary:
Housing Rent is little bit high in Qatar. Whether you live in decent place then you have to be ready to spend around 7500 to 9500 for 3 room apartment.
QAR (Per Month) For 2 Persons
9,500 House Rent (Furnished)
1,500 Groceries+ Misc exps. (You can purchase newly second hand items lesser than the amount)
1,600 Car Hire / OR Loan installment + Petrol
33 Land Line Rent
50 Mobile Rent OR Prepaid Card (This is up to you how much you want to call your relatives & friends)
150 Water Charges
150 Electricity
200 Internet at home
75 Television Channel Connection
120 VOIP Call Card to call home country
200 Car Insurance (2500/12)if you own your car
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13,578 Total
One Time Exps.
1,000 Deposit for Water Connection
1,000 Deposit for Ele. Connection
9,500 House Rent Deposit
2,800 Driving Classes Fees (Appx.) - Full course fee
Thanks for the replies .... now we're getting somewhere hehe.
We're a family of three. They will also cover schooling, which is great, since we have a 2 yr old.
I think it's okay, since they will cover all major costs.
At the moment, we're looking at saving about 2000QAR. DH will also have to find a job once we are there.
I have requested a detailed breakdown of all the extra's they will be covering, so I'm waiting to hear back from them. If they cover all major expenses (housing, schooling, transport, relocation, medical) ... 6400QAR + DH's salary are not to bad (I think).
The only way to determine if it's a decent package is to try and assess your living costs and determine how much you would be able to save. That's what the majority of people are in Qatar for....to save.
It's difficult to fix on a salary as there are so many extras (as others have mentioned) such as education allowance for kids, housing, transport, possibly a furnishing grant etc.
Nearly two-third of Qatar's population consists of males, reflecting a very low female sex ratio overall. Like other Gulf countries this fact can be attributed to the presence of higher number of expatriate male workers' population living as singles. The female sex ratio on the contrary is low to very low in old Doha area and in the out side urban areas. Exceptionally, the industrial area of Zone 57 has just 3 females per 1000 of males. This spatial variation in sex ratio explains some of the obvious characteristics of population distribution in the country."
that is more or less QAR6.5K. i think that's a bit low, but if they pay for your accom and schooling for your kids (your two biggest expenses),you could be making some saving...maybe just get them to specify the nature of the perks; i.e. accom=flat or villa, transport= ?. also, do they provide you with return tickets per year for you and your family?
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Relocation allowance is often an allowance paid to you that will ease your relocation to Qatar. It could cover a level of personal effects or similar.
yeah in some cases, nationality plays important factor in level of salary. Racial discrimination issue AGAIN...
even i didnt complete my first year in qatar but it was obvious that the nationality is a big factor in salary rates.
but i have one question about the relocation, can somebody tell me what is that???
Oh, sorry, I see South African now! Yes, don't be afraid to politely negotiate - tell them what your salary is now, they will respect that.
Mandi
Thanks for your replies Mandi and to the boys .... please grow up!
We're South African .... opportunities for white South Africans are very limited in South Africa, so we are a bit 'desperate' at this stage. But, I'll negotiate for more ... !
I was SOOOO in a different page :O
Ha Vegas, see my comment above... it is tooooooooo easy!
You can't teach experience...
PS, Prada, is your hubby's nationality US? There can be some issues with your sponsoring a husband while he is working. You need to check this out as well.
Mandi
Prada, do NOT come for less than you are making in the US. The standard recruitment package for Americans is your current salary plus 25% overseas benefit plus housing, transportation, tickets, medical and schooling for up to three children. You're being low-balled, honey, negotiate for more! You won't have the chance later, believe me.
Mandi
Drac said:
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cost of living here in Doha:.
This will help you to calculate your monthly savings and expected salary:
Housing Rent is little bit high in Qatar. Whether you live in decent place then you have to be ready to spend around 7500 to 9500 for 3 room apartment.
QAR (Per Month) For 2 Persons
9,500 House Rent (Furnished)
1,500 Groceries+ Misc exps. (You can purchase newly second hand items lesser than the amount)
1,600 Car Hire / OR Loan installment + Petrol
33 Land Line Rent
50 Mobile Rent OR Prepaid Card (This is up to you how much you want to call your relatives & friends)
150 Water Charges
150 Electricity
200 Internet at home
75 Television Channel Connection
120 VOIP Call Card to call home country
200 Car Insurance (2500/12)if you own your car
____________
13,578 Total
One Time Exps.
1,000 Deposit for Water Connection
1,000 Deposit for Ele. Connection
9,500 House Rent Deposit
2,800 Driving Classes Fees (Appx.) - Full course fee
250 Mobile activation Charges (Life Time)
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14,550 Total
Hope this clarifies your query
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http://www.qatarliving.com/answers/cost-of-living/how-much-should-i-expect-to-save-in-20000-pm
Thanks for the replies .... now we're getting somewhere hehe.
We're a family of three. They will also cover schooling, which is great, since we have a 2 yr old.
I think it's okay, since they will cover all major costs.
At the moment, we're looking at saving about 2000QAR. DH will also have to find a job once we are there.
I have requested a detailed breakdown of all the extra's they will be covering, so I'm waiting to hear back from them. If they cover all major expenses (housing, schooling, transport, relocation, medical) ... 6400QAR + DH's salary are not to bad (I think).
Oh yes...
IF SINGLE.
Prada,
Package is fine in itself, it combines all major costs, hence you will be able to set aside little.
But you will not be living like a king.
If your salary back home is equal, stay away. If this is a major improvement ... why not.
The only way to determine if it's a decent package is to try and assess your living costs and determine how much you would be able to save. That's what the majority of people are in Qatar for....to save.
It's difficult to fix on a salary as there are so many extras (as others have mentioned) such as education allowance for kids, housing, transport, possibly a furnishing grant etc.
Prada , Without knowing your personal profile,and the job profile you are being hired, how can one comment whether the package is good or bad?.
Two major expenses are housing and School.which is coverd is good.
whats the size of your family?
whts the range of saving you are looking at?
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Any suggestions of where I can get an answer to my original question?
LOL ...... or if there's any female out there (from the same planet), that does understand my question (which was in clear English), please answer me!
Hehehehe.
Grrrrrr!
Drac said:
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YES!there are only males on Doha.
"
Nearly two-third of Qatar's population consists of males, reflecting a very low female sex ratio overall. Like other Gulf countries this fact can be attributed to the presence of higher number of expatriate male workers' population living as singles. The female sex ratio on the contrary is low to very low in old Doha area and in the out side urban areas. Exceptionally, the industrial area of Zone 57 has just 3 females per 1000 of males. This spatial variation in sex ratio explains some of the obvious characteristics of population distribution in the country."
http://www.gisqatar.org.qa/alkhabar/Spring99/census.html
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Come on people, I'm actually quite serious.
I do find (some) of your comments funny, but I would like to get a clear/honest answer.
Please.
Are there only males on this site ..... huh?
"What is considered a good package"
Euhmm....
I think above 16 CM is considered a "good package".
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.drac, uv got a point......
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another day, another pay
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LOL Dracula!!!
I also thought it was a bit low. I'm now on almost tripple that in my country, but offcourse not have any ohter benefits.
Thanks Dukes. I will ask them to send me a more detailed breakdown of what they're offering.
But overall, I think I need to negotiate for a bigger basic.
that is more or less QAR6.5K. i think that's a bit low, but if they pay for your accom and schooling for your kids (your two biggest expenses),you could be making some saving...maybe just get them to specify the nature of the perks; i.e. accom=flat or villa, transport= ?. also, do they provide you with return tickets per year for you and your family?
hope this helps.
Drac said:
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you CANT buy Prada anymore!
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I think it's small
Don't think gays are interested in women! LOL
I'm an Office Manager, but was offered an Executive PA position.
Have no idea of the value of 1800USD in Qatar.
depends on what kind of job you will be doing.
if it's a gay bar dancer then its not enough...lol...joke only...peace
I have to add that they provide accommodation. Not an allowance.