Salary Deduction for 3 Days Eid Holiday

afsunder
By afsunder

I took a 2 week leave which coincided with the 3 days Eid-el-Fitr holiday in the middle.


The company deducted my salary for these 3 days saying that the holiday fell within my leave so i was not not entitled to it as 'paid holiday'.


Is it true that the Qatar Labour Law for this section has been interpreted as such?

By alexam• 28 Sep 2011 05:02
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alexam

Oh yeah. I've been missing that spirit for the past 20 years of my life. And yet here I am still toiling to make both ends meet. I need to because I don't have a choice. But sooner or later I have to get back to the place where I belong. A place called The Pearl of the Orient Seas. And no matter what, it is my home. A place where my heart is.

By afsunder• 27 Sep 2011 22:58
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afsunder

bravo alexam.... for your wise observation and deep anthropological and geographical knowledge; although you are missing the connection of eid spirit with being in Qatar....

(I shall not touch the rest of your 'delightful' comments in case they become stale)

By flor1212• 27 Sep 2011 18:07
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flor1212

in other countries also.  You need to be present on the day BEFORE the public holiday, otherwise you the public holiday will be a NO PAY. Just as Cherukkan say.But you can try to file a complaint. So you will know the official law yourself and not rely on anyone of us.Simple as this, if you file for your annual vacation, all Fridays are included since it will be part of the CALENDAR days of your vacation.Next time, if you will take your vacation, leave on the first day of Eid, NOT BEFORE, it means that you will have a longer vacation and the number of Eid days will be paid.

By alexam• 27 Sep 2011 17:21
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alexam

afsunder your profile says you're a Singaporean. What are you doing here man? You are sleeping on a bed of roses and suddenly you chose to sleep on a bed of nails. And now you're complaining of the uneasiness of your unpredictable decision. Get back Jojo. This is not the place where you belong. And every genuine Singaporean knows that home is where your heart is. A place called the Garden of the Far East and The Shopper's Paradise of the Orient Seas.

By hms• 27 Sep 2011 17:05
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hms

is absolutely correct, that is how leaves will be calculated.

By afsunder• 27 Sep 2011 16:52
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afsunder

Legend 525... you have a point also... and now I realised that the 3-days per year unnamed holiday I am entitled to was never extended to me (and other staff) all these years.... so, guess may be I have my recourse for some consolation after all.

I hope they will not argue on that one also and refuse my entitlement, otherwise....

By jpa• 27 Sep 2011 16:52
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jpa

Notwistanding the provisions of Article Number 2, the Article Number 78 of the Qatar Labour Law is clear and concise. Your company has violated the law by deducting the 3 days Eid El Fitr holiday.You may go to the Ministry of Labour and file a complain, but you should be prepared for the 'unwritten' consequences, because the likes of cherukkan are abundant in Doha.    

By nishat2011• 27 Sep 2011 16:43
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nishat2011

yes,u can either prefix or postfix public holidays to annual vacation or whatever leave u avail,to take maximum benefit.,but apply for leave from the working day..u need to adjust n plan ur leave in such a way..if any holidays fall in between ur vacation,they r considered a part of ur leave..bad luckk..better luck next time..

By just1s• 27 Sep 2011 16:39
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just1s

cherukkan,Cherukkan, is absolutely right. its a same thing impose in my company.We usually avoid those holidays to be fall in between of leave.Like for example IF the eid holidays is 456, the coverage of the leave should be as follows:leave vacation date:1 up to 3 (but you will resume back at 7)orleave vacation date:7 up to 10 (you can go from 4 up to 10)Still the 3 days is paid. hope this one is not confusing!

By Legend525• 27 Sep 2011 16:37
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Legend525

This smells like a SCAM by some companies to suck some blood out of the employee. The payroll in and out system is dust in the eyes to fool the employee. If the companies are practicing this unwritten rule then the written rule should override it which is that 3 days of EID is fully paid public holiday.

So what if the employee is on a travel during the EID for business leave, conference leaves or some good companies even provide emergency leave for death in the family? I’m sure there will be some makeup internal rule to benefit that company. 

 

By Enigma• 27 Sep 2011 16:31
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Enigma

All Nationals holiday in Qatar is fully paid salary. there no exception in between.even employee took leave except unathorize absence.Your company was wrong..

By afsunder• 27 Sep 2011 16:30
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afsunder

Okay I got it Cherukkan... basically, to be entitled I had to be in the payroll during  that period.

Guess I have to accept the sad reality that i took the leave 'cause of the celebration and got deducted for it instead.

Actually it was not the money I felt bad about, it was more for the lack of 'spirit' that there is no exception even for that special once or twice a year occasion.........

By cherukkan• 27 Sep 2011 16:25
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cherukkan

Raven, Some Companies will consider it if the Eid holidays are falling at the end of the leave but not all. They (the Companies) are looking for a chance like this to pay less to their employees as there is nothing to prove they are wrong. In your case the Company would have considered your leave until the day before eid and you were not able to join because of the Eid holidays.

By cherukkan• 27 Sep 2011 16:17
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cherukkan

Afsunder,

For eg. You are on annual leave with 21 days paid leave for 21 days and eid is falling in between. You are already paid for those 3 holidays. If you are on a 2 week unpaid holiday then also you are not entitled to get any payment in those 2 weeks even if there are official holidays in between as you are on unpaid leave. In order to get the 3 eid holidays you should be in the payroll and if you were going the day before eid and your leave was starting after the eid holidays then you are entitled. If eid was falling at the end then you should have joined the day before eid to get the holidays as well as salary for those three days. I hope you understand.

This is the unwritten law which is justifiable by the Company and I dont think you will get anything out of it if you go for a case.

By Raven1968• 27 Sep 2011 16:11
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Raven1968

I'm not an HR Manager and I took leave last year with Eid tacked on the end and got paid my full salary....its not my job to know the Labor Rules, thats what our HR Team are for and to advise on....I don't doubt what you are saying mate as I don't profess to know the rules but find it hard to believe, again not surprised in this country!!

By cherukkan• 27 Sep 2011 16:08
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cherukkan

Daffodils, you are misinterpreting the law, just read my previous post.

By afsunder• 27 Sep 2011 16:05
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afsunder

Dear Cherukkan, your argument is exactly what the company told me... but the basis of it.... is it just a widespread uncontested practice, or is there any valid legal and statutory interpretation for it.....?

By cherukkan• 27 Sep 2011 16:05
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cherukkan

Raven, Your profile shows you are a Manager and you dont know the Company rules and regulations? Eid holidays are fully paid public holidays if you are on the payroll (if you are working). You are temporarily out of the payroll when you are on leave even if it is a paid leave or unpaid leave.

By daffodils2009• 27 Sep 2011 16:04
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daffodils2009

Article (78) The worker shall be entitled to annually, leave with full wage as follows: 1. Three working days for Eid EI-Fitr 2. Three working days for Eid Al-Adha 3. One working day for the Independence day 4. Three working days to be specified by the employer. If the circumstances of the work require the employment of the worker during any such leave days the provisions of article (75) of this law shall be applied to him.

By cherukkan• 27 Sep 2011 15:59
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cherukkan

If the three holidays were before the starting of your leave then you are entitled to get the salary. If those three holidays were at the end of your holidays then you are not entitled. In the second case you should have joined at least the day before the Eid holidays. In your case you are not entitled as the Eid holidays were in the middle of your leave.

By Raven1968• 27 Sep 2011 15:58
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Raven1968

what crap, EID is a fully paid public holiday....as Legend said above!!

By Legend525• 27 Sep 2011 15:54
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Legend525

your company is wrong. They should not include the EID with annual leave or unpaid holidays. EID is public holidays and fully paid unless you work on EID and get over time for it. check with labor department. but i'm certain on this.

By liefern60• 27 Sep 2011 15:53
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liefern60

Yes , its correct Qatar labour rule

By avaya• 27 Sep 2011 15:44
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avaya

afsunder, you are entitled for that three days as well. According to my knowledge, no holidays are being exempted from salary other than "Leave without pay".

By avaya• 27 Sep 2011 15:41
avaya

Arabian Princes, haven't you received your full salary for the month of August?Were you been paid for only 29 days? If so, better change the company.

By Arabian princess• 27 Sep 2011 15:23
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Arabian princess

yes its correct...it is a public holiday so will not be entitled to receive any salary for these 3 days

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