Petrol in Qatar : Premium or Super?

Premium is OR 90

Super is OR 97

Use fuel of the octane rating recommended in your car's owner's manual. There is no added value and in fact more pollution produced if you use fuel of a higher OR than recommended.

BTW - Just if your information it is not "TATA" it is "Tau Lambda Tau Lambda" as their sign is "ΤΛΤΛ" they use Greek Characters :P

Anyway it's same same but different :P

If you havent noticed. Those VVTis or EVo or VX taggings and so on dont mean a thing. An for all those OVER-KILL grunks.....Modding is not really hip in qatar.

My handbook is in Korean.

Anyone know what "plemium" is in Korean ?

read your manual. manufacturer knows better what your car needs. Like a man knows what he wants on a woman....

The 46 opened windows produces a very high level of safety and extremely high torsional strength.

The handling and aerodynamics of this high-end TATA bus were optimised for high speeds in the wind tunnel.

The aerodynamic concept follows that of the TATA bus, with an air/46windows brake integrated into the boot lid, an enclosed underbody and a diffusor (missing spare tyre) in the rear bumper to ensure the greatest possible downforce on the rear axle.

The so-called air/46windows splitter at the front end augments this downforce, while missing wheel spoilers reduce turbulence at the rear axle.

The result is precise handling and steering at high speeds.

Thanks to favourable aeroacoustics, hindi/nepali conversation during open-air journeys is still possible at well over 200 km/h.

Its a 46 seater TATA bus , fully loaded with workers. The windows will have to be open and the spare tyre under tghe rear will have to be missing.

I am scheduling the race for the summer, so the passengers gasp for air (lack of A/C) and thus hopefully slow it down.

Salax..

No chickens.. They will just cross the road and cause problems..

When is the race man? My TATA is ready to kick ***

SUPER has an octane value of 97 while PREMIUM has an octane value of 95. So, here in Qatar, SUPER is a better quality petrol, and is a little more higher priced! But most cars manual suggested octane value is 91!!! So, according to that, you can use any Petrol available in Qatar.

You're a genius. I could weld the doors ala "dukes of Hazzard" and NASCAR.. Gives more rigidity to the chassis, thus allowing for better and faster cornering. Should be able to outpace te TATA bus.

Problem: The car has electric windows...How do I get in and out ?

better Duct Tape the Car up a bit before you pull those G's

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Super idea. Where can I get this 98 octane in Doha ? May get a few litres as an "Xmas prezzie" for my KIA...

It depends upon economy. I would shudder to think what a waste it would be to put 98 out in UK. they are working hard to push E10's and likes of those piss into fuel. Simple: cant afford to put out 98 octane out there. Simply not intelligible to do so. Not like its fuel for lambies only. All cars can do with a hit of 98s in their lifetime.

lolzzz now only watchin ur adv :) office blockd youtube !! anyway really funny :))))))

TATA is in.. Anything that can just about outpace a Mahindra is to be admired.

Please remember.. Stock engine only, no taped on additional exhaust systems and the passengers must hae the windows open when racing..

Easy boys. TATA bought Land Rover and Jaguar. So show my TATA some respect. I'm moving up in the cars ladder.

could ever give ya.....

Sell yer spanner set.....Its worth more than the heap o' crap kia

"A man may fight for many things.His country,his friends,his principles,the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child.

But personally,I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sackful of porn."

Blackadder.

Brit are you sure that is still a KIA after all of that?? LMAO.....

Cheers

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Heard your wife left you,

How upset you must be.

But don't fret about it...

She moved in with me.

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We "car nuts" don't talk about horsepower per se.. We use terms like "ponies"..

My KIA has an extremely small block engine with 99 cubic inches of raw power , giving about ten yorkshire ponies..

Take into account the go faster stripes and strategically placed arial, it can beat an 11 year old RAV 4.

u wanna sale ur civic ? :))

I was going to strip and blueprint the engine. Install a Garrett twin Turbo with tubular manifold. An enlarged titanium wastegate with a new Blow off valve. Secondary fuel injectors, aluminum water pump and alternator pulleys and a heavy Duty Clutch with launch control.

But I don’t have a spanner set :(

Indian English:

"Same Same but Different, no problem"

Yaiikksss... so that the reason why TATA is world class.. Hhhmmmmm.. very interesting..

Woohooo.. Brit thanks mate... as long as there is no engine modification eh.. hhmmm.... what can you do with a KIA.

Cheers

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Heard your wife left you,

How upset you must be.

But don't fret about it...

She moved in with me.

So, a TATA can run on either without difference in performance..

Interesting!

Define which is higher Super or Premium

American English:

"Premium"

British English:

"Super"

Indian English:

"Same Same but Different, no problem"

just my 3 cents :P Merry Christmas to all!!!

What about my TATA?

Anyone driving such a chariot is in..

Perhaps a new group is in the offing;

KIDS -Kia International Drivers Society

Welcome.. You're now one of the KIDS

There are only two rules..

You must drive or have access to a KIA

You must use high octane fuel

Your KIA must not have engine modifications

OK.. There are only THREE rules..

Brits now I have a KIA Rio... can I now join the race... Please pretty please...

Cheers

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Heard your wife left you,

How upset you must be.

But don't fret about it...

She moved in with me.

I'm wearing an Addidas tracksuit and running shoes when driving..

And I've also filed down and made the side mirrors more aerodynamic.

SPECTRA.... Even the name sounds sexy and induces images of eroticism...SPECTRRRRRRRAAAAA! I'm smitten..

This is my favourite car advert of all time:

A must see for Pajju.....

I found britexpat's KIA

http://www.funnyville.com/funny-commercials/kia.html

"bad link".. Like my KIA..:(

Dracula: Nice ....... Will take hammer to my KIA and try to streamline before the race..

- radio

- horn

- steering pump

- all breaks

- all doors

- chassis

.

you need the engine+gearbox and the steering wheel.

And KIA logo!

On a serious note.. I used to have an XJS and I changed the oil every 2000 kms.

Any way, back to the KIA, engines must be standard for the race..

I've disconnected the A/C in order to boost power.:)

What do they change every 1000 Kms? engine?

Not for a KIA.. It's every 1000 kms..

I thought Full serivce was done every 50,000 Km

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Well over here in Qatar is full serve...means someone will fill up ur car with patrol....ok :)

Cheers !!!

If "self serve" means you have to fill it yourself. Then

"They Serve" should mean someone fills your car up for you.

"Full serve" should mean a full tank and "Half Serve" a half tank..

Canadian english is so confusing ..

In runs on Dreams and Happy thoughts

never a prayer though

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Ass tighter than a scotsman wallet.

The specs make it faster than my KIA. Does it run on un leaded ?

I'm sure I saw the same vehicle parked outside a chippy in Wishaw.

BIG GREEN SKIP?!

It is a Beautiful piece of vehicle, It's streamlined wind tunnelled go fast design. With elegant curvature on the front, and ass tighter than (insert tight assed persons name here).

0-60 in Eventually

0-100 in Theory

4 Beefy cylinders (well ovals)

2.0 Ltr engine that goes *broom sput broom*

Skip indeed, i almost... What's the point. Your right;)

But it is British Racing Green, has that going for it. hehe

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the beautiful English countryside...The green trees,the nice sunny day, the smooth tarmac roads and a car driving on the correct side of the road.

Pity the picture of niceness was spoiled by somebody parking a big green skip in the foreground.....:D

"A man may fight for many things.His country,his friends,his principles,the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child.

But personally,I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sackful of porn."

Blackadder.

Brit I see driving at Warp Speed has got u Loonier as ever this morning :)

Drac can probably just fly past us in bat mode - instead of using the blood mobile..

Y dont u hook up the Kia with some "NoS" to have a BANG up time :P

Canadian English is based on English English, I thought?

Full serve...someone fills your car up for you and self serve you have to fill it yourself. Here, you have an option and the price is the same. In some American states, there is only full service and you get in trouble if you try to fill the car up yourself!

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Veni, Vedi, Visa ~ I came, I saw, I shopped

with my HONDA, as a specter... still having no idea how races go so might take some notes at the sidetrack :-)

Dracula will ofcourse be driving his mobile blood unit made by "Boo-eeeck"

I shall be in my KIA, which has just been fitted with rear screen wiper, so I can clean the bugs crashing into it..

The propulsion medium will have to be standardized on "Super", although i may quietly add an "accelerant" to boost power and clean teh injectors at the same time..Hold on! Does a KIA have injectors ?

LMAO Drac.. How is your Drac Mobil eh?? still pumping blood in them I see..

Cheers mate

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Heard your wife left you,

How upset you must be.

But don't fret about it...

She moved in with me.

@ brutus: "Chraterrrrr!"

We can hire the Lusail track for a night race.

Yano: The old Saab used to run a 1.6 ltr V4...

Anyway, we are focusing on anything which can do o- 60 mph in less than two minutes..

what i mean is, will someone be fitting himself against a V6/V8 "ponies" if he has 1.8L only?

there should be some classifications, otherwise, some race huh ?! :-)

any kind of engine, but fuel only 100 milliliters

Drac I'll race you.. (Hhmm..... I have to find that ultraviolet flood lights..)

Cheers

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Heard your wife left you,

How upset you must be.

But don't fret about it...

She moved in with me.

i would like to join but only night time race!

I'll take the loser's blood!

LMAO Brit ponies eh.. HHmm... I like the idea of racing in The Pearl.. let see whose joining us eh.

1. Britexpat

2. MP

3. BC

4. Samael

Cheers

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Heard your wife left you,

How upset you must be.

But don't fret about it...

She moved in with me.

Where's my Canadian Dictionary ????????????

Are the gas stations full serve?

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Veni, Vedi, Visa ~ I came, I saw, I shopped

My wee Green Machine will make Destroy you all... It has 11 years experience of shoosting down the roads

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super 4 more power.

Super is better specially for big cars.

so what's cooking under the hood? how much horse power you've got there?

I'll have to get those Aerodynamic and speed enhancing plastic hub caps for my KIA..

http://autoworld.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/

Bring out your souped up Dacia and join us...

again the old trick with "Kia - quick business"? :)

I am saddened that you find such a serious and enlightening topic funny...

I fyou have a KIA beater, perhaps you can join our race of champions..

Although I couldn't understand half the talk ia can say that this is funnier than the funnies.

Nor when she comes across a man driving a KIA with go faster stripes :)

Babe Magnet!

let's ROCK n ZOOMIN...

broooommmmmmmmmmmmm LOL

britexpat we need to give this event a proper dazzling name. Any suggestions?

She likes a younger man in shorts.

"A man may fight for many things.His country,his friends,his principles,the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child.

But personally,I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sackful of porn."

Blackadder.

put on a show for the visitors..

Bring it on boys.

I dont have a car, but by drinking some stella beer, i will be able to run faster than yer piece of crap kia :D

"A man may fight for many things.His country,his friends,his principles,the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child.

But personally,I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sackful of porn."

Blackadder.

Super: Leaded fuel with High Octane level

Premium: Unleaded fuel with Lesser Octane Level

As MD said get the one at Airport, your KIA won't cruise but fly ..... hehehe

Your KIA will gain more power & speed if ...... you remove all the letters on the boot. BTW drilling of pedals won't make your vehicle run faster but tyres will be the best.

how about rubbing elbows along the passenger and drivers' seat and put some test into action..

let's say, beating our 0-100KPH /??? secs.

one driver take the test on his baby while the others seats beside to clock him.. and vise versa.

who knows, we might also get to learn a few revving-up the engine tricks here and there...

and get to see as well which is better, premium or super by using them ;-)

how's that??

4 wheel drive makes no difference to whether you should use premium or super. It's about the engine. Higher performance should go for higher octane (i.e. super).

Hehehehe.. sort of Brit.. but your on.. just tell me when and where?? hehehehe..

Cheers mate

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Heard your wife left you,

How upset you must be.

But don't fret about it...

She moved in with me.

Isn't the Suzuki in a higher category than the KIA ?

Anyway, let's bring it on...Winner takes all..

Hey guys count me in... I'm driving a Suzuki Alto

PERFORMANCE

* Maximum speed: 155 km/h

* 0-100 km/h: 14 s

* Fuel consumption (Combined): 4,5 l/100 km

* CO2 emissions (Combined): 103 g/km

I'm using Super. will race you anytime of the day Brit.

Cheers

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Heard your wife left you,

How upset you must be.

But don't fret about it...

She moved in with me.

4wheel drives and premium for rest....reason quite obvious better and long lasting performance!

I just raced a Tata loaded up with workers..

It just managed to beat my KIA... However, with high octane fuel, adjusted tyre pressure and rear seats removed, I think I can win...

He.hee.hee.. (rubs hands in glee)

...posting in an epic thread

Ok.. Load it with fifty passengers and I'll bring my car...

so it's harry99, techdoctor, britexpat and me in race ?

Did I mention it’s a 26 passenger TATA?

Samael said that Premium is cleaner..

super is btr but its more expenisve. its is btr bcuz it went through better filters during the process so its cleaner and smoother.

Damn.. (thinks silently)

If i remember correctly, that is slightly faster than a Mahindra Tractor with supercharger, slicks and a tail wind..

I just realised , I am doing my hair that day.. Will get back to you..

Well that’s the spirit.

TATA 1.009 GT, Twin Turbo

Sounds like a good idea..what venicle will I be racing against ??

Also, i need advance warning, so I can Polish up the car in order to decrease wind resistance and enhance acceleration.

If you guys are racing, I would like to participate with my bicycle - stripes and all that.

Brite, just fuel up with Premium and save some dough. Might help in these Mad-off days. If you try too hard there is the risk of the KIA losing it's stripes. Might just peel off due to wind resistance. There is also the risk of losing warranty (if it got any!) if you fuel up with something that was not recommended by the Koreans.

We should arrange a race.

britexpat...gosh ...your Kia is kicking up a storm....lol

britexpat....24V might indicate the power supply rating for the stereo & lights.

Paul ..."Yer still not gonna tear up the tarmac".....lol

someone call it a Korean piece of sh*t!. So what do you call a person using this sh*t?

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

Playing QBS automatically reduces a cars horsepower by half. You should probably try to find a petrol station that sells petrol with an octane rating of around 40 - that is all your KIA is good for.

In order to reduce the weight of the car and ensure higher speed, I have drilled the pedals, gone for much lighter furry dice and done away with the stereo.. I only have a radio which only plays QBS..

Mmmm.... tough one. What wattage is your stereo? And are the windows tinted?

Thanks for the update..

Hoewever , since my KIA has go faster stripes, bonnet air scoop (false) and low profile tires to make it go faster. It also has lots of letters on the boot like VVTi, 24V, V16 which i don't understand.. Should I still go with Premium ?

From wikipedia (so it must be true ;-)

The octane rating is a measure of the resistance of gasoline and other fuels to detonation (engine knocking) in spark-ignition internal combustion engines.

High-performance engines typically have higher compression ratios and are therefore more prone to detonation, so they require higher octane fuel. A lower-performance engine will not generally perform better with high-octane fuel, since the compression ratio is fixed by the engine design.

So Brit, it doesn't seem worth paying the extra to put Super in your Kia.

i agree with TALIG.

Does not the octane refer to the level of lead in the petrol ?

I don't think one burns cleaner than the other. The octane rating is just a measure of the fuels ability to burn, and how much it can be compressed before igniting. If your car engine has a high compression ratio you should use a higher octane fuel.

Don't we have like Some 1 working in QP or something to answer this question for us once in for all !!!!

if the engine is brand new, say less than 3 years old, then use super to prolong it's working life.

but after 3 years or so, using premium won't matter much.

so follow the manual instruction if it's brand new.. period!

well, what the heck! super is still cheap compared to our petrols' cost back home...more cheaper than water still :-)

Now I am more confused.

If Premium is a cleaner fuel, then it should cost more to make, hence should be more expensive.... Shouldn't it ?

Looking at it another way.. I am paying more for a fuel , so that I can pollute more ??

Does not make sense.... Does it ??

Research into trade-offs of using higher octane.... That should answer your query.

I'm in a wee quandry here.. Ofcourse I want my KIA engine to last, but the loss of performance means inability to overtake..

I'll have to bite the bullet and go with Super..

Premium is simply a cleaner Fuel, the downturn of this is you do slightly loose on performance, but enough that the average person will notice.

I have always used premium in my car, and my injectors and block are sparkling.

It depends what you want out of your car, if you want to see how fast and quick you can get it to go fast, then do super.

If you want your engine to last longer then do premium (it's also recommended that if you use Super, to fill it with premium every 4th fill or so) cleans out the gunk

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Of course I'm looking for performance, whilst trying to do my bit for the environment and global warming.. Why else would I be driving a KIA ?

well, if you think environmentaly , to save energy, save nature, save car parts, get higher performance, less emissions , then use higher ocatne or super.

but if want to be less freindly with the envirnmont use less octane number which is the premium.

there are actually fuels which are more than 100 octane number, so you may think of that as well.

anyway , it is all about your philosophy (or no philosphy) in life.

Have you ever filled up your car in the UK? Trust me.. it doesn't figure..

I just put £20 into my Dad's on hols in the UK and it filled nearly third of the tank. That's erm, ok, the Maths is beyond me, but you get my point:)

Premium is 95 octane and more than good enough for my car. Petrol sold in the UK, remember, is 95 and noone thinks there is anything wrong with that. To be honest, the 98 is only really for Lamborghinis or something of that ilk, if you want to see the benefit of it.

the SUPER is better but costs a little more. :]

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Stand up for what you believe in even if you stand up alone

Have we deduced that Super is better then? Brit Ex and Tallg.. once again, a question I repeatedly asked my small brain which somehow didn't make it to the outside.:)

Super, Super, Super, S

I understand premium spells 'FINE' Then again Super is sort of 'FINER'.

Then again Either will be fine. You dont have the crap E10 or vblend and all that. Its plain simple high octane fuel without all the fan fare.

You've saved the day.. I'll burn off to there and get fill up the KIA...,

Supremebeing...

Actually it's more like minutes.. Yesterday an Indian guy on a bike tried to race me... I beat him though, when the wind picked up..

Brit, they have 104 octane fuel at the airport!

both are good in Qatar

super more expensive and higher quality

so how many seconds -or else- from 0 to 100 you get in it?

The high performance engine in my KIA probably requires 99, but it's not avauilable here :(

Technically speaking it is the Octane rating specified by the manufacturer that determines which one to use for your vehicle. If the manufacturer's recommendation is 90 then you don't get any extra benefit by filling 95, but if it is 95 you need to fill 95..

Premium is better...i think its more environmental friendly...

Aircraft carrier.....

Korean piece of sh1te

"A man may fight for many things.His country,his friends,his principles,the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child.

But personally,I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sackful of porn."

Blackadder.

You don't understand.. I've put on go faster stripes and a hood scoop..

You don't understand.. I've put on go faster stripes and a hood scoop..

Yer still not gonna tear up the tarmac !

"A man may fight for many things.His country,his friends,his principles,the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child.

But personally,I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sackful of porn."

Blackadder.

Get a KIA... Can't go fast enough to be caught by the radars..:o)

I always say:

"Full... cheap one..."

(it is a rented car, who cares... anyway I cannot run too much with so many radars everywhere)

War looking for peace,

is like fornication looking for virginity.

We should put these Kia jokes on the Xmas cracker thread

just eat another pie

What do you call a Kia convertible......................a skip

just eat another pie

I take great umbrage at your remarks regarding my beloved KIA..

By the way, why do KIA's have rear window heaters?

To keep your hands warm when you are pushing it.

Do you realise that if you put anything labelled premium in a Kia you will double its value

just eat another pie

Are we talking about fueling up the same rented KIA ?

I think different manufactures make different OR petrol. I'm sure I've seen Super 97, 98, 99 and 100, and there's probably more.

Tallg, thanks ... i was recalling the octane ratings (OR)for both from what i used to see in the UK

tubelight - your original statement was correct; Super is superior to Premium, hence the prices are QR0.80 and QR0.70 per litre respectively.

Oh wise one.. You're correct.. I never noticed..:)

Brit - By dictionary definition, yes it should be.

But it's the same in the UK. Your normal unleaded is actually called Premium 95, and then the more expensive one is Super 97 (I think it's 97). I guess you just never noticed!

i stand corrected but i recall that OR for premium is in 90s and for super it is in 100s..

As I understood, premium is the "regular" or Arab called it "Aady"?? (not sure w/ spelling here).

Super is more expensive and I think cleaner or purer than premium.

Aaaah whatever, as long as car is running :P

If Premium means - "of greater value than others of its kind", then shouldn't it be higher octane and more expensive ??

Ah.. I see.. Haha!

cheers,

paul

r7 - they're both unleaded aren't they? They just have different octane ratings.

Super is supposedly better (higher octane?), hence it costs more.

Err.. I couldn't be sure but all I know is that premium is more refined than super (regular) thus premium keeps your fuel injector cleaner.. Calling all Petrochemical Engineers in QL.. :-P

cheers,

paul

I think super is superior to premium. whenever we fill up, we go for super assuming its octane rating is higher than premium petrol's octane rating

The Super is Unleaded Fuel, which is what most manufacturers recommended..

Its usually specified in your Vehicles Manual..

High Octane is always better than the premium...

Well in Lebanon u have these options:

95

98

normal

super

but the problem is that these 4 are the same petrol....just different names to confuse you!!!

Fill it with Diesel...