Flying vehicles in the old Egypt

Why don't I trip over one of these, for all the time I've been living in Egypt..?:)) Not too pretty, but valuable!

http://www.sacbee.com/832/story/1687693.html

Salam

"There's a big difference between drawing a flying machine (if that is what the drawing is of) and actually building one."

Nowadays everything is built virtually before it turns real

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Nothing is more relaxing than flying like an Eagle in Heaven !!

most of QL users are acting so weird! out of subject most of ur comments! nice article. might be real or no. no one would know. at least he is sharing some info! thanks ... and all of u open ur eyes!

What you said agrees with the rest of the posts before you.

As for proving the existence of God, it is already proven, but only for those who're ready to see and have the desire to willingly submit with joy to the highest power. It’s an absolute freedom.

Unless restlessness is expressed, no one in the whole wide world can or should, uninvitingly, force one to disbelieve, or vice versa. It’s rude and just doesn't work.

Sorry Platao36 for derailing. But Gods and Goddess are also a huge part of Ancient Egypt. In another thread maybe..:)

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Maybe, tallg.

Exactly MD. Who know what the future will bring. Perhaps the existence of God will be proven ;)

Right, tallg. The same applies to 'time machines'. Designed: yes. Built: not yet.

There's a big difference between drawing a flying machine (if that is what the drawing is of) and actually building one.

For example, the concept of helicopters has been around for over 1500 years, but they weren't built until around 100 years ago.

Happy: Thanks for the invitation, maybe next year, if you decide coming to Portugal, I'll gladly show you things around, and can prepare you a typical fish dish that will surelly please you :)

When you come you'll notice that the Portuguese know how to receive foreigners and that we are pretty similar to Italians and egyptrians in temper :)

every_mothers_n: Well it was built around 2300 years ago, but what matters is that it was demonstrated that it could fly.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

yeah mut there is no technical evidence

Aana free, jaana free,

Pakde gaye tho khana free.

The mysteries of the ancient Egyptians are countless. The pyramids and how they were built prove that the ancient Egyptians were geniuses in architecture, engineering and art. The mystery of mummification proves that they were the first anatomists and that they had great knowledge about the human body for their time. Another mystery is the model sailplane or model bird in Egyptian museum.

The story began when the model was discovered in 1898 in a tomb near Sakkara. The model was then categorized as that of a bird and placed in the Egyptian museum in its designated section, with all the other bird models. In 1969 Dr. Khalil Messiha noticed the difference between this model and the rest of the birds. The typical models of the ancient Egyptian birds have legs but this one did not. Other bird models had painted feathers but not this one. The model has a 7-inch wingspan and a vertical tail, not a horizontal one like typical ancient Egyptian bird models. Messiha's brother, a flight engineer, reproduced it in balsa wood and launched it and it flew. Dr. Messiha was then sure it was a model of an airplane not a bird. The model was from the 3rd century BC, from an age of invention that followed the death of Alexander the Great. That so-called Hellenistic period gave us gears, screws, plumbing, control valves, Euclidean geometry, Archimedes, and Ptolemy's astronomy. The hieroglyphs on the model airplane say "the Gift of Amon". Amon in ancient Egypt was known to be the god of wind and air and this was another proof that the model was more then a model bird. In addition to the phrase on the assumed model, the phrase "I want to fly" was found in three papyrus scripts.

There is no solid proof that the Egyptians were first to fly. However, many questions arise from this functioning model. Where the Egyptians the first pilots and did they build the first sailplane? If they did where is it?

1800 years later Leonardo da Vinci was still trying to invent flapping-wing airplanes and corkscrew-driven helicopters. But here, an Egyptian had produced something with all the features of a modern sailplane. If, in the future near or far, more artifacts are to be found proving that the Ancient Egyptians did build a plane and did fly, history will be corrected and the Wright Brothers would be the second to fly. So hold on to your seats Wright Brothers you might have a rough backspin!

My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.

Mmmmm, molokhiya :-)

Platao36, save some money, plan a trip to Egypt and make sure I'm in Cairo at that time.

After you're done with your touristy activists, as planned by your travel agent, you and your family are invited for an Egyptian home-cooked hot meal. This is going to top it all, I promise.

Salam

Happy: lol

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

may be the birds that time had vertical tails.

Aana free, jaana free,

Pakde gaye tho khana free.

No offense will be taken if you said "Byramids". Mind you, I try to have good sports but reality of the matter, most Egyptians are like Italians, hot blooded and short tempered..:)

I'm fighting my genes and I won..:))

Salam

Thanks Happy, i'm a huge fan of the old egyptian civilization :)

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Happy: in the virtual test it could only plane if the establizer was in the tail, without it, it wouldn't plane

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Maybe the guy who carved it was drunk?

All other canvases, paintings and sculpture of birds don't have vertical tail.

Salam

Icarus? lol

Bleu: lol, i was about to write byramids instead of piramids but thought i could offend happy.

PM: Regarding that bird, it was already tested virtually and confirmed it could plane. But also there are no proofs that it was ever used

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

yeah agree wright brothers are recent........well if ur talking abt the bird like creature shown in the pic for me it doesn't look like a aircraft from any angle.

Aana free, jaana free,

Pakde gaye tho khana free.

.. and it was the first 'powered' flight. Others have been sailing through the air before: Lilienthal, Montgolfiere, Icarus (ca 1200 BC, about the times of Ramses II and Moses).

Wright brothers are very recent.

As far as i know the first aeroplane was invented by the Wright brothers and the were americans i belive..........no idea if that was before or after the egyptian's.

Aana free, jaana free,

Pakde gaye tho khana free.

Happy Happy: These unforgettable words come to me whenever I see or hear the word "Pyramids" in English.

In the first place, you're the one who started the hustle and bustle, well-intended, this year..:)

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/394144

Salam

As far as I know, there is no solid proof that Egyptians were first to fly. On the other hand, I’m not totally ruling out, after further research, that we might be the pioneers in this area.

Perhaps in years from now, a new excavation will evidently prove this wrong or right for good.

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Happy Happy, compliments for your attitude. Lol.

Zis is how some off us sbeek..Simbel and funy.

As for the “carvings” I agree about those in the first link. I’m not comfortable with them. The second one is true though.

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Sorry,

I just can't forget "Byramids, nice wezar, nice food, za circle street and za mehwar street.."...

These carvings seem fake, or recently modified.

It wouldn't surprise me if we, Egyptians, had an early model for a plane back in the history.

In 2600 BC we invented a type of air condition called Cheops ships (solar ships), black ink (before Christ), paper, writing, year calendar..etc

Let alone make up, jewelry from gold and ivory, and bathing in milk like Ms. Cleopatra. Who needs body scrubs?..:))

Salam

I wouldn't say they are 100% accurate but they make us wonder

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Happy Happy: You are making me jeallous, i'm wishing so much to visit the museum, the piramids, valley of kings, etc...

Like i stated, it was built a virtual model on a program at Odissey channel about this 1st plane and it could fly.

Brit: I have that book, they also mention that the charriot of fire that it's refered on the bible would make sounds pretty similar to the present planes and also spoke of drawnings at a cave that would show a person using a space suit.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

I won't say either way, but some of the arguments are compelling. I felt that they may be relevant to Palatao's questions.

Do you believe its content ?! Majority of scientists and historians do not. Humble me, I don't either.

Salam

Anyone read "Chariots of the Gods"..

It explains all.

Interesting post. Regarding your second link, the argument is that wildlife; animals, fish, birds, and cattle ..etc. was heavily represented in Ancient Egypt. But there is a particular display in the Egyptian museum that is very similar to a plane. It is the tail of this object that is controversial and makes it more than just a bird.

It’s commonly called the "Sakkara’s bird”. Dates back to 200 BC, but was only excavated in the 19th century.

It is displayed in the upper floor of Egyptian Museum. I can barely recall seeing it from my last visit to the museum, as I was exhausted with all the beauty and details.

I get fixated on King Tut's room!

Salam

Any special reason for hijacking this post?

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

I am still the same old female..lol. Have not undergone any sex-change operation yet.

BTW, I really have seen that particular vehicle, if I am not wrong it is some red coloured SUV.

Life is never boring, but some people choose to be bored.... Boredom is a choice. - Wayne W.

Oh! then this might be you shreeya... I saw your pic in WTF in Doha: Facebook..

(http://www.facebook.com/photo_search.php?page=9&oid=6085776790&aid=-1&auser=&view=all#/photo.php?pid=348982&op=14&o=all&view=all&subj=6085776790&aid=-1&oid=6085776790&id=506936682)

I saw one flying Egyptian vehicle in Qatar tooo...LOL.

It had the following sticker on the rear side 'I love Egypt' and then 'I am not driving fast..I am flying slowly'...lol.

Life is never boring, but some people choose to be bored.... Boredom is a choice. - Wayne W.