6 days of sin, 1 day of 'cleansing'

repenting before means not committing a sin even if you think about it.

what all Muslims are supposed to strive for ?

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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.

Islam is a way of life, and in no way a weekly mosque visit that cleanses your sins.

We should repent before the actual sin.

If we didn't then we should repent immediately.

Any visit to the mosque has nothing to do with it, to repent is a personal issue, that has nothing to do with anybody other than the sinner themself, it's between them and God, a direct relation.

There are also people in this world who don't know anything about attending religious places of worship, yet they truly repent for their sins and change their lives. Does that make them less better than anyone who attends a place of worship?

The truth is that every being(like it or not) is born a sinner. The only way to be cleansed is to repent and do your utmost best that you try not to sin again. However, being imperfect beings, as we are, we will sin in some way or another but shouldn't do so knowingly. Like someone said, which I agree, in Christainity, when you sin, you need to ask for forgiveness immediately. Some things you will not understand with regard to this.

he was talking about the impression left by the once-in-a-week schedule to going to the church. MAybe to some, its their intention. But one always ask forgiveness on a regular basis. Everytime he/she prays!

"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"

"dgoodrebel is not plastic"

Brit: yes, I agree with you and heero, Allah wont clear all your weekly sins just because followers go to His temples once per week, he'll give more value to your intentions/actions than to anything else.

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

I don't think that Heero's interpretation is correct.. I may be wrong, but which religion actually says that the sins will be forgiven if you attend the gathering ..

I gave no mention of you saying atheists cheat on their spouses. I was merely clarifying what Mr Paul had meant when he said sex outside of marriage is ok.

And I did not say, that you said atheists are bad. Who's twisting the words now?

You did say that atheists have no accountability for their actions and then immediately mentioned drinking and driving, as if there was no common sense involved in the decision.

Btw atheists do not "choose" to become atheists, not believing in God is the logical pathway after reviewing all the scientific evidence that has been discovered. We do not choose which science we want to believe in or not. Science is science because it has been proven accurate.

being such in a country, that's where reality sets in what kind of people are you dealing with. But the power of media is turning negative to the west as what is portrayed mostly in media specifically in movies and the like are the negative side (too much freedom and too much taboo things) and the positive values are overcome by the negative one.

But for the example of Paul, yes, I agree that it may connotes a bad impression seeing those yanks. But irregardless of nationalities, any one who don't know where to place what he/she drinks (should be in stomach, not on head), always ends up in trouble! Lol!!!

"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"

"dgoodrebel is not plastic"

...please tell me where I stated that only atheists drink and cheat on their spouse. C'mon I have friends who are atheists. I did not say anywhere that they're 'bad' people. Why are you twisting my words? I've been around longer than you, honey. I doubt there's anything you can teach me about life that I don't already know.

(Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug...)

good friend.

However, as in everywhere, you also see the true stereotypes in action.

Last night,for example, in Rics kountry kitchen, the US navy guys were loud, obnoxious and ended up fighting.

So anybody who saw that would naturally assume that all yanks are like this.

Best not to judge others and get on with yer own lives.

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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.

...that Americans are generally arrogant, they don't really know us. Again, the media has the world believing things about Yanks that are not even close to being true. Anybody who thinks Hollywood and Las Vegas are good representations of what America and Americans are really like is badly mistaken. Personally, I abhor Hollywood and all of its self-centerd, drug addicted, filthy rich snobs. And as far as Las Vegas goes, I've been there once. Don't ever care to go again. It's a place to see at least once in your lifetime, and over the years it has become a very sleazy metropolis.

...and let's not even go into a discussion about our 'fed with a silver spoon' political leaders; other than to say that they're not a good representation of the average American, either. Despite everything, America is a great place to live.

...and so I digress

(Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug...)

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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.

He definitely did not say he cheated on his wife. He said sex outside of marriage is ok. As in, you don't have to be married to have sex.

And saying atheists drink and drive, now what kind of world are you living in? Just because atheists don't answer to your higher power, doesn't mean they don't have a brain to know what can potentially put other people in danger or not. I think you need to meet some actual real life atheists and see what nice people they are. And btw, they are nice out of choice, not because of any threat looming over them.

...people shouldn't discuss: Religion and Politics. You can't judge a person solely on their religious beliefs; or on their race or ethnicity; or on their political views. One American is not another; one Brit is not another; one Arab is not another. Look at the mafia. They're basically Italian Catholics... That doesn't make all Italians murderers nor all Catholics murderers. It just humors me to think of mafia men sitting in church every Sunday morning. Anyhow, if I judged people based on stereotypes and media influences, I never would have come to the Middle East...

Paul, have a great day!

(Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug...)

and it was always the padre preaching about someone called 'god' and how they will save us all.

If you get hit by a burst of machine gun fire, 'god' wont save you, only a good surgeon.

Anyway, Im digressing slightly,Im am just so sick of religous 'people' on here lecturing me about me not been a good person cos I dont follow a religion,in the same way, you probably get pi$$ed off by everyone assuming ,cos yer a yank, that yer all war mongrers and arrogant.

(Oh, Im not married anymore.)

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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.

and if you are not a good practitioner, then, it shouldn't bother you! Practice what you belief! What we are just asking is total freedom to practice our belief on congregational worship service!

"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"

"dgoodrebel is not plastic"

...but a Bible thumper, I am not. I live my life on what I KNOW is right and good. I didn't say one thing about what is right or wrong in YOUR life! You admitted that cheating on your wife is wrong, and I really couldn't care less if you do cheat on her. I'm not judging you. My, my you're awfully defensive.

Have you ever been to a religious service of any type? It hasn't been my experience that anybody spends any time dictating to the congregation what is right and what is wrong. As I said earlier, most people don't need somebody telling them that. Most people already know. Life is basically about being a good person...and I am not saying atheists can't be good people, either. Relax, Mr. Paul.

(Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug...)

nutter to tell me what is morrally wrong or right. I was raised to respect others religions,beliefs etc.

Marital infedelity is wrong, I know that without some vicar having to tell me so.

Im guessing , you come from the US and are a big bible thumper, thats yer choice, but dont you dare sit there and tell me whats right and wrong in my life.

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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.

...why I believe people to choose atheism. It's the path of least resistance. No accountability for your actions. Drinking isn't a sin; in fact drinking and driving isn't a sin. Killing or injuring someone as a result is a different story. Swearing? Who cares; they're just words. Marital infidelity? Don't you care that you hurt other people by cheating on your wife...unless you're in an open marriage and you both agree that it's okay. Nobody needs religion to be a good person. Goodness should just come naturally but for so many it doesn't, and for so many reasons. Frankly, Mr. Paul, I think you're bs-ing us...

(Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug...)

We dont follow any comic books that tell us what is a sin and what is not, so we cannot sin.Period.Full stop.

I have always admitted I drink, swear, sex outside marriage etc, cos to me, none of those are sins.Only to religious people who follow some rules which say ya cant.

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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.

Wrong. Starting from what you have in mind for 24 hrs a day is important. If you think evil, then you are already comitting a sin. Going to a place of worship is does not guarantee of sin washing. It is only, to be presence at the house of god, for some.

...you two are too funny!

(Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug...)

does that bother you heero in anyway?

You can't teach experience...

I personally think the only "sin" is behaviour that hurts other people emotionally or physically or has some kind of negative affect on other people. Accidental occurrences not included.

Every other "sin" is a construct of the religion you prescribe to and varies according to which religion you follow.

As pop stated don’t waste a good day off...sleep in and fornicate all morning,, (PS it would be better to do it with a partner)

Power to the non believers, it’s a great feeling to have and hold.

i prefer 7 days of sinning, stuff everything else.

The 'religious concept' is still human nature at its best.

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

i cant continue with religion anymore,,,,i get kinda iffy...im a backslider.post something other than religion.thanks

In order for agnostics/atheists to not sin they have to lose the concept of 'sin' by having no religious thingie in themselves at all.

...but sometimes they are far more lesser sinners than the religious ones and I wonder why...

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

what about the aetheists? agnostics?theyre not religious but are they also included?

hmmm........don't think it applies to paganism...or wiccas....or...

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It really applies to all religions.

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

We are ALL sinners just by our human nature!

(Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug...)

BTW, since you separate 'religious' and 'spiritual' on certain reasons...do you think a religious person has a lesser 'spirit' to 'go with the motion'?

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

if referring to everyone,,why mention all places of worship and all kinds of religious leaders?reference is that if youre applying it to a "certain" religion,no need to point out all and "everyone"

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

...between being religious and being spiritual. Spiritual people LIVE with their hearts and minds constantly wrapped around the Supreme Being (God, Allah, whomever yours may be). If they choose to dedicate some time once or twice a week at a specific place to focus on their spirituality, there's nothing wrong with that. Religious people just kind of go through the motions.

And BTW, Christians can repent every second...if they have to.

(Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug...)

From what I've heard, scientologists can repent daily

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that you are,how do you know that everyone is "sinning"during non worship days?and cleansing is just done for a day?

so whats the argument for people who pray outside the places of worship?are they as sinful to those who dont?

It depends on each individual. That's not how I think of my religion at all.

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Those that sin need more than one day to rempent.

Religion to quote, 'is the Opium of the Masses'.

In my opinion, religion should be avoided at all cost.

Going to a place of worship on your day off is a waste of a good lay in.

I will hoist that up the flag pole and see who salutes it!!