Need to know the laws of temporary marrriage in Qatar. If it is permissible under the Local laws for muslims or other groups. Donot curse me for asking this question, it is better than going and picking up from Disco's.
maryfaith ==== i conceded to you. There is no such thing as temporary marriage.
They are just trying to connotes this as lesser evil once a one night stand or living together or a relationship outside marriage (adultery) will be categories as TEMPORARY Marriage..sounds like having a trial and error exercise huh?? or the "famous return or exchange within +__ days"
Muttah is temporary or fixed term marriage and is performed just as a nikah is performed but the only difference is that the term is fixed. A mahr is fixed for this also as in nikah. Moreover the lady with whom mutah is performed should either be a divorcee or a widow. To perform muttah with a virgin is makrooh. Moreover in muttah the consent of the parents or the guardian of the lady is essential. If during the course of the muttah the lady gets pregnant then the offspring will get the name of the father and also his expenditure for his upbringing will be borne by him.
This kind of marriage was practised in the times of our beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w.).
I have some friends, a couple (they are not married) who will come to Qatar to visit me for a week. I would like to take them for a drive thru KSA to UAE while they are here. In Qatar I don't suppose it will be a problem for them not to be married as they are tourists, but in KSA they are probably more strict. That is why I serched under temporary marriage, as I know that it exists in Iran. Because I thought of it as a solution to this problem. So could somebody answer me this, does temporary marriage exist in Qatar?
I have scrolled passed the moral debate - everyone must decide what's right for him/herself.
You know what, first I thought I will put my comments here, but then when I started to think about this topic and after doing some research I found this is not just a simple topic where one could just talk what ever comes to his/her mind.
As far as the concept of "Temporary Marriage" is concerned with todays point of view I strongly oppose it, as it does not have sence in todays world and in the countries I have been living in. I can't comment on those countries that I haven't visited or where I am not aware of the living condition and culture.
But at same time I would recommend for those who are intersted in this topic to do some research on this topic and to understand what it would have ment when it was originally published as part of the religion.
And finally to answer desaim20 question, its not allowed in most of the countires who follow Sunni Law and as I understand its currently active in Iran.
Everywhere woman gets exploited and spoiled if a woman laughs with colleague she will be named ?????? and starts gossipping by men. If the women pleases them and talk them they are so good. If the woman is wise and keep these type of people at arms length then she is oversmart.
For temporary marriage he just trying to see pleasure that is all.
a true person who believe in God will not do like this. If in his family his sister or mother or his wife do this how he will feel. Is he agreeable then it comes honourable.
HOw did i miss this one out.... Well temporary marriages do exist, atleast in my religion. For shias, the only difference is, these marriages are not done for having sex. Alot of people take it in a wrong way or for pleasing, these marriages were done since the times of Prophet Muhammad (saws), the reason was, when the men went on war and died, their wives needed money to support the family and they found asking for money quite embressing and they couldn't get married since marrying only 4 wives were allowed in islam, so they used to do temporary marriages so they can give the money at the time of divorce... it had nothing to do with sex.
By the way, it is not easy to have a temporary marriage, u need 2 suspects, 1 sheikh representing the guy and one sheikh representing the girl and 2 people from each of ur families. Even then, the whole pleasure thing is up to the girl, if she write's in the contract that she wants to have sexual relation, then only u can do anything to her... or her to u. That's temporaray marriage in islam.
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one of my friends did it with a Qatari guy, she married him in his hotel room with 2 indian guys as witnesses, she told me they just recited some words and then they got down to business, she got 40,000 QR for it and a Chopard Diamond set worth 26,000 QR, they stayed married for i think about 1 month, then she left him... I was so angry its sounds like prostitution to me.. but she seemed happy :(:(
read my reply on the previous page. Zawaj l mut3a has nothiing to do with sex and by the way sex is not allowed in this kind of marriage according to most of the Islamic leaders.
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Its simple as that about dozen of members posted on this Topic no one argued with her on that it just because you have problems with her and you dont like her thats why you come up calling her name.
She also said whorse houses mosque i could have argued with her but na i know its real and had happened so FOR CHURCH YEA THE PRIEST ARE GAY AND THERE ARE WHORES TOO.,
If you'd actually read what she said dmighty you'd see she said that people HERE call brothels churches, not that she herself was calling a church a brothel. Geez.
the issue raised in Filexpat was different in the forum that was discussed. As I've said, all my reaction to Gypsy's argument are cultural in nature and in the specific topic discussed, my fellow countrymen agree with me. You can find it out, you have a lot of Filipino friend who can interpret that forum. It is precisely I was raising in that forum, if it happens in our country, that is the natural reaction, in the same way as Gypsy is reacting by her culture, so the heated argument.
If you don't agree with our culture, then give us also the respect to disagree with other culture.
You hate me for saying a bad word to a friend (I even put a maybe) and yet all your post to me right now are also full of hate. Where's the reason Da? I am not making excuses, as I've said, mine is reaction only but if you define it differently, what can I do?
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
Stop with the excuses man i sure can bring up the other topic where you were crying to all the pinoy groups that no one agrees to your f**kin idiotic comments and you were even kicked in your balls there on that same topic.
IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN SIMPLY IGNORE IT YOU DONT GO AROUND INSULTING.
and tell me where the word "local" is. Church is synonymous with God. Church is an organization for God so if you disrespect church, you disrespect God.
Who defines CHURCH as weekend keeper of hookers?
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
dont change your statement she said Church not God. Ppl even hide weapons in Church and Mosque Grow up man get out see the world NOT EVERY PLACE IS PHILIPPINE.
it looks like now if no one agrees with you you just go start cursing them like Rumple. first you go to Pinoy Group and post about Gypsy there and now you are calling Alexa WHHHHHHAT THE OR WHO THE HELL ARE YOU MAN.
Nikah Misyar or "travellers' marriage" (Arabic: نكاح المسيار) is the Sunni Muslim Nikah (marriage) contract carried out via the normal contractual procedure, with the specificity that the wife gives up several of her rights by her own free will, such as living with the husband, equal division of nights between wives in cases of polygamy, rights to housing, and maintenance money ("nafaqa").[1]
The couple continue to live separately from each other, as before their contract, and see each other to fulfil their needs in a halaal manner when they please.
Background and causes
Some people consider that the misyar marriage represents an adaptation of marriage to the needs of people who are not able to marry in the traditional way. In countries such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or the United Arab Emirates, this is usually due to the cost of rents; the high cost of living in general; the high amounts of dowry required; and other similar economic and financial concerns. [2]
This type of marriage could also meet the needs of young people whose resources are too limited to settle down in a separate home; of divorcees, widows or widowers, who have their own residence and their own financial resources but cannot, or do not want to marry again according to the usual formula; and of slightly elder people who have not tasted the joys of marriage. One is reminded, in this context, that there are a million and a half unmarried women in Saudi Arabia alone.[3]
Islamic lawyers add that this type of marriage fits the needs of a conservative society which punishes “zina” (fornication) and other sexual relationships which are established outside a marriage contract. Thus, some Muslim foreigners working in the Gulf countries prefer to engage in the misyar marriage rather than live alone for years. Many of them are actually already married with wives and children in their home country, but they cannot bring them to the region.
They have these marriages in Egypt and they are called, i believe "Orfi" marriages, which are legally possible but of course looked down on. I think 'orfi' means hidden, but I may be wrong.
It's an inventive way of getting round the rules about 'no sex before marriage' - you can't argue with that!
This took me a long time to understand and i still think its bull but Marriage of Convenience known in arabic as Zawaj il Mut3a is followed by the Shi'a and not the Sunnis so it does not apply to all islam. but also not just anyone can get into a marriage of convenience easily. They esplain it by saying that this was done for the benefit of widowed women who have known the pleasures of S. Intercourse and since their husband is diseased they need to find a "pressure release" (whatever!! I'm still not convineced! ) LOL.. so in order not to encourage the woman to sin the Religion offers her a relief thru the Marriage of convenience. and you do not marry for one night and divorce the second.. you are not allowed to divorce until after there is significant proof that this 'ONE NIGHT' did nor render the woman pregnant..
Nikāḥu’l-Mut‘ah,(Arabic: نكاح المتعة, also Nikah Mut‘ah literally, marriage[1] for pleasure[2]), or sigheh, is a time-delimited marriage contract according to the Usuli Shia schools of Shari‘a (Islamic law). The duration of this type of marriage is fixed at its inception and is then automatically dissolved upon completion of its term.
There is plenty more if you follow the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_Mut%27ah
Last I checked, only strict Catholics follow the "Death do us part bit". All other faiths allow divorce.
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marriage for convenience. A union which only seeks personal favor either the fastest way to be legalized in one country or avoiding prosecution due to illegal live-in status like in predominantly Islamic country.
BTW, Alexa, I don't know what's your problem with the word "CHURCH" that you define it that way. Maybe the church you belong to have it that way. Maybe you are one of the hookers (you are giving insinuation). It's your definition not ours.
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
Temporary Marriage is not Marriage. It's like Cheating God (astaghfer allah) you want to get with someone without being fully commited. then what are the difference between that and buying someone a drink!!! what r u goin to say to the girl's family? I'll use ur daughter for 2 days and i'll give 500 reyal as mahar!! Is that any better than picking someone from a disco like ur saying??
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I am better off here with my wife and all the friends and girlfriends with or without the temporary marriage.
Qatar is a free country and we enjoy the freedom so lets enjoy than be a bitter old cynical person. Money is good and everything is so secure, just need a temporary marriage to tide over things a bit.
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Either CB and Irrrsya are living on the moon or they are bitten by the yellow fever bug. Come to cube and you can get the nationality of boys and girls come to Merweb it is the same. It is worst in Dubai and even worst in saudi for that matter.
and go to UK it is on the streets, most of the westerners flock to Phukhet, Pattaya, and these small cosy gardens. Take the compounds of westerneers here in qatar you will not need any proof of what we are talking. Thursdays are the busiest. is there any two thoughts about the morals and long love life till we die??? ha ha cb may be we have to look at the other side, everything is not as per barbara cartland.
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Exactly my point for sex!!!!! Please don't even take the word moral in your mouth.
It is not abusive it is a point of view, no matter the laws it is a matter of common decency and by the way I grade it the same as living together, you can't change my mind on this no matter how you twist and turn it.
What upsets me even more is that you bring a comparison with the picking up in the disco - so you seem to think it is easy to pick up in the disco - I can assure you many women would heartily disagree with you. You are the person degrading the female.
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That may be and we know it exists - but here and now there is no war - to take a woman and use her for pleasure is against any form of reasoning.
When he is finshed with here she gets the boot and has nothing.
Why it was originally done is not important, it is how they are used now. "Temporary marriages" ARE used as a cover for prostitution. See the example of Qom, in article below:
http://www.slate.com/id/2189816/
It would seem that the rules vary depending on which strain if Islam one has chosen to follow and that they are widely tolerated.
Why u make the female sex a victim, temporary marriage is with consent and nupital agreements are made. What is living in it is the same boot and shoot from one bed to another. it is just how you put it.
it all depends from individual where he is living, and the laws of that country.
As usual when you have no argument you use abusive language, the concept of temporary marriage is never understood, of course it is for sex not for love. donot mix with love which I am trying to tell you.
I am taling about the legality of temporary marriage not about your western morals.
Westerners don't call it temporary marriage and it is leagalised in many countries it is called 'living together' so no need for the piece of paper, so either party can leave each other without divorce proceedings.
Many just don't get married because they don't want the hassle of divorce, at least they are honest about it.
Temporary Marriage what does this mean for the woman - it means when you have finished using her she will get the boot and then you will move on to another temporary marriage - means nothing more than a new bed companion. Any woman letting herself in for this con needs to see a shrink.
Makes me sick the way it is presented as if it something special - will she get all the trimmings of a proper marriage and all the Gold etc. no of course not.
You live in a dream world and are not connected to the actual reasons men and women marry. It has very much to do with sex especially for reasons of reproducing the Human Race.
Don't talk about the Western Morals regarding sex and don't talk about our divorce rates when alone in Doha divorce rates are high. Anyone thinking he can get out of a marriage easily without collateral damage would most likely go for it.
Ther are a lot of facts leading to divorce every where in the world but here in the East/Asia/Asia Minor, it may not happen based on financial reasons, as many married women don't work and are financially dependant on their husbands, also families are more prone to disown females if they want divorce.
Why would you want a temporary marriag if it was not for sex - I mean do you think we don't know what is going on.
irrsya says about morals,some say about sacred binding, some sy haram some say halal, but love is everlasting, donot mix it with sex, sex has nothing to do with love, love has nothing to do with marriage. You can love some one deeply but still you can avoid sex. Marriage can be sex with no love, or just living together as khaddama and driver with each other.
WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, THE ECONOMIST, LATE MR. GAJJAR RIGHTLY SAID, ""MARRIAGE IS LEGALIZED PROSTITUTION""
You get a piece of paper to have sex. In west, from poland to paraguay, 7 out of 10 marriages lasts from 1 to 5 years. Thus the laws in the west says if you donot get along go to the court and make the man or woman suffer and the lawyer you can make the money. Lets not be hypocritical and face the facts of life and reality then talk about morals and morality. We do what is legal. in the country we live in. sorry for beigng so crude but I have lived a life time here in the middle east to understand the the Basics of all the laws and Shariat and the tenents of religion. No need for western morals regarding sex.
as far as i know "marriage is sacred"its binding 2 people whos inlove to each other and promise to be together thru thick and thin....for better or for worse... tell death do us part......
may be now a days seldom believe it anymore......
i think its same as they make also contract marriage
CB, im not really updated in this international law. but what i meant is marrying somebody so they may get a resident permit to stay and be able to perfom some activities but not necessarily changing their passport. of course its not applicable here in Doha but its possible in other countries. for example a foreign man marries a local woman so that he can set up his business.
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You live on the edge of the world - you can marry whoever you want and you will still not get the passport - think again. The new regulations all over the world protect their men and women from marrying male an female (who........res) for the passport.
Check this link for ur kind information and see the deference between the 2 kinds of marriages
what he is talking about here I think it's the pleasure marriage in which he pays some cash for a women to marry him for a certain time ... which is Totally Haram "forbidden"
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Alright, jokes apart...yes temp marraiges are naaa...dont think it is worth even discussing as a topic...so yea my two cents would have to wait for a better topic...
indeed that is wat we would hope for and wish if it happens the way we want it then its Alhamdullillah but then if it does not then that is life i guess like you said abt the 50% of ppl then dont forget there are the balance of the other 50% not everyone is the same in mind and thinking.......life is abt choices , you make yr bed you lay in it........>just my 2 cents worth
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
qatarisun, in my mind marriage is not a "DEAL"...it is a celebration of two people who love, trust and believe in each other. Who want to have a family and grow old together...
If you're looking for a problem, you're probably gonna find one.
I think you are a male whore, you think it is ok for one or two nights, or even as long as you are away from home , you are dead wrong - marriage is normally for a lifetime. Rather than pick up fron dicos think about icking up AIDS, or HIP C or th man's plague.
in his country... that's why he is looking for the temporary marriage...
well.. to be honest, everything can be purchazed and can be sold in this world.. even if you look at the "real" marriage.. it’s also kind of agreement/ deal between woman and man where he/she has to contribute/to pay/to do something in order to get paid in return…well...the currency is not always the MONEY.. but still marriage is a DEAL, nothing else...
doesnt the word MARRIAGE mean anything at all??and i thought i heard something like "till death do us part" so dont make a mockery out of something so special and sacred.......also dont make a mockery of this short time we have on living............
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
hmm well this is what i think...it can be temporary marriage when someone, an expatriate would like to be a resident and the only way can it can be done quickly is marrying a citizen of a particular country. no feelings involved...and after some time they can split up
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Alright, I knew there was something that couldnt stop without being thrown out in the open...lol...
And ofcourse, whilst the topic is interesting, but ladies, havent you realized, thats a cheezy pick up line...lol...temporary marraige...
But i have to tell you ma friend, temporary is scary, and on top of that, there is another scary word you have used, "Marraige", now thats being real scary and quite set to drive away the ladies of QL from here, man this already is a desert (QAtar), dont make QL a desert as well...lol...then me and smokey would be left thirsty for some water...lol
naaa, i'm cool. don't know what ppl r thinking sometimes.
but just fyi, there ain't no hoes in this forum for this marriage mockery.
and desaim: if u want to have a "legal se*life"... get married for real instead of looking for some way to justify ur actions, make urself feel better and morally correct in front of others!
If you're looking for a problem, you're probably gonna find one.
...she got married for 5 years.. but it's not legally acceptable in Qatar.. it's for Allah sake ...
yeah.. and they signed the contract, he gave her money (how do they call it?) before the marriage, and then there is some sum, that he has to pay to her after "divorce"..
Sheeeeesh, I came into this thread thinking Irry is at her usual rampage, but only to find that you guys have cooled her...come on Irry, hit it out, come out with it, say it...you can do it...
Mmmm, have heard of this temporary/pleasure marriages. Don't see any substantial difference between them and a fling, except that the temporary marriages make a mockery of the whole idea of marriage. At least one night stands don't sully and cheapen the instituion of marriage.
it is widely practiced (not in the west) so it is not asking for trouble. but the other practice at disco is illegal and keeping them in their house over the weekend as many do so in the compunds is illegal.
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maryfaith ==== i conceded to you. There is no such thing as temporary marriage.
They are just trying to connotes this as lesser evil once a one night stand or living together or a relationship outside marriage (adultery) will be categories as TEMPORARY Marriage..sounds like having a trial and error exercise huh?? or the "famous return or exchange within +__ days"
there is no such as temporary marriage..one-night stand or live-in maybe..you are weird!
keep on coming..you will end up as a stand up comedian i supposed...diversion of talent ...huh??
no??
mmyke ==== are you trying to crack some jokes..i think you could be an effective one
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and then have a temporary marriage for a month or 2??
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Muttah is temporary or fixed term marriage and is performed just as a nikah is performed but the only difference is that the term is fixed. A mahr is fixed for this also as in nikah. Moreover the lady with whom mutah is performed should either be a divorcee or a widow. To perform muttah with a virgin is makrooh. Moreover in muttah the consent of the parents or the guardian of the lady is essential. If during the course of the muttah the lady gets pregnant then the offspring will get the name of the father and also his expenditure for his upbringing will be borne by him.
This kind of marriage was practised in the times of our beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w.).
(Allah Knows Better)
haha u old man at this age u will do temporary marriage shame on u man SHAME
I have some friends, a couple (they are not married) who will come to Qatar to visit me for a week. I would like to take them for a drive thru KSA to UAE while they are here. In Qatar I don't suppose it will be a problem for them not to be married as they are tourists, but in KSA they are probably more strict. That is why I serched under temporary marriage, as I know that it exists in Iran. Because I thought of it as a solution to this problem. So could somebody answer me this, does temporary marriage exist in Qatar?
I have scrolled passed the moral debate - everyone must decide what's right for him/herself.
you must be kidding!!!! TEMPORARY MARRIAGE in a muslim country?
You know what, first I thought I will put my comments here, but then when I started to think about this topic and after doing some research I found this is not just a simple topic where one could just talk what ever comes to his/her mind.
As far as the concept of "Temporary Marriage" is concerned with todays point of view I strongly oppose it, as it does not have sence in todays world and in the countries I have been living in. I can't comment on those countries that I haven't visited or where I am not aware of the living condition and culture.
But at same time I would recommend for those who are intersted in this topic to do some research on this topic and to understand what it would have ment when it was originally published as part of the religion.
And finally to answer desaim20 question, its not allowed in most of the countires who follow Sunni Law and as I understand its currently active in Iran.
Everywhere woman gets exploited and spoiled if a woman laughs with colleague she will be named ?????? and starts gossipping by men. If the women pleases them and talk them they are so good. If the woman is wise and keep these type of people at arms length then she is oversmart.
For temporary marriage he just trying to see pleasure that is all.
a true person who believe in God will not do like this. If in his family his sister or mother or his wife do this how he will feel. Is he agreeable then it comes honourable.
y is this associated with muslims???
HOw did i miss this one out.... Well temporary marriages do exist, atleast in my religion. For shias, the only difference is, these marriages are not done for having sex. Alot of people take it in a wrong way or for pleasing, these marriages were done since the times of Prophet Muhammad (saws), the reason was, when the men went on war and died, their wives needed money to support the family and they found asking for money quite embressing and they couldn't get married since marrying only 4 wives were allowed in islam, so they used to do temporary marriages so they can give the money at the time of divorce... it had nothing to do with sex.
By the way, it is not easy to have a temporary marriage, u need 2 suspects, 1 sheikh representing the guy and one sheikh representing the girl and 2 people from each of ur families. Even then, the whole pleasure thing is up to the girl, if she write's in the contract that she wants to have sexual relation, then only u can do anything to her... or her to u. That's temporaray marriage in islam.
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F EVERYONE WAS TO TAKE AN EYE FOR AN EYE, THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD'VE BEEN BLIND TODAY - MAHATMA GHANDI
one of my friends did it with a Qatari guy, she married him in his hotel room with 2 indian guys as witnesses, she told me they just recited some words and then they got down to business, she got 40,000 QR for it and a Chopard Diamond set worth 26,000 QR, they stayed married for i think about 1 month, then she left him... I was so angry its sounds like prostitution to me.. but she seemed happy :(:(
read my reply on the previous page. Zawaj l mut3a has nothiing to do with sex and by the way sex is not allowed in this kind of marriage according to most of the Islamic leaders.
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Its simple as that about dozen of members posted on this Topic no one argued with her on that it just because you have problems with her and you dont like her thats why you come up calling her name.
She also said whorse houses mosque i could have argued with her but na i know its real and had happened so FOR CHURCH YEA THE PRIEST ARE GAY AND THERE ARE WHORES TOO.,
NOW WHAT DO YOU CALL ME A MALE HOOKER YOU POSER.
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If you'd actually read what she said dmighty you'd see she said that people HERE call brothels churches, not that she herself was calling a church a brothel. Geez.
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the issue raised in Filexpat was different in the forum that was discussed. As I've said, all my reaction to Gypsy's argument are cultural in nature and in the specific topic discussed, my fellow countrymen agree with me. You can find it out, you have a lot of Filipino friend who can interpret that forum. It is precisely I was raising in that forum, if it happens in our country, that is the natural reaction, in the same way as Gypsy is reacting by her culture, so the heated argument.
If you don't agree with our culture, then give us also the respect to disagree with other culture.
You hate me for saying a bad word to a friend (I even put a maybe) and yet all your post to me right now are also full of hate. Where's the reason Da? I am not making excuses, as I've said, mine is reaction only but if you define it differently, what can I do?
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
Stop with the excuses man i sure can bring up the other topic where you were crying to all the pinoy groups that no one agrees to your f**kin idiotic comments and you were even kicked in your balls there on that same topic.
IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN SIMPLY IGNORE IT YOU DONT GO AROUND INSULTING.
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and tell me where the word "local" is. Church is synonymous with God. Church is an organization for God so if you disrespect church, you disrespect God.
Who defines CHURCH as weekend keeper of hookers?
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
Publically calling a lady a hooker on a public forum, that can be seen around the world.
I must admit thats brave....
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dont change your statement she said Church not God. Ppl even hide weapons in Church and Mosque Grow up man get out see the world NOT EVERY PLACE IS PHILIPPINE.
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define it keeper of Hookers. And if that's fine with you, I don't know what kind of people are you that you can blatantly disrespect God.
I am not cursing them, they start it and it's just instinct to defend oneself
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
do you have to say anything now.
it looks like now if no one agrees with you you just go start cursing them like Rumple. first you go to Pinoy Group and post about Gypsy there and now you are calling Alexa WHHHHHHAT THE OR WHO THE HELL ARE YOU MAN.
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Great. Just great.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
The Arabic/Sunni version:
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Nikah Misyar or "travellers' marriage" (Arabic: نكاح المسيار) is the Sunni Muslim Nikah (marriage) contract carried out via the normal contractual procedure, with the specificity that the wife gives up several of her rights by her own free will, such as living with the husband, equal division of nights between wives in cases of polygamy, rights to housing, and maintenance money ("nafaqa").[1]
The couple continue to live separately from each other, as before their contract, and see each other to fulfil their needs in a halaal manner when they please.
Background and causes
Some people consider that the misyar marriage represents an adaptation of marriage to the needs of people who are not able to marry in the traditional way. In countries such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or the United Arab Emirates, this is usually due to the cost of rents; the high cost of living in general; the high amounts of dowry required; and other similar economic and financial concerns. [2]
This type of marriage could also meet the needs of young people whose resources are too limited to settle down in a separate home; of divorcees, widows or widowers, who have their own residence and their own financial resources but cannot, or do not want to marry again according to the usual formula; and of slightly elder people who have not tasted the joys of marriage. One is reminded, in this context, that there are a million and a half unmarried women in Saudi Arabia alone.[3]
Islamic lawyers add that this type of marriage fits the needs of a conservative society which punishes “zina” (fornication) and other sexual relationships which are established outside a marriage contract. Thus, some Muslim foreigners working in the Gulf countries prefer to engage in the misyar marriage rather than live alone for years. Many of them are actually already married with wives and children in their home country, but they cannot bring them to the region.
More on topic:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misyar_marriage
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They have these marriages in Egypt and they are called, i believe "Orfi" marriages, which are legally possible but of course looked down on. I think 'orfi' means hidden, but I may be wrong.
It's an inventive way of getting round the rules about 'no sex before marriage' - you can't argue with that!
If they are not allowed here, then good.
this is what was explained to me by a Shi'a back home.. kinda didnt understand and still dont.. i dont think its right now matter how they explain it
WYSIWYG
This took me a long time to understand and i still think its bull but Marriage of Convenience known in arabic as Zawaj il Mut3a is followed by the Shi'a and not the Sunnis so it does not apply to all islam. but also not just anyone can get into a marriage of convenience easily. They esplain it by saying that this was done for the benefit of widowed women who have known the pleasures of S. Intercourse and since their husband is diseased they need to find a "pressure release" (whatever!! I'm still not convineced! ) LOL.. so in order not to encourage the woman to sin the Religion offers her a relief thru the Marriage of convenience. and you do not marry for one night and divorce the second.. you are not allowed to divorce until after there is significant proof that this 'ONE NIGHT' did nor render the woman pregnant..
WYSIWYG
i dint know about this term earlier... lol..
Why buy a book when u can lend from a library! Hic!
does exist in Islam and it is not acceptable ...
Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. (Gautama Buddha)
Nikāḥu’l-Mut‘ah,(Arabic: نكاح المتعة, also Nikah Mut‘ah literally, marriage[1] for pleasure[2]), or sigheh, is a time-delimited marriage contract according to the Usuli Shia schools of Shari‘a (Islamic law). The duration of this type of marriage is fixed at its inception and is then automatically dissolved upon completion of its term.
There is plenty more if you follow the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_Mut%27ah
Last I checked, only strict Catholics follow the "Death do us part bit". All other faiths allow divorce.
Is this like the car key game?? :P
that means its temporary ... lol
if i cant die?
(exception: wooden spears and silver bullets)
permanent means.. till u die
aren't all marriages temporary ?
lol, Mar
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why dont you marry permanently..?
from 1 hour to 100yrs
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Cool Idea.. Can I get your contact number back home??..
How may kids you have there???
Temporary marriage....ROFL...hahahahaha....
"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek." Barack Obama
marriage for convenience. A union which only seeks personal favor either the fastest way to be legalized in one country or avoiding prosecution due to illegal live-in status like in predominantly Islamic country.
BTW, Alexa, I don't know what's your problem with the word "CHURCH" that you define it that way. Maybe the church you belong to have it that way. Maybe you are one of the hookers (you are giving insinuation). It's your definition not ours.
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
I am temporarily married. When I'll die it's done.
Temporary Marriage is not Marriage. It's like Cheating God (astaghfer allah) you want to get with someone without being fully commited. then what are the difference between that and buying someone a drink!!! what r u goin to say to the girl's family? I'll use ur daughter for 2 days and i'll give 500 reyal as mahar!! Is that any better than picking someone from a disco like ur saying??
(((God has created the man kind Free, why do we Enslave ourselves?)))---(((Only God can Judge me)))---(((Don't mess with me unless you'r Ready to Bleed)))
Let all the so called pseudo moralist of the west rest in Austira like the old man told his daughter "till death do us apart"
I am better off here with my wife and all the friends and girlfriends with or without the temporary marriage.
Qatar is a free country and we enjoy the freedom so lets enjoy than be a bitter old cynical person. Money is good and everything is so secure, just need a temporary marriage to tide over things a bit.
Love to all QL guys and girls
In Fillipino language we are known as DOM (Dirty Old man)
bye
"...u need 2 victims, 1 sheikh, both ur and 2 people from each of ur families .."???
well. at least 1 victim you have for sure...lemme see where I can get another one...LOL...
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Either CB and Irrrsya are living on the moon or they are bitten by the yellow fever bug. Come to cube and you can get the nationality of boys and girls come to Merweb it is the same. It is worst in Dubai and even worst in saudi for that matter.
and go to UK it is on the streets, most of the westerners flock to Phukhet, Pattaya, and these small cosy gardens. Take the compounds of westerneers here in qatar you will not need any proof of what we are talking. Thursdays are the busiest. is there any two thoughts about the morals and long love life till we die??? ha ha cb may be we have to look at the other side, everything is not as per barbara cartland.
I have asked a pertinent question and the answer has been given by Thexonix. Thanks
Exactly my point for sex!!!!! Please don't even take the word moral in your mouth.
It is not abusive it is a point of view, no matter the laws it is a matter of common decency and by the way I grade it the same as living together, you can't change my mind on this no matter how you twist and turn it.
What upsets me even more is that you bring a comparison with the picking up in the disco - so you seem to think it is easy to pick up in the disco - I can assure you many women would heartily disagree with you. You are the person degrading the female.
thexonic
That may be and we know it exists - but here and now there is no war - to take a woman and use her for pleasure is against any form of reasoning.
When he is finshed with here she gets the boot and has nothing.
Where are morals here.
Why it was originally done is not important, it is how they are used now. "Temporary marriages" ARE used as a cover for prostitution. See the example of Qom, in article below:
http://www.slate.com/id/2189816/
It would seem that the rules vary depending on which strain if Islam one has chosen to follow and that they are widely tolerated.
Why u make the female sex a victim, temporary marriage is with consent and nupital agreements are made. What is living in it is the same boot and shoot from one bed to another. it is just how you put it.
it all depends from individual where he is living, and the laws of that country.
As usual when you have no argument you use abusive language, the concept of temporary marriage is never understood, of course it is for sex not for love. donot mix with love which I am trying to tell you.
I am taling about the legality of temporary marriage not about your western morals.
Westerners don't call it temporary marriage and it is leagalised in many countries it is called 'living together' so no need for the piece of paper, so either party can leave each other without divorce proceedings.
Many just don't get married because they don't want the hassle of divorce, at least they are honest about it.
Temporary Marriage what does this mean for the woman - it means when you have finished using her she will get the boot and then you will move on to another temporary marriage - means nothing more than a new bed companion. Any woman letting herself in for this con needs to see a shrink.
Makes me sick the way it is presented as if it something special - will she get all the trimmings of a proper marriage and all the Gold etc. no of course not.
desaim20- my opinion: U'RE SO FULL OF SH**!!
If you're looking for a problem, you're probably gonna find one.
hi dear, let me know do you have temperory marriage in your country?!
You live in a dream world and are not connected to the actual reasons men and women marry. It has very much to do with sex especially for reasons of reproducing the Human Race.
Don't talk about the Western Morals regarding sex and don't talk about our divorce rates when alone in Doha divorce rates are high. Anyone thinking he can get out of a marriage easily without collateral damage would most likely go for it.
Ther are a lot of facts leading to divorce every where in the world but here in the East/Asia/Asia Minor, it may not happen based on financial reasons, as many married women don't work and are financially dependant on their husbands, also families are more prone to disown females if they want divorce.
Why would you want a temporary marriag if it was not for sex - I mean do you think we don't know what is going on.
Temporary marriage indeed!!!!!
friends,
irrsya says about morals,some say about sacred binding, some sy haram some say halal, but love is everlasting, donot mix it with sex, sex has nothing to do with love, love has nothing to do with marriage. You can love some one deeply but still you can avoid sex. Marriage can be sex with no love, or just living together as khaddama and driver with each other.
WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, THE ECONOMIST, LATE MR. GAJJAR RIGHTLY SAID, ""MARRIAGE IS LEGALIZED PROSTITUTION""
You get a piece of paper to have sex. In west, from poland to paraguay, 7 out of 10 marriages lasts from 1 to 5 years. Thus the laws in the west says if you donot get along go to the court and make the man or woman suffer and the lawyer you can make the money. Lets not be hypocritical and face the facts of life and reality then talk about morals and morality. We do what is legal. in the country we live in. sorry for beigng so crude but I have lived a life time here in the middle east to understand the the Basics of all the laws and Shariat and the tenents of religion. No need for western morals regarding sex.
im not know what ur thing man....
as far as i know "marriage is sacred"its binding 2 people whos inlove to each other and promise to be together thru thick and thin....for better or for worse... tell death do us part......
may be now a days seldom believe it anymore......
i think its same as they make also contract marriage
try and try until you succeed
CB, im not really updated in this international law. but what i meant is marrying somebody so they may get a resident permit to stay and be able to perfom some activities but not necessarily changing their passport. of course its not applicable here in Doha but its possible in other countries. for example a foreign man marries a local woman so that he can set up his business.
I think I've discovered the secret of life - you just hang around until you get used to it. ~Charles Schulz
To be polite to you and all others of your kind - if you want a b.......ll massage call me and you will never ask again, I will complete you like you have never in your life before. You are a sub-continant (Bi......tch) so go back home and crawl back into that hole you came from.
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You live on the edge of the world - you can marry whoever you want and you will still not get the passport - think again. The new regulations all over the world protect their men and women from marrying male an female (who........res) for the passport.
If you're looking for a problem, you're probably gonna find one.
I broke the guidlines I said whor without the e!!! lol
You are talking about the Mesyar Marriage not Motaa Marriage
The mesyar marriage is totally different than the Motaa "Pleasure marriage"
Mesyar is Halal "Accepted"
Motaa "Pleasure" is Haram
Make your researches again and make sure of ur point
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Check this link for ur kind information and see the deference between the 2 kinds of marriages
what he is talking about here I think it's the pleasure marriage in which he pays some cash for a women to marry him for a certain time ... which is Totally Haram "forbidden"
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"in Islam it's Haram "forbidden" and not acceptable ..."
On April 12, 2006 the Islamic Jurisprudence Assembly in Mecca gave its approval !!
So whose fatwa is valid yours or Islamic Jurispurdence ?
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When it said temporary, means no marriage, that fits as the definition of Gf/Bf only.
"There's nothing we can do to change the past, if it teaches you a lesson profit from it then, forget it."
how romantic!!
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marriage is a lifetime commitment...its not trial and error therefore temporary is out of its definition
I think I've discovered the secret of life - you just hang around until you get used to it. ~Charles Schulz
If no money then they are a sweet couple in love .. or having friends having some fun ... in this case i wouldn't call her a slut ..
as i told u the definition of sllut (At least to me) is as i mentioned b4 ..
a women sell her body, dignity and social respect JUST for some cash ..
Do u have another definition .. plz lemme know it ;)
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I knew we had that same interest love at first sight...lol...and dont check behind your wings, i have got them covered...lol...
Alright, jokes apart...yes temp marraiges are naaa...dont think it is worth even discussing as a topic...so yea my two cents would have to wait for a better topic...
QS yeah go check yr wings coz my halo is still above my head........>winks
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
'temporary marriage' - oxymoron....
call a spade a spade and don't dress it up in euphamistic semantics to make it socially acceptable.
is there such a thing as TEMPORARY MESSAGE? got to read up again..
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it's just one of the points of view..
It’s not necessary I personally do believe in it…
I still believe in the love from the first sight and in love to the rest of our lives…
Angel….*checking her wings behind the shoulders**
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Sorry double standards
Is it morally acceptable for a man to partake in a transaction that involves his body - dignity and social respect?
Why does it have such implications for the woman and not the man?
What if there is no money involved?
What is the appropreciate word for a man who has sex ???
For me the man is paying some cash for something he needs
the woman is selling her body, dignity and social respect for some cash ..
u still want me to watch my language ??
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indeed that is wat we would hope for and wish if it happens the way we want it then its Alhamdullillah but then if it does not then that is life i guess like you said abt the 50% of ppl then dont forget there are the balance of the other 50% not everyone is the same in mind and thinking.......life is abt choices , you make yr bed you lay in it........>just my 2 cents worth
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
Please watch your language:
'A horny guy pay some cash for a slut to sleep'
A man who has sex is a 'guy'
A woman who has sex is a 'slut'
Please that is not acceptable.
qatarisun, in my mind marriage is not a "DEAL"...it is a celebration of two people who love, trust and believe in each other. Who want to have a family and grow old together...
If you're looking for a problem, you're probably gonna find one.
yeah.. it used to be "till death do us apart".. and it still come across these days.. some are lucky to be there...
but for 50% of people it's more like "till some affair does us apart"...lol...
or "till somebody richer/sexier/younger/more beneficial/etc do us apart"...lol...
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I think you are a male whore, you think it is ok for one or two nights, or even as long as you are away from home , you are dead wrong - marriage is normally for a lifetime. Rather than pick up fron dicos think about icking up AIDS, or HIP C or th man's plague.
I curse you to death you m...... f.......
in his country... that's why he is looking for the temporary marriage...
well.. to be honest, everything can be purchazed and can be sold in this world.. even if you look at the "real" marriage.. it’s also kind of agreement/ deal between woman and man where he/she has to contribute/to pay/to do something in order to get paid in return…well...the currency is not always the MONEY.. but still marriage is a DEAL, nothing else...
so....
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doesnt the word MARRIAGE mean anything at all??and i thought i heard something like "till death do us part" so dont make a mockery out of something so special and sacred.......also dont make a mockery of this short time we have on living............
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
you broke my heart you meanie
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sheeeeeesh, look at all of you...some good quotations indeed are going into the book of temporary marraiges...lol...
Temporary Marriage is more like a WAM BAM THANK U MA'aM !!!!
yup, just like i said hoe with a reciept.
If you're looking for a problem, you're probably gonna find one.
hmmm sounds like when the so called 'marriage ' is done with then its >bye bye thank you maam , nice doing business with ya..........
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
no it's not better than picking a girl from a disco ..
in Islam it's Haram "forbidden" and not acceptable ...
let's compare between them:
A girl from a disco: Some cash for some sex one night
this kind of marriage: Some more cash for more sex for extra nights ..
Can u show me where is the difference ???
conclousion: A horny guy pay some cash for a slut to sleep with ..
then go for the Disco girl .. at least u can change the girls every night .. and u pay only for the night ..
but for a wife: u will pay for living expenses, food, clothes, some gifts and extra Bullshirt ;) and u have to pay after the divorce too ...
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U go girl :P
Darude stop trying ur luck man..
hmm well this is what i think...it can be temporary marriage when someone, an expatriate would like to be a resident and the only way can it can be done quickly is marrying a citizen of a particular country. no feelings involved...and after some time they can split up
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Alright, I knew there was something that couldnt stop without being thrown out in the open...lol...
And ofcourse, whilst the topic is interesting, but ladies, havent you realized, thats a cheezy pick up line...lol...temporary marraige...
But i have to tell you ma friend, temporary is scary, and on top of that, there is another scary word you have used, "Marraige", now thats being real scary and quite set to drive away the ladies of QL from here, man this already is a desert (QAtar), dont make QL a desert as well...lol...then me and smokey would be left thirsty for some water...lol
DaruDe, declaration is: u r already married
If you're looking for a problem, you're probably gonna find one.
thought you were going to declare something repling to my post "?
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yeah qatarisun, if u ask a prostitute for a reciept, it would be the same.
If you're looking for a problem, you're probably gonna find one.
Morning KSA.
naaa, i'm cool. don't know what ppl r thinking sometimes.
but just fyi, there ain't no hoes in this forum for this marriage mockery.
and desaim: if u want to have a "legal se*life"... get married for real instead of looking for some way to justify ur actions, make urself feel better and morally correct in front of others!
If you're looking for a problem, you're probably gonna find one.
Everone is looking for a problem, they probably don't find one.
Can you help
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...she got married for 5 years.. but it's not legally acceptable in Qatar.. it's for Allah sake ...
yeah.. and they signed the contract, he gave her money (how do they call it?) before the marriage, and then there is some sum, that he has to pay to her after "divorce"..
go ahead.. do it... you guys like to play...
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cmon irrysa share whats on your mind...
I think I've discovered the secret of life - you just hang around until you get used to it. ~Charles Schulz
U sound like a Cheerleader Dude
Sheeeeesh, I came into this thread thinking Irry is at her usual rampage, but only to find that you guys have cooled her...come on Irry, hit it out, come out with it, say it...you can do it...
And ofcourse, morning all you people out here..
i'm cool.
If you're looking for a problem, you're probably gonna find one.
plz plz i am with you
spit it out b4 i kick you out
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Uh oh some 1 needs to hold uback i can only imagine wht u want to say !! :P
u know my fingers are eager to write what i'm thinking about this whole thread right now, but it's just not worth it...
If you're looking for a problem, you're probably gonna find one.
if marriage can be done temporarily, we are losing its value...
I think I've discovered the secret of life - you just hang around until you get used to it. ~Charles Schulz
Mmmm, have heard of this temporary/pleasure marriages. Don't see any substantial difference between them and a fling, except that the temporary marriages make a mockery of the whole idea of marriage. At least one night stands don't sully and cheapen the instituion of marriage.
its called MITTHA'A Marriages.............
will not comment further....
I want to go for a Contract Marriage:)
what are u talking about Darudeasaurus? what is ur Dil mangoing for early in the morning hmmm?
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This is just Lame !!!
Not allowed in Qatar and no legislation with regard to that...
though i heard that some ppl (who believe in this kinda marraige) are practising in here and they dun publicize it.....
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it is widely practiced (not in the west) so it is not asking for trouble. but the other practice at disco is illegal and keeping them in their house over the weekend as many do so in the compunds is illegal.
have you heard that song
Ye Dil Mangay More
well its so true for me :D
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http://www.qatarliving.com/node/75868
been discussed many times...
GRRRRRRRR enough said.
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to tell me the best time to propose then
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thats new to me...temporary marriage? is this a game?
I think I've discovered the secret of life - you just hang around until you get used to it. ~Charles Schulz
he means the pleasure marriage...u get married, even for one night, and then u get divorced.
with all reaspect to Muslims:
it's like a legalized one night stand.
If you're looking for a problem, you're probably gonna find one.
Can you please define Temporary marriage????