PrincessSarah... let me first clear your illusion or manifestation of thought (in context) that I havent read any of those that you mentioned and am ignorant of what I am discussing or attempting to...how do you know what I have read, for how long I have read and at what stage of reading and understanding I am at present. So if we are clear on it, your "Ï know it all" attitude is rather immature...so let us not get into that. What I believe or not believe is also not in contention, as so far I think I have not brought that in.
Now back to your first sentence...why I am certain that the thought came just once...here is the full story..the mother with the kid was standing outside the house alongwith this friend (who comes back after a long gap) talking to her as a person passed by (we call them baba in India, these are the people who claim to have renounced the world and its materialistic attractions and who claim to have foresight to see the future)...he looked at the child and said that he would like to look at is hand and after a while said what will happen to him when he would be 20 years of age...it was so unbelievable that the two laughed at it because such incidents are quite common in small towns and people feel that by saying so these baba's actually try to get some money for performing certain activities to avoid such incidences in future for the well being of the supposedly affected person. So as any other such utterances by such people who claim to tell you about your future it was also rubbished... in the context it was not given cognizance of and hence didnt register or did not manifest itself.
You also said "Thoughts even not from the person involved can influence events"....take the case of a kid doing great when he is young and not only the parents but people around are also convinced that he would excel in studies and would be a very successful person in life and wish that he be so....rather a case of deeper manifestation of positive thoughts even if not of the kid himself...as he grows nothing as regards the immediate environment changed, the parents and people around continued to believe what they thought of him as a kid...but as he grew, fell into wrong company and grew into a completely failed person which no one could believe. What went wrong here. And btw there were no external thoughts ever (atleast not known) that this kid can ever grow into a failed person.
And I would not comment on "You may wonder why someone's thoughts can affect others, it's all about being on the same frequency. You can never affect or influence someone unless he/she is in the same state of thinking". I expect you to see the contradiction yourself in what you have said prior to this statement and this statement which though is suggestive of what I have intended to state here.
PrincessSarah... let me first clear your illusion or manifestation of thought (in context) that I havent read any of those that you mentioned and am ignorant of what I am discussing or attempting to...how do you know what I have read, for how long I have read and at what stage of reading and understanding I am at present. So if we are clear on it, your "Ï know it all" attitude is rather immature...so let us not get into that. What I believe or not believe is also not in contention, as so far I think I have not brought that in.
Now back to your first sentence...why I am certain that the thought came just once...here is the full story..the mother with the kid was standing outside the house alongwith this friend (who comes back after a long gap) talking to her as a person passed by (we call them baba in India, these are the people who claim to have renounced the world and its materialistic attractions and who claim to have foresight to see the future)...he looked at the child and said that he would like to look at is hand and after a while said what will happen to him when he would be 20 years of age...it was so unbelievable that the two laughed at it because such incidents are quite common in small towns and people feel that by saying so these baba's actually try to get some money for performing certain activities to avoid such incidences in future for the well being of the supposedly affected person. So as any other such utterances by such people who claim to tell you about your future it was also rubbished... in the context it was not given cognizance of and hence didnt register or did not manifest itself.
You also said "Thoughts even not from the person involved can influence events"....take the case of a kid doing great when he is young and not only the parents but people around are also convinced that he would excel in studies and would be a very successful person in life and wish that he be so....rather a case of deeper manifestation of positive thoughts even if not of the kid himself...as he grows nothing as regards the immediate environment changed, the parents and people around continued to believe what they thought of him as a kid...but as he grew, fell into wrong company and grew into a completely failed person which no one could believe. What went wrong here. And btw there were no external thoughts ever (atleast not known) that this kid can ever grow into a failed person.
And I would not comment on "You may wonder why someone's thoughts can affect others, it's all about being on the same frequency. You can never affect or influence someone unless he/she is in the same state of thinking". I expect you to see the contradiction yourself in what you have said prior to this statement and this statement which though is suggestive of what I have intended to state here.