But you seem totaly set in your way, so I doubt either of us will change the others mind.

First off I apologize that I don't have time to read EVERYTHING you link too...but I do browse it...its nothing new....it does not prove the existence of a creator....Polytheistic religions of the ancient worlds had holy books that meshed with what they believed to be scientific facts, and made up whatever was not known as filler. I'm sorry to burst your bubble when I say your holy book is no different.

To address your question about moraily: It is not religion which teaches good and bad....but man made laws....since almost all religion's morality stems from the ten commandements...which themselves are taken from Hamurabi's code (centuries BEFORE Judaism)! It was not god who said: "thou shalt not kill"....it was King Hamurabi....a man!!!

Matter of fact, its very disturbing if belief in fiery torment is the ONLY thing motivating you to do good! We have laws because humans are social creatures and to coexist in societies, we have to regulate our affairs....these concepts predate Religion (unless you believe the world started 2000 years or so ago)!

Religion is only ONE way to teach morality....and imho the WORST way to do it....I mean: scaring people into doing what's right? This is the divine creators plan? Sad.

Humans have been searching for piece of mind since they began to think....and have come up with numerous oracles, propehts, holy scriptures, religions etc... It is the height of arrogance to think that ones own religion is THE right one.

Maybe one day we will grow out of this infantile need to always know and always be certain...then again maybe we won't...it doesn't matter as long as you live and let live and leave a choice to others to believe in whatever works for them...unfortunately, history has shown us that religion is incapable of doing that....it divides instead of uniting...IF you must beleieve....at least let others choose what they want to believe in.

Stay safe Mofathi...and all.

Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?