What dose modern education produces? So very much confused students, and badly trained educators .the quality of education in the classroom has gone so low so much that student no longer have to conform to classroom general rules and standards. School going students now days can be asked very basic questions of their subjects and not be able to answer
@brit yes i read about that yesterday. didn't know it was allowed in US to 'paddle' the student if they do something wrong and they agreed to be paddled or whatever. i agree with the bit of 'smacking' tho but not to the extent that your kid will just remember that you smacked him/her and not the reason why you did it. :(
Agree with TDKR and Tinkerbell10..."Modern education spoils creativity??? I seem to be living in another world altogether!!!! or where did you hear that?". ...:)
As for smacking, I dont think either at school or at home it is required unless the parents give up on children for any reason. As I understood, as I grew, time & patience was the key with parents. And so never got smacked either at home or at school. There were tough sessions specially with parents but they were patient enough to tell me or my brother and sister their POV listening to our POV, without the mindset that they being eldest are only right and at times these sessions would run for days without any hostility or bad feeling.
It all depends on what is allowed and the age of the children. In my school, we used to get caned. i would not agree to that. However, the odd smack on the bum with a slipper will do.
For instance, there was a case in Texas a few days ago where a school gives students the choice of getting "paddled" or suspension. Rather than spend two days in in-school suspension for allegedly letting another student copy her classwork, one well-regarded student chose to get paddled.
Now her mother is up in arms because her bottom was bruised....
I think parents should smack their children whenever wherever, we're meant to be together.. Errrr... sorry lost the track
Jokes apart .. I don't see anything wrong with parents smacking their kids "occasionally" and when necessary.. but again do not punish your children in front of others because that would make them feel humiliated and ultimately go rebellious.I have seen many arab (parents) smacking their children in public like malls and parks etc. which in my opinion is TOTALLY wrong..
Otherwise, all is good.. i got punished a lot as a kid.. but look at me now.. All the girls love me .. i can still take some smacking from my father.. :P
Somehow the thought of hitting ,even lightly, another's child is just wrong. For teachers there are many better ways to discipline a child than resorting to the kinda corporal punishment our teachers used. Now that was quite brutal and far from bettering us it certainly encouraged naughty kids like I was to be more naughtier as a form of revenge and defiance.
I was talking about parents smacking their kids..teachers on the other hand are a big No No.
On that note..when i was smacked for something i did wrong i always found other creative ways to do more naughty things so that should answer your question. :P
And beating them black and blue, I do think a little smack or two is called for when all other attempts fail. But in all honesty, many times we grown ups tend to lose patience fast. Most kids are suckers for kind words and compliments, and often using these tactics are far more effectual than whacks. And the downside of even light beating is that it can send the message across to the kiddo that violence is a solution to getting your way. Then when they, in their immaturity, do this to say there classmates, it causes us to have to reprimand them again..a vicious cycle!
Coz i believe..."they" treat kids with rights just as any adult. The only rights the kids should have is to shut up and eat their veggies, do their home work and be in bed by 9:00pm :P
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What dose modern education produces? So very much confused students, and badly trained educators .the quality of education in the classroom has gone so low so much that student no longer have to conform to classroom general rules and standards. School going students now days can be asked very basic questions of their subjects and not be able to answer
@brit yes i read about that yesterday. didn't know it was allowed in US to 'paddle' the student if they do something wrong and they agreed to be paddled or whatever. i agree with the bit of 'smacking' tho but not to the extent that your kid will just remember that you smacked him/her and not the reason why you did it. :(
Smoke.. Sorry, I'm no mother, but people like to call me daddy ..and i'd love to kick your bum
Agree with TDKR and Tinkerbell10..."Modern education spoils creativity??? I seem to be living in another world altogether!!!! or where did you hear that?". ...:)
As for smacking, I dont think either at school or at home it is required unless the parents give up on children for any reason. As I understood, as I grew, time & patience was the key with parents. And so never got smacked either at home or at school. There were tough sessions specially with parents but they were patient enough to tell me or my brother and sister their POV listening to our POV, without the mindset that they being eldest are only right and at times these sessions would run for days without any hostility or bad feeling.
It all depends on what is allowed and the age of the children. In my school, we used to get caned. i would not agree to that. However, the odd smack on the bum with a slipper will do.
For instance, there was a case in Texas a few days ago where a school gives students the choice of getting "paddled" or suspension. Rather than spend two days in in-school suspension for allegedly letting another student copy her classwork, one well-regarded student chose to get paddled.
Now her mother is up in arms because her bottom was bruised....
I still like to be smacked on my hot bum..any mothers like to volunteer?
I think parents should smack their children whenever wherever, we're meant to be together.. Errrr... sorry lost the track
Jokes apart .. I don't see anything wrong with parents smacking their kids "occasionally" and when necessary.. but again do not punish your children in front of others because that would make them feel humiliated and ultimately go rebellious.I have seen many arab (parents) smacking their children in public like malls and parks etc. which in my opinion is TOTALLY wrong..
Otherwise, all is good.. i got punished a lot as a kid.. but look at me now.. All the girls love me .. i can still take some smacking from my father.. :P
A slap can go straight to the point very quickly and it can get very quick results :O(
In today's day i think we should just take away their Facebook privileges :P
Fathimah, well said.....I resented my parents when I got it. Made me want to do it more. Any type of abuse, verbal or physical is not the solution.
We are now in hi-technology era..accept it, our current children time is different from what we have 50 years ago.
Somehow the thought of hitting ,even lightly, another's child is just wrong. For teachers there are many better ways to discipline a child than resorting to the kinda corporal punishment our teachers used. Now that was quite brutal and far from bettering us it certainly encouraged naughty kids like I was to be more naughtier as a form of revenge and defiance.
Ok.. so who wants to get smacked now ??
Agree with you Fatimah, the occasional smack, on the right occasion, can work.
But totally against teachers smacking kids.
Smacking is a serious punishment and shouldn't be given out lightly, and it needs to come from a loving parent.
Modern education system spoils the creativity of children? Where did you get that from?
I was talking about parents smacking their kids..teachers on the other hand are a big No No.
On that note..when i was smacked for something i did wrong i always found other creative ways to do more naughty things so that should answer your question. :P
And beating them black and blue, I do think a little smack or two is called for when all other attempts fail. But in all honesty, many times we grown ups tend to lose patience fast. Most kids are suckers for kind words and compliments, and often using these tactics are far more effectual than whacks. And the downside of even light beating is that it can send the message across to the kiddo that violence is a solution to getting your way. Then when they, in their immaturity, do this to say there classmates, it causes us to have to reprimand them again..a vicious cycle!
Are you talking about parents smacking their children or teachers smacking the children?
I don't see how corporal punishment encourages creativity, from what I've seen it has the opposite effect.
i think whacking the children stiffles the creativity and makes them scared to think of new ideas.
However i think if used sparingly and with the other righ ingredients (coaching, love.....), it can be helpful.
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9pm ?
Hav been trying for long to sleep by tat time, but usually get to bed by 9 and sleep by 10:30pm....:(
Coz i believe..."they" treat kids with rights just as any adult. The only rights the kids should have is to shut up and eat their veggies, do their home work and be in bed by 9:00pm :P
So true Smokie!!! How come everyone today is too much of a Hussy to smack their kids around? ):
I believe all kids should be whacked when they do something wrong...its the way our forefathers brought us up and look how good we turned out :P