The emergency services should not need to look for a floor plan, they should visit the mall, get to know it. They should know everything about public places or large industrial sites.
This is what happens elsewhere!
I'm at fault, my daughter used to go there and I never checked the emergency plans.. I won't forget in future!
you will see this floor plan where the store or boutiques are located (usually inside a glass). There you will see where the fire exits are and toilets etc etc. Maybe they should put more like this in ALL corners of a mall so everyone is aware.
Schools and office building can easily do fire drills, BUT malls, honestly speaking, I have not seen one. MAybe the admin staff and employees.
Its all about the awareness. People who work in Malls are never been given fire and safety training and what to do in case of FIRE. They only know the exit doors and nothing else and officials said in the statement LACK OF FLOOR PLANS and MALFUNCTIONING SAFETY SYSTEMS WERE MAJOR HINDRANCES TO THE RESCUE EFFORT It clearly means that NO one from the management and safety department were bothered to timely check the safety measures of the MALL. As per the Officials the rescue and support staff were on the place within the minutes but unable to save lives of 19. In my point of view it is to be blamed by the every single person who was involved in Management and Safety Department of the mall and we should abide going to malls if there is no Proper exit plan in case of any Emergency
Investigation will bring out the real cause of the incident, and then they will work hard to avoid any such incident in the future.. this is what investigation and committee have to do!!
will not help anyone or anything. Unless you are part of the investigation team that will do the thorough accounting of everything, please refrain or at least practice restraint from giving possible causes or insinuations. For sure, investigation will not be finish in few days, let us wait before we react.
and do not forget the expat will be held responsible for the accident
why i am not wondering about this very sad tragedy in the villagio?
are there any really good safety standards? does anybody independently control it?
i feel sad for the families - my deepest condolences - paying the price for this mess.
and by the way, i am member of the fire brigade in my hometown, i am just amazed, according to the pictures i saw, fire fighters running around without any gloves or other protection gear........
So if a Qatari drives up Salwa road at 120kph at 06:00, hits an ex-pats car and kills him (the expat).. it's the will of Allah.... But an accident that kills Children is just an accident.. not the will of Allah?
So Sad.Deepest condolence to the families who lost their loved ones.Authorities are requested to revisit the safety measures of other public malls.Very sorry to the parents of Gympanzee Nursery.Such nurseries in public malls be banned immediately to avoid recurrence.
May Allah bless those children, teachers and fire fighter personnels, who lost their lives in this fire
My deepest condolences goes to all the parents and close relatives of those who lost their children and family members.
Hope Qatar will Learn lesson from such tragedy and hold semi annual rehearsal on crisis management and disaster recovery in case of fire. Provide sufficient and effective measures to ensure not to repeat such incidence in future.
I can confirm that there were fatalities, as a dear friend of ours' 1 year old baby boy has died as a result of the fire... reports are that there are more children who were in the nursery that have died... I pray that ALLAH gives the families strength to cope with the loss of their children... INALILAHI WA INA ILAHI RAJIOON
I'm wishing to go visit the place supposed to be this Thursday but with this unfortunate tragedy, my plan will surely be cancelled. The mall might close for a week or more. :(
I will get some images up as quickly as I can, but I am convinced there were fatalities. They were working on one person on the roof. Ahhh... I can't explain. I will get images up as quickly as I can.
Sorry am a bit busy here. I have seen loads of casualties some small children. It is still burning here but the ambulances have calmed down now. When I arrived I could hear women screaming. The grief here is terrible.
Yes BBoy there was a small fire that broke out yesterday and the security staff put it out quickly. Today it happens again and quickly erupts into this huge fire. The strange thing though during the last three weeks, this is the second time that fire breaks out at this up market shopping mall. I think someone should get fired over this. Start with the mall Manager!
well can say stupid who notice the fire at friday yesterday i could notice the electrical smell damn now today it happened again now here we come who to blame about this ???? big question mark
oh god! I was there last evening to watch MIB 3. The fire alarm get on going on while we were watching the movie. On one occasion people left the cinema, but the guard outside told that it was a false alarm and someone was smoking! After the first event, we kept ignoring the alarm thinking it is false alarm. OOOh god!! Thanks a million!!!
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The emergency services should not need to look for a floor plan, they should visit the mall, get to know it. They should know everything about public places or large industrial sites.
This is what happens elsewhere!
I'm at fault, my daughter used to go there and I never checked the emergency plans.. I won't forget in future!
you will see this floor plan where the store or boutiques are located (usually inside a glass). There you will see where the fire exits are and toilets etc etc. Maybe they should put more like this in ALL corners of a mall so everyone is aware.
Schools and office building can easily do fire drills, BUT malls, honestly speaking, I have not seen one. MAybe the admin staff and employees.
Its all about the awareness. People who work in Malls are never been given fire and safety training and what to do in case of FIRE. They only know the exit doors and nothing else and officials said in the statement LACK OF FLOOR PLANS and MALFUNCTIONING SAFETY SYSTEMS WERE MAJOR HINDRANCES TO THE RESCUE EFFORT It clearly means that NO one from the management and safety department were bothered to timely check the safety measures of the MALL. As per the Officials the rescue and support staff were on the place within the minutes but unable to save lives of 19. In my point of view it is to be blamed by the every single person who was involved in Management and Safety Department of the mall and we should abide going to malls if there is no Proper exit plan in case of any Emergency
Investigation will bring out the real cause of the incident, and then they will work hard to avoid any such incident in the future.. this is what investigation and committee have to do!!
My deepest condolences to families that loses their love ones (19 souls)
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/19-dead-qatar-nursery-fire-191106847.html
this is not the time. Let us discuss this some other time.
dear flo1212, there are no blamings and finger pointing
and i ask you, what will the investigation bring out? the truth?
anyway, i say again, my deepest condolences with all the families and relatives
Except in Muslim countries - where everything is the will of Allah! or is that statement only applicable for good things.
I remember the expat being killed on Salwa road.. and other "accidents" which all seemed to be the will of Allah!
will not help anyone or anything. Unless you are part of the investigation team that will do the thorough accounting of everything, please refrain or at least practice restraint from giving possible causes or insinuations. For sure, investigation will not be finish in few days, let us wait before we react.
http://youtu.be/desAU63AXA0
My thoughts are also with the families, as I said, my daughter used to go there and I know the teachers.
We haven't been able to contact our friend who's daughter also went there, we are hoping they are away..
Read twice:
Accidents may happen anywhere...
well said nethers, very well said
and do not forget the expat will be held responsible for the accident
why i am not wondering about this very sad tragedy in the villagio?
are there any really good safety standards? does anybody independently control it?
i feel sad for the families - my deepest condolences - paying the price for this mess.
and by the way, i am member of the fire brigade in my hometown, i am just amazed, according to the pictures i saw, fire fighters running around without any gloves or other protection gear........
So if a Qatari drives up Salwa road at 120kph at 06:00, hits an ex-pats car and kills him (the expat).. it's the will of Allah.... But an accident that kills Children is just an accident.. not the will of Allah?
Understood...
Accidents may happen anywhere...
May Allah bless all the kids!
My Daughter used to go there everyday, thankfully I left Qatar for somewhere safe and decent..
Many of you are saying Allah bless their souls, I thought you said everything was at the will of Allah!
So Sad.Deepest condolence to the families who lost their loved ones.Authorities are requested to revisit the safety measures of other public malls.Very sorry to the parents of Gympanzee Nursery.Such nurseries in public malls be banned immediately to avoid recurrence.
Inna lillahewa inna ilhey rajioun
May Allah bless those children, teachers and fire fighter personnels, who lost their lives in this fire
My deepest condolences goes to all the parents and close relatives of those who lost their children and family members.
Hope Qatar will Learn lesson from such tragedy and hold semi annual rehearsal on crisis management and disaster recovery in case of fire. Provide sufficient and effective measures to ensure not to repeat such incidence in future.
Condolence to the families who lost their loved ones during fire incident at Villagio.
Lets hope and pray that non of these things will ever happened again.... :(
Was there no any fire alarm??
I have come to know about this tragic incident through QL...Local media is absolutely nil to cover such a horrific incident...Shame!
Heartiest condolence to those who lost their loved ones..
Feel terribly sorry and sad for lovely angels...
may Allah bless their souls and grants patience and peace the parents & relatives of the dead.
19 dead, 13 children and 4 teachers as per web news
I think they(MOI)declared 14 children by mistake...
19 according to MOH
Yes killer-g 20 people are died
It's waring for Alllha. No need more details every one know what is going on in food curt
some ppl said that there was 20 ppl who died,is that right?
so sad...
we are hearing sad news of many causalities involving kids. My heart bleeds for them.
wish no one is injury, least losing.
tsk tsk tsk!
4 confirmed including a kid according to AlJazeera's Taahir Hoorzook Head of Art and Media,
Very bad taste to make jokes!..I have heard there are casualties as well..People being brought out in body bags..so sad :(( R.I.P
I think it's called bad humor.
Sorry to hear that zinc...
انّا للہ و انّا الیہ راجعون
Zinc.. Really sad to know that .. :(
Innalillahi wa inna ialhi rajioon !!
I can confirm that there were fatalities, as a dear friend of ours' 1 year old baby boy has died as a result of the fire... reports are that there are more children who were in the nursery that have died... I pray that ALLAH gives the families strength to cope with the loss of their children... INALILAHI WA INA ILAHI RAJIOON
how fire started?
Is everything under control now?
I'm wishing to go visit the place supposed to be this Thursday but with this unfortunate tragedy, my plan will surely be cancelled. The mall might close for a week or more. :(
its really tragic ,I was just there on the weekend hopefully casualties are minimum or non.
I will get some images up as quickly as I can, but I am convinced there were fatalities. They were working on one person on the roof. Ahhh... I can't explain. I will get images up as quickly as I can.
Let us hope and pray that it looks worse than it is and the casualties are at a minimum ..
Fire extinguishing operation has been completed.
Wasn't village suppose to b demolish this yr for the expansion of khalifa stadium? Insurance claims?
And the govt webistes say no deaths! how did they even know when the fire at the mall is still burnin!
hope all are fyn..
The emergency crews are awesome
Just another day
i pray Allah save all of them ameeen..........
This is terrible...
Ohh...
TB...so sad you have delivered these news to QL.
So sad!!
That's terrible..
Sorry am a bit busy here. I have seen loads of casualties some small children. It is still burning here but the ambulances have calmed down now. When I arrived I could hear women screaming. The grief here is terrible.
Hope Everyone is Safe and Sound.
Seems like TB is getting updates through Twitter... ;)
seems like the tweets, sms, BB broadcasted messages have slowed down. (under control??)
Let's wait a little longer and see.
@dohanews stated that they will post again whenever they get an update!
Regards!!
Updates please....
@dohanews; @DohaBen; @katiebakesx road block at the torch, ambulances still getting to the site!!
Regards!!
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This is very bad. I am witnessing what must be one of Qatars darkest days. I have tears in my eyes.
Yes BBoy there was a small fire that broke out yesterday and the security staff put it out quickly. Today it happens again and quickly erupts into this huge fire. The strange thing though during the last three weeks, this is the second time that fire breaks out at this up market shopping mall. I think someone should get fired over this. Start with the mall Manager!
well can say stupid who notice the fire at friday yesterday i could notice the electrical smell damn now today it happened again now here we come who to blame about this ???? big question mark
Update : seems to be under control now.
#VillagioFire Firefighters have reached the main source of fire at Villagio and surrounded the area with all means to extinguish fire.
— MOI, Qatar (@MOI_QatarEn) May 28, 2012
I hope nobody gets hurt
oh god! I was there last evening to watch MIB 3. The fire alarm get on going on while we were watching the movie. On one occasion people left the cinema, but the guard outside told that it was a false alarm and someone was smoking! After the first event, we kept ignoring the alarm thinking it is false alarm. OOOh god!! Thanks a million!!!
fire not yet under control. One person taken to the Hospital. Mall fully evacuated!!!
Let's hope for the best!
Regards!!
Heard they controlled the fire, Now only worried about casualties, Hope everyone is safe out there!
from @dohanews and @MOI_QatarEn report no deaths in Villagio incident; people being treated for smoke inhalation.
Be careful about spreading rumors since it is punishable by law.
Regards!!
i hope everyone is safe!
Ministry of Interior - Qatar, posted the following on Facebook...
Fire outbreak at Villagio near by Gate No. 3. Firefighters on the site to control. No deaths reported. Suffocation reported due to heavy smoke.
Today or yesterday, May Allah safe them all.
is it serious that kids are injured or no , May Allah keep them safe :'(
what was the bb message?
Yes Tim we were were supposed to go there but the place was full of people everywhere, the cars were moving like crazy so we ran away.
All approach roads are closed. I am on waste land quite a distance away. There is stll loads of smoke.
Going by the pic, seems to be a matter of great concern..
Thai Chi was what started it
I can't get near the place
disaster.
hope they rescued all
Looked like a big ball of fiery smokes. Was passing by it when it happened.
Agree Khanan.. BBM broadcast is giving bad news.. Hope no casualties :(
HOPE ALL ARE SAFE
Holy Fckin sh*t...What the puck
OMG ..
Hope all are safe
Oh No! Hope All is well.
@khanan: I hope for the best as well.
@nomerci: you have a point, indeed does not look right!!!
Regards!!
Does not look too good....
some bad news is coming in through BB Broadcasr....
Hope its not true...