British Expat salary expectations

Ignore the sour grapes of classic1970.

Believe me. it's heaven for westerns...

Here they treat people with regard to their nationality and nothing else. if you own a western passport, you will be treated with great honour and respect but if you own an Asian passport then be prepared as they will let you cry....believe me as i was born and raised here only and still i'm an expatriate...:(

As said multiple times above, no such thing as a guarantee here, due to labor laws. The job can be legally withdrawn with minimal justification or cost from the employer. Don't be fooled by any promises they make in terms of longevity.

That said, the packages is ok IF it includes the following--

Housing (can run between £30-60 a year with bills depending on quality)

Car allowance

Home leave (a business class ticket each year or cash equivalent for you and wife)

Education (not an issue now, but school fees can be expensive here)

Private health (you do not want to rely on the national service)

If you get these things on top of the salary you mentioned, then it is a good offer. Otherwise, it is not worth the move as any extra salary will not offset the cost of living.

Arafin, what makes you jump to conclusion that I am having a physical relationship? My fiance and I were planning to get married in August of this year. With this offer, things may change though.

I mentioned wife in a sense that when we are married. Currently I have taken the mortgage on the basis of collective household income.

Hope it makes sense.

Arafin - on the money!! Answer that OP??

THIS is by far the best comment!!

Stay in UK. 3000 pounds difference, not worth it considering alot of lifestyle changes you will undergo here. By the way you are a Muslim eh, its haram for a Muslim to have a physical relationship outside of marriage. Call me a religous freak but You should know that if you are Muslim.

you compare combined income (yours and your partner's) in London with your personal income in Doha. It's not clear. You have to compare your 4500 with 10500, and see the difference. Your partner cannot come and live here with you unless you are married. And in any case, if your partner is here, she (or he) can find a job too, so collective income shall be higher than 10,500.

I think, the offer is not too bad (10500 against your current 4500). the only thing, there are no any guarantees here.

is the job/role itself. Its easy to get caught up in figuring out the economics of the move itself at this stage.However one thing you seriously need to consider is the role itself and the organization you'll be joining.Is the role challenging enough.Whats the work culture like at the 3 places you mentioned ? Take claim's about a culture based on openness,meritocracy etc etc with a very large grain of salt.I don't care what anyone else says,be prepared to get rusty professionally after having spent time here.Its ironic but the pace of things here can be so slow and the lack of exposure to a challenging environment means that you are bound to be at a disadvantage if/when you go back home.

On thing you mentioned is that the position offered is on a "permanent" basis and not a contract . What did you mean by that ?Depending on the company,everyone here starts with a 2 or 3 years "contract" .

Also your post on 01/11 said "not married yet". Post on 01/12 says "my wife". Which one is it bud? As someone pointed out,you have to be married if you want the company to sponsor your lady.

Mate, speaking from an HR point of view which I do, leave everything you know about UK/EU employment protection and legislation at Heathrow airport - it will be of no use to you out here. "Our house, our rules".

Expect Amazing!

@Classic1970.....mate that is seriously funny, best laugh I've had in a long time "since you are coming to HEAVEN"....brillant thanks for the early morning funnies!

Dear, since you are coming to HEAVEN, you don't have to worry about.

You also got a PLUS point of being British regardless of your religion, race or colour. Here you people are treated with great respect and honour.

Just come here and you will realise that those people means other nationalities are getting less salary than you bcz they are not having any Westerners passports.

Many people flew to West just to get a passport and upon coming back here, they were surprised that they were getting 6 times more salary than any other Asian passport holder.

So Welcome to Qatar as this is the best place to live especially for you guys.

Cheers

dude same here the figure i gave you is total with eveything included. so its same situation

Bummer...housing and transport is not included for me. Schooling not an issue. Although I took the same view (no less than my UK salary), I thought the tax free would be enough to make it worthwhile.

I think I need to have a conversation with the proposed employer...

thanks everyone

the way im thinking is that its a forty pecent jump and if my wife also gets some job then could go even more. at the moment uk is both of us working and in qatar only i will be making 3k more than our collective income.

btw annually also its 10k more than what i get in uk before tax

IMHO , if the difference is as you say, then you might as well stay in the UK.. You are earning good money in Blighty. You will be leaving behind friends and family and uprooting the kids. Also , the schools are better in the Uk,,

point of view I made a decision before being offered a contract that it would be no less than my UK salary (before tax) and that housing, schooling and transport would be included, and it has worked fine for me. As for wanting any guarantee, I very much doubt it! good luck.

You need housing! It's part of a standard package unless they are giving you a large amount of cash (12,000+) in lieu of housing. AND furnishings!

Mandi

Oh no! I am in a similar position (numbers are the same but single) but no housing or transport included...have I accepted a rather silly offer?!

Your package will need to include all housing and transportation to make it worthwhile. Guarantees? Oh, dear, that is a funny one. You may get 7 days notice to leave the country! This is Doha. And, of course, you will need to be married before you come.

Mandi

re the organisation, I am talking to a few at the moment. Namely QIA, QNB (National bank) and QCB (Central Bank).

Also to add I have about 13 yrs of experience.

I think you misunderstood me brother. I am a Muslim and Islam teaches me to treat everyone equally. The only reason I mentioned I am British is because, generally if I move from UK then I have different levels of monetary commitments compared to people from other nationalities. Simple example would be to compare average mortgage rates in London vs. other countries.

If you also simply compare the current take home that myself and partner have as a household to be in London, and then compare it with similar type of work in countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Egypt, etc, etc then you will realise for same work you get a lot more in UK (purely because of exchange rates difference). In reality it does not make a difference because you are spending it in UK as well.

So in my view, If my major outgoing and debts are in pounds, then I will not be selling myself short to uproot my family and social life in my home in London for same salary.

Hope it makes sense?

Dear sorry to saybut can you plz tell me whhat os the point in mentioning that u r british...? And y british expect that they will get higher then other expats here..? Do they are more genius then others..? Do they work 24/7 or do british have few more senses..? Well for me its a total racism. And dont know mostly well literate ppls are involve in racism & discrimination..

Dear if you have experince at any high post then you can get around 20k except allowances.. But here it also depend on organization i mean which organization u r going to apply..