Well of course she is Brit, she just got aquitted after 4 years in prison. Let the poor thing have her limelight. Everyone seems to forget that there is a man serving 30 years in prison who's, DNA was all over the crime scene, for her murder.
Her family have used money and influence of the media to get her freed. The simple fact is that she is free, Italian Police are tainted and Meredith is forgotten.
isnt that why some of the Americans are protesting in Wall Street and other cities http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/04/wall-street-protest-movement-spreads
Yes, money can out weigh justice but I don't think that's the case here... If miss Knox is innocent then all benefits that she's going to receive would be an equivalent trade for the 4 years that was taken from her though I think it wouldn't be enough because money isn't everything. Have any one seen the movie next 3 days? It's really good especially the wife which was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Does miss Knox have a motive? Just curious...
MM. I think we are not going to agree on this, I think the only people who truly know what went on is Guede, Knox and Solliceto and I don't think we will ever find out
Well "distasteful" behaviour doesn't make a person guilty. Frankly I'm not sure how much I would be saying about MK if I were in Knox's situation, considering how her every move was blown up in the press to vilify her. I think most people would find their dead friend taking a back seat to their murder trial.
Her age does not explain a great deal of things about the case - it might give people pause to give her the benefit of the doubt but it cannot change certain facts.
I don't actually believe she kille MK but I do believe she was there. I also find it astonishing that throughout this very little has been said by her or her family about MK, which is distasteful in itself.
Innocent 20 year olds who feel like they might be charged with murder would do a lot of things I would say, including pointing the finger at someone else and changing their stories, and denying that someone was with them. All of these actions can be explained by fear, naiveity, the trauma & shock of finding your roomate dead, youth and the pressure of interrogation in a foreign country where you don't speak the language fluentely. They don't equal murder.People do stupid things when faced with the idea of jail, even if they haven't done the crime.
But MM - she never retracted it and she let an innocent man go to jail and only when an independent witness verified his true alibi was he released - if that is not a liar then call me a liar
Also, why did her boyfriend deny she was with him on the night of the murder especially as they had had relations - seems mighty odd that he could forget someone being there, particularly as she clamied they had been intimate.
Also, innocent people don't repeatedly change their stories the way she did.
A lie told after hours of interrogation while she was in shock. She's not the first nor the last innocent person who got the facts wrong in those kinds of circumstances.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/8803077/Amanda-Knox-Guilty-or-innocent-five-reasons-why.htmlWell even the telegraphs "evidence" of guilt is entirely circumstantial and relying on a 20 year old girls psychological state after a traumatic experience and the drug addled memory of her boyfriend. I can't say that in similar circumstances (especially at the age of 20) that I wouldn't have done and said the same things.To me it seems like the Birtish press and the Italian police were looking for someone to villify and a good looking confused 20 year old and her boyfriend were easy pickings.
Please don't forget she has also been convicted of another criminal offence - false accusation, which was not overturned, therefore can you really trust the word of a convicted liar??
Here's what I've found about the "evidence" against her, frankly it's far from damning and speaks more about the media looking for a sexy story and the incompetence of the Italian police than a guilty 20 year old:http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1904571,00.htmlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/15036490
The cynic in me wonders if what happened yesterday was the Italian authorities saying we've had enough of this hassle with the US and really don't fancy another 20 years of it. Guilty or not, she's served four years, let's get shot of her.
BE - As I sated, I suspect that the police and forensic team did such a poor job that all evidence had to be treated with a level of doubt and suspicion, even though some of it was probably very valid, take this point (from the Telegraph):
The bra clasp was only found six weeks after the initial crime scene investigation, by which time it had been kicked around the floor of Miss Kercher’s bedroom, leading to a high risk of contamination
If this is the level of forensic/police work that is presented in court, no wonder they had cause to disregard/ignore anything else the police put forward.
also, I find it very strange that after she said she was not in the apartment at the time and was actually with sollicito in his apartmnet, he then says - sorry, I don't remember her being there at all - which is rather strange thing to say particularlyas they had not been boyfriend/girlfriend all that long and she says they had had sex (sorry, what young man does not remember that type of details?).
The forensic evidence was treated so unprofessionally that it brought into doubt all the FE but it does not mean it was ultimately wrong just that the police were imcompetent so the court had to discount all of that evidence and not it is too late to go back.
There was also the fact that the 'supposed' breakin was nothing of the kind. it is highly likely that due to the way the room was disordered that it was a staged break in.
Solllito and Knox were seen arguing by a witness near the apartment but unfortunately as he was a drug addict his testimony was discounted in court.
As far as I can see all this points to is that the police did not do a very good job and therefore was not strong enough to stand up to an appeal but it does not mean she was innocent. I rather tend to believe she is not.
And again, I still have not yet heard much from her about the vicitm, it is all woas me and a lot of tears - where were her tears when Meredith died, apparently she sat in the police station the day after she dies and laughed and joked with friends - who does that?
jjj75, where did you read that she confessed to the crime? From what I understand she signed something saying she saw another man enter Ketcher's room. She never confessed to the murder. Also, there was no proof that the footprints belonged to Knox only that they MIGHT be Knox's. The only thing that had Knox's DNA on it, was a knife found at her boyfriends apartment that was deemed to be incompatibale with the murder weapon. I know wiki is hardly a bastion of truth but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Knox
MM - actually I suspect there has been some political footwork going on here and Italian Justice is not exactly renowned as being fair and impartial (just look at Belusconni's brush with the italian courts as an example).
What they did not cover here is that despite foxy knoxy maintaining that she was never there, why were her footprints found in the blood of the victim, in the victims room.
She confessed several times to the crime - once when she had been release she wrote a 5 page article about her guilt. The she retracted this and she said someone made her do it (even after she was free??)
She blamed someone else, who luckily had an alibi, innocent people don't tend to go round blaming other people for crimes they know they have not done, these are the actions of the guilty.
Also, her appeal was upheld solely because of the dodgy forensic evidence. The reason this was so dodgy was due to Italian police's incompetence, it does not mean that the evidence was not there, just they did not treat the crime scene/physical evidence in a very secure/procedural way, e.g. once vital piece of physical evidence was not found till days later (despite lying around the victims room all the time) and had by that time been trodden on by many people many times.
What I also find appalling in all this is that I have not heard much from the Knox family about poor Meredith Kercher, let us not forget that a poor girl died in dreadful circumstances.
This case was a wonder to say the least what with so many twists and turns yet what always stood out was the lack of evidences to prove that Knox actually killed her friend. As for her making money then,supposing her to be innocent, then its all the better considering the hefty amounts her family must have had to fork out both for the case itself as well as on constant traveling from Seattle to Italy. But to the question asked in the OP:Money can only take one so far but justice will sooner or later be served!
I think Casey Anthony and Amanda Knox are two entirely different cases. If you read the case histories there was next to nothing connecting Knox to the Ketcher murder, and Italian police completly botched the investigation. In the Anthony case...well I'm not sure what the jury was thinking there.
The reimbursement should come from the state, not from TV and film rights. She is now going to milk the system and become a celebrity - if she isn't one already.
How did I know you would post something on Foxy Knoxy Brit. :) I don't think the money she stands to make had anything to do with the verdict, and I think the fact that the "media"s (by which I mean the Daily Mail) even mentioning the fact that she stands to make money from this is shoddy journalism. If she is indeed innocent, should she not get some kind of reimbursement for the 4 years that she's spent in jail?
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I though they're just room mates? Hmmm...
And most have forgotten that she danced and partied just after her best friend had been murdered..
Read truejustice.org and be informed.
Well of course she is Brit, she just got aquitted after 4 years in prison. Let the poor thing have her limelight. Everyone seems to forget that there is a man serving 30 years in prison who's, DNA was all over the crime scene, for her murder.
now the spin starts...
Meredith's picture may be there , but it is Amanada who is in the limelight and front page news.
Given that Meredith's picture and her family are all over the news, I would highly doubt she is forgotten.
Her family have used money and influence of the media to get her freed. The simple fact is that she is free, Italian Police are tainted and Meredith is forgotten.
Life goes on - for some!
isnt that why some of the Americans are protesting in Wall Street and other cities http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/04/wall-street-protest-movement-spreads
Definitely Money cannot buy you sleep but can buy who you sleep with!Same for goes for Justice!
Yes, money can out weigh justice but I don't think that's the case here... If miss Knox is innocent then all benefits that she's going to receive would be an equivalent trade for the 4 years that was taken from her though I think it wouldn't be enough because money isn't everything. Have any one seen the movie next 3 days? It's really good especially the wife which was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Does miss Knox have a motive? Just curious...
MM. I think we are not going to agree on this, I think the only people who truly know what went on is Guede, Knox and Solliceto and I don't think we will ever find out
Well "distasteful" behaviour doesn't make a person guilty. Frankly I'm not sure how much I would be saying about MK if I were in Knox's situation, considering how her every move was blown up in the press to vilify her. I think most people would find their dead friend taking a back seat to their murder trial.
Her age does not explain a great deal of things about the case - it might give people pause to give her the benefit of the doubt but it cannot change certain facts.
I don't actually believe she kille MK but I do believe she was there. I also find it astonishing that throughout this very little has been said by her or her family about MK, which is distasteful in itself.
Innocent 20 year olds who feel like they might be charged with murder would do a lot of things I would say, including pointing the finger at someone else and changing their stories, and denying that someone was with them. All of these actions can be explained by fear, naiveity, the trauma & shock of finding your roomate dead, youth and the pressure of interrogation in a foreign country where you don't speak the language fluentely. They don't equal murder.People do stupid things when faced with the idea of jail, even if they haven't done the crime.
But MM - she never retracted it and she let an innocent man go to jail and only when an independent witness verified his true alibi was he released - if that is not a liar then call me a liar
Also, why did her boyfriend deny she was with him on the night of the murder especially as they had had relations - seems mighty odd that he could forget someone being there, particularly as she clamied they had been intimate.
Also, innocent people don't repeatedly change their stories the way she did.
A lie told after hours of interrogation while she was in shock. She's not the first nor the last innocent person who got the facts wrong in those kinds of circumstances.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/8803077/Amanda-Knox-Guilty-or-innocent-five-reasons-why.htmlWell even the telegraphs "evidence" of guilt is entirely circumstantial and relying on a 20 year old girls psychological state after a traumatic experience and the drug addled memory of her boyfriend. I can't say that in similar circumstances (especially at the age of 20) that I wouldn't have done and said the same things.To me it seems like the Birtish press and the Italian police were looking for someone to villify and a good looking confused 20 year old and her boyfriend were easy pickings.
Please don't forget she has also been convicted of another criminal offence - false accusation, which was not overturned, therefore can you really trust the word of a convicted liar??
Try the telegraph - well respected UK broadsheet newspaper
Here's what I've found about the "evidence" against her, frankly it's far from damning and speaks more about the media looking for a sexy story and the incompetence of the Italian police than a guilty 20 year old:http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1904571,00.htmlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/15036490
JJJ75, care to post some of these newspapers? I haven't found any stories with the evidence you're talking about.
Also as one guardian commentator put it:
The cynic in me wonders if what happened yesterday was the Italian authorities saying we've had enough of this hassle with the US and really don't fancy another 20 years of it. Guilty or not, she's served four years, let's get shot of her.
BE - As I sated, I suspect that the police and forensic team did such a poor job that all evidence had to be treated with a level of doubt and suspicion, even though some of it was probably very valid, take this point (from the Telegraph):
The bra clasp was only found six weeks after the initial crime scene investigation, by which time it had been kicked around the floor of Miss Kercher’s bedroom, leading to a high risk of contamination
If this is the level of forensic/police work that is presented in court, no wonder they had cause to disregard/ignore anything else the police put forward.
Sorry but I must disagree. The case against Casey anthony was circumstancial and the jury saw throught it. The prosecution failed to prove guilt.
In Amanada Fox's case, she has changed her story time and again. I don't know what the appeal judges were thinking..
From reputable UK newspapers - not WIki
also, I find it very strange that after she said she was not in the apartment at the time and was actually with sollicito in his apartmnet, he then says - sorry, I don't remember her being there at all - which is rather strange thing to say particularlyas they had not been boyfriend/girlfriend all that long and she says they had had sex (sorry, what young man does not remember that type of details?).
The forensic evidence was treated so unprofessionally that it brought into doubt all the FE but it does not mean it was ultimately wrong just that the police were imcompetent so the court had to discount all of that evidence and not it is too late to go back.
There was also the fact that the 'supposed' breakin was nothing of the kind. it is highly likely that due to the way the room was disordered that it was a staged break in.
Solllito and Knox were seen arguing by a witness near the apartment but unfortunately as he was a drug addict his testimony was discounted in court.
As far as I can see all this points to is that the police did not do a very good job and therefore was not strong enough to stand up to an appeal but it does not mean she was innocent. I rather tend to believe she is not.
And again, I still have not yet heard much from her about the vicitm, it is all woas me and a lot of tears - where were her tears when Meredith died, apparently she sat in the police station the day after she dies and laughed and joked with friends - who does that?
jjj75, where did you read that she confessed to the crime? From what I understand she signed something saying she saw another man enter Ketcher's room. She never confessed to the murder. Also, there was no proof that the footprints belonged to Knox only that they MIGHT be Knox's. The only thing that had Knox's DNA on it, was a knife found at her boyfriends apartment that was deemed to be incompatibale with the murder weapon. I know wiki is hardly a bastion of truth but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Knox
MM - actually I suspect there has been some political footwork going on here and Italian Justice is not exactly renowned as being fair and impartial (just look at Belusconni's brush with the italian courts as an example).
What they did not cover here is that despite foxy knoxy maintaining that she was never there, why were her footprints found in the blood of the victim, in the victims room.
She confessed several times to the crime - once when she had been release she wrote a 5 page article about her guilt. The she retracted this and she said someone made her do it (even after she was free??)
She blamed someone else, who luckily had an alibi, innocent people don't tend to go round blaming other people for crimes they know they have not done, these are the actions of the guilty.
Also, her appeal was upheld solely because of the dodgy forensic evidence. The reason this was so dodgy was due to Italian police's incompetence, it does not mean that the evidence was not there, just they did not treat the crime scene/physical evidence in a very secure/procedural way, e.g. once vital piece of physical evidence was not found till days later (despite lying around the victims room all the time) and had by that time been trodden on by many people many times.
What I also find appalling in all this is that I have not heard much from the Knox family about poor Meredith Kercher, let us not forget that a poor girl died in dreadful circumstances.
This case was a wonder to say the least what with so many twists and turns yet what always stood out was the lack of evidences to prove that Knox actually killed her friend. As for her making money then,supposing her to be innocent, then its all the better considering the hefty amounts her family must have had to fork out both for the case itself as well as on constant traveling from Seattle to Italy. But to the question asked in the OP:Money can only take one so far but justice will sooner or later be served!
I think Casey Anthony and Amanda Knox are two entirely different cases. If you read the case histories there was next to nothing connecting Knox to the Ketcher murder, and Italian police completly botched the investigation. In the Anthony case...well I'm not sure what the jury was thinking there.
But Casey Anthony was innocent :O)
Corruption? In Italy? Naaaaaaahhhh, how dare you?
Surely it's a rhetorical question..
If Casey Anthony can be released why not Amanda Knox !
Again, if she just spent 4 years wrongfully imprisoned, why shouldn't she?
The reimbursement should come from the state, not from TV and film rights. She is now going to milk the system and become a celebrity - if she isn't one already.
Seriously though, I think the orginal investigation was corrupt enough, you didn't need to bribe the judges.
Ask Berlusconi then eh?
"are Italian judges susceptible to corruption?" ROFLING!!!!! Are the French fans of cheese?
are Italian judges susceptible to corruption?
How did I know you would post something on Foxy Knoxy Brit. :) I don't think the money she stands to make had anything to do with the verdict, and I think the fact that the "media"s (by which I mean the Daily Mail) even mentioning the fact that she stands to make money from this is shoddy journalism. If she is indeed innocent, should she not get some kind of reimbursement for the 4 years that she's spent in jail?