i have unfortunately lost a few close friends through addiction, they where not famous nor wrote amazing songs but they shared the same seclusion, isolation that must of bestowed the late amy, people say it is not an example, a role model should make, but who made her a role model as i gurantee it was never her, i have seen at first hand the detioration that addiction can bring on to someones life and often found myself in helpless situations no matter how hard i tried, it annoys me, her father has bitched at the government about the lack of support available to people with addiction, but a famous quote is 'you can lead a horse to river but you can not make it drink the water'a moments thought should be taken by all to reflect at how precious a life we have and how easy it can cease exist,
old news, i know. but i just found this beautifully written tribute to amy by russell brand and i thought should share. didn't expect he could write something like this. i suddenly have a newfound respect for the guy, as well as an appreciation of how talented amy was. i don't know how big a celebrity he is because i've only seen him do a stupid job of hosting the mtv awards awhile back. he is a former addict himself. still looks like one though :)http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/110--pop/russell-brand-tribute-amy-winehouse-102010167.htmlthis is my favorite part:"I was myself at that time barely out of rehab and was thirstily seeking less complicated women so I barely reflected on the now glaringly obvious fact that Winehouse and I shared an affliction, the disease of addiction. All addicts, regardless of the substance or their social status share a consistent and obvious symptom; they're not quite present when you talk to them. They communicate to you through a barely discernible but un-ignorable veil. Whether a homeless smack head troubling you for 50p for a cup of tea or a coked-up, pinstriped exec foaming off about his "speedboat" there is a toxic aura that prevents connection. They have about them the air of elsewhere, that they're looking through you to somewhere else they'd rather be. And of course they are. The priority of any addict is to anaesthetise the pain of living to ease the passage of the day with some purchased relief."reading stuff like these make me less judgmental of other people and realize i have no right to be self righteous
I will set you a challenge, we should both look through as many threads as possible where we have both been active, then post links to all threads that people have been critical of our views, i will bet my house, my car, my salary and my dog that i would not have the time to gather all of yours but hey, it would be fun!
I'm sure he wouldn't feel this way if her songs were karaoke favourites eh?!...i guess "go to rehab no no no" wouldn't go down too well in the karaoke clubs eh?! :)...
well flor, as you know,a lot of people idolized the kiddie fiddler (MJ), incidentally there were a lot of people from your country among them....and of course, they did it because of his music....I suppose Amy does not look THAT bad anymore, no? Amy, RIP.and btw...i did not wish the same to MJ.
i guess your right but ive seen a lot of pictures of her without make-ups and she was in the beach,she was so skinny and her skin was really dry that's why it made me think that she was in 40's..
scissorhand, on the whole she looked old because that is the style she cultivated (although the drugs did add on a few years but not 25!). Madonna carefully controls her image and probably has had surgery.
actually i really don't know her,i don't even know her music,what i actually know is she was a drug addict.that's all..but seriously i thought she was the same age of Madonna,i guess bec.of the side effect of drugs that's y she looks so older than her real age.
I went to see her in Dubai in february and she just did not know what was going on and she was as bad as the concert she put on in Serbia. Ironically the UK press the following week was saying she had got her act together.
Those promoting her concerts and the record producers pushed her to perform when she was not able to, they certainly did not have her best interests at heart. She should have gone to rehab for more than a week at a time.
In the sea of pop stars who think they are talented, surely we have lost one who truly had the potential but wasted it.
It's said the cause of her death was a massive seizure brought on by her quitting drugs and her continued alcohol abuse. I'm not surprised she's dead, but I feel for her family who I know did their best to try and get her help. May she rest in peace.Now...who wants to take bets on when Lyndsy Lohan's going to die? :P
She led a troubled life. Her friendship with druggies Pete Doherty and husband Blake Fielder did not help. In addition, she admitted having eating disorders and being a manic depressive. The last couple of years were bad for drunkenness and abuse. A tragic end. May she rest in peace.
but her life was not a good exmaple. Look at the comments above, is theer someone who posted that she is a best example of people NOT turning to drugs.All you see is she's a good singer and songwriter. I never said that anyone of us idolize her but you could bet that many do, the young generation maybe. And what's the message, drugs is ok. She's a known drug-user, but could still perform her acts (maybe even under the influence).Someone even implies that it will be fun UP there when she meet the other "27's". So te message is what, LET'S do drugs and when we die, we go UP there?I'm sorry, I am not one of those who believes that when you die, you will go straight to a destination, UP or DOWN or IN-BETWEEN. Simply, you DIE and you remain dead and buried somewhere until JUDGEMENT day!
For someone who is proud of being 50 you sure dont act it. Sitting behind your computer screen putting the world to rights will be the one and only achievement that you can claim in that sad little life of yours!
It is only suspected she has died from a drug overdose.With her history of substance abuse - it is likely to be the cause of her death.However, nobody knows that 100% (including us).Let's not get into which country has drugs or not - we would be foolish if we did not recognise that ALL countries are touched by drug problems.A much loved member of a family has died at a young age.Is it proper that we look for the supposed cause of her death or sling mud at her or other countries.This is sad enough without adding layers.
Alumnar,well if life on any part of the planet could be described as living in a bubble,it's this place so it's apt i guess!...never ceases to amaze me how people living here,for years on end @ times,have no clue as to what REALLY happens in this place...
May she RIP - she was a talented song writer and singer.She was only 27 - so very, very sad. Let's not judge her - people who love her would not want that nor does she deserve it.
Flor, I do not idolize anybody. I am not a teenager! She had talent (great songs) and was gifted with a fantastic voice. She abused her body with illegal substances and is dead. RIP is too much to wish? She harmed herself. She did not harm you, me or anybody we know. What makes people turn to drugs? Availability of drugs, easy access, problems, millions of reasons. We don't know hers. She had the money to buy them, was weak to give in to the habit. She is dead now. Let her be an example of the kind of path not to follow but still: RIP Amy Winehouse.
wow. full coverage of her death at bbc world news. was she that big of a star?yeah she's a good singer but i first heard of her because of her drug problem and not through her music. i only know the "rehab....no, no,no" song
don't know that drug addiction is bad and could kill you. MAny are devastated by her DRUG overdose? So what's the message? You reap what you sow. Unfortunately, even in death like this, the "idols" seems to be idolize!
turning to drugs and alcohol when you are famous (?) , I can't consider a talent. It sends wrong signals to many who in one way or another "idolize" suct artists or musicians or whatever you may call her!
Flor, what a sad comment from you. I thought you were a mature man? She had an amazing voice and wrote many of her songs. Is that not talent? Wasted, yes. But still talent.
A great talent wasted and a young life lost . may she rest in peace. I have often wondered why the Police and especially her friends allowwd her to abuse her body so openly.
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i have unfortunately lost a few close friends through addiction, they where not famous nor wrote amazing songs but they shared the same seclusion, isolation that must of bestowed the late amy, people say it is not an example, a role model should make, but who made her a role model as i gurantee it was never her, i have seen at first hand the detioration that addiction can bring on to someones life and often found myself in helpless situations no matter how hard i tried, it annoys me, her father has bitched at the government about the lack of support available to people with addiction, but a famous quote is 'you can lead a horse to river but you can not make it drink the water'a moments thought should be taken by all to reflect at how precious a life we have and how easy it can cease exist,
old news, i know. but i just found this beautifully written tribute to amy by russell brand and i thought should share. didn't expect he could write something like this. i suddenly have a newfound respect for the guy, as well as an appreciation of how talented amy was. i don't know how big a celebrity he is because i've only seen him do a stupid job of hosting the mtv awards awhile back. he is a former addict himself. still looks like one though :)http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/110--pop/russell-brand-tribute-amy-winehouse-102010167.htmlthis is my favorite part:"I was myself at that time barely out of rehab and was thirstily seeking less complicated women so I barely reflected on the now glaringly obvious fact that Winehouse and I shared an affliction, the disease of addiction. All addicts, regardless of the substance or their social status share a consistent and obvious symptom; they're not quite present when you talk to them. They communicate to you through a barely discernible but un-ignorable veil. Whether a homeless smack head troubling you for 50p for a cup of tea or a coked-up, pinstriped exec foaming off about his "speedboat" there is a toxic aura that prevents connection. They have about them the air of elsewhere, that they're looking through you to somewhere else they'd rather be. And of course they are. The priority of any addict is to anaesthetise the pain of living to ease the passage of the day with some purchased relief."reading stuff like these make me less judgmental of other people and realize i have no right to be self righteous
LOL! Happy you are enjoying the great grub back home hun :))) xxx
Fraid so love - sorry - thinking of you though lol xxx
Full english again? Fish 'n Chips?
Droooooooooolll!!!! ;P
Night darling xxx
for me cabbage, g'night pal!
..... Good on you cabbage! she is hot! anyway we have gone from Drugs ruin lives to Lauren Pope's breasts!!??!! keep on topic please! :0)
gudnight :P
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh her - lol sorry. Yep she is a bit tasty lolNot that I am into women but I know a fit bird when I see one :-)
she has got a mean pair of cubs then! all the same to me!! :0P
na amnot into puppies am into cubs :P
Are you not keeping up?? lol
Sorry - but beat you to it - had a full English this morning :-/Who has got nice puppies? lol
she has got a mean pair of puppy's though!! :0)
that was info i did not want to hear!! next week when i go home i will think of you when biting into a bacon sarnie!! :0P
na she is skinny :D
Had fish and chips today and thought of you lol x
What about Lauren Pope? the sexiest model from the UK ever! :0P
well didnt find any one better yet :D
Lucy Pinder again??? lol x
will do! now on ignore mode!
@ LIS,waste of time this one,just completely ignore the ignoramus,works for me...
It does not matter if you liked or idolised her - a young talented woman has died.Show some respect for that if nothing else.
I will set you a challenge, we should both look through as many threads as possible where we have both been active, then post links to all threads that people have been critical of our views, i will bet my house, my car, my salary and my dog that i would not have the time to gather all of yours but hey, it would be fun!
she is dead gone finished so what you guys poking each other for.quit it and lets talk about lucy pinder or penelop cruz
3 against 1?So are you really from your country you represent?
oh boohoo! little baby's crying!...
it is the same on every thread that you are involved in, nobody agree's with you! I think you should take the hint!
any others who wants to join?
MR Goodlooking.So, what's the message, NOMERCI? LIKE and IDOLIZING are the same?
I'm sure he wouldn't feel this way if her songs were karaoke favourites eh?!...i guess "go to rehab no no no" wouldn't go down too well in the karaoke clubs eh?! :)...
Lis, I know.Just whiling a little time away ;)
unfortunately you would have more chance extracting blood from a stone than getting a reasonable response from the resident moron.
well flor, as you know,a lot of people idolized the kiddie fiddler (MJ), incidentally there were a lot of people from your country among them....and of course, they did it because of his music....I suppose Amy does not look THAT bad anymore, no? Amy, RIP.and btw...i did not wish the same to MJ.
An inquest has been opened and adjourned.At the moment the cause of her death cannot be determined.
i guess your right but ive seen a lot of pictures of her without make-ups and she was in the beach,she was so skinny and her skin was really dry that's why it made me think that she was in 40's..
scissorhand, on the whole she looked old because that is the style she cultivated (although the drugs did add on a few years but not 25!). Madonna carefully controls her image and probably has had surgery.
actually i really don't know her,i don't even know her music,what i actually know is she was a drug addict.that's all..but seriously i thought she was the same age of Madonna,i guess bec.of the side effect of drugs that's y she looks so older than her real age.
about things, cause they seem to happen when I do....
Pilgram.... LL is following soon;-p
I went to see her in Dubai in february and she just did not know what was going on and she was as bad as the concert she put on in Serbia. Ironically the UK press the following week was saying she had got her act together.
Those promoting her concerts and the record producers pushed her to perform when she was not able to, they certainly did not have her best interests at heart. She should have gone to rehab for more than a week at a time.
In the sea of pop stars who think they are talented, surely we have lost one who truly had the potential but wasted it.
I hear George Best is delighted, he just heard there's a winehouse on its way to hell.
Ah, Pilgram, a Dead Pool.
It's said the cause of her death was a massive seizure brought on by her quitting drugs and her continued alcohol abuse. I'm not surprised she's dead, but I feel for her family who I know did their best to try and get her help. May she rest in peace.Now...who wants to take bets on when Lyndsy Lohan's going to die? :P
She led a troubled life. Her friendship with druggies Pete Doherty and husband Blake Fielder did not help. In addition, she admitted having eating disorders and being a manic depressive. The last couple of years were bad for drunkenness and abuse. A tragic end. May she rest in peace.
but her life was not a good exmaple. Look at the comments above, is theer someone who posted that she is a best example of people NOT turning to drugs.All you see is she's a good singer and songwriter. I never said that anyone of us idolize her but you could bet that many do, the young generation maybe. And what's the message, drugs is ok. She's a known drug-user, but could still perform her acts (maybe even under the influence).Someone even implies that it will be fun UP there when she meet the other "27's". So te message is what, LET'S do drugs and when we die, we go UP there?I'm sorry, I am not one of those who believes that when you die, you will go straight to a destination, UP or DOWN or IN-BETWEEN. Simply, you DIE and you remain dead and buried somewhere until JUDGEMENT day!
I'm with scissorhands on this! She did look a LOT older than 27. I guess drugs to that to you too.
For someone who is proud of being 50 you sure dont act it. Sitting behind your computer screen putting the world to rights will be the one and only achievement that you can claim in that sad little life of yours!
Well said...
And let us respect the departed.. At least she touched our lives with her music.
Sad it is to see things happen to people, be it famous or even the common person. That's where a good upbringing by family and friends come in.
Amy Winehouse..R.I.P...
It is only suspected she has died from a drug overdose.With her history of substance abuse - it is likely to be the cause of her death.However, nobody knows that 100% (including us).Let's not get into which country has drugs or not - we would be foolish if we did not recognise that ALL countries are touched by drug problems.A much loved member of a family has died at a young age.Is it proper that we look for the supposed cause of her death or sling mud at her or other countries.This is sad enough without adding layers.
Alumnar,well if life on any part of the planet could be described as living in a bubble,it's this place so it's apt i guess!...never ceases to amaze me how people living here,for years on end @ times,have no clue as to what REALLY happens in this place...
May she RIP - she was a talented song writer and singer.She was only 27 - so very, very sad. Let's not judge her - people who love her would not want that nor does she deserve it.
Gadarene - so true, but some people rather live in a bubble: 'If you cannot see it, it does not exist'... D'Oh!!!!
Flor, I do not idolize anybody. I am not a teenager! She had talent (great songs) and was gifted with a fantastic voice. She abused her body with illegal substances and is dead. RIP is too much to wish? She harmed herself. She did not harm you, me or anybody we know. What makes people turn to drugs? Availability of drugs, easy access, problems, millions of reasons. We don't know hers. She had the money to buy them, was weak to give in to the habit. She is dead now. Let her be an example of the kind of path not to follow but still: RIP Amy Winehouse.
wow. full coverage of her death at bbc world news. was she that big of a star?yeah she's a good singer but i first heard of her because of her drug problem and not through her music. i only know the "rehab....no, no,no" song
oh really she's only 27?i thought she's in 40's already...
@ Kutch,FYI EVERYTHING happens here in Qatar...just that you aren't aware of it! :)
good thing we are in Qatar and ZERO drugs here! Thanks god :)
don't know that drug addiction is bad and could kill you. MAny are devastated by her DRUG overdose? So what's the message? You reap what you sow. Unfortunately, even in death like this, the "idols" seems to be idolize!
turning to drugs and alcohol when you are famous (?) , I can't consider a talent. It sends wrong signals to many who in one way or another "idolize" suct artists or musicians or whatever you may call her!
Flor, what a sad comment from you. I thought you were a mature man? She had an amazing voice and wrote many of her songs. Is that not talent? Wasted, yes. But still talent.
I see that you still have the ability to be a pathetic human being, good on you!
wasted?
hehehe it'll be a hellofa party upstairs,,,
welcome to the "27 club" amy.you now join the likes of hendrix, morrison, joplin & cobain who died at the same age.
A great talent wasted and a young life lost . may she rest in peace. I have often wondered why the Police and especially her friends allowwd her to abuse her body so openly.
drugs can make your head bald...
Such a good talent gone to waste :( .. May she rest in peace..... i like her voice and songs ...
Who is she?