Loud and clear............

Formatted soul

Your comment is incorrect, unwarranted, useless.

Good you commented, now I have a name for absurdity !

Mom me, sure, I understand what you are saying. But you see, there are many, many people in the UK and all over the world that have such work ethics. I do not, for one moment believe that what Mr. Tata said is entirely true. Now, maybe somebody was "spinning" his words for a certain effect for a certain reason...that seems very likely to me.

But if indeed Mr. Tata said what was posted here, it gives a very bad impression of him as a business/people leader.

And as he is a very successful man, I can't quite believe he would use the words posted above .

Now I agree with the last paragraph of the OP without any doubt or further verification.

Nomerci, don't shoot the messenger (in this case Tata), do something about the message. People working in Tata have a 'Tata work culture' and those whom you mention may be taking the work ethics of the company they are working for. Mr. Ratan Tata ensures (in the best of my knowledge) that people have a passion to work for him/ his company.

Mom me, it does seem that way.Maybe Mr. Tata must keep his businesses in India or shift them to India, or he must import the workers with the work ethics he requires.

Funny thing though, I know of quite a few cases where employees, incidentally from India, here in Doha are never reachable during the weekend, even when they know there is an emergency at work.

Maybe they left their Indian work ethics in India.

Khanan...me from Pakistan???? who is spreading such rumors about me!!!!

The Tata clan has helped revive indian economy post independence.

The company 'Tata'is an esteemed organization who takes good care of its employees but commitment towards the organization is an intrinsic trait expected. Probably this very Indian work culture is too much to ask for in other parts of the world.

The only thing that transpires loud and clear from Mr. Tata's statements is that , despite having a business in the UK, he doesn't seem to be aware of the worker's rights in said country.

and if it sounds generalizing, those who will feel the heat are really those who deserved such remarks! But if you're not, why are you on the defensive mood?

Do you think the Chairman will remove all British MAnagers? Of course NOT! Accepting citicisms sometimes is really a hard thing to swallow. And again, by whom............???????

@ Khanan,i suggest you agree with this "under 18 yr. old Afghan cook" or risk having a long cut&paste link from somewhere shoved down your throat! *wink*! :)

One of my best friends back home is Parsi & have learnt a LOT from him about their culture,history & food! yummmy! anyways,the guy's grandfather fought in the freedom struggle & even went to jail for it,the "Afghan cook" should try telling him he's not Indian!...

The levels of ignorance one encounters on this site is appalling,to say the least...

is this "Afghan Cook" you referring to in your posts??

Parsis are very much Indians and I love their culture and history..

HGL..I heard you are from Pakistan?? Is it true??;)

'The cook' = formatted soul

So now you are going to tell me Freddie Mercury is not British Rock Legend?

Well that would explain it then FS. Thanks for clarifying ;)

TB..he did participate in this thread with his other id..:)

JackSully.... you have contributed very little to this debate, and just seem to be joining in at the last to do a bit of personal bashing. How very big of you.

A Latin Quote for "the cook" :

'damnant quod non intellegunt'

(They pass judgement on what they do not comprehend.)

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The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right. ~Mark Twain

I was merely referring to two amongst the number of communtities that make up what is modern day America,never claimed anything about who discovered it first nor which communities came first...but once again,nice try!...oh & btw,by your logic,President Obama ought to be Kenyan-Irish should he not?...

It really amuses me when people,to start with,using a FALSE profile of themselves,having been banned once already & from a different nationality & culture to mine with obviously no clue as to what they're talking about,no real idea of the country in question or it's people,except for the immigrants they've seen back home & their limited contact with the same community here & links they've found on the internet try to argue with me...about people from MY country!...laughable! to say the least...stupidity knows no bounds with some people!...

Cabbage, I am not sure you were on what last night while you wrote those posts starting 9.22 pm...as nothing that you wrote makes any sense.... pure breed, British/English, Welsh, Columbus, America, China with something South Asia in between... what is all that...**scratching my head to make some sense out of it**.... hope you are not saying that none of us belong to any nationality and that it is a myth when all of us are actually the fruits of disobedience of eve committed under the influence of the Serpent...:)

Anyways, when you get well help me understand you...:)

insightful thread!!

This "cook" from Afganistan sounds IDIOT.

For those that know nothing of any history at all -

Columbus discovered America but there are rumours, China was there first. Not the Italians or the Irish.

They came much later :-)

Lakshmi Mittal still holds on to his Indian passport. he travels using the same. There was an interview where he was asked about this and he replied he saw no reason to change his nationality.

Sorry for the sidetrack.

South Asia, also known as Southern Asia, is the southern region of the Asian continent, which comprises the sub-Himalayan countries and, for some authorities, also includes the adjoining countries to the west and the east. Topographically, it is dominated by the Indian Plate, which rises above sea level as the Indian subcontinent south of the Himalayas and the Hindu Kush. South Asia is surrounded (clockwise, from west) by Western Asia, Central Asia, Eastern Asia, Southeastern Asia and the Indian Ocean.

According to the United Nations geographical region classification, Southern Asia comprises the countries of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Nepal, Maldives, Afghanistan, Iran and Sri Lanka. By other definitions and interpretations, Myanmar and Tibet are also sometimes included in the region of South Asia.

Like the rest of the world - India is a wonderful mix of cultures and religions.

Nobody in any country in the World can be described as a 'pure breed' we are a mix of so many different cultures and religions.

This is fantastic and something to be embraced.

Like the United Kingdom - we are English, Scottish, Northern Irish and Welsh.

Do we get on? Not all the time and the battles for independence is massive.

Would we try to 'claim' some are British/English because our bruised egos need that kudos - No.

We are very happy with our own culture and do not need to claim any person/culture to be part of our 'nationality' by default.

Mind you in some cultures some people do try and grab anything or anybody as they think it makes them look good :-(

Sad really.

I would rather be curious now to know from the all knowledgeable.. who is an Indian or who can be considered as Indian....I am seriously in doubt about my nationality now...:)

oh & one more thing,no 'Indian' Indians refer to themselves as "South Asian",that's a term used by the west to describe people from that part of Asia,so if you're going to quote a source,i suggest you try something that's a little closer to home!...by your logic,none of the Americans are really Americans because they immigrated from Ireland & Italy?!?!?!...

India has welcomed many tribes and cultures.The ARYANS who occupy a substantial demography in India have also migrated in to India from Central Asia just like the parsees (from Iran).

erm,no thank you,UNLIKE you,i'm INDIAN,just like them,but thank you for your concern...btw,if you do ever visit India & do meet a Parsi in real life,please don't make the mistake of suggesting they're anything but Indian,they find it very offensive...this is like me trying to explain to you the difference between the English & the Welsh,it would seem like a pretty foolish thing to do now wouldn't it?...oh wait,what i'm saying,you're an "18 yr. old male Afghan cook" aren't you?...so much for credibility!...

Just to confirm to all those that are confused what Parsis is about - where they come from, their culture and religion; I hope this helps :-

www.the-south-asian.com/

Do a search about them and you will find all the info you need :-)

I used to consider the guardian a credible newspaper that actually knew what they were writing about...clearly not,ANY newspaper on the planet that claims Parsis aren't Indians DO NOT HAVE A CLUE & therefore are NOT a credible source...nuff said...

Glad you could see I am not jealous at all.

The posting by me was actually a copy and paste from a feature in The Guardian-

www.guardian.co.uk/

It was just pointing out that he may claim to be Indian he is in fact not- the words were not mine just a copy and paste from an article. My apologies I should have just posted the link at the same time.

However, it does not matter if he is or not really. The man does not sound like any manager I would want to work for and it seems other people do not either.

I found this interesting –‘ to quote ‘

Tata reportedly told The Times that he found staff unwilling to participate in meetings if they had a train to catch home, even if he had flown in from India. He said it was impossible to get hold of workers at the weekends

Read more: http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1841306#ixzz1NAy8OCxf

If he let the managers know that he was flying in and wanted a meeting and they left – then they are in the wrong. If he just dropped in unannounced than tough on him – that is not effective management at all. As for contacting them at the weekends; he is not married so he obviously can be a workaholic and work 24/7, if he chooses to do so. Some people do have a family life and that is why we have weekends off – to rest and gather energy for another working week.

It seems to be a case of Mr Tata wanting his staff to dance to his tune at all times – sorry that does cut the mustard. He may own the company but he does not own the people.

My point being that he's another Indian chap who's worked hard to get where he is. You mentioned Forbes and it reminded me.

Blackburn - pie eaters one and all ;o)

I am over and out on this thread - it is clear that GOJ got what he came for. to create some xenophobic race/nationality bashing and no good can come of further pursuing this topic.

MOD - where were you here?

@ Baldrick,fair enough mate...sorry but i didn't get your point about Mittal's stake in QPR or was it just for my info.?...Blackburn Rovers is now 100% Indian owned, by B.V.Rao,India's poultry king...

Gadarene: This surprised me; While watching QPR playing the other week I was intrigued as to who the smartly dressed Asians were in the stand that the cameraman kept zooming in on:

Here is a list of billionaire football club owner in the world’s leading like it was written by Forbes.

1. Lakshmi Mittal

Wealth: U.S. $ 28.7 billion

Club: Queen’s Park Rangers

Lakshmi is the Indian-born British citizen who controls ArcelorMittal, the world’s largest steel producer with sales of U.S. $ 65 billion a year. Mittal buys 20 percent stake in Queens Park Rangers (QPR) in 2007. The highest achievements of this club, FA Cup finalists. The main shareholder of QPR, more than 60 percent is the boss of Formula One, which is Bernie Ecclestone.

Taken from http://www.dnewsglobal.com/list-ten-richest-football-club-owner-world-1/1657.html

@ Baldrick, FYI,ALL the brown skinned people you see back home standing in line to collect benefits aren't Indians you know,as a matter of fact i'm willing to bet you a 100 riyals that amongst the South Asian community on benefits in the UK,Indians would be the LOWEST minority,i'm not mentioning what the other nationalities are lest i be called racist again but i have you down as someone with a brain based on your comments here,so figure it out...Indians in the UK CONTRIBUTE to your (currently scr#$@d) economy by paying their taxes & working bloody hard be it by running corner shops or gainfully employed as doctors,lawyers,accountants,IT consultants,engineers,nurses,bus drivers,need i go on or do you get the point?...

Gadarene, it ain't my economy. I have sweet F.A. input into the UK, and have no intention of every returning there.

I only mentioned Indian spongers as they were the topic of conversation. I KNOW there are Pakistani spongers, Afghan spongers, Iranians, Armenians, Turks, etc. and I'm actually impressed that Romanians are sweeping Britain's streets while Brits are happy to sponge off the government too, while complaining that "Foreigners" are taking their jobs!

@ timebandit,no this wasn't meant to be a bashing thread but has turned into one,so looking back at what turned into one, "patronizing lying sod with a shyte work ethic" followed by a long,absolutely ridiculous(but very amusing to read!) diatribe on how Ratan Tata IS NOT Indian because his community came to India some CENTURIES AGO from Persia & because "took to life in California while he was a university student there" & because "he's still unmarried & reads a lot & loves sports cars & fast boats."...?!?!?!

If you seriously thought no one was going to reply to THAT,i'd have to say you weren't really thinking mate...

To clarify my stance,i'm all for work time & own time to be separate from each other & weekends are sacred to me as well but i will admit without a moment's hesitation that the generally perceived "slave labour" Indian work ethic is showing it's results globally,i believe it's pretty obvious for everyone to see,a case in point being the Tata takeover of Jaguar & Land Rover as well as the growing number of Indians on the Forbe's global (NOT just Asian) big player's list...

Nah SMS attack...:)

**troll attack**

baldric...ya, well, that's not the big news....we all know THAT. ;)

But Mr. Tata could import them, no? I mean there seem to be quite a lot of Indian people who would like to live in the UK from what I understand...if nothing else, there is always Pakistan.

If he is happier with the work ethics from that part of the world, then he might just have to look for his manpower there.

ROFL B2D

Nomerci, they are 'earning' too much on benefits to take a job :P

Well, if he is not happy with British employees, he can always hire Indian ones, no?

And joe, those articles do make your day, don't they? As long as you can find anything that IYO makes the

West look bad, you are a happy little joe, rofl.

Obviously the MODS are Indians and hate the British too ;)

HGL

Yes, but you missed my point completely, what purpose did it serve. There are newspaper quotes and postings on here all the time, the majority are not designed (as this one was so clearly meant to do) to offend anyone, just bring about healthy debate or share a strange story from another land. The intent/purpose behind this was clear from the start and it has a slightly sinister flavour about it, particularly when someone just says

'oh it is healthy debate, that is all, what is your problem?'

That is not what this was about at all and you know it.

jjj75...here you go:

"...its just like any other thread where news from around the world gets posted and 'discussed'... the countrymen from either side could have voiced & shared there opinion..."

Does it make sense now.

Tinker

I agree and to be honest I would not support any type of post that was deliberately offensive as this one was. Normally the MODS are keen to remove something so blatant, clearly not today.

AND

HGL- I don't understand your comments, they did not make sense

jjj75... why this thread has been posted...my POV I have already posted on my last post before this one...and I am as much against any kind of bashing as anyone ... its just the distorted view people take and go on to use nasty language that piques me … and then getting into such areas as "TATA is not an Indian", or ‘the poster is a mallu’...what has that got to do with the post or its bashing element … you can’t be doing otherwise while you want sanity to prevail… guess it works both ways…

As for it is not about Qatar, I think you already got the answer to that…

Tinker, I think you have missed my point, I don't think anyone really minds posts that start with

"somewhere...." 'i wanna die..." "cant u seem im hurt, they are usually inocuous and not aimed at being unpleasant etc. But Again and neither GOJ or HGL were willing to clarify what purpose this thread served if not to 'have a go' and open up an offensive debate. Someone posting about a bad boyfriend or someone else's woes are perhaps slightly irrelevant but certainly not offensive - THIS IS NEITHER and not desgined to be anything but offensive. Sorry to repeat this but I have not had my answer from the first time I asked the question .

jjj75 I am not sure

sorry for my ignorance, what is a Mallu

jjj75 s_isale says "good old joe is a mallu :)"

"And lastly - all this sqabbling like children and name calling - is this going to CHANGE anything ANYWHERE be it India or Britain??? NO"

I am going to make a similar quote to you the next time you are having a rant.

** yawn....**..

*sleep mode *

tb, that was the reason why i asked that particular question.

Bashing not allowed, Constructive criticism is allowed..

TB I accepted things at face value - what nationality do you think he is?

Sounds to me like a pretty old school takeover tactic. Take over a company and fire all the management so there are no traces of the old regime behind. Fill the positions with your people.

This tactic was one of the reasons unions were created in the first place. Perhaps Mr. Tata is taking a page from Henry Ford's book.

FA I have no problem with that. I have a problem with a nationality bashing thread. Any nationality bashing thread.

s_isale why am I not surprised? Why do people do that? Why not be honest about your nationality? Thank you for confirming that which I suspected.

1500 employees who are been Terminated are Britishers???

good old joe is a mallu :)

jjj75 you think Good old joe is Swedish? I know his profile says that, but do you relay believe it?

Goold Old joe and HappyGL, I do have a question, what was the purpose of posting this thread? What did it do except to annoy British people who for the majority work quite hard - We could all find articles on the internet about Sweden and India which would paint these nations and their nationals in a less than favourable light but that is a rather unpleasant way to go about things

Again, I ask what was the purpose to post this, it is neither funny nor instructive and it is not about Qatar.

http://www.tuc.org.uk/workplace/index.cfm?mins=315&minors=302&majorsubjectid=2

so, all "workers" are alike,

lets have peace and good time in Qatar....!!!

Happy, you mean "patronising lying sod has a shyte work ethic" in the 3rd post itself?

and what do you mean in ME (previosu post)?

in Qatar it's always "Qatari the Boss" (rightly so) and rest.....just workers with diff designations....just workers nothing else!!

You don't see this as a generic British Bashing?

"........... and to think that some of this very guys or their colleagues are conducting customer relationship seminars and trainings in this part of the world which happen to teach things like positive attitude, going the extra mile, delighting customers, motivating staff and the list goes on makes it sound like this guys are teaching one thing out here and practicing exactly the opposite back home"

I dont agree that this is a British bashing thread...its just like any other thread where news from around the world gets posted and 'discussed'... it was turned into one that is another story... if wrong words were not used from the word go feeling threatened, it would have been a sane thread where the countrymen from either side could have voiced & shared there opinion...

Ahhhh... I see.... this is turning into an Indian against Brit thread. I am among the first to bash my own nation here on QL. I hate the fact that trade unions destroyed the majority of our great industries. But the same trades unions brought workers their rights and stood up against bullying employers.

This thread is not about TATA and the British. This thread is simply a British bashing thread. And in the same way that I will stand up for any other nation that is being bashed. I am going to criticize the OP and anyone else that joins in with the bashing.

I can't stand week minded kids who hang around with bullies.

Tatas are bad......(pun intended)

see this (Tata Steel to cut 1,500 jobs in Scunthorpe and Teesside http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13469088

"Disgruntled that British managers are still held in such high regard and sought all over the world?".... guess India is part of the same world...didn't see any British guy being held in high regard or any better there....may be the world here means ME...

To all who are on this "Indians are slave labourers" "the bosses expect that from their non-Indian employees as well." etc...here's the deal,like it or not, Ratan Tata is their boss,he pays their salaries so he calls the shots,if they don't like it,they're free to leave,though finding another equally well paying job(or even close) in the current economic climate in the UK might be a tad hard,so really the famed 'British managers' don't really have much of a choice now do they?...

Do i agree with it? To a large extent,no but again,i'm not sitting in the boss' chair,Ratan Tata is...but then again,he's not really Indian anyways eh?!...

So Parsis aren't Indian because they came to India some CENTURIES ago?!?!?!...i mean really,what's a few centuries in terms of a community establishing themselves in a country & being called citizens of that country eh?...so lesson for today is Parsis aren't Indian,Ratan Tata isn't Indian because he's Parsi & lives a lifestyle which to some unaware,ignorant people goes against the idea they have about how Indians live their lives because according to THEIR IDEA of Indian lifestyle,we all watch mindless Bollywood films,dress garishly,ride elephants & speak funny English right?...Brilliant analysis,Einstein would be put to shame if he were around...

As for the OP itself,i personally believe that work time & own time ought to be strictly separate & that is how i live my life but sometimes there comes a need to compromise a little which i'm not averse to,so while i'm completely against "slave labour",I(& the rest of us) cannot deny the fact that this Indian work ethic which is viewed as "slave labour" by some is producing the results for all to see because hard work,no matter where it is,will produce results sooner or later,there isn't & shouldn't be an argument about it because the ample proof of that is staring everyone in the face,the UK's economy is down in the doldrums,all one reads/hears about these days are 'cutbacks','budget constraints','on the verge of financial collapse' etc. when it comes to that economy as opposed to the Indian economy, 'double digit growth consistent year after year','economy growing despite global crisis','Tata group buys out Jaguar/Land Rover','Indian poultry king B.V.Rao buys Premier League club Blackburn Rovers' etc...the writing is on the wall i dare say?...

So Jo... Me thinks you have a problem with the British... Well do you? A little envious maybe? Disgruntled that British managers are still held in such high regard and sought all over the world? Perhaps a little miffed that you are not British? Your post say's many things about you, and your views. Would I like to go to the pub and enjoy an evening chatting with you.... NO!

His rants seems based on his belief that work should come before family. Whereas in Britain the belief seems to be Family before work. So who is right?

the supposed learned ones too can get pissed off at times :) when they r rubbed the wrong way

Interesting!!!

bytheway, the press release as referred above, is meant for Tata’s remark on Ambani (not on his course correction for his comment on “his” workers)

I thought she was just correcting the English of G-O-J which she is used to do when at loss of words because whatever she said didn't make any sense...BTW I can understand the hurt the words of Tata would have caused but what to do I am just loving it...

Tata will need to clean his own backyard first.

Cabbage doesn't sound jealous at all. She's just correcting good old joe's British-bashing thread.

The Tatas aren't really Indian and the OP was a press release from the Tata group trying to justify firings. Let him call the British lazy for wanting to have a life-work balance and not being his devoted slaves. Clearly he is used to abusing his workers' human rights and taking advantage of their vulnerability.

And good old joe is right. It the Tatas' company. Let them run it into the ground if they want to. Right or wrong, world perception is that luxury cars are made in Japan, Europe and the US: the idea of an Indian or Chinese luxury car will sound like an oxymoron to most of the potential marketplace, including the Indian one.

What maybe okay and fine for you is certainly not the same for the other person.

Read more: http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1841306#comment-1883268#ixzz1N7ePt5Oq

Sorry - had to do this -

It is - 'What may be' (it's not maybe). Two different meanings:-)

Anyway do carry on :-)

Its just that he choose to leave his life in a different way with which he seemed more comfortable.

Read more: http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1841306#ixzz1N7cttjY6

Did you mean LEAD??

Your reply made no sense at all to me and believe me - no jealousy here :-)

Pointing out facts :-)

Cabbage, you really sound jealous and all worked up now. Its just that he choose to leave his life in a different way with which he seemed more comfortable. You cannot expect everybody to do the things that you think is okay for you or with you. What maybe okay and fine for you is certainly not the same for the other person.

The words used most often to describe Ratan Tata are shy and loner. The 71-year-old chairman of the Tata Group shuns the media spotlight.

Quiet and unassuming, the Indian business baron drives himself to work in an unremarkable Tata sedan. His beachfront bachelor pad is found in the hippest tip of south Mumbai, but Ratan has only CDs, books and his dogs for company.

He does not drink or smoke. His vices revolve around speed: driving fast cars, flying jets and at weekends racing his speed boat across Mumbai's harbour.

Yet this week Ratan Tata found himself making headlines - and characteristically ducked any interviews. The reason for the attention was that Tata Group found itself cast as reverse colonialists: an Indian company taking over two of the most distinctive British marques in car-making - Jaguar and Land Rover - for a little more than £1bn.

A symbol of the shift in power from west to east, Tata is now the ultimate boss of 16,000 British workers who were until this deal employees of US giant Ford.

Like the 24,000 people who worked for Corus, acquired last year by Tata Steel for £6.7bn, Britain has become an "insourcing" hub for Ratan Tata: a base for foreign operations of an Indian multinational.

In many ways Ratan Tata is an accidental millionaire, a gifted interloper in a family that had everything but children. The Tatas belong to the Parsee religion, a small, tightly-knit Zoroastrian community, which originates from PERSIA and found sanctuary centuries ago in India.

Traditionally Parsee priests, the Tata family fortune was started by Jamsetji Tata, who made the company's name by opening a textile mill in 1868. Strikingly, the entrepreneur offered workers pensions and paid accident compensation.

The Tatas slowly built up a formidable business but by 1917 the family was running out of heirs. Naval H Tata, Ratan's father, was born with little else than a famous name: his parents died young, leaving him to be raised at an orphanage.

But Naval was destined to win life's lottery: at 13 he was adopted by the Tata's formidable matriarch, Lady Navajbai Tata, who had been left childless and widowed at 40.

This chance event was to change history. Naval H Tata rose to become deputy chairman of Tata Group. Instead of grinding poverty, Ratan Tata grew up in the lap of luxury at Tata Palace, a white Baroque revival-style building in the centre of Mumbai. Attended to by a retinue of 50 servants, he was driven to school in a Rolls-Royce.

America held a special fascination for the young Ratan Tata. He studied architecture at Cornell University and travelled across the country, washing dishes to make ends meet. He took a management course at Harvard.

California, in particular, held him spellbound. Not only did he witness the beginning of the state's technological boom but he admired the "easy, warm, casual lifestyle" of the west coast.

Ratan Tata admitted falling in love with a young woman in America, making him a reluctant dynast. But the family's dearth of talent saw him summoned back to India.

He only designed two houses: his mother's and his own beach-house off the Arabian sea. His two closest friends, Amar Bose who made billions from audio equipment, and conductor Zubin Mehta, a fellow Mumbai Parsee, remained in the United States.

Once in Tata, the young Ratan rose swiftly, although he complained that his name was more of a burden than a boon. By 1982 he was chairman of Tata Industries and heir apparent, learning at the feet of his uncle Jehangir Ratanji Dadabhoy Tata, who faced down the socialism of an India convinced the Soviet Union would outlast America. Ratan became chairman in March 1991, just as Moscow's communist empire dissolved.

Gita Piramal, India's leading business historian, said Ratan Tata has never been fully reconciled to being the scion of a family firm. "I have argued with Ratan over this.

"The Tatas are a reconstructed family who adopt and cobble together people to make a family. That way they do promote talent rather than blood relations. Ratan was clearly talented, but he resents the implication."

What marks Tata out is its social conscience. In conversation, Ratan Tata appears moved by fairness not money. He owns less than 1% of the Tata group, a personal fortune of £300m. Over two thirds of Tata Group is owned by charitable trusts that finance good causes.

With no children, Ratan Tata is supposed to retire in December 2012, when he reaches 75. That will leave the group with a familiar succession problem. The chairman has always advocated that the best person should get his job. He says "theoretically" his successor does not have even to be an Indian.

The answer probably lies in "reconstructing" the Tata family. The largest shareholder in Tata Group is another Parsee businessman Pallonji Shapoorji Mistry, whose 18% stake is worth £5bn. His son-in-law, Noel, is also Ratan Tata's half brother.

Raju Narisetti, managing editor of business newspaper Mint, says there is only one choice for the Tatas - another Tata.

"The Tatas won't hand over the keys to someone they don't trust. Noel already runs their retail business and if I were a betting man the odds would be extremely good on him taking over from Ratan."

So in short - this man is not Indian just adopted so yet again Indian gets results by default lol

Those are my words not the from the Daily Mail... sorry you had to go so low.

lol if you say so rofl

Dream the dream lol

Regardless of the industry involved I see the employees' attitude as a healthy work attitude, weekends are for family after work hours are for rest, and that's that, and the law in Western countries applies that, apart from some selected professions, while here in the Gulf and in most of the developing world including India, they do not not need employees they need slaves, ranging from slaves with a PhD to slaves who are willing to work in the soaring heat during summer to pay off the expenses for their travel to Doha by some rip off agency.

lol... love it when saying "patronising lying sod has a shyte work ethic and so does the people he employed" the link from Dailymail is used when on several occasions it has been said that it is bogus with no credibility of its own. BTW this patronising lying sod is also member of British Prime Minister David Cameron's business advisory group and was the only person outside the government to have had two private meetings with the British PM during his first three months in office.

this 'patronizing lying sod' heads one of the biggest Corporations on the PLANET...if he could buy ailing,bankrupt Jaguar & Land Rover & turn them back into profit making companies in a matter of a few years,he must have a work ethic that's better than a LOT of people eh?!...

Well cabbage you really seem to be affected by what this guy had to say and generally what he said was very true and its much more clearer out here in this parts too, where some of this guys try to show they know it all and think they are more smarter then the others

Spoke too soon lol

www.dailymail.co.uk/.../British-bosses-lazy-After-Indian-tycoon-attacks-UK- work-ethic-OWN-bosses-fail-test.html

Even if this link does not work - it can be proved that this patronising lying sod has a shyte work ethic and so does the people he employed.

Who is to be believed :o)

A press release from the Tata group said: “We would like to convey our disappointment at the attempt to sensationalise and replay conversations out of context. The news item is misleading and mischievous.”

Well,there's a reason why Britain's biggest car manufacturers are now in Indian hands!...this shouldn't have come as that much of a surprise to Mr. Tata! :)...