is direct employment safe?

jlazzie
By jlazzie

hi everyone,

i'd like to get your opinion and/or comments...

is it safe to consider direct employment?

would appreciate your feedback...=)

By enelrad• 23 Aug 2010 07:03
Rating: 2/5
enelrad

If your cousin have the visa already from her present employer...my advice is to present a Standard Employment contract which i have a format here if you want i will send you the format on which you will attest or her employer in POLO. You can follow there the req. for direct hire.

By rodgie76• 5 Jul 2010 16:09
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rodgie76

Based on my experience, yes its quite safe than in agency..more cost beneficial between the employer and employee.....

By jlazzie• 3 Jul 2010 14:03
jlazzie

lp, it's true

By anonymous• 3 Jul 2010 13:48
anonymous

Are you sure, jlazzie? It could be important to know. Was it just luck?

By jlazzie• 3 Jul 2010 13:45
jlazzie

Lp, fortunately the contract i submitted in POEA was accepted even when it did not have authentication yet from qatar embassy

By anonymous• 3 Jul 2010 13:41
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anonymous

The "original copy" of the contract is not enough. It has to be authenticicated by the Philippine Embassy in Doha. But they only do that, if the contract is stamped by the Ministry of Labor, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Then you need a SPA (Special Power of Attorney) from a local agency, a Letter of Guarantee by the local agency, the registration of your hiring company, and the computer card of the agency. Then you will get the stamp from the Phil embassy.

By jlazzie• 3 Jul 2010 13:38
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jlazzie

for working visa, surely PDOS will be required in the airport and your friend can only attend PDOS if she was able to submit necessary docs in POEA. in my case, I submit medical certificate, passport with visa stamped already, visa notice, original employment contract. also there is another form given by POEA which should also be signed by the employer. the same can be sent via fax or email (scanned copy)

By jlazzie• 3 Jul 2010 13:35
Rating: 4/5
jlazzie

if she is holding a working visa, she really needs to undergo medical exam, visa stamping in Qatar Embassy in Phils, also in POEA she will be required to submit original copy of her contract.

By mjamille28• 3 Jul 2010 06:46
Rating: 4/5
mjamille28

if she's holding a work visa she needs to undergo medical examination in the Philippines. it's better to be sure she have all necessary documents, you never know what documents the officers in our airport require.. sometimes, they can be very strict..

By meryl317• 2 Jul 2010 12:05
meryl317

Yes,mj. work vsa. my worries are i cannot send her the contract yet. the company told me they wil prepare the contract wen she comes. please advice me what to do next

By jlazzie• 2 Jul 2010 07:47
jlazzie

is your pamangkin also do admin job in my current employer? i think i got her name already. thanks for the advices you gave me before. they truly helped.

By mjamille28• 1 Jul 2010 14:35
mjamille28

meryl, English only in the main forum.. what kind of visa does your friend have? if it's only visit visa, no need for medical check up, just authentication from the Embassy.

By meryl317• 1 Jul 2010 14:31
meryl317

ilazzie, ask lng sana. na email ko na sa frend ko ang work visa from the company..

I advised her to go to the nearest DHL office para sa authentication ng visa nya.. is it the right step? and can you please tell me what she needs to do next? is medical check-up required?

please do advice me, excited na yung frend ko na mkawork dito pero nalilito kami paano i-process ang papers nya sa pinas..

By jlazzie• 3 Jun 2010 11:37
jlazzie

i just saved my response once but it appeared several times...

By jlazzie• 3 Jun 2010 11:36
jlazzie

thanks, will do that...=)

By jlazzie• 3 Jun 2010 07:52
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jlazzie

yes, mj i already have the working visa though its valid for 3 months...probably since i need to pass their evaluation first....actually i applied thru their website, not thru an agency.

By jlazzie• 3 Jun 2010 07:51
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jlazzie

yes, mj i already have the working visa though its valid for 3 months...probably since i need to pass their evaluation first....actually i applied thru their website, not thru an agency.

By jlazzie• 3 Jun 2010 07:50
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jlazzie

yes, mj i already have the working visa though its valid for 3 months...probably since i need to pass their evaluation first....actually i applied thru their website, not thru an agency.

By jlazzie• 3 Jun 2010 07:49
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jlazzie

yes, mj i already have the working visa though its valid for 3 months...probably since i need to pass their evaluation first....actually i applied thru their website, not thru an agency.

By mjamille28• 23 May 2010 08:04
mjamille28

so by direct hire you meant, they will be sending you a working visa from here? correct me if i'm wrong..

By flor1212• 23 May 2010 08:00
flor1212

LOG ON TO QL! Lol! Good luck, make sure you have the OEC and that you will be a documented OFW!

By jlazzie• 23 May 2010 07:47
jlazzie

thank you so much mj. will you be kind to let me contact your cousin? i wish to at least ask some few questions...she/he can contact me at [email protected]..

would really appreciate it...

By mjamille28• 23 May 2010 07:21
mjamille28

maybe, just make sure you check the company that you will be working for...like i told you, my cousin used to work there but resigned, but she was not directly employed from the Phils...

By jlazzie• 23 May 2010 02:48
jlazzie

i was supposed to have the medical earlier than receviing the visa but unfortunately the clinic i went required me to present my visa first. hopefully my health did not go bad after undertaking annual physical exam for my current employer.

another thing, do you know of any qatar embassy accredited clinics are worth visiting? i have read in some posts that there are really those clinics who tend to harvest money from aspiring ofws. i wish to go to a clinic that can me fair result whether or not positive but at least it is true. wish ko lang...heheh..

sa mga taga jan baka meron sila mairecommend na clinics dito sa pinas...

By treysdad• 22 May 2010 18:23
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treysdad

with your Medical Certificate because it usually takes 3 days to a week for the results. They will only release the results once you have the visa. But it's better to start it so that if you have problems (like high sugar, high blood pressure, etc.) you can take corrective actions or take a second opinion and try to get better medical results and have "fit to work" evaluation.

By jlazzie• 22 May 2010 16:13
jlazzie

will it be safe if i go to poea only after visa stamping or should i go there even before that?

By jlazzie• 22 May 2010 16:09
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jlazzie

as per the procedures given to me, i will go to POEA only when visa has already been stamped by Qatar Embassy here in Phils...

here is what's written...

5.Once the passport with stamped visa was received, proceed to Philippine Overseas Employment Administration (POEA) for verification of the of employment contract and submit the following document for issuance of exit pass or Overseas Employment Certificate (OEC):

•Original employment contract

•Visa

•Medical Certificate

•PRC License

•Pre-departure orientation seminar certificate (to be scheduled and provided by POEA)

got very nice support from the employer, it was them who introduced QL to me. =)

By treysdad• 22 May 2010 14:35
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treysdad

Please go through the POEA procedure step by step because if the employer will give you a work visa (not business visa), then you will need to have an OEC as this will be check at the airport in the Philippines.

By jlazzie• 22 May 2010 14:05
jlazzie

i will do as you say...but the soon-to-be employer even sent me a lengthy step by step procedure to accomplish up to POEA...

treysdad hopefully, i wont need agency anymore. my papers are already with the employer for visa processing.hope it would be released this week.

jaryz, thanks for your comment...

By Jaryz• 22 May 2010 13:48
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Jaryz

and its safe..but as Mr. Treysdad sez,,,check first the company and then later there are still some papers to process from POEA...

Congratz and Goodluck! :)

By treysdad• 22 May 2010 13:11
Rating: 3/5
treysdad

I am a direct hire. What you need to do is check first the company hiring you.

For me it was easy because I knew some compatriots who worked for the company in its different branches here in the Gulf Region.

Also please check the process in POEA, I believe they have changed it last year. So the process I went through is not the same anymore where I had to go through each step myself. As far as I know it is not anymore "direct hire" or "named hire" per se as you will need to have your documents processed through an employment agency and not by yourself.

By jlazzie• 22 May 2010 11:40
jlazzie

commission it is...

good to know that the employer i'm considering is reputable in qatar...thanks...

By flanostu• 22 May 2010 11:24
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flanostu

recruitment agencies are only after their commissions so is generally better to go direct, unless the company is disreputable........in which case there are many here.

By jlazzie• 22 May 2010 11:05
jlazzie

yeah, surely documented OFW going thru the process until POEA PDOS as the end of it...

flor hi...

By jlazzie• 22 May 2010 11:03
Rating: 2/5
jlazzie

it's direct employment against employment via recruitment agency

By flor1212• 22 May 2010 10:55
Rating: 5/5
flor1212

but many try their luck. Many safenets were placed to make sure that an OFW will be safe once in foreign country. If you are a direct hire but goes with the official protocols (except you did not pass through an agency), it's okay because you will be a documented OFW. But if you are a direct hire and not an official OFW, I also discouraged it!

By Khawaga• 22 May 2010 10:54
Rating: 4/5
Khawaga

If you are asking about direct employment versus contract employment, I would prefer direct.

By anonymous• 22 May 2010 10:54
anonymous

Nope, I am an Indian.

By jlazzie• 22 May 2010 10:52
jlazzie

thanks whyteknight...that's good to hear..are you from phils?

By anonymous• 22 May 2010 10:47
Rating: 5/5
anonymous

I was directly employed, obviously I consider it safe.

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