What is the world without laws and lawyers?

his own kind in the religious forum. Notice how slyly he slips in the postulation that Islamic countries and laws are good and non-Islamic laws and countries are bad. It doesn't take much to figure out who country A is and who country B is.

New day; SOS.

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

Laws are good.

Lawyers are leeches.

I am just giving some examples and I think there is nothing wrong to take example from my belief.

Guys you have to be confident and as I say always you accept these examples or no.

Any how I want to sorry for disappointing some of you, please accept my appology, and I know that I had let many of you hate me.

without you as well..

why is it everytime khalid make a forum on any subject under the sun..it always go down to --RELIGION!!!!???????

nothing, im just a little bit...."CURIOUS"!

sorry to burst your bubble but they are, well at least most of them.. :P

Bit disappointing really. I was hoping for more of an argument then a cut and paste job.

Of course, Olive. The religious teaching group is probably too boring for him. He needs counter attacks to be happy, then he can unfold.

have you been attended to any court hearing?There you can find a lot of them,anyway many innocent people have been prison because they cannot afford to pay a lawyer to defend thier sides and many drug lords,rapist,killers are free and live as they want because they have the power to pay such lawyer.This is tha facts that happening in other countries.

"never ever give up"

Khalid do you just start these topics so you can preach Islam?

which islam tells the parents to teach their children

Just as a child should be taught ritual acts of worship, he should also be taught good habits and etiquettes until they become second nature to him.

The Prophet said: "The believers who have the most perfect faith are those who have the best manners." [Abu Daawood]

Good manners are an acquired trait that must be adopted from a young age. Of such manners are the following:

Being respectful and dutiful to parents:

The first person from whom a child learns good manners is the father. If a child is raised in a good Islamic home, then it would be natural for him to treat his parents respectfully.

Allaah Says (what means): "And your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him. And that you be dutiful to your parents. If one of them or both of them reach old age in your life, never say 'uff’ (an expression of displeasure), nor shout at them but address them in terms of honour. And humble yourself to them out of mercy and say, 'My Lord! Bestow on them Your Mercy as they did bring me up when I was small.'" [Quran, 17:23,24]

Maintaining good relations with relatives:

Sound cultivation also stipulates teaching children to maintain good relations with their relatives.

Allaah Says (what means): ''Worship Allaah and associate none with Him in worship, and do good to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, the needy, the neighbor who is near of kin, the neighbor who is a stranger, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (you meet), and those (slaves) whom your right hands possess. Verily, Allaah does not like such as are proud and boastful. " [Quran, 4:36]

The fulfillment of this Divine command can be accomplished only by sound cultivation which makes them grow attached to their relatives out of obedience to Allaah.

Since relatives are an extension of the family, then strengthening ties with them strengthens the whole family and it is like strengthening the whole community and this reflects an Islamic community that enjoys a cohesive structure. The Prophet said: "The example of the believers in their reciprocal love and mercy is like a human body, when one of its organs suffers, the rest of the body remains awake and suffers fever." [Muslim]

Inculcating brotherly love:

Brotherly love and believers' solidarity must be embedded in children's minds and that the believers are brothers-in-faith. For example to follow the pious predecessors, the Muhajireen and the Ansaar whose brotherly love and altruism Allaah commands in His Book.

Giving a friendly gesture or a happy greeting to Muslim brothers generates friendliness in their hearts and, strengthens the love among the believers. This indeed is a fine trait, which is instructed by Allaah, the Exalted. He describes the believers by saying (what means): "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allaah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves…" [Quran, 48:29]

Allaah also addressed His Messenger saying (what means): "Had you been severe and harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about you…" [Quran, 3:159]

Guarding the tongue:

Giving a good word is a type of remembrance of Allaah, telling the truth, guarding one's own tongue against slandering other Muslims are good deeds. The best Muslim, according to the Prophet is the one from whose tongue the Muslims feel safe.

Parents should make their children aware of the gravity of abusing others with their tongue and of the fact that the tongue is a double-sided and dangerous weapon. Therefore, they should be warned in particular against abusing it.

· Warning children against backbiting and slandering:

Children should be taught that backbiting is speaking slanderously about an absent person. The Prophet said: "Do you know what back biting is?” They (companions) said: "Allaah and His Messenger know best." He said: "It is to attribute to your brother what he dislikes." He was asked: "What do you think if what I say about my brother is true?" He said: "If what you attribute to him is true, then you have backbitten him, and if it is not true, then you have lied about him." [Muslim]

While talebearing is to circulate slanderous rumors between two persons to damage or sever the ties between them. The Prophet said: "Talebearer will not be admitted to Paradise." [Muslim]

Deriding people in their presence by making negative facial expressions or by hand gestures while they are unaware is also forbidden in Islam.

· Warning children against lying:

Children must be taught to tell the truth and to keep away from lying, which is the most horrible habit. The Prophet said: "There are four traits whoever possesses them is a sheer hypocrite, and he who possesses one of them, possesses a trait of hypocrisy unless he quits it. They are: when he speaks, he lies; and when he enters into an agreement, he acts unfaithfully; when he promises, he breaches his promise; and when he litigates, he behaves treacherously. While the liar receives the anger of Allaah on the Day of Resurrection." [Al-Bukhaari]

Parents should not take this evil habit lightly, or consider it funny when their children tell lies because later on, it becomes easy for them to lie without any compunction.

· Abusing others:

Among the worst of manners is reviling people and swearing at them. If this bad habit is not redressed while the child is growing up, it becomes hard for him to avoid it later on.

Islam enjoins guarding the tongues. The Prophet said: "He who guarantees, what is in between his jaws (tongue), and what is in between his thighs (private parts), I guarantee Paradise for him." [Al-Bukhaari]

This means guarding one's own tongue against uttering anything that displeases Allaah, and guarding one's own private parts against committing illicit acts or fornication.

source:

http://www.islamweb.net/ver2%20/archive/article.php?lang=E&id=135805

Then you quickly be out of business, khalid. Only gangsters need lawyers!

No I do not believe that lawyer is the biggest liar.

If I was a lawyer I will never ever defend or accept some one who is a drug dealer for example.

khalid said...Can you imagine the world with out lawyers and laws?

khalid would you believe that lawyer are the best liar?

"never ever give up"

I didn't see any facts in the links, just explanations of Islamic teachings.....

Facts? You mean opinion.

you can go and see the link before judging.

We must speak by facts.

I am a Muslim (Believe in God, the massengers, the day of Judgement, the angels, the holy books such as Quran and bible, and fait (distiny))

Olive I have concluded the following:

1. You are not a believer and for me a non believer is person who do not knows what is good or what is bad.

Some of non believers may know what is good or what is bad.

For example there are many good things which our prophet Mohammed PBUH said and some these are:

• Eloquence

• No Envy

• Experience

• Forgiveness

• Gentleness

• God

• God's Forgiveness

• God's Kindness

• Good Works

• Heart

• Heaven and Hell

• Hospitality

• Humility

• Islam

• Jihad

• Kindness

• The Kuran

• Labor

I have removed the sayings and put only the high light because if I put the sayings it will be very long post and here is the web site which explains the sayings of the above points

http://www.twf.org/Sayings/Sayings3.html

"Law maker are law breaker"..look what happen to philippines...

"never ever give up"

I have completely different values, and I only list them here without comments:

women

cars

guitars

horses

women

cars

music

women

cars

ocean

women

cars

whiskey

women

cars

freedom.

"envy" is a good thing?

Thanks for proving my point Khalid.

That we know of.

Then Khalid is something like a "Hardliner" or a "Fundamentalist". Thank God he's not yet a "Militant."

Khalid is trying to convince himself that there is a defined set of moral values that every single person in the world must share or be persecuted for not sharing. He doesn't seem to quite grasp that morals & values are defined by culture and that while some cultures may share common ancestry they've all evolved to value different things, and in this day with so many people exposed to so many cultures, no two people value the same thing.

If he's weak, he's not qualified. What a nonsense this guy is uttering.

What values Khalid? Who defines what are and are not good values?

I will start:

# The parents must educate their sons and daughters all the good values.

# The weak person must have his rights to work according to his qualification.

we have the same opinion lobot...

progress

a law isnt meant to be. to the extent that they can be broken, they are not laws

Law are made by man, can be manipulated and change by man. Not necessary followed. The traffic laws in Qatar for instance.

Without laws we would live in fear. The biggest, strongest, or most powerful person or group of people would be in control of our society.

without laws kids will probably become more violent

more murders will happen across the world and more drug use and other things.

Good laws keep us safe and healthy. They protect all of the citizens in our community.

its good that we have laws protecting us :)

i really have different view about this:

the laws and the lawyers are for the outlaws only. when a man is not violating anything against the nature we will never mind the law and order because we are part of the order.

in effect, world without laws and lawyers is a place where everybody is lawful.

progress

Law makes us differentiate right from wrong, good from bad, rational from irrational. but lawyers doesnt always represent them as it is. So for me Law is important, but lawyers...im not sure..

I definitely would feel much better without the lawyers... they just p**s me off...

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One life to live, live it to the fullest.

Do you want to know what laws are? They are a protection mechanism for the ruling classes.

Only if those laws are unchangeable.

The world with laws is also a chaos, olive.

But yes I do essentially agree with you, a world without laws would be chaos.

Ok.....I really think you need to get out more Khalid. In many countries health & education of children are equal parts the responsibility of the parents AND the government. In cases where the parents are un-fit to care for their children, the government must step in and the government must ensure schools are up to standards. Also in some countries marriage doesn't require a certificate, so marriage is based on how long a couple can be proven to have been co-habitating.