Can a westerner find love in Qatar?
I have been here over a year and have dated some pretty fine women in Qatar, but love...that seems to be a non possibility. I mean, I am open to it, but it seems that this is not a place for it. This place is for making money or having fun, I was once told. Before I brushed it off, but now I am starting to believe it. It is not just me saying this. There are many guys out here that I have talked with that are having the same issues. What is the deal Qatar? Is there no possibility for true love out here? Or should I keep playing the field and making that money?
dude , r u an apple ? ur talking abut love not a job,ur complaning abut the country like that u have degree of M.I.T and u got no job , well stupid post if u ask me
The biggest problem would be where to go to meet -- nightclubs are not really the best place to get to know someone but there doesn't seem to be any alternative. There are lots of European women of all ages looking for the right man but finding it difficult to meet. Perhaps some dating agency should be set up!!!
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Get yourself a dog......Sex no bar!
& most important size doesn't really matter!
What else can you ask for?
Love is in Qatar too.. why not? lol.
Is good to try in Qatar living cuz there are girls special in in QL search for men to make dates only and to explore different nationalities since they will have this chance no where els Qatar ...;)
Al-Cupid may fire his arrow at you any day. Be prepared :O)
So let me get this straight there is a chance to find love, though it may be slim. The fact is that if you want love out here or anywhere you have to be patient. Love will find you and when it does numbers won't matter. Whether a laborer, housemaid, Expatriate, American, Qatari, Phillipino, or Kenyan. For those that Love has found "Cheers! and Well wishes!", For those(including myself) that are still looking "Be patient and mindful that love has it's own time and figures. And when it chooses you be ready to have you view change 180 degrees!"
1 housmaid: 59 labor
1 woman:23 man
So have you guys arrived at a agreeable Ratio?
OFCOURSE THERE IS TRUE LOVE, BUT REAL HARD TO FIND, I M HERE :))) AVAILABLE
the housmaids opportionities.
Anyway, this is not the topic. The topic is the ratio here in Qatar is not better than 1 woman:5 men :)
Nobody is doubting that they are human warayko, what we're saying is that their opportunities are limited.
Nobody is doubting that they are human warayko, what we're saying is that their opportunities are limited.
We have here at work plenty of office and kitchen boys and I have been supervising hundreds of them during the Asian Games 2006 and I have dealed with them until now due to the nature of my father and my own business and so, I do confirm that they are men just like us, have the same feelings and all, and they keep hanging out whenever they can, but ofcourse they dont have the self confidence to date with non housmaid women unless they show them an interest. I don't deal with them hard all the time and I joke with them from time to time and talk to them about thier personal lifes, so I know that yes, they are humans and have same feeling as any other man.
The only difference could be that they are not educated.
These labourers usually have one day off. so they get out of their normal sorroundings and try to enjoy themselves. i doubt whether they have the means to meet or date ladies..
They generally are only allowed out on Friday's and even then they don't have the income to do what needs to be done to woo a woman. They can't afford dinners, flowers, etc.
than me and many other hard working men here in Qatar who forget themself at work and business
not all. Most of them still have feelings and needs and they keep roaming outside, especially in weekends. The housmaids actually are the ones who are prisioned here in this country
Of course they're humans BUT because of the nature of their work, ie: most of them are confined to the work place and labor camps, they aren't out "playing the field" so to speak. So they don't count as competition.
They are not men? They don't need what men need?
in one European country, I was wondering where their men are???Wherever I go, I see women. In Groceries, banks, ministries, universities, restaurants...Everywhere!. The majority were women. I asked some citizens about that, and they said women are much more than men here and men usually go abroad to work, or work in other neighboring small villages. I have never courted a woman there for almost 7 yrs. They are the ones who court me:)
Yes, but who's to say those housemaids aren't in the dating pool? Lots of the housemaids here get up to some hanky panky.
I'm not arguing that there are less women then men, that's obvious, I'm just saying the ratio is not as bad as people think.
and his family members are 20 only
But might be so unlucky back home:)
I would say that there are 150 000 housmaid in Qatar
I would say that it's probably close to 1 million for labours. There's over 500 000 in Ras Laffan alone.
How about this for example: http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story_s.asp?StoryId=1093268965
"The data also shows that the number of males in Qatar is 1,247,644 while the female population is 349.908
Now dont tell me that 1 million are labours.
I bet on that out of the 349.908, there are 150.000 married/non married Qatari and ofcourse it is almost impossible to date with them. Because of Culture and Religion...etc
how much women left now? 199.908. Out of this, I bet on that there are not less than 50 000 housmaid.
So now 149,908 left. Half of them are kids and over 60 yrs old women. So now, 74,945.
lets say only third of them are married!, so 49,963 single woman
49,963-olive- 49,962 single woman and 1.247,644 man (married/non married).
No matter if you deduct the labours or not, the ratio will still be 1 woman:20 man
most of labours are married also:)
Ok, i will search for proves for you. Give me 10 minutes
Also judging from the number of "illicit" relationships between housemaids and drivers reported in the papers, you can't take the housemaids out of the picture. LOL
The vast majority of housemaids are married, so they aren't eligible for the single ladies to single men comparison.
Each Qatari family have 1-10 housmaid, did you deduct that from the very little number of women here same as when you deducted the number of labors?:)
Warayko, those statistics also don't take into consideration where the men work. I would argue at least 60% of those men live in labour camps and are in no way able to meet/flirt/date women as they never see them. When you take that into consideration the number of single women to the number of single men evens out a bit more...still not half and half by any stretch though.
I read in a newspaper weeks ago about the latest statistics of population in Qatar. The shocking fact was Men are almost 5 times more (if not more, as far as i remember)than women.
Besides, the figures did not state the number of Qataris and housmaids and married women out of the overall number of women in Qatar.
So, lets say single men are 12 times more than Single Women in Qatar. That means if you need one year to find your correct woman in some other country, you will need 12 years here.
Also, don't forget the government conservative stricked rules, so apparently, you need about 15 years to find your correct woman, unless you are the luckiest on earth and you will find her tonight:)
XENA sayz
"I laughed at him when he proposed.... didn't deter him, he's still trying:-) I am still not biting...."
That would be an awful feeling if you did bite!!ouch!!!
LOLLLL! Iv had a virtual crush on britexpat since forever, he knows this and so does his wifey. But no, as far as dating the man *sigh* life just isn't fair. ;)
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LOL Brit. Are you and Labda dating? I think Mrs. BritExpat might have something to say about that!
Didn't mention the Kenyan woman. Are you two dating now?
LOL Britexpat
You have valid points and you should listen to yourself.
As you noticed, this is not a normal balanced society.
Some profiles have more chances of finding their loved ones here, but western educated guys looking for girls with similar backgrounds, will experience difficulties!
LA sure is a very shallow city but women are independent, educated and socialize. Brazil, well... no need for introductions!
You'll have better chances in a western(ized) society!
I can see that you go for the Tom Jones type. But that's not unusual!
Not offended in the least... but Pierce Brosnan? Naaaa... he reminds me of the Hoff!:) lol
...if you're from Dreamland then you are the man of my dreams....
...listen to the sound of silence....
Jude Law must be hot to some woman, but I just don't see the appeal:-)
Now Pierce Brosnan is a totally different story;-P
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They fool you., too. Ha, ha, ha.
im sick of games.been fooled twice.better watch movie.:)
love happens when and where you least expect it'.:)
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u guys must be out of ure mind to promot such treads .. a wacko guy claiming to have been allround the world but hasnt found his soulmate..so gals PM him..who knows it could be ure lucky day
sure you could find it but the love here is very hot and spicy
Lol.. ok.. point taken, but he IS Jude Law-
Ýou see, not a hope of finding love in Qatar;)
just keep going make money here.. and not only westerns looking for love ,everybody looking for that but i think its very hard to find a genuine love here in qatar coz all of us just came here to work and to make money..well u are lucky if u found a real love here in qatar.. goodluck to u
and I am 100% sure you are worthy of someone so much better than him:-)
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I know, Xena, but looking that good I could probably excuse him......
Oh dear, does that make me shallow.?;)
i dont think that u are looking for love ...or u will find it especially here.. all qatar women i met are looking for love and someone to get married ..even western or especially western !!
"And all the seemingly appropriate men know that they can jump into bed with a prostitute so why would they bother to commit?" category.... if the tabloids are anything to go by;-)
In the words of the people, QS... Inshallah;-P
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And all the seemingly appropriate men know that they can jump into bed with a prostitute so why would they bother to commit? (Either that or they become SO needy it's like having another child:)
Oh, Jude Law, where are you? I thought you'd have come for me by now?
QS If you take out all the jerks then the ratio will become 0:100. It's a man's birth right to be a jerk..
partners -- considering culture, religion, economics and education levels -- it is quite different.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Again, well said.
I'm good thanks.. still working away out here in the desert! Hope all's good:)
rheeza, I kind of disagree with your ratio. Even if you counted all construction workers, tea-boys and cleaner in Qatar, the ration still would be somewhere 75% men:25% women. If you took out all hard working poor miserable guys (I am not sarcastic, I am really sorry for them), the ration easily becomes 50:50. If you took out all men-jerks here (and again I am seriously), you will find 1 nice guy:2 nice girls ratio.
that's why olive had to date bunch of loosers before she met a nice guy.. that's why xena is still on her way to her love...
trust me, there are plenty of single nice girls in qatar, who dreams to met their "half" yet..
FranElizabeth, how are you darling? long time..:)
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it looks like, i have booked the tickets to your wedding :):)
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forget it.. let love find you, instead
"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak."
Only not sure about 'LOVE'finding me.. more attention of the sex starved, making money and having a good time' variety...
No thanks, I already have everything I need:)
I don't have a problem with that.. i find love everywhere.. no, LOVE finds me...
and by the way, why do you think that in qatar to pick up a woman should be easier than in LA or in brazil?
weird assumption. qatar is a muslim country, a lot of girls follow islam and are not as easy as brazilians...
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Even Indians can find love here by the way. I found that out very recently..
people not know sinhala word ... don't use it ..... western crow not target .... target different.
DROP THE SELF IMPROVEMENT BOOKS AND GET A HAIR CUT.
oyange i like ur id, no using any name, let us wa8 for other simhas. okkama can u chage ur id? .... western said sorry..... so change .... make new..... u have time till nov 20.... real game starts.
am saying I am 60? You know very well I am over 100.... remember how kind you were to help me across the street at the last coffee meet;-)
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eastern simhas find qatar gr8, romantic like dubai
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Well I would say that he's too young to know what he wants but my guys only 2 years older. Lol and I learned my lesson about thinking he's too young for anything. 9 times out of 10 I'm the immature one. Lol
why u wanna say here that ur 60 year old ? :P
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family that would only let him marry from his community and secondly he is still a student.
I am not about to mess up his chances in life nor make bad relations with his family... but as a young guy, he sees that anything can be done and the world conquered... I however, am way more practical...
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Lol. Well there's a big difference between 4 years and 13! I wouldn't date someone 13 years younger either...they'd be under 18! Lol
It will find you and anyways most of the men in qatar have only one thing on their brain... and that is why they dont find love. Most of them dont know how to build a meaningful relationship.
there is a huge gap between where you are in terms of career development (if career is important to you). I find myself a lot farther along in my career than most younger men but also my career lacks flexibility. I don't want to be supporting a younger man, nor do I want a long distance relationship because careers take us to different places.
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Did I mention I know a lady from Kenya who is fun to be with ???
I laughed at him when he proposed.... didn't deter him, he's still trying:-) I am still not biting....
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Lol. I mean he was younger than me and I assumed he was just looking for fun. Turns out I was wrong!
Lol. I mean he was younger than me and I assumed he was just looking for fun. Turns out I was wrong!
I mean the part where you thought he'd be the last person you'd ever marry....
Yes, I know, always the last place you'd expect to find them... actually, I have given up, ages ago... I just go on dates now and not bother to follow up... don't have time for anything permanent... prefer to spend time with my dogs and at the shelter - its more fulfilling:-)
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The absolute last place you look xena. Honestly I never believed people when they said if you stop looking that's when you'll find them, but in my case it's true. He was the last person I ever thought i'd marry when I met him!
and probably dated most of the losers you did;-P
Still waiting for my prince charming... probably looking in the wrong places... can you give me a any tips where I might find him Olive;-)
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Lol labda. Nope my future hubby is one of a kind. But if you come to the wedding his cousin will be there :).
Dreadz if you aren't willing to wait then I guess your out of luck. But then again I to have been in relationships all over the world and while it may have taken 3 years here to find him it's taken 7 years overall and he is worth the wait ;)
(perhaps because of a combination of biology and the way we have been raised) ARE actually looking for commitment -- which is far more scarce among men.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Your points are valid, but don't you also think that because of their scarcity, the women use it to their advantage to "have a good time" rather than look for commitment. ?
i am bastakiya person, romance is precious will be every where.
kompäniya komentuva. You guys not here.
Olive, does your hubby-to-be have a brother though??! I will NEVER tire of asking that. hahaha
And now I know the trick to finding my soul mate - date a lot of losers!! LOL
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Apparently, most people find their life partners in the workplace, if they're aren't any good women at work, perhaps you need to look for another job - Good luck, I hope you find the woman of your dreams!
as of my mare observation the population of man are 85% and 15% are woman. i think if u will truly find and search for it there might be a luck. Start now. Gud luck!
have permission. If you are a Muslim marrying another Muslim (or in the case of a man, marrying a Muslim, Christian or Jew) you can marry in the Shariah here.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
as of my mare observation the population of man are 85% and 15% are woman. i think if u will truly find and search for it there might be a luck. Start now. Gud luck!
Pajju! Frianca??? La Faransiya?? But anyway, the french won't have her... :P
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PM said "... I find a lot of men complain about not finding a serious relationship here citing the fact that there are so few women to all the available men; but basically most are looking for excuse and not working on self-improvement..."
Precisely.
Dreadz said, "This place is for making money or having fun.."
- Not true.
"Or should I keep playing the field and making that money?"
- But that is what many or most of the guys here are doing anyway. Very few singles with character.
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The Cookie Monster said it.
You have to approval from the government to get married out here? Why is that?
The French would never have me! :-P
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
PM walla ana thought frianca :)
Ana Amreekia :-P
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
i find my true love here, after a years waiting for the approval from the gov. finally... we got married and now we are building our own family...i believe in destiny.
r u westerner ? :P
this is just a sand filled place, no 1 like 2 be here, only for money peple come here. romance no way
But seriously, what you are describing is typical for men your age. You are ready to settle and it doesn't always come easily. Finding the right emotional and intellectual connection can be very difficult. But I really don't think that it is a case of being here in Qatar. Start out with making female friends who share your interests. Then your circle will widen through them.
Oh and one last thing, tell me where all these men are in Doha.... :-P
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Trust me I am a good man working on being great! I have a great job, good intelligence, great investments, very athletic, 28, long hair, a little modeling, play guitar, speak spanish, college degreed, very articulate, very outgoing, promoter for events out here, have a lot of friends, read and practice the principles of best selling self improvement books, 6'1'', 202lbs/92kilos, 4% body fat, confident, strong, determined, and ambitious. I am self aware and humble. I have many friends out here that have similar qualities and yet we are finding women(that isn't the issue), but the in-depth connection is lacking. Trust me we are all over Doha and attending many different venues.
There is nothing rong with Qatar bt its rong with some of the idiots who only likes to play around...(flirterers)
Love is everywhere,, so whats wrong in Qatar?!
Iam sure u'l find one here too. :) all the best.
~noms~
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in situations where you are more inclined to find a serious partner. Generally, one is more inclined to find love when they engage in activities where they might meet someone who is inclined to share their values and interests. For some that will be religious activities and for others it is self-improvement activities or a social night life.
I find a lot of men complain about not finding a serious relationship here citing the fact that there are so few women to all the available men; but basically most are looking for excuse and not working on self-improvement. A good man will really almost never have a hard time finding a serious relationship with a good woman.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Whoah! 3 years???? I don't think I can be that patient. I mean I have dated women all over the world, but here it seems to be more superficial than anywhere else that I have been. Even in Brazil! Not looking for love, but found it quickly and it was not superficial at all...well at first, but neither of us were ready to settle down, but we did. C'mon, in LA (Los Angeles) I dated a girl for a bit and fell in love. Trust me LA is very superficial and shallow. Yet I did it sooner than here. Been here a year. Not quite looking for love, but to not even have a inkling of it is quite disturbing.
I met HIM here LOL. I was here for 3 years before I met him and dated a lot of losers, he was here for 9 before he met me. I think the odds are stacked, especially if you're a guy, but it is possible. In fact among my group of friends 4 of us will be getting married in the next year, and 3 of us have met our partners here in Doha.
it is possible but you need patience........
@ Olive: Did you meet her here or did you know her from before? Better yet, how long were you here before you found her?
@ Babujee: In love with a woman.
@ Britexpat: That is what I have been hearing. It almost sounds like that is the ultimate answer here. I guess that I will might cut my time short here and move on after another year. After awhile of being a starting player in the game, you get tired of it and want to hang up your sneakers.
Keep playing the field and making the money.. Most of the "love" here is transitory :O(
yes, but love with what..
I did. Getting married in May. :)
Apparently yes, you can find love here.