to those who are interested, Doha clinic hospital has offered a free hepatitis c test from 8am-12nn, and 4pm-8pm at the out-patient department, ground floor. Just bring your residence ID card. This offer ends on october 31. It never hurts to be sure when it comes to health. see you there......
i have undergone treatment and failed 3x so yah i was deemed uncurable, sometimes you just want to give up but just have to accept it, i guess... I found Quatar living very intriguing but realize i can never visit, which is fine, Canada is still pretty cool...False hope sucks, ...shit happens and must move on but just think its a bummer to be discrimated against and i can't visit there... and how i got it tatoo?, and snorted a bit of coke in college?, i don't know... But to be honest i wish i never took the test, my life would of played out differently. I would of had a family, but knowing what i know now about me...i choose not to have kids...i wish i never took a the test, ignorance is bliss!
know what you are talking about "pharma". Until you do, you really should stop making statements that are not backed up by the medical evidence. I can only assume you are referring to yourself when you say "Mr. know it all" but I would call you "Mr. Thinks he knows it all" :-P
Guys, you know what ? This is what you get when you face unprofessional " Mr know it all " and followers.
Cure rate by standard medical definition in all respectable trials means undetectable level of virus in your blood, cure rate reaches 65% in certain trials with hepatitis C and sometimes 90% in other trials.( Or else how do you think infected people pass the lab tests ? )
I hope this ends it , I am sorry I thought you were up to this conversation, my mistake.
"Early treatment of acute hepatitis C infection may lead to cure"
"Study Suggests Cure for Hepatitis C"
"Cure rates becoming the norm for patients with hepatitis C: Adding statins to usual therapy may lead to even greater treatment success, according to studies presented at Digestive Diseases Week 2007"
I hope people will take their questions to a doctor and not an online pharmacist who promises a cure! rofl
" also am very current on care and treatment for HCV -- and my understanding is that there is no cure. The best one can hope for is to improve their general health and avoid anything that would hasten the deterioration of their liver function.
You, on the other hand ignorantly stated: "Of course there is a cure for HCV if detected in its early stages" and this is patently false. So I accept your apology and appreciate you setting the record straight that you do not know what you are talking about.
PM and followers, I noticed that you swallowed your words about deporting people out of Qatar if tested positive, that is nice for a start, apology accepted. And I noticed also that you shifted the conversation towards curing or not curing, that is also a nice maneuver : shift the topic into a debatable area however it was not the initial topic, so please read this and e-mail the doctors who ran these trials to spare us the headache you caused :
Ah dear PM, yet again i see the quickness in your response. too quick to realize that my thanks was for encouraging sick people to visit the doctors and for the valid information that residents do not get deported.
my teachers barely knew my name in science classes, so i wouldnt want to make a fool of myself by supporting or opposing anyone giving out atleast biological information.
where did you get the info that HCV can be cured? HCV is not curable, once you have it it's there for the rest of your life, even if it is dected at an early stage. i think hepa A is curable but not hepa C. i think you're the one preaching false prophecies here and BTW you're not a doctor!
with specific genotypes but it is not the cure-all for early detection you suggest. Please read the following before YOU give out false information, paying particular attention to the estimate of sustained virological response to the treatment:
http://www.gastrohep.com/news/news.asp?id=106805
If you can post a study backing up what you are saying "Mr. Pharma" then I would really appreciate it.
BTW, I would encourage anybody with HCV to seek medical attention but until Qatar completely "decriminalizes" it, it will be hard to get them too. The picture you are painting here -- while admirable from the perspective of a pharmacist -- is not 100% accurate.
OMG people, why can't you just say " I don't know" ??
I wonder PM, are you a Gastroenterologist or Endocrinologist ? I doubt, because you would have heard about interferon . Are you a physician ? I doubt coz you would've heard about various anti viral medications. Are you in the medical field at all ? I also doubt coz you would've known the difference between 'treat" , "cure" and "cure upon early detection" . Are you aware of what you are saying at all ? I strongly doubt coz you would 've understood the difference between "seeking residency" , "overseas newly hired employees " and an "actual resident" . The funniest part is that you are asking a helthcare provider to provide a link to support a fact known more than 10 years back on interferon and anti viral medications while you should provide the link for scaring poor people to seek help while they can!!!
You are right ExLegend, those lame advisers can get to your nerves, especially when you see those poor sick patients believing them.
Pharma thanks for the information. by the way it is true that if you already are a resident of Qatar, then you are allowed to seek treatment and not deported.
avoid getting misguided by lame advisers and only gather information from qualified sources. This site indeed is very informative but all that glitters is not gold.
Stone....to the best of my knowledge, medical check is not required at the time of RP/work visa renewel. Its done once at the time of getting an RP for the first time.
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I probably have more education than your 5 years of pharmacy school in Egypt :-P
I also am very current on care and treatment for HCV -- and my understanding is that there is no cure. The best one can hope for is to improve their general health and avoid anything that would hasten the deterioration of their liver function.
I am aware that Egypt has a disproportionately high number of HCV cases and that your doctors are experimenting with protocols in treating HCV but please provide a ink to back up your claim that it is curable; preferably one that is accepted in the international medical community.
For expatriates who already acquired residency in Qatar and been tested positive of TB and Hepatitis B/C, they will be provided treatment at Govt. hospitals/Health Centers but not to be deported, unless tested positive of AIDS. Btw, there's already drugs for Hepa-C treatment.
And medical test for Hepatitis is only tight for those working as medical and para-medical employees, primary school teachers, housemaids, and food handlers.
It is an incurable disease. What exactly are you dispensing to "treat" it?
And I am not spreading rumors. I am repeating the LAW as stated by the Qatar Foundation. Read this link from QF:
Immigration laws require that persons seeking residency in Qatar are screened
for tuberculosis, HIV and hepatitis B and C. Positive results will disqualify you or any of your family members from residing in Qatar. We advise that all family members are examined by their personal physician prior to your move, please note this will be at your expense. You may wish to consider arranging examinations prior to your acceptance of the job offer. It is important to note that, as part of the immigration process, Qatar’s immigration services will perform tests again after arrival and these will be considered the official test results.
Locally hired candidates are required to do a similar examination after obtaining
a letter from QF addressed to the Health Authority in Qatar.
The following medical examinations are required from all overseas newly
hired employees:
• Complete physical examination (including visual acuity and color vision)
• Urinalysis
• Chest X-Ray
• Blood test (Fasting Blood Sugar / Creatinine / Liver Function Test /
I've seen lot of ignorant replies, for ur info i see many expats coming to the hospital seeking treatment for this terrible disease, treatment costs thousands of riyals while if u r resident and have health card, u only pay 20% of the total cost.
So please guys,don't spread rumors, make sure of ur information first.
And for ur knowledge, residents are never deported for having it,they r given the chance to be treated.
But I know a lot of people carrying this disease (HBS & HCV) even before coming here, they under went the Medical Tests before the issuance of RP...and they were not diagnosed.....I dont know WHY?
---------------------------------------------------------Whenever I find the KEY to SUCCESS...Someone STEALS it.
Ka Pukhtoon ye no dalta daNgg warka: http://www.qatarliving.com/group/pukhtoon-in-qatar
for not granting RPs then it only makes sense that people will be afraid to even find out if they have that disease. They will believe ignorance is bliss. I would rather see Qatar "decriminalize" these medical conditions and instead focus on education, treatment and prevention.
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i have undergone treatment and failed 3x so yah i was deemed uncurable, sometimes you just want to give up but just have to accept it, i guess... I found Quatar living very intriguing but realize i can never visit, which is fine, Canada is still pretty cool...False hope sucks, ...shit happens and must move on but just think its a bummer to be discrimated against and i can't visit there... and how i got it tatoo?, and snorted a bit of coke in college?, i don't know... But to be honest i wish i never took the test, my life would of played out differently. I would of had a family, but knowing what i know now about me...i choose not to have kids...i wish i never took a the test, ignorance is bliss!
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/h/hepatitis_c/stats-country.htm
Salam
# 1 Japan: 1,160 deaths
# 2 Germany: 878 deaths
# 3 United States: 669 deaths
# 4 Spain: 594 deaths
# 5 Brazil: 477 deaths
# 6 Korea, South: 164 deaths
# 7 Egypt: 159 deaths
# 8 Austria: 157 deaths
# 9 Poland: 143 deaths
# 10 Mexico: 98 deaths
# 11 Israel: 97 deaths
# 12 Chile: 69 deaths
# 13 Netherlands: 44 deaths
# 14 Cuba: 41 deaths
# 15 Sweden: 35 deaths
# 16 Colombia: 31 deaths
# 17 Canada: 23 deaths
# 18 Venezuela: 20 deaths
= 19 Argentina: 19 deaths
= 19 New Zealand: 19 deaths
# 21 Kuwait: 18 deaths
= 22 Croatia: 14 deaths
= 22 Romania: 14 deaths
= 24 Hungary: 13 deaths
= 24 Lithuania: 13 deaths
# 26 Denmark: 10 deaths
= 27 Czech Republic: 9 deaths
= 27 Slovakia: 9 deaths
= 27 Finland: 9 deaths
# 30 Peru: 8 deaths
= 31 Slovenia: 6 deaths
= 31 Latvia: 6 deaths
= 31 Australia: 6 deaths
= 31 Puerto Rico: 6 deaths
= 35 Ecuador: 5 deaths
= 35 Malta: 5 deaths
= 35 South Africa: 5 deaths
= 38 Norway: 3 deaths
= 38 Nicaragua: 3 deaths
= 40 Qatar: 2 deaths
= 40 Luxembourg: 2 deaths
= 40 Uruguay: 2 deaths
= 40 Moldova: 2 deaths
= 40 United Kingdom: 2 deaths
= 40 Panama: 2 deaths
= 46 Georgia: 1 deaths
= 46 Bahamas, The: 1 deaths
= 46 Belize: 1 deaths
= 46 Kyrgyzstan: 1 deaths
= 46 Costa Rica: 1 deaths
= 46 El Salvador: 1 deaths
= 46 Dominican Republic: 1 deaths
= 46 Iceland: 1 deaths
= 46 Estonia: 1 deaths
= 46 Paraguay: 1 deaths
Total: 5,081 deaths
Salam
Ohh Handbays at dawn guys!
would you send me your private email.
thanks
loool hi mikey ............
Thanks for that guys... needed a little smile on a boring Tues afternoon ! ; )
LOL PM, you convinced me, now i'm an avid follower
know what you are talking about "pharma". Until you do, you really should stop making statements that are not backed up by the medical evidence. I can only assume you are referring to yourself when you say "Mr. know it all" but I would call you "Mr. Thinks he knows it all" :-P
Regards,
Dr. PM :-P
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Guys, you know what ? This is what you get when you face unprofessional " Mr know it all " and followers.
Cure rate by standard medical definition in all respectable trials means undetectable level of virus in your blood, cure rate reaches 65% in certain trials with hepatitis C and sometimes 90% in other trials.( Or else how do you think infected people pass the lab tests ? )
I hope this ends it , I am sorry I thought you were up to this conversation, my mistake.
Good day.
hehehe
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
i am not a follower of PM FYI ;p
your references only SUGGEST cure pharma1, that's it kalas!
"Early treatment of acute hepatitis C infection may lead to cure"
"Study Suggests Cure for Hepatitis C"
"Cure rates becoming the norm for patients with hepatitis C: Adding statins to usual therapy may lead to even greater treatment success, according to studies presented at Digestive Diseases Week 2007"
I hope people will take their questions to a doctor and not an online pharmacist who promises a cure! rofl
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
" also am very current on care and treatment for HCV -- and my understanding is that there is no cure. The best one can hope for is to improve their general health and avoid anything that would hasten the deterioration of their liver function.
You, on the other hand ignorantly stated: "Of course there is a cure for HCV if detected in its early stages" and this is patently false. So I accept your apology and appreciate you setting the record straight that you do not know what you are talking about.
lol
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
PM and followers, I noticed that you swallowed your words about deporting people out of Qatar if tested positive, that is nice for a start, apology accepted. And I noticed also that you shifted the conversation towards curing or not curing, that is also a nice maneuver : shift the topic into a debatable area however it was not the initial topic, so please read this and e-mail the doctors who ran these trials to spare us the headache you caused :
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC81686/
Hepatitis C ‘Cures’ Now Common ,
http://www.caromont.org/130701.cfm ,
http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2007/06/18/hlsc0618.htm ,
NEJM Study Points to New Era in Hepatitis C Treatment ,
New Treatment Combo Better Against Hepatitis C - Drugs.com MedNews
You said "there is no treatment for hepatitis C, it is incurable ", don't you really know the difference between both ? God you are funny !!!
Ah dear PM, yet again i see the quickness in your response. too quick to realize that my thanks was for encouraging sick people to visit the doctors and for the valid information that residents do not get deported.
my teachers barely knew my name in science classes, so i wouldnt want to make a fool of myself by supporting or opposing anyone giving out atleast biological information.
now Cheers!
exactly PM LOL!
I guess you don't care if the information is correct or not! lol
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
what makes it hillarious are the users who get high on it and claim expertise, say.. superior expertise... meaning... 'i know better' argument.
especially with false prophets, irritating and hilarious!
the age of information is sometimes hillarious.
PM,
becoz thats what they tell the less-educated ones what they are for which they are not!
Unfortunately, some less educated people confuse pharmacists with doctors. Seems some pharmacists have started to believe that, too. :-P
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
pharma1,
where did you get the info that HCV can be cured? HCV is not curable, once you have it it's there for the rest of your life, even if it is dected at an early stage. i think hepa A is curable but not hepa C. i think you're the one preaching false prophecies here and BTW you're not a doctor!
with specific genotypes but it is not the cure-all for early detection you suggest. Please read the following before YOU give out false information, paying particular attention to the estimate of sustained virological response to the treatment:
http://www.gastrohep.com/news/news.asp?id=106805
If you can post a study backing up what you are saying "Mr. Pharma" then I would really appreciate it.
BTW, I would encourage anybody with HCV to seek medical attention but until Qatar completely "decriminalizes" it, it will be hard to get them too. The picture you are painting here -- while admirable from the perspective of a pharmacist -- is not 100% accurate.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
OMG people, why can't you just say " I don't know" ??
I wonder PM, are you a Gastroenterologist or Endocrinologist ? I doubt, because you would have heard about interferon . Are you a physician ? I doubt coz you would've heard about various anti viral medications. Are you in the medical field at all ? I also doubt coz you would've known the difference between 'treat" , "cure" and "cure upon early detection" . Are you aware of what you are saying at all ? I strongly doubt coz you would 've understood the difference between "seeking residency" , "overseas newly hired employees " and an "actual resident" . The funniest part is that you are asking a helthcare provider to provide a link to support a fact known more than 10 years back on interferon and anti viral medications while you should provide the link for scaring poor people to seek help while they can!!!
You are right ExLegend, those lame advisers can get to your nerves, especially when you see those poor sick patients believing them.
BUT what?
i am willing to undergo for this lab test but....
Pharma thanks for the information. by the way it is true that if you already are a resident of Qatar, then you are allowed to seek treatment and not deported.
avoid getting misguided by lame advisers and only gather information from qualified sources. This site indeed is very informative but all that glitters is not gold.
But it is also required when you change sponsor.
Stone....to the best of my knowledge, medical check is not required at the time of RP/work visa renewel. Its done once at the time of getting an RP for the first time.
---------------------------------------------------------Whenever I find the KEY to SUCCESS...Someone STEALS it.
Ka Pukhtoon ye no dalta daNgg warka: http://www.qatarliving.com/group/pukhtoon-in-qatar
I probably have more education than your 5 years of pharmacy school in Egypt :-P
I also am very current on care and treatment for HCV -- and my understanding is that there is no cure. The best one can hope for is to improve their general health and avoid anything that would hasten the deterioration of their liver function.
I am aware that Egypt has a disproportionately high number of HCV cases and that your doctors are experimenting with protocols in treating HCV but please provide a ink to back up your claim that it is curable; preferably one that is accepted in the international medical community.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Better to know that u r sick and seek treatment than to stay sick without treatment...
Still the danger of being deported is there when the time comes for your work visa renewal where medical check is required.
For expatriates who already acquired residency in Qatar and been tested positive of TB and Hepatitis B/C, they will be provided treatment at Govt. hospitals/Health Centers but not to be deported, unless tested positive of AIDS. Btw, there's already drugs for Hepa-C treatment.
And medical test for Hepatitis is only tight for those working as medical and para-medical employees, primary school teachers, housemaids, and food handlers.
If u r not spreading rumors, then please read carefully what you post."People SEEKING residence" not ( RESIDENTS in Qatar)
AND since u r not a professional, u'd better read without commenting. Of course there is a cure for HCV if detected in its early stages.
And so also by spreading these rumors, u r just keeping away poor infected people from seeking treatment.
If u r not a specialist then don't comment.
Is it difficult in this part of the world to say i don't know or even say nothing instead of saying nonsense ?!!!!!!!!!
It is an incurable disease. What exactly are you dispensing to "treat" it?
And I am not spreading rumors. I am repeating the LAW as stated by the Qatar Foundation. Read this link from QF:
Immigration laws require that persons seeking residency in Qatar are screened
for tuberculosis, HIV and hepatitis B and C. Positive results will disqualify you or any of your family members from residing in Qatar. We advise that all family members are examined by their personal physician prior to your move, please note this will be at your expense. You may wish to consider arranging examinations prior to your acceptance of the job offer. It is important to note that, as part of the immigration process, Qatar’s immigration services will perform tests again after arrival and these will be considered the official test results.
Locally hired candidates are required to do a similar examination after obtaining
a letter from QF addressed to the Health Authority in Qatar.
The following medical examinations are required from all overseas newly
hired employees:
• Complete physical examination (including visual acuity and color vision)
• Urinalysis
• Chest X-Ray
• Blood test (Fasting Blood Sugar / Creatinine / Liver Function Test /
Cholesterol/CBC)
• VDR
• HIV Test
• Blood Group
• Hepatitis
http://www.qf.org.qa/files/About%20Qatar%20Foundation%20and%20Joining%20Qatar%20Foundation.pdf
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Hey guys,
Im a pharmacist in hamad hospital....
I've seen lot of ignorant replies, for ur info i see many expats coming to the hospital seeking treatment for this terrible disease, treatment costs thousands of riyals while if u r resident and have health card, u only pay 20% of the total cost.
So please guys,don't spread rumors, make sure of ur information first.
And for ur knowledge, residents are never deported for having it,they r given the chance to be treated.
PM!!! I agree.
But I know a lot of people carrying this disease (HBS & HCV) even before coming here, they under went the Medical Tests before the issuance of RP...and they were not diagnosed.....I dont know WHY?
---------------------------------------------------------Whenever I find the KEY to SUCCESS...Someone STEALS it.
Ka Pukhtoon ye no dalta daNgg warka: http://www.qatarliving.com/group/pukhtoon-in-qatar
maybe PM :)
some Egyptians who were not given RPs because of the HCV status and also know of deportations for the same.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
missX, expatriates are spared also
for not granting RPs then it only makes sense that people will be afraid to even find out if they have that disease. They will believe ignorance is bliss. I would rather see Qatar "decriminalize" these medical conditions and instead focus on education, treatment and prevention.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
No, not all of them can be. Only the expatriates....
PM, that's a case to case basis, not all can be deported
That's EXACTLY what I thought PM. lol sneaky.
I would think that the threat of losing one's livelihood is enough to make people hesitate to be tested.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Thanks... for the information.