The world's top universities

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Oh my EC universities. It's interesting to watch as that place starts to find it's feet and I'll furthermore be interested to see how things pan out in 10-20 years time with the quality of graduates they churn out.

Here's how I see things so far...

The facilities are top class, you couldn't really ask for anymore.

Student life appears to be fairly liberal compared to the rest of Qatar, which yet again is one concern people had dealt with.

Now the quality of the degree...I would disagree with those who consider a degree from a Qatar university equal to that of it's counterpart in the US. As it stands, they are borrowing the brand name, and like most things in life they will have to stand on their own merits. It's way too early to make any judgement as to how sucessful they are either in terms of research quality or education quality.

Lecturer wise, still way too early to judge, time will tell, although I am skeptical when I see people like J.Maas lecturing. When you have people who have been convicted of sexual harassment still working around teens/young adults you have to question the quality of the rest. http://www.law.cornell.edu/nyctap/I99_0157.htm

Anyway, I hope any doubts are unfounded and EC is able to prove itself as a wise investment for future graduates.

as an "unofficial" mouthpiece for the Qatari PR machine. I assume in the case of the QL PTB it is because this site being allowed to stay open provides some peoples bread and butter, which they feel would be jeopardized if they were critical of anything the government does here, however constructive the criticism. Look at the flack I got from Greeker by simply being honest and constructively critical of the DTFF -- which is STILL running WAY behind schedule and opens in 2 weeks. The thing is, when you speak about the problems of implementing all these wonderful, world class plans, everyone accuses you of hating Qatar and tells you you should leave.

Until they get rid of THIS attitude -- which btw, is mostly propped up by the expat population from the subcontinent who are most worried about losing their best employment opportunity -- they will not make real progress.

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

It's a bit more than that. Qatar has this pattern of bringing shiny things for showmanship trophies then stifling or suffocating them.

Only to retain the name or label, which is akin to keeping the shell while the content, much like Elvis, has left the building.....Menard comes to mind.

The Deans and the lecturers who left Education City most probably came in good faith and intention, with stars in their eyes and hopes for Qatar and found that it was nothing than a pipe dream made for the countries ego of 'I'

How wise any organization, establishment or country would be if they listened to these people and know why they want to leave, learning from them rather than recycling them just because money can afford it.

I will always sadly wonder why these Academics left Education City, while knowing that Qatar is the poorer for it. This means that Qatar's organizers will always be far from any credible Nobel prize.

Even the human rights committee in Qatar have become stooges, playing the part of a well oiled system extension and don't act in conjunction or follow the rules of the international Human rights head office. Files go missing and cases refused, with silly excuses that you are not eligible to place a claim.

I feel that this organization should have been lead by redible expatriates that come from fairer backgrounds that already have established human rights in their own countries.

I've noticed a great many threads here, which mimic the news papers, geared at emphasizing the hype of "the first time in the region" or "Qatar will do" or rather something to that effect describing Qatar as progressive.

However, the countries rush for this trophy like progress, they end up placing in charge those whom serve themselves; A detrimental move that undermines any progress or progressive investment they have or ever will make.

NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.

that are so common in Academia :-( I agree it's unfortunate.

I have heard that a number of Deans and faculty have served 5-10 years which is not bad considering I don't know if any of the universities offer tenure for the Qatar campus. If that is true, I think that should be rectified.

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

Wonder why the Deans keep leaving their Universities in Education City though?

Appears to look like Middle eastern intern deans are temporarily filling the void untill they find new ones hmmmm

I hear even a handfull of good lecturers are going aswell.

Pity...once the good stuff goes, whats left is the 'commercial type' then it's all down hill from there I suppose.

NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.

Thank God for that PM... then you will know that they have sold out....

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

and it had NOTHING to do with "managing ur life in the midst of partyying, drug abuse etc (other activities that goes on in college) ... necceasry to prepare ur self for the real world."

Students at EC get around just fine so you needn't worry about them. There are many working students who work on campus for pocket money and transportation. Also, enough students have cars and so if they don't they get rides. Believe me the EC students are EVERYWHERE. You probably are around them in the malls, restaurants, athletic events, and dance parties -- you just don't realize it.

It's true that no single university offers as much here as they do on the home campus. EC is growing and has made tremendous progress in 12 years. Currently, students can study Engineering (Chemical, Mechanical, Petroleum and Electrical), Medicine, Computer Science, Business, Design (Fashion, Graphic and Interior), Journalism, Media and Mass Communications, Political Science and International Relations. Next year, I have heard thats students will have the chance to study Fine Art (painting and printmaking). There is one Graduate program underway (in Design) and more in the works. These were all built from the ground up (no facilities, faculty, admin or students).

Not bad for 12 years, eh?

Show me one other place that has done the same thing. It is all because of the commitment of the Emir and Her Highness, who are willing to invest heavily in their country's future through education. I think THEY need to be nominated for a Nobel Prize! :-)

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

My University was first in the Europe for beer consumption! After I graduate, they start loosing points...

philippines universities are world class.

Drac

TOP 10: :)

1. Arizona State University

2. University of Southern California

3. Florida State University

4. University of Florida

5. Ole Miss

6. South Carolina

7. UCLA

8. Auburn University

9. University of Georgia

10. Louisiana State University

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Wherever the busiest plastic surgeons are...:P

Drac can you post a list of which universities have the most attractive women? Now that would be an interesting list. (will India come 163rd again....)

You're "open minded, bold and straight forward"!

I am sure you'll take the best decision!...

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...(for your son :P)

which university to Join in Qatar (QF) or goto US/UK/Canada to do my further studies in MBA?

I'm so glad, 2 of my country universities are on the top 200...

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Ladies..Ladies..please have mercy!

This thread it's about world's top universities.

If you like, I'll start with new thread named "Bashing Free".

Obviously, 00 doesn't know about NOT segregation on the Qatar Universities classes.

I think he's coming from Saudi Arabia.

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3,9 and 4,0 PM? Damn you got a big engine! Are you turbo too? :)

PM....he's all yours...Bon apetite! :D

NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.

uve interpreted my notion incorrectly I never sed that partying and having mass transportation has a link to education. I meant that managing ur life in the midst of partyying, drug abuse etc (other activities that goes on in college) is student life and this is necceasry to prepare ur self for the real world. Transportation is linked to student life too cuz how do u expect students without a car to get around the country?....or do u expect them to waste their money on taxi(which i hardly see in this country) or depend on friends who have a car?? or stay inside EC?? Never compared the quality of education only compared the student life which u obviously knoe its better in the main campus

what im saying is that students who come out of EC and the main campus are quite different (maybe some exceptions)even though they come out with the same credentials.

the universities in EC dont provide the same number of programs that r being provided in the main campus

if they dunt offer a no of programs at the undergrad level then theres not much interesting elective subjects for students to choose from.

1. QF provides lots of scholarship and loan money so that they have a complete socio-economic mix, as well as diverse cultures represented at EC.

2. Faculty are the same ones who teach on the home campuses, or if not they at least hold the same credentials that would allow them to teach on the home campuses. This is something they are very concerned about so they do not compromise. And students do mix with each other, regardless of culture, nationality, economic level, gender, religion and native language. You should go there and actually SEE what is going on before making foolish statements.

3. Many EC Graduates have gone on to attend Grad School in the UK and US. You can get these numbers from the different universities if you are interested.

4. The value of University education has nothing to do with partying or having mass transportation (you have some very strange ideas).

5. I have never had an employer ask about my GPA (and I had a 3.9 as an undergrad and a 4.0 as a grad)

6. EC students benefit from small class size at EC, but also have the opportunity to study on the home campuses (and many do) for the other experience you are advocating (anonymity, huge class size, etc.). Many take advantage of the opportunity.

7.. Before you criticize EC, you should work on your own education. Including basic grammar, syntax, critical thinking and argument skills.

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

00 Maybe you would care to elaborate on being "segregated indirectly"

And how would an international student on scholorship "feel the pinch where he wouldn't be able to mingle with students of other class"?

There are no 'caste' systems in play in the Universities and all social, economic classes mix equally there.

I've been there and seen it, maybe you should too.

NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.

oh man wat u on abt??? i meant high, low and middle class ppl in this country (not the class rooms dude) and segregated indirectly. So for example an interantional student on scholorship is gona feel the pinch where he wouldnt be able to mingle with students of other class as this is not the case in the US or the UK

00, seriously dude get your facts right before you plaster them all over the forum.

The classes are NOT segregated, where on earth did you get that idea from?

Males and females of all nationalities make up the student body.

Again go see for yourself!

The only thing that differs between locals and expats is the fee's. This is something I personally feel should be equal opportunity.

NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.

ok dali so you think students who graduate from CM qatar qualify for the graduate work visa in the USA??? even if ur facts r true i still dont think its worth paying USD42000 tution fees (which is the asame as in the USA) for students who come to qatar for education due to :

1-seperation of the public (i.e foreigners and the locals clearly segregating the classes). so i think b4 this country offers world class education to the kids here they should teach children about equal treatment.

2- Its very difficult to live here without a car as theres no means of public transport but a the buses which take the nepalis and other labourers around town.

plus the most important thing of all is that u have far less students in here compared to that of the US campus so theres not much mixture in different nationalites. A university deosnt jus mean great architecture and luxury with great professors....Theres much more to it i have no idea as to y these universities have to come land them selves in qatar.

I finished my undergraduate degree from University of nottongham where the campuses where located in 3 different locations. One in the UK one in malaysia and one in china. I've been to all 3 (one year in malaysia one year in china and one year in the UK) and trust me the UK campus was way better, with greater facilities and a good alumini connection plus good student body comparitively. the 3 compuses had equally qualifeid lecturers where they used to fly to china and malaysia for their sessions but quality of life apart from partying and althose (which u think were my personal values)was jus the best in the UK...i think malaysia and china are far more developed than qatar and if i find uk better than these countries in this case then im pretty sure u get my point...

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only 1 pakistani university on number 350..strange

You're right j3375, the UK only has 5 universities in the top 20, so there must be lots below that. (Probably the ones the International Indian students go to....)

Actually the top UK Universities have produced a lot of great Indian graduates through the years. Just off the top of my head Nehru and Gandhi spring to mind...

00 I have many qualms about how things are done in Qatar, but I most certainly have none whatsoever to the quality of these Academics. I will give credit when credit is long over due....

I strongly disagree and would like to inform you that the lecturers that QF have gone to great lengths to bring to the Qatari branches of the Education City Universities are some of the best most seasoned Academics and lecturers & are the finest intellectuals of the highest caliber in the teaching world.

In fact contrary to your claim, the same ones who teach here are the very same one who also lecture on the main campus in the States, I am not at liberty to give names here but why don't you go find out for yourself.

I really don't like how you simply put to print an assumption that grossly discredits something that you clearly have very little info about. Education city universities are the most superior educational system in the Gulf region, what you are doing is defaming this which again is so unfair on so many levels.

As for the party life you feel enriches YOUR personal beliefs and the drugs and girls you feel are character building 'student life culture and learning experience' well that just speaks fathoms about what you personally value, again I'm certain not many share your views in that aspect either.

NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.

nope never...A US employer wil not consider a student graduated from qatar...cuz the in the US the student life culture and learning experience is off the hook. and the lecturers are far more interlectual than the lecturers who are here. i knoe its the same name but come on have u seen carnegi mellon in the US?? and now compare that to qatar no offenese but its like comparing a palace to a house....social life plays a major part in matuarity and understanding capacity and like 60% f what u learn in uni is how u manage ur life alone in there with all these stuff around u, these include girls, partying drug abuse connecting with ppl etc etc...

MY friend, ranking means everything wen it comes to landing a crazy job. if u are planning to continue ur fathers business or have enugh money to start on ur own business then i gues going for a uni that u might think ull learn more and best fits u is advisable, but if u planning on a career then i guess u gota try to get into the ones in the ranking cuz thats how the HR screens ur CV (he looks at ur university as were uve graduated and if it aint in the top 50 it goes out no matter what ur GPA is), cuz a 2.6 GPA at harvard or oxford is equivalent to a 4.2 GPA at a mid ranked university

Eduction & knwldge r 2 dif thing... I read Somwhere Eduction ends wit collge but knwldge ends with life... Only bookish knwldge cannot shell out in real terms... It can make you happy & proud but can give you the real knowledge that is needed to hav a good career...

I think intelligence as far as IQ is still praised,but in life now u need 2 b more than just book smart...

Its more abt decisions u think, whether financial, educational or any life decision, that determines how "smart" you really are.

exild saint..its true that Indias best comes in at no.163..but there are a lot more universities from uk n usa,which are listed below that..should make you think about the people employed from your part of the world in qatar..(point a finger n three point back at you)..just to keep things in perspective..

Look at the list n u will see that most of the univ listed are from the first world..so for me its great to see an India univ listed there..with time things will change..we've just started..n to b fair we sure did learn from you too..cheers!!!!

you can work on improving instead of resting on one's laurels making claims about how good certain universities are. HOWEVER, I would say that even Harvard has its losers and my alma mater (which is not on the list) has produced some excellent education and research. We have had a Nobel Prizes, several Macarthur Prizes and quite a bit of important medical research.

My point is this: It's great to have standards and rankings, but it shouldn't undermine our intellectual confidence.

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

BE, yes.

Mandi

it was a TRAP!

Now I'll send PM's for all who've posted here with N I C E employment offer.

Exception: of course: DaRuDe! :P

Woohoo my uni is 66th, followed by "LUND University".... LOL

I don't know about the standards of US universities in gulf but will give an example of an Indian institute. It is really really tough in India to get admission in BITS Pilani as the standards are very very high. There is BITS in Dubai where you can get admission without any test by just paying money and they both issue the same degree...

mehek angrezi me type kar, unhe samajh nahi aaya :)

For the others mehek type in english, they didn't understand you...

Just out of curiosity..

Do you think that a US employer would give the same credence to someone who graduated from one of these universities in Qatar ?

sada india bhi kisi se kam nahin hai,are poore duniya se bacche yahan padhne aate hain,tu ki gal karta hai ki usa aur uk ki universities hi sabse acchi hain.chal chod de ab.in universities main padhne ke liye to sadi puri zindagi ki kamayi lag jave,tu ki gal kar rah hai bhayye

What's pretty amazing is that three of these are in Qatar - Cornell, Northwestern and Carnegie Mellon.

Mandi

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There was a lecturer who taught us a couple of subjects in MBA. I remember top managers of E & Y and KPMG consulting her almost on a daily basis regarding their work... Funny such big names were asking for the opinion of a lecturer in a college so far below in rankings to run their business....

Doesn't mean much but thought I should share this...

As we globalize, more international universities will become "recognised".

What is strange is that Germany does not have an entry.

As far as the Asian Universities are concerned, perhaps they have been focusing on subjects which are not "required" in the real world..

You're right 00 it was student life that did it for me. My old college has probably the best bar of any university in the world. Looking out over the Thames with Tower Bridge one way and Waterloo Bridge the other, with London laid out before you.... best place in the world to grab a pint...

I still think we learn more from life itself than any university...

Maybe I am right or maybe I am just feeling embarassed about my university not being there in top 400....

The ranking of the different universities is based on four key themes: Graduate Employability, International Commitment, Teaching Quality, and Research Quality.

yes again all of the above depends on their concentration too..

MBA doesnt make u a business genius but it helps u get the connections needed to succeed in the business world..plus an MBA pushes u to build on what ever u have. how well the university does this depends on the curriculum they provide.

On top of all the criteria u've mentioned above..its the student life that plays a huge role in putting out a quality student to the companies

number 335 or something ,,,in Cairo...I checked on this several months ago here..

Someone else can check the current standings...

My friend Pajju is a graduate magna cum laude from M.I.T - Mallu Institute of Technology..

He is employed in Doha..

I'm disappointed about mine, dropped one place to 23.... I might have to return my degree....

My university not there in top 400 :(

Ok I will resign tomorrow....

ha business schools! What useless places... universities should concentrate on real subjects not pretending that having a MBA makes you a business genius. Maybe that is why India's top university only comes 163....

The ranking of the different universities is based on four key themes: Graduate Employability, International Commitment, Teaching Quality, and Research Quality.

it depends on subjects...different universities have different concentrations and they are ranked higher on their concentrations...most of these universities are not even on the list of top 100 when it comes to their business schools.

What no Qatar?

and India's best university is 163rd.... says a lot about the standard of people hired in Qatar....

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