Indian going soft on gays!

edifis
By edifis

After a few of the European countries have decriminalized same sex marriage, it is now the turn for the Indian Government to decide whether gays and lesbians can proudly proclaim their sexual orientation.
Some are even going to such an extent as saying that its true secularism and Gandhi's dream being realized and it's in line with the thinking of Pt. Nehru who believed in the brotherhood and equality of all men and woman irrespective of religion,caste,creed and sex!
And that the rights of all minorities should always be upheld in India.
I agree with the fact that people do not choose their sexual preference. It's inherent. It's like left handedness. You can train a left hander to use his right hand but given a chance he still would use his left hand.
Opinions please?

http://www.ndtv.com/news/india/will_the_govt_back_gay_rights.php

By ashwindoke• 15 Jul 2009 09:32
ashwindoke

Khalid to reply you

First with the example of nature...

Sea Horse are Homosexuals... There is only one gender...

When two of them mate.. the stronger one passes his life fluid into the other

5 reasons - ?? One valid is enough than counting numbers for reasons...

1. It is not a choice.. it comes naturally. Nature is responsible.

2. It is not disease - It is the biggest example of breaking the shackles of parental conditioning of Human brain.

3. 4. 5. - Lesbian movies are fun... :)

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By Straight Arrow• 14 Jul 2009 21:01
Straight Arrow

Why there are two sex male and female?

Because each one will need the other one.

I think if it was decided to have one sex only it would have been so.

We should ask our self why there were two sexes?

I would like from those who support homosexuality to write down five valid reasons why they think it is normal?

By blablabla• 14 Jul 2009 11:03
blablabla

Funiculus Umbil,

Yes, you are right man. i chose it to be my ID as a disclaimer so that I can talk freely without hypocrisy. Why do you think I should always engage in soothsaying. I know what I say may not attract all but I am prepared to argue if you sound rational.

Some men do have preference for child sex! Do you approve it?

Someonenew, someone already approached supreme court claiming eight gay marriages already took place since the ruling and the ruling has to be stopped.

By edifis• 13 Jul 2009 22:41
edifis

The gays may not be criminals, but still I find the idea very repulsive.

By edifis• 13 Jul 2009 22:40
edifis

Why do I like to watch lesbians so much?

By ashwindoke• 13 Jul 2009 18:26
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ashwindoke

someonenew - Bullseye ....

Very true...

It is not the supreme court.... the society is still not in any shape or size to accept gay couples ....

And the biggest factor which astonishes me is... you hardly get to see Gays in India...

I have lived for 23 yrs.. in metro cities... and have not come across any gay oriented person... male or female....

Except for Shahrukh Khan's n Saif Ali's Kanta Behen Jokes..... and Bobby darling is a doubtful case...

No one talks about it rt now...

But I m pretty sure.... 20 yrs down the line... it ll be socially accepted....

Like girls wearing Jeans... took a while ... to transform from traditional wear to Jeans... but today society is ok with it...

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By someonenew• 13 Jul 2009 16:07
someonenew

Understood Ashwin:) Actually in India its not a big deal the supreme court rule because even if the courts are ok the society is not so unless the society starts accepting gays there's no point in a rule being changed, most gays will be too scared to come out and go get married.

Another main thing is why this rule? What abt the thousands of other issues/rules that need to be changed? Why this rule and why now?

"Ali Baba and 40 thieves" are now "Ali Baba and 30 thieves" ; 10 were laid off.

By ashwindoke• 13 Jul 2009 15:59
ashwindoke

Someonenew - :) thks buddy.. but I wanted to remind ... being social animals... we are affected by everything around us..... we are insulated to no changes....

Snowwhite - :) True... animals live life as nature wants them to...

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By Arien• 13 Jul 2009 15:28
Arien

blabla- nothing will suite u better, perfect nick choosen..gr8..

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By honeybunch• 13 Jul 2009 15:15
honeybunch

are far better than human beings atleast they dont break the laws of nature

By someonenew• 13 Jul 2009 15:07
someonenew

Ashwin, and ur doing exactly what the media is doing- sensationalizing the thing. I really dont care about the sexual prefernce of others, what they do inside their homes or outside with their lives dont affect me. And I dont judge a person by his/her sexual preference so I think I'll be fine thanks for your concern Ashwin:)

"Ali Baba and 40 thieves" are now "Ali Baba and 30 thieves" ; 10 were laid off.

By ashwindoke• 13 Jul 2009 15:01
ashwindoke

Wait a minute.....

If gay is acceptable...

means know people would prefer keeping there kids in Co-ed hostels than all boys or all gals ones...

It means... if two men are seen in a hotel room together.. they ll ve to spend a night in Jail...

If two guyz or gals are wrking till late hrs in office... we ll have to doubt their intentions.... hmm..

Man wish this had happend 5 10 yrs ago....

My dad would have pushed me to talk to a gal and go out with her.. so tht I don involve with guyz... lol

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By ashwindoke• 13 Jul 2009 14:58
ashwindoke

someonenew - it is non of my business is not a way you can handle this issue...

people being gay and legally accepted to be so.. shall affect you in one way or the other....

If not you... your Kids shall.... they ll be living with it... and might think of being one.. if society is ok with it.... and then if you are not.... things ll affect the way we don want...

I am not attacking personally.. pls..

assume the above lines are for me... and if m ok with it now... my kids shall try to be...... I ll have to face tht...

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By someonenew• 13 Jul 2009 14:12
someonenew

Personally I dont agree with homosexuality, I dont think its natural. But i also believe in freedom of choice. As long as your being gay does not affect my life I dont care what you do in your life. Having said that the whole thing has been blown out of propotion by the Media and I think there are much more important Issues for Indian Government to take care of.

"Ali Baba and 40 thieves" are now "Ali Baba and 30 thieves" ; 10 were laid off.

By Rizks• 13 Jul 2009 13:47
Rizks

Handed over to Juniors ? :(

How Bad, So SAD...:(

How come i dont have any knowledge abt these Lesbians ? :(

By ashwindoke• 13 Jul 2009 13:42
ashwindoke

Rizks - ha ha ha ha.. tht is all college dayz collection dude....

the library was handed over to the juniors... :)

Here no idea... if is it possible to get these movies...

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By Rizks• 13 Jul 2009 13:40
Rizks

AshwinPoke !!

So when can i come over to take tat X-rated Lesbian movie from YOU ?

I just wanna explore my knowledge in some fields.

By ashwindoke• 13 Jul 2009 13:31
ashwindoke

Rizks - lol..... nothing serious... jus spreading some awareness...

Ok honestly...there is nothing else better to post on any other forum....

Earlier... when it was season of women oriented forums...

I was engaged in protecting womens right to wear Bikini on a beach...

tht didn mean I wanted to wear one... lol

now the season is of Gay forums... So adding my 2 Dirhams to it.....

B T W.. in X rated movies... my fav are those lesbian ones... man.... its awesome..... don have more words for it...

Anytime better than religious slaughtering.... :)

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By Rizks• 13 Jul 2009 13:20
Rizks

Ashwincoke !!

Seein u taking a lot of INTEREST in these Gay Topics ?

Watz ur plan, haa ?? :)

By ashwindoke• 13 Jul 2009 13:18
ashwindoke

People who think gays are ill - If you can control your natural urge to sleep with a man/women and not do so for rest of your life.... assuming society didn accept it....

I might give some consideration to your arguments...

I swear I ll...... imagine dying virgin... tht is wht you are asking them to do...

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By anonymous• 13 Jul 2009 11:13
anonymous

Blablabla -

The nick states that you know yourself extremely well, even you think your full of shit - hence the choice.

No further comments, 100% behind Gypsy.

By Gypsy• 13 Jul 2009 10:08
Gypsy

Homosexuality is neither stealing, killing or violent. It's simply a sexual preference that, as all research has shown, appears to exist from birth. It's part of a huge spectrum of human sexuality.

By blablabla• 13 Jul 2009 10:05
blablabla

Gypsy, it is a behavioural disorder and has to be treated that way as no behaviours of stealing, killing voilence can be tolerated..

By anonymous• 13 Jul 2009 08:35
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anonymous

@ Khalid...i noticed you've been going on about Qatari culture & how homosexuality is unacceptable in Qatari culture...i'm surprised that not many people have pointed out something...a very large number of Gulf arab men are known to be gay,not openly of course because as you correctly mentioned,it's not acceptable in your culture...i was born & grew up in Kuwait,with a few years in Dubai & Oman in between before moving to Qatar so i'm not just pulling this stuff out from a hat...so yes,a very large no: of gulf arab men are gay & it comes from growing up in an environment where mingling of the sexes is restricted...so talking about natural vs. unnatural as you brought up in your replies...intermingling of the sexes,that is the natural order,that is the way God intended things to be so men & women can have a healthy,platonic relationship with each other...restricting that is what naturally results in men grwoing up to either choosing to be with other men 'cos he can only interact with them or visibly undressing every woman he looks at because he's growing up,he's never had normal,natural,platonic relationships with women...as funiculus umbil said,if one were to do a survey in the gulf & people were completely honest,there is most likely a higher percentage of gay men & women among the local population here than any where else in the world & that is but natural in a restrictive society but of course no one will ever admit it right?...like so many other things here which openely happen but not admitted...you see Khalid my friend,we're all born human,religion,culture,all of that comes later...it's down to the genetics,you & me,we're the same,you have blood running through your body just like me & everyone else...so my point wasn't to bash local culture or any culture for that matter...every culture/religion has it's own faults,they're just different faults...

By Gypsy• 13 Jul 2009 08:35
Gypsy

You don't have your own opinions Khalid, you have the opinions spoon fed to you by your imams.

blablabla, perhaps it's not a "disorder" perhaps, like blue eyes or brown eyes it's just a genetic difference. Blue eyes and brown eyes see the same way.

By anonymous• 13 Jul 2009 08:21
anonymous

bla..bla..bla..bla..bla..bla..bla..bla..bla..bla.......

enough

By Arien• 13 Jul 2009 08:20
Arien

Oh yes I do, to those who are normal.

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By anonymous• 13 Jul 2009 08:12
anonymous

I do take care of myself, you take care also, ask for help

By Arien• 13 Jul 2009 08:10
Arien

I dont need a 3 weeks old users class and expertise johnpur.you may take care of urself, lots of room for improvement.

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By Arien• 13 Jul 2009 08:07
Arien

JOhnpur - If ur post is directed to someone in particular, you have to mention it in the post.If you are responding to someone elses post , you have to refer to that too.. Otherwise , just sit back and listen to the responses.

You yourself first learn and understand before you scratch.

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By anonymous• 13 Jul 2009 08:07
anonymous

no, you should be the one to read all post before commenting and not just posting and posting and posting without reading

By blablabla• 13 Jul 2009 07:51
blablabla

well, the debate should be on if it is a genetic desorder or a mental sickness. Certainly its not a genetic disorder as they have the same errection,ejaculation,orgasm,etc like a normal man. And also like a normal man what they need is some stimulation and a hole to get that. How the hell they cann't get it from women? I watched a debate on India TV where quite some homosexuals attended the debate and they looked pale and nervous unlike normal people. I think they are drawn to such practice due to hopelessness or discard. Hence, encouraging it will be increasing their problems. They need counseling not acceptance.

By anonymous• 13 Jul 2009 06:57
anonymous

I was just saying something about what khalid said: the father being shocked upon knowing his son is gay.

don't comment unless you understood

By krnithyan• 12 Jul 2009 20:02
krnithyan

FU..... u have point

By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 18:52
anonymous

So what are you doing here Delhi? Curious?

The word GAY must have attracted you somehow to this topic.

By Arien• 12 Jul 2009 18:35
Arien

Johnpur -

Quote '' what if the dad and son are gays''??

Unquote

Just as same as a Dad and son who are straight johnpur.

Does it make any probs when the Dad and daughter are straight?

Dad is Dad and , a son is son bro, whatver sexual orientation they are...

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By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 18:12
anonymous

Yes Gypsy,

As soon as it gets difficult, the book with endless quotes and half answers gets involved. To me it seems that there is so much written that the average Ahmed gets lost and just accepts whatever is spoon fed to him. Brilliant strategy, same stunts the Christians were pulling with Africans that accepted the bible in order to get food from the evangelists.

I wonder why people think that these quotes help in a discussion, as obviously he is debating with people that have nothing in common with that book.

By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 16:18
anonymous

khalid, can you just say your opinion in a simple way for us not to have a headache reading.

we are only interested in your opinion and not the quran

By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 16:14
Straight Arrow

I put some verse which might support my opinion, you are insulting me when you say lack of opinion.

By ashwindoke• 12 Jul 2009 16:02
ashwindoke

from where did Aids come in the picture ????

And red Line ???

red Tape was an issue... since when a Red line ????

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By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 15:54
anonymous

another prayer meeting. sick and tired of reading

1 kilometer verses.

By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 15:36
Gypsy

Ah yes. When in lack of a real opinion or facts, quote the Quran.

By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 15:33
Straight Arrow

I do not think that when man and woman are having illegal relation ship they will not have aids even if all precautions are taken.

The best drivers will have car accidents even if they very careful and smart.

In our belief God gives us his Mercy that any legal relation between healthy man and health woman according to our belief there will never be aids, Why?

Because Gods wants always the best thing for the mankind.

In the holy Quran God says if he wants he will bring other people than us, but thats not what God wants here is holy Quran verse:

Ibrahim

Hast thou not seen that Allah hath created the heavens and the earth with truth? If He will, He can remove you and bring (in) some new creation; (19) And that is no great matter for Allah. (20) They all come forth unto their Lord. Then those who were despised say unto those who were scornful: We were unto you a following, can ye then avert from us aught of Allah's doom? They say: Had Allah guided us, we should have guided you. Whether we rage or patiently endure is (now) all one for us; we have no place of refuge. (21) And Satan saith, when the matter hath been decided: Lo! Allah promised you a promise of truth; and I promised you, then failed you. And I had no power over you save that I called unto you and ye obeyed me. So blame me not, but blame yourselves. I cannot help you, nor can ye help me, Lo! I disbelieved in that which ye before ascribed to me. Lo! for wrong-doers is a painful doom.

here is the reference:

http://www.quranexplorer.com/Quran/Default.aspx

By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 14:55
Gypsy

Why, what happens when you cross the red line.

What chaos, lots of societies accept homosexuality and they aren't chaotic.

By ashwindoke• 12 Jul 2009 14:54
ashwindoke

Gypsy - Yap... True...

Its more about the individual.... than the environment..

it is his/her perception than the information around him/her

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By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 14:53
Straight Arrow

here in Qatar we like to stick to our culture and expand to some limit which is allowed by religion but again there are red lines we should not cross, crossing these red lines will destroy the values.

As some one said:

Human can not live without freedome.

Freedome is the base for making or creating human.

Freedome without limits will cause chaos.

Chaos will destroy societies.

Freedome limits is others rights.

By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 14:48
Gypsy

Not even some places Ash, it varies between individuals and couples. Some people, regardless of their upbrining are ok with nudity, others aren't. Some are ok with cheating, others aren't .

By ashwindoke• 12 Jul 2009 14:44
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ashwindoke

Sauna Nudity is news to me...

Back in India we use to wrap ourselves in towels....

Khalid - True... It is environment which decides what is good and what is not...

Some countries think women sleeping with Multiple men is Bad...

In some places Women and Men both should be loyal to each other and not cheat no matter what...

In some places it is ok before marriage and not after tht...

Some places cheating is ok if your spouse doesn't catch you....

In some places It is ok to be with anyone you like.....

If the partner cheats.. it shows to the Spouse S/He is not taking good care of the partner's emotional and physical needs.....

All depends on what is one's reference line.....

Like I would die to accidentally be in a female Section of Sauna from now on... :)

I quit aspiring to be a Liftman in Gals Hostel.... Now maintenance man or Plumber for Female sauna... :)

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By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 14:35
Gypsy

I remember when I first went to the sauna in Korea, which was my first ever sauna. I was SHOCKED at all the nudity. In Canada people never go around nude, not even in locker rooms.

By GodFather.• 12 Jul 2009 14:33
GodFather.

O I do miss those naked Sauna's, and wondering aimlessly in the mens changing rooms naturally in and out the showers without being told off ..:)

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By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 14:31
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anonymous

Khalid,

Spoil? I think your intolerance and narrow mindedness is much worse than having a gay in the family.

Yes Khalid, some are raised in a bad environment. This environment can be in each society. You want to come with me, I will show you all the locals that pick up prostitutes at the bars.

And so what, yes I go to the Sauna naked in my town. It is normal. God created Adam and Eve NAKED. In these sauna's there are NEVER incidents because we are MATURE about it.

By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 14:29
Gypsy

But why? How does it spoil the society? So he's shocked? Big Woop. I was shocked when Canada lost at hockey in the last Olympics. How is momentary surprise ruining society?

By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 14:29
anonymous

what if the father is gay and the son is also gay?

By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 14:28
Straight Arrow

Here in Qatar the father will be very shocked if he found that his son for example is a gay.

Here many families almost 98% do not accept that their sones or daughters to be homosexual.

Take the example if a bad apple is in the box with good apples then some of the good apples will be spoiled.

It is our culture here Gypsy.

By starfaith25• 12 Jul 2009 14:28
starfaith25

yep... another gay bashing thread big hit as i predicted it would be...

well, India welcome to the rel world!

why cant just people grow up? societies change whether we like it or not...

condemning the homos just shows how immature and judgmental human beings can get...

either accept the fact that they're here to stay or keep wearing that smirk on them faces and keep getting irritated by these people... like they give a shait.

Life's a bitch and then you DIE! ;)

By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 14:09
Gypsy

But how does it spoil the family or community?

By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 13:38
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Straight Arrow

If some one wants to spoil his family or community.

But I am sure you agree with me that if some one is raised in an environment where there are no values like the wife can go with who ever man she wants then this will be normal because this is his environment.

For example in Europe people can go the Suna naked, they are used to it.

But here no, it is considered shame if we see some one naked in the steam bath room for example.

At the end it is all about what do you consider good values and which weighs more for you, is good manners more or bad manners.

By ashwindoke• 12 Jul 2009 13:23
ashwindoke

Khalid - Duhh..

Every Opinion is a personal one....

When did I say I m speaking on behalf of a company or a nation......

It is out of experiences I have lived and things I have read... and seen... and came to a opinion...

definitely you have not seen or lived my life....

Everyone see's this world in his own personal way and lives in it....

For you football might be 22 men wasting there time....

For many it is entertainment....

For me it is entertainment = Happiness to Billions and Jobs to millions.. from a player to a groundsman...

Nothing is more divine than tht.....

Ya johnpur - With Horse was the Yukkiest.......

But with animals is with consent.... Rape is totally the opposite of it...

Ya the Animals might file a case for sexual harassment...

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By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 13:19
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anonymous

Khalid,

I wish to add something,

"I am saying that young people, adolescent teenagers, are molding their personalities and their sexualities throughout these years and that the lack of female presence may very well lead to homosexuality"

I wish to add:

"Your disgust, anger and hatred tells me you may have had homosexual experiences/feelings yourself, and are suppressing them. Your online battle works therapeutic as you can not share this feelings/experiences with you family, friends or society, that's why you cling to the utmost conservative stance available"

You, of course, will never admit this. I have sympathy, as also in Europe 'coming out' has been a battle for many.

By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 13:11
anonymous

have seen it too many times.

films like woman versus dog, goat,horse, cow, donkey.

someday these sick women will marry there dogs

what is it about these animals that they like banging them, why not just contact a rapist instead

By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 13:11
Straight Arrow

Give the good manners and stick to it and you are such a negative person.

By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 13:08
anonymous

Very bad :(

I wonder if he called her the next day ?

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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.

By ashwindoke• 12 Jul 2009 12:59
ashwindoke

Gypsy - lol

Consent of Animals... now Animal activists too shall have their say... :)

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By ashwindoke• 12 Jul 2009 12:58
ashwindoke

Don ask my fren... difficult times ask for difficult answers......

It was Yukk... but nice change after getting bored watching same old story line of every bloody porn movie...

Yukkiest CD ever seen...

but it reminds me of fact tht one day or the other we ll have to debate tht class of people too..... :)

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By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 12:53
Gypsy

Personally Ash I think they'll always be hard pressed to prove consent from an animal. But that's me.

By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 12:51
anonymous

Sick isnt it !!

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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.

By Rizks• 12 Jul 2009 12:48
Rizks

Ashwin u C such animal movies, shame on you man.

Infact jump in a glass of water and suicide...:)

By ashwindoke• 12 Jul 2009 12:30
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ashwindoke

Ronaldo Shall play Football...

No matter how well you explain it to him.. logically or emotionally... tht Cricket or tennis is better game to play....

If one likes to play football... he shall play football... no matter wht people say....

Don see any reason why Homosexuals is anything different.

And Khalid... you are filled with hatred.. for no good reason....

Changes shall happen and one has to live with it...

A generation or two after us... shall be discussing...

Is it ok for people to have sexual relation with living beings other than Humans......

Seen in movies--- there are people who like doin Goats, Sheeps, Donkey.... etc etc :)

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By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 12:13
anonymous

No Khaled,

I am saying that young people, adolescent teenagers, are molding their personalities and their sexualities throughout these years and that the lack of female presence may very well lead to homosexuality.

I would like to take you with me one day Khalid, I will take you to a place where local gays gather. You will be shocked by what you see.

Boys dressed like girls, some of them even have little titties and look, walk and talk like females. Local ladies dancing and drinking, and all are happy they get to enjoy a life a little.

You know why they behave extreme? Because of people like you.

By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 12:06
Gypsy

It is MOST DEFINITELY NOT expected for a girl to have her first sex experience at 8 or 9 Khalid. 17 is the average age for that. Jeez man.

By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 12:04
Straight Arrow

For example in USA, Europe, and other western countries the culture is differen.

In the western countires it might be very expected that many girls between 8 and 9 years old have their first sex experience.

I think what you want to say funiculus is go and f**K a girl or a woman to know if you are man?

Correct me if I am mistaken.

By GodFather.• 12 Jul 2009 11:49
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GodFather.

Homosexuality refers to sexual attraction or sexual behavior between people of the same sex, or to a sexual orientation. As an orientation, homosexuality refers to "an enduring pattern of or disposition to experience sexual, affectional, or romantic attractions primarily to" people of the same sex; "it also refers to an individual’s sense of personal and social identity based on those attractions, behaviors expressing them, and membership in a community of others who share them."

Homosexuality is one of the three main categories of sexual orientation, along with bisexuality and heterosexuality, within the heterosexual-homosexual continuum. The most common modern terms for homosexual people are lesbian for women and gay for men although some prefer other terms or no indicators of sexual identity. The number of people who identify as homosexual — and the proportion of people who have same-sex sexual experiences — are difficult for researchers to estimate reliably for a variety of reasons. In the modern West, major studies indicate a prevalence of 2% to 13% of the population. A 2006 study suggested that 20% of the population anonymously reported some homosexual feelings, although relatively few participants in the study identified themselves as homosexual.

Homosexual relationships and acts have been admired as well as condemned throughout recorded history, depending on the form they took and the culture in which they occurred. Since the Stonewall riots in 1969, widely considered the start of the modern LGBT rights movement, there has been increased visibility, recognition and legal rights for lesbian, gay and bisexual people, including the rights to marriage and civil unions, adoption and parenting, employment, military service, and equal access to health care.

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By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 11:49
anonymous

Khalid,

Sorry to burst your bubble but where you come from it is more likely for boys to have homosexual encounters.

In an all boys school where boys of 14 to 16 have very little to no access to females, how can they deal with their developing sexuality? How can they discover their sexuality? Since there are no females available.... they can only share their 'stiffy' with other boys.

I do not have the figures, yet I wish to bet that the percentage of homosexuals in the UAE, Kuwait, Saudi and Qatar and such is higher than anywhere else in the world.

You keep sticking your head in the sand.

By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 11:45
Gypsy

So you're saying Khalid that all you do with your wife is have sex. There's no other purpose to your relationship?

By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 11:42
Straight Arrow

I guess you are mixing the meanings.

I guess for example lesbian is one part of homosexuality, what do these woman do with each other?

I know and others also know as well.

It is a simple as this, if you were grown in a community which do not accept homosexuality then you will see it is not normal and vice vers.

By GodFather.• 12 Jul 2009 11:16
GodFather.

Khalid.. it's not all about Sex with Gays. All they want is to be with the same gender. It does not have to do with sex only, as what your friends friend wants. It is more about a partnership to be with someone like you.

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By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 11:00
Gypsy

Well I don't know what kind of people you're friend hangs out with, but the gay men I know don't behave like that...Actually they do, but only amongst friends kidding around.

By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 10:48
Straight Arrow

The majority of Qatari people are not used to the gay culture acceptance, this acceptance is their in USA, Euroupe and Canada.

I had a friend who met some friends which I do not know and one of them is gay, and he started doing bad things to my friend, and this gay guy wants other people to f**K him.

One also believe it or not is wearing a bra.

To make it clear here in Qatar people are not used to the gay culture.

My personal opinion is if it is due to some hormones then there is a cure hopefully.

By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 10:10
Gypsy

Of course, I'll love my children no matter what, but if there's a choice between a gay child being born to someone who doesn't love them or one who does, I'd prefer they go to the one that does.

And yes, please explain how gays are destroying society.

By GodFather.• 12 Jul 2009 10:08
GodFather.

I think Khalid is refering to destroying the fabric of the Society.. For centuries people/soceity have not been able to tolerate the gays and always demonised them and even executed them (like in Iran now adays). So it will take time for these people/societies to come to terms with it..

Just like India has come to terms with, that does not mean that every Indian agrees with it.

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By Arien• 12 Jul 2009 10:05
Arien

Good to hear that you will also accept them.

Neither any prayers nor any treatments can help I guess.

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By Rizks• 12 Jul 2009 10:05
Rizks

Destroy the society ??

In wat WAY ? :(

By GodFather.• 12 Jul 2009 10:05
GodFather.

I even heard that some mid-eastern countries are offering Gays, Hormone replacing therapy to change them?

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By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 10:05
anonymous

they are happy tiger, the one who destroys the society are the terrorists and not the gays I think

By every_mothers_nightmare• 12 Jul 2009 10:05
every_mothers_nightmare

khalid looks like god don't want to listen to your prayers...with the increasing numbers of gays day by day.

Aana free, jaana free,

Pakde gaye tho khana free.

By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 10:04
Straight Arrow

Does this mean if the child is not homosexual then you will not be able to give the love they desire.

By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 10:02
Straight Arrow

I would not kill them but I will pray that they become normal and live happily.

There are two types of gay people, one will stay alone and will look for people same as him.

Other type may destroy the society.

By Arien• 12 Jul 2009 09:55
Arien

Khalid - we will have no other choice than accepting them. Its not their fault.

How about you? would you kill them?

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By every_mothers_nightmare• 12 Jul 2009 09:49
every_mothers_nightmare

Khalid gays will be gays...dosen't matter to them if people accept or not.

u think they will change if people dont accept?

Aana free, jaana free,

Pakde gaye tho khana free.

By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 09:40
Gypsy

Well I'd be a little shocked if my boy-friend or my father suddenly came out of the closet. But yes I would accept them. In fact I hope I have a homosexual child because I know that I'll be able to give them the love and support they need.

By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 09:38
Straight Arrow

Would you accept this to your father or brother?

By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 09:30
anonymous

maybe mid-east will legalize it soon also

By GodFather.• 12 Jul 2009 09:28
Rating: 2/5
GodFather.

Khaild what I mean is that in the East and especially Middleast it is seen as Alienating, the fact that some is gay.

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By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 09:25
Straight Arrow

Would you accept to have a similar situation?

By GodFather.• 12 Jul 2009 09:04
GodFather.

Khalid it is acceptable in the West Society. I had a friend in the UK. Her Father decided that he was gay when she was in her teens and left her mother. Her mother went and married again and the Father has now a boyfriend all live happily..

So she has also accepted her fathers decision.

But Khalid it is more of a taboo in the Eastern culture than Western socities now a days.

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By Straight Arrow• 12 Jul 2009 09:01
Straight Arrow

If you found your boy friend or father are homosexual? Would you accept it?

By Arien• 12 Jul 2009 08:51
Arien

You are so right Gypsy- and Thanks

Just another milestone by the upcoming India. They proves it again they stand for the minorities, and they are sensitive and respects the needs of its people.

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By Arien• 12 Jul 2009 08:46
Arien

Atif - You have a wrong perception on the subject brother, no one decides to be a gay. Rather they are sad about being one and many even think of ending their life due to the descriminations they face in the society, they cannot help it. They are born so.

Wethr its legal or illegal, a gay will ive a gay. and they are there everywhere, every country.

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By GodFather.• 12 Jul 2009 08:46
GodFather.

Incredible India..:)

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By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 08:44
Gypsy

Good point gadarene, and I wish people would understand that. You don't have to agree with homosexuality, you don't even have to have gay friends, you just have to accept that they're people to and deserve the same rights to live their life free of fear like anyone else. If it doesn't hurt you or effect you, why get involved?

By ashwindoke• 12 Jul 2009 08:44
Rating: 4/5
ashwindoke

As mentioned in the main forum... Sexual preference is not a matter of choice...

It is natural attraction...

If they are attracted to same gender.. and the desire is as strong as I have for a female.... don think they can wrk against it jus cause Society is against it...

Imagine.. You sacrificing desire to sleep with opposite gender.... and asked to live a life of celibacy ....

Or worst forced to make out with same sex person.... and reason given shall be religion....

Really difficult....

It is a natural urge.. nothing rebellious about it...

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By Winn• 12 Jul 2009 08:38
Winn

Smartbuddy: I guess your comment abt population control doesnt make sense. Seriously, are people gonna say" Hey, now its legal! so lets all do it"? Making it legal is not gonna change the numbers, dude!

Atif: 'EVerybody' is never gonna get homosexual. and dont worry about things like perpetuation of human race. We too shall perish, no matter who does what. Sooner or later. and the process will go on:gays or no gays.

Btw, when did 'Mother Nature' tell you it was unnatural? I can understand if you say its so in your opinion.

By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 08:37
anonymous

freedom of expression...plain & simple...we're the biggest democracy in the world & it's but natural that we ought to set an example,so we're actually lagging behind but better late than never...sexual preference is a matter of personal choice,plain & simple...my wife says i'm extremely homophobic,so i have no gay friends & don't particularly like them but that's only my opinion,i don't accept the choice they make but i respect it...i think it's time people start seeing the difference...@ atif & khalid the tiger,please read what i've mentioned above carefully...don't accept it that's your choice, but respect it as someone else's choice...THAT is the only way forward for the violent world we live in...not all this crap about straight being natural blah blah...get real people...

By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 08:21
anonymous

congratulations!!!!

By Gypsy• 12 Jul 2009 08:18
Gypsy

I say Way to Go India. :D

By anonymous• 12 Jul 2009 01:00
Rating: 4/5
anonymous

I dont think that Indians have to worry about decrease in population like Europe for quite some time to come..

Homosexuality is indeed a personality trait and not a disease curable by medication.. There were always homosexuals in the society, just tht they r coming out in the open now and are not hidden frm public eye..

As for the ones predicting doomsday and end of the world.. dont worry the world will survive.. it survived a hell of a lot be4 and dont think homosexuality will cause it to end..

" Dont take life too seriously, you will never get out alive!!!"

By edifis• 12 Jul 2009 00:00
edifis

Homosexuality is not a disease. It's a personality trait. Science proves that a part of their brain functions in a different manner than the brain of a normal person. But you cannot cure homosexuality by medication. It will only make the situation worse. The person may go mad. The useless medication may even prove to be toxic. Even if you can convince him that it's a disease and he is not normal it can't change the way he thinks. It will only make him feel guilty and shatter his moral!

By smartbuddy• 11 Jul 2009 23:40
smartbuddy

maybe indian govt stupidly thinks that this could be the answer to stop the ever growing population but seriously playing with nature will take them nowhere...

End of world is coming near.........

By atif242• 11 Jul 2009 23:34
Rating: 4/5
atif242

Don't go against MOTHER NATURE. Such nation in past was completely destroyed from the face of earth by GOD ALMIGHTY.

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Homosexuality is totally unnatural. How can a human race will flourish/increase when everybody gets homosexual.

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Such ppl are just sick and need some medication for their sick minds. Human being is already suffering from AIDS,DIABETES,MALARIA and GOD knows what else. We are suffering from every means existing on Earth

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Now is the time to repent to our GOD ALMIGHTY for our wrong deeds, seek HIS mercy and must follow the right path.

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By zhyiellha• 11 Jul 2009 23:25
zhyiellha

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By Straight Arrow• 11 Jul 2009 23:23
Rating: 3/5
Straight Arrow

Unfortunately some countries destroy the good values just to be closer to western countries.

For example Turkey, but what difference would this make in India?

Natural man will look for a woman to live with her.

It is the nature.

Man will marry woman to have love and then children and then save the humanity.

Today on the news it was said that by 2040 Europe population will be reduced by 8 million person, why?

please put the different reasons, and I think one reason is homosexual and lesbians.

By edifis• 11 Jul 2009 23:19
edifis

Article 377 of the Indian Penal code have been repealed by the Delhi High court.

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