Be wary of Maids applying for jobs in Qatar
I recently hired a maid/baby sitter who told us that she had a visa. when i asked her for NOC she gave many excuses until finally she admitted that she ran away from her sponsor because apparently the old man of the house had sexual intentions towards her. whether i believed it or not, we gave her the benefit of the doubt because of our need for a baby sitter. THEN one Friday night she had let her estranged husband in at 10 pm (when i was already asleep) and let him sleep in her room without my knowledge. the next morning that i found that out, i had to ask her to wake up her companion in the room and sent him out of the house. after two days, she told us that she had found a higher paying job in a day care center and that she would be leaving the next day. right at that moment, i did not wait and told her to leave the same time. I was so upset because we have a 2-month old baby needing care and now we have to take the baby out for babysitting elsewhere. a week after she left, i discovered that my pair of diamond earrings and a gold ring with diamonds were missing. when i called her mobile, she denied (of course). since i did not discover it early, i had no proof to pin her down. MY ADVICE IS DO NOT HIRE MAIDS WHO DO NOT HAVE PROPER PAPERS. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. IT WAS ALSO A MISTAKE TO TRUST PEOPLE. I DID NOT EVEN BOTHER TO CHECK HER BELONGINGS BEFORE SHE LEFT. THAT WOULD HAVE PUT MY DOUBTS ASIDE. NOW I ONLY BLAME MYSELF FOR MY LOSS. and the saddest thing is, she is a Filipina. i feel sorry for us who are desperately in need of immediate household helps. Please be careful. She said that she now stays in Al Khor (which is the same story she tells people while she was with us). and also she said that she was going to work at a day Care center. i dont know which story to believe. just that my jewelry is gone...
Are you Mystica?
angry pinoy dude...
with your attitude, you don't deserve one. If you can pay 550, what are you arguing? You are the first to say you know me that I can't afford to hire a maid, so why are you mad? I pity you! If you have nothing reasonable to argue, get out! (now if you will complain again (you are the first to say back-off). Get a life!
"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"
"dgoodrebel is not plastic"
lol!dms...
in my home,and excuse me DMS,i pay my maid 550$ a month for your information,and shes indonesian,so what the purpose for being know you?i dont care...so all i can say work for more and sweat for more,thats why you can afford a maid to wife you ass....non sense idi**
then you are the one to back-off! Remember the ad of wwf, if there is no demand (but here its exploitation by greed agencies back home and here in Qatar), there is no one to be exploited!
How sure are you I can't afford it, do you know me? But you admitting you only give a meager 200USD, it reflects on your personality. Hope your maid gets even a (good and genuine) rest day!
"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"
"dgoodrebel is not plastic"
you must say that to your fellow pinoys,or make some petition to your goverment,thats the problem of your country thats why a lot of your countrymen is go out from your country to seek money to their family.just like you,im surely you cant afford to get a maid then pay $400.so back off!...
it's simply exploitation! Some were already cheated back home and yet, it is exploited more here! It goes with other workers also. Out of desperation, they go here and ended up exploited.
The purpose of increasing or having a salary cap for DH is to discourage Filipina women in going out as DH because of so many reports of abuse. But still many are hardheaded or just out of desparation still try to go with the corrupt and wrong process. And because some people is exploiting this desparation by others and try to place cheaper price. Others may have agreed willfully or ignorantly but many were just victims of fate!
"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"
"dgoodrebel is not plastic"
ANGEL16,
DONT WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE LIVING WAY OF THOSE PERSON.
???? WHAT ?????
MOLESTED BY THEIR EMPLOYER
I'LL ASSURE YOU THAT ONLY SICK PEOPLE MOLEST WOMEN!!! AND NOT ALL OF US ARE LIKE THAT.
such incompetence coming from a helper!!!do it all by yourself,,,by yourself means be a stay at home mom and provide quality time for your newborn baby...
I learned a lesson. That's for sure. Thanks to all. :0)
IS NOT A BIG DEAL.ALL OF THEM DESERVE TO PAY 400-500$ A MONTH.BUT WHAT HAPPEN,A LOT OF EMPLOYER GRAB A CHANCE TO HIRED THOSE UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE.THEY ARE THE ONE WHO MAINTAINING THE CLEANLINESS OF THEIR HOUSE, CLOTHES EVERYTHING THAT THEY ARE USING.BY THE WAY I DONT WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE LIVING WAY OF THOSE PERSON.SOME OTHER ARE HARASH BY THEIR MALE EMPLOYER,IS THAT RIGHT?WHY THEY TAKE THE CHANCE TO COME HERE FOR WORK?JUST BECAUSE THEY NEED TO FEED THEIR FAMILY OR WHATEVER.LIFE IS GIVE AND TAKE.LETS JUST PRAY FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO MOLESTED BY THEIR EMPLOYER.
It's a dumb way to increase salaries.
If it was really enforced, most people won't employ phillipinas.
It's a free market, and a government can't force prices when they only control a small part of the equation.
In most cases the contract signed in Manila are fake! Just like I said before, most agency provide contract for housemaid with a different job titles like ex. cleaner, food server and so on, with a salary of $200 dollars, when infact the workers are going to work as DH-domestic helper. Then how does it prevails?
U know what, I would be very happy if the Filipino housemaids are taking home $400 dollars.
But look at this scenario:
An employer goes to a manpower office in Qatar to hired Filipino housemaid. And he can offers only $200 as monthly salary. The office in Qatar contacted their counterpart office in Manila. The office in Manila looks for applicant who can do the job. Here comes the desperate applicant in Manila and the office inform her the salary is only $200, if she accept the offers, take it, if not then leave it, simple as that! So, why can't we do it the other way? Why can't we say to the employers, we need $400 dollars salary as housemaid, take it or leave it!
If no Filipino housemaid will accept this lower salary, the employer are force either to hired a non-Filipino housemaid or... offers a salary of $400 as required. But truth is there are lots.
But then, if there are available employment for these less fortunate people who are desperate to work for a lower salary, do u think they will take the pain of being miles away from their loveones? No!
Bottomline is, I blame our corrupt Govt. for the hardship of the Filipino people. And they are actually the real accomplish for this so called exploitation! I myself, if there is any available good paying job for me in the Philippines, I will not find myself in any Gulf countries. As a Nurse, my salary in the Philippines was equivalent to a housemaid salary in the Gulf, yes! it was only $200 considering that was a Govt. job huh? That asnwer the common question, why 70% of Filipino Nurses are outside the country. My own opinion ;)
whatever happens to the OFW, the contract signed in Manila prevails! The half-price contract here is called exploitation! Plain and simple! Now, who's exploiting? Who get income out of USD 200.00? And who's the accomplish in the exploitation? Your guess is as good as mine!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
i dont think this is real maybe you just wanted to make up a story against pinay..and are you happy now lambert????
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AS if people here are all LAWYERS hehehe!
My very first point here was: DONT PUBLISH ANY UNEVIDENCED ACCUSATION ESPECIALLY THAT THE ACCUSATION NEGATES FILIPINO PEOPLE AND THE PUBLISHER IS LIKEWISE A FILIPINO.
lol azi, i really think that there is a secret society of trolls here in ql...
I would say both, the agency in the Philippines and the workers are knowingly breaking the country's Law.
The employer signed a contract "$200" with the local agency in Qatar. And the housemaid signed contract "$400" or (as cleaner/utility worker $200 salary) with agency in Manila.
The question, which contract is original? In the Philipines, it should be the $400 contract and in Qatar, it should be the $200 contract, right? But the thing is, the works take place in Qatar, then....
too late...hmmmm
I personally dont blame the employers over this issue.
The Agency- they are force to do that for their business to keep running, so long the applicants are well informed about the real salary.
The Housemaid- they have to accept the salary as take it or leave it, do they have more choice?
The Government- ahhh you cannot force employers to offer $400 when they dont want to. And if u do insist on that, well find more ways to provide employment to your people, but first thing to do...if not stop, at least minimize corruption! :P
I understand how frustrating this is for you. I know that you acted on a good fate by taking her in without the needed papers and it suddens me that there are people who would take advantage of the goodness of others. You have all the right to doubt about the motifs and intention of that maid you hired especially when you learned that you lost your diamond earings and a ring. However, I just want to clarify and comment on the last statement you mentioned. You said that nanny you hired was a Filipina. She may be one but let me emphasize this that not all people from the Philippines are not trustworthy. You should have not mentioned the nationality of that person since it belittles all those who have the same nationality as she is. I am a Filipino too and that I could say that I am trustworthy. I hope everyone who reads this would agree to what I said. "The fault of one is not the fault of everyone."
you talk just you everything.sooooo!scared..ypos....
Let me share you some facts.
The agencies in the Philippines knows that the required salary for housemaid is $400 as per new Law and infact a housemaid applicant is not allowed to travel by our Immigration at Manila airport when the contract salary is lower than the said amount.
Again, the agencies are aware that the offered salary by the employer is 750riyals equivalent to $200 only. The housemaid applicant is aware on that too. Which means, both the agency, the housemaid and the employer are fully aware on the fact that the salary is $200 dollars only!
What the agency do?
Write down the job title in the contract as "utility worker, food server, cleaner and other post like that" which is usually an 8-hours work per day with free accom. and food allowances and a salary of $200 dollars. Or another way is to make 2 contracts. "One" is to write down salary of $400 as Domestic Helper, but that contract is valid only till the airport and another "one" is the original contract from the employer stating $200 salary which is valid upon arrival..... So that, the housemaid applicants can pass thru the Immigration at Manila airport.
Now, I'll leave it for you to decide whom to be blamed in this scenario? ;)
criticized the thread of tess,yeah concern for not trolls.you think you have the knowledge of einstein or franklin?come on you faggggg....
we recently hired a part time babysitter/maid to help my mother in taking care of the kids and house...
ana hindi maskeen mafi fulush lol
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do you have diamonds, too? Lol!!!!!!!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
Maneejhy did you by any chance hire a maid locally recently?
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Shold care from any maid/baby sitter
Ms Tespascual -- pls post or pm me the nme of the housemaid. thanks
they have a contract prior to departure. Now if the contract is Kadama, the OFW and whoever is her employer here signed a contract between them. You contract as drawn by the agency is NOT the original contract signed by the Househelp way back in her home country. This is what I am pointing out! So it is not a BS and I am not spreading untruths as you claimed!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
Concerned with the lost rings and earrings, why should she go to the details of saying they were laced with gold and diamonds? she could just say rings and earrings.
the pink panther detective....
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Looks like every one here has a diamond stolen lol
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I am not defending her if she did steal from you but it sounds like she is in a desperate situation. I feel vulnerable here sometimes, I cannot imagine how it would feel to be in that situation. Secondly, this is not the first "she stole my diamonds" post I have read on QL over the years. Thirdly, lesson learned, put it down to experience, you still have a home and family with you, more than she has.
I have with me copies of contract of Filipina Kadamas and it's clearly stated there USD 400.00 You want to meet? Or better yet, pm me a fax number and I'll fax to you the contract (tomorrow, the contract are in our house). Ask you househelp, what is the contract she signed in Manila (if you have a Pinay househelp?).
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
lol I am slow today
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PM azi said that with Tongue in cheek .... subtle sarcasm
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i dont know what were your constraints,,,but would like to tell you that you should not have let her to stay with you.
secondly, she should have given at least ONE REFERNCE, of any nationality saying that they know her personally.. To have a copy of her pass prot, ID, fotograph etc,,,, whch will make the maids feel - it is not going to be an easy game and the houselady means business !!
legal means states USD 400.00 for domestic help (Filipina, I am not sure about the others). Does it mean that all these people, local and expats alike giving only QR 700 to 1000 (any amount less than USD 400.00) are lawbreakers. Join me, I'll introduce you to some, mostly expats.
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
I got some chores to do.
I'll post later what I (truly) think about this topic and then move on....
Cheers!!!
and I agree.
but my post has double innuendoes...if you get what I'm saying ;-P
warning! The word used was "be wary". Why so hard on the details? She admitted some mistakes but we don't have the whole picture of what happened!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
with you azilana7037, lets not be harsh on her....
but don't preach legality here. I have seen many "legal" contracts of domestic help here, it says USD 400.00. Tell me, how much is given?
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
Let's say she made a "few" mistakes like"
1. the title is attention grabbing (a GENERALIZATION, no doubt about it).
2. Stating that her hired help is a FILIPINA, who let someone in the house without the employer(tespascual) knowing it, and that maid is a runaway
3. stating that she found out that she lost her valuables a couple of days after the maid left.
Geez, guys...she's been into a horrible experience from the hands of a kabayans...be gentle with her....
with her. and if there were occasions for a few hours, i always checked her. anyway, you are right, the diamonds are material things and i really was not sorry about losing that. this all happened in a short time. lesson learned. Thanks.
would you have done? my intention was to warn other kabayans na baka maloko nitong babaeng ito. hindi mo matatawag na sinisiraan. dahil actual na nangyari. tanggapin mo na hindi lahat ng tao, kesa pinoy or ibang nationality e pare pareho. mayroong lalabas na masama, may mabubuting tao. wala akong intensiyong siraan ang kababayan natin. bakit ko itatago ang problema para lang protektahan ang pangalan natin pero hindi mo proprotektahan ang mga kababayan mo sa maaaring mangyari?
...is there a secret society of trolls in ql?...
you are trying to insinuate there is a lot of you and i'm alone? duh..am not impressed.
I am not better than anyone but I learn to accept lesson and rise from it! And I am not checking on you if you stop posting about the past! I love reacting positively (on my view), so watch for us always!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
DONT give anyone the "benefit of the doubt" and trust them with a 2 month old! You endangered a defenseless child by leaving them with untrustworthy care why? Because it was convenient for you. Sorry, but having a baby is NEVER convenient. The least you can do is do your homework and find someone good to take care of them! If there is ANY doubt at all, then make them leave. You were somewhat naive. At the first sign of a problem (you found out she had run away) she should have been told to leave. Sorry, but not much sympathy in this case. Consider the diamonds gone and that its better that that was your only loss, rather than injury or worse to the child.
but, i do not want to tolerate how it was delivered.... hey,Tes give some respect to us filipino and since you are not sure it was her doing why posts?
I learned ma lesson indeed...stop checking on me pal, you have not heared the worse from me.you are nobody better.
and how "soft-hearted" we are ( and the condition of the household at the time), don't accuse her of being dumb! You should be wary of "dumb" people. You know what are they capable of doing out of "dumbness"?
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
lol, nomad. i presumed that she is one because of the ff:
1. she took in a maid who had run away and did not really bother to check fully the background. which only means that she took pity on the poor kabayan.
2. she is living with her son/daughter and his/her family
3. she is hiring now a close relative from her country to tend to the baby.
4. her ql monicker sounds like a spanish name
very pinoy!!!
kadaut...
analyze your thread. We called your attention on certain degree, not totally. I hope you learned your lesson!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
Be wary of Maids applying for jobs in Qatar...
the purpose i think of the poster is to discouraged potential employers to get rid of the filipina maids... the statement is very clear, very offensive and very shameful.
but trying to dig from the content ---
"she admitted that she ran away from her sponsor because apparently the old man of the house had sexual intentions towards her. whether i believed it or not, we gave her the benefit of the doubt because of our need for a baby sitter."
it is your missed that the poster didn't seek preventive measures before accepting such like maid. now it is her loss.
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I made the same mistake earlier...I was instantly clubbed by murderous rage of rejection and distaste by fellow F. instead of a sympathetic-or prof. advice-to the ecstacy of other nationalities.
Remember you can not please everybody. However, you are wrong posting unevidenced accusations on the maid in a public offensive multi-skinned and multi-racist infested forum in a slavery enveloped country. Shame on you for that.
who says tespascual is a filipina?
why we dont wait for the person whon post this thread to depend her post.
solomon....how do you say that?
if she didn't fire the girl for sneaking another man to the house, she tolerated that. just by asking the man to leave the next morning doesn't help!
She is highly recommended for the award...lol!
she did not tolerate!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
To accuse of a sinful act without any evidence and publish in a pubilc forum...dont you think this is not an act of demoralizing? What do you think other nationalities who may come to read this thread think about the filipino people?
Oryx, you are entitled to your opinion but I really find your words a little bit harsh. Emphasis was on the baby, not on the diamonds. It's clear in the posting!
Pit_bull, the problem with the poster is mentioning the nationality but checking her profile, she never mentioned her real nationality (I presumed she is also a F........), well, maybe not her intent but she gave a wrong signal! That is why we are reacting!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
AND THE DUMB OF THE YEAR AWARD GOES TO....
Mrs. Fairy Queen - how could you continue tolerating your maid who has been sleeping with other men, right inside your house??? If you do not take appropriate action on time, you face the consequences....
you too have something missed in hiring such maid...
and that's you cannot be blame with all the consequences.
i dont think she didnt undergo interview from u ... why not ask for reference persons...
if she fled away from previous employer, that very moment you would be alarm of that... although she told you from her side.. are u not alarmed whether she's telling the whole truth?
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Ohhhhhhhhhh
She is concerned about the loss of her diamonds and not the potential danger of a two month old baby with a someone.
Just like people put their kids on the car's front seat and let them play in swimming pools unsupervised....
My words maybe harsh but the consequences of not looking after your children is far worse.
although shes mention or not,nothing wrong with her post,she dont have enough evidence to complain with the authority,VP mentioned "demoralized",well for what i see in this thread nobody demoralized filipina,but if you will stick on this issue,no need to be very offensive to this public forum,whether you like it or not,some pinays doing that kind of thing."NOTE" not all ok.so be it pinoys....
you are right pit-bull. however, i could not understand the need to identify the maid's nationality. i mean the nationality is not the issue here, right? she could have said that the maid is of the same nationality as hers and let the posters decide which one it is or to just leave that fact out. oh well...
kadaut...
redbull, it is wrong to mention nationality, it was not necessary...unless you want to make noise and grab some attention...
it's really not a good idea if you're planning to leave your 2 mo. old baby to a nursery don't take another risk since you've said your baby is more valuable than your lost diamonds. My advice go directly upstairs on the Immigration and talk to the head of Visa issuance and bring also your baby w/ you they are also soft-hearted when it comes to child care or better leave your job 'coz nothing beats up mother care.
arrested instead of reporting to QL!
"katas ng qatar"
"katas ng qatar"
STONE COLD is right, and this is my point tespascual, publishing a bad image of your fellow countrymen (in a public forum) even without holding any evidence is worse than reporting her to the police. The issue is not her "NAME" but in general "FILIPINA" . Now, no wonder why many men especially other nationality thinks that FILIPINAS have a very low reputation.. DAHIL KAPWA FILIPINO NAGSISIRAAN.... NAKAKAHIYA!
Oh poor thing. Firstly she is giving bad publicity to her own country fellowman. She's lucky no body drag her to the airport for the next flight out. Wish her better luck the next time.
...cool down red_bull its still early in the morning...
SHES NOT DEMORALIZING FILIPINA,CAN YOU SHAKE YOUR HEAD TO REMOVE THE NUTS BLOCKED IN THE NERVE.YOURE SO DEFENSIVE.YOU PINOYS ARE JUST LIKE GREMLINS.SHHHHHHHHH***
"now thankfully i have found someone who could sponsor a Filipina housemaid (close relative) and this will solve the problem."
beware, "close relatives" can create problems that is more difficult to solve...
btw why not try maids other than pinays?
pin her down simply because i did not find it out on the day it got lost.
but to leave her in another person's house still breaks my heart. hope to get that visa soon. we were denied before but we keep trying. we really prefer the same nationality and hopefully this will be solved.
If you are not happy with my post, then, it does not give you the right to address me this way in your comment. I have the right to inform others so they, like me can also learn from my lesson. As i said, i am sad and disappointed because she is a filipina. By posting my experience, we may all realize that this is not the first time it is happening. There are many illegally staying maids in qatar, not only Filipinos but Indian and Indonesian nationalities as well, and others. i did not have proof so i did not report it to the police. i did not even mention her name, did I????? I DID THINK BEFORE I ACTED this is why i posted it. so others will become aware of this scenario WHICH MAY HAPPEN AGAIN.
calm down
go to any maid recruitment agency and ask them for a part time maid.
Vitaline,
i never intended to let her stay in my house which is why i was asking her for her NOC. but things happened one after another until that happened. so, as i said, a lesson learned.
braveheartqatar,
thank you so much. we are now trying to get a close relative to come here and work for us. i dont care for the jewelry so much as i can buy again.
Darude,
i am working my lazy a$$ so we can pay a maid....what comes around goes around. stealing is everyone's concern. i just hope it does not happen to anyone else again. illegally-staying maids are very common nowadays not only among filipinos but other nationalities as well.
FeeFee,
thanks for your words. As i have said, as much as possible we never left her alone with the baby and if on several days that her parents were both on duty (morning shift, 6 to 2), i always checked her out by phoning her all the time. life in Doha especially when you have babies is really hard. that i have realized now. she is my grandchild and we preferred not to take her to baby sitters outside for fear of everything (contagious illness, etc). now thankfully i have found someone who could sponsor a Filipina housemaid (close relative) and this will solve the problem.
Thanks a lot. I just hope ORYX will never encounter the same situation. let it be. i did not expect everyone to understand or to agree with me, i just wanted to tell everyone my story and get the lesson from there.
Oryx,
you are very harsh. the baby is never left alone with her. that i made sure of. and during the time she was here with me, we were applying for a Qadama visa but was denied the first time. You know the procedures in Immigration. i do not value my diamonds more than i value my grandchild. i just wanted everyone to know a lesson learned the hard way. I admitted i made a mistake did'nt I?????
no, the guy is her husband who abandoned her and she said they have been abandoned for 7 years. when she came to Doha, she met someone who knew the whereabouts of the husband so finally they met.
not to be blamed
your lazy a$$ is to be blamed
now enjoy for what you have been through.
a lesson to learn..dont trust someone whom you've known for a short time...
oh oryx please common,
these are very hard words for any mother to hear. sometimes circumstances can leave you with no choices.
nobody is perfect we all do make mistakes. in my belief there is no such thing call perfect mother. every mom loves her child and wants the best for them, so please do not make such a fast judgedment with out knowing why she had to leave the baby with a baby sitter.
my only advise to you tespasual, is that you should have arrange a baby sitter ahead of time, since you knew that you would need one right after giving birth to your child.
good luck
action speaks louder than words
and if such "runners" you are welcoming in your house, you be violated by police and moi...
I had more worse..and they were on my sponsorship... the stories about husbands,poor children in phill, bad sponsor, how they are poor and more... Shame!
I have many phillipino girls in my company, I adore them and they are my friends.. but SUCH people ( like your and my ex-maids) spoiling reputation of really good people.. the best is to take from trusted agency and on your visa..
One case from million... the same story like you have, bad bad local people beated poor girl and she ran away. She lived in one house, where was a baby.. after few weeks the lady noticed that she seems sick.. and she brought her to the hospital.. and the maid had typhoid fever ( i thik i spelled right in english) and her stage of the illness was very seroius..after this, also was discovered that the people who brought her to Qatar, discored this by the medical test and by rule, they wanted to send back. She lived with them just few days and then she was gone...
There are a lot of cases like this.. Be carefull who is coming to your house. The most sad in this, that housemaid knew about the fever and was quiet, and the small innocent baby could be affected...
Blimey - a 2month old baby
your actions horrify me - how little you value your child
and how much you value your diamonds
if you are sure that she is the one who had stolen your jewelries, call the police and report her. give them her number. she might not be arrested for theif but she could be arrested for illegally working here. if you are sure, that is. end of story.
kadaut...
tespascual, IM NOT HAPPY WITH YOUR POST THO I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. You admitted that u dont have evidences in ur accusation against her, WHERE DID U GET THAT COURAGE OF YOURS TO POST IN THIS FORUM AND DEMORALIZE A FILIPINA JUST LIKE YOU????
Next time people, THINK BEFORE YOU ACT!!!!!!!
My empathy with you but still that's a hard lesson learned. I hope that when you're gonna look for another babysitter, it should be recommended by those people you have known. We may have the same nationality but I do not tolerate such things because it really ruins one reputation by some people judging in general. But keep in mind that, KARMA is just around the corner (I hope you believe in this). Anyway, thanks for the warning. :)
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"Admit your mistakes...before someone exaggerates the story."
"estranged husband"!!! you mean the guy she met 2 hours ago, right?