The difference between Israel and Palestine is democracy and oil. You have to have at least one of the 2 to be prosperous in this area and Palestine has neither. Shame on Israel for building on land they won in a treaty signed 40 years ago.
I disagree with you about Hamas, the problem is 60 years old, its not about rockets and weapon contraband, weapon to those people is more important than food, you can live without food for few days but you can survive with Israel without weapon. you either die or loose your dignity.
those people dont have anybody to defend them, to you they may be fool but to us they are poor people trying to defend their families, any if anybody want to take their weapon and dignity let him go there and try...
And this propaganda about civilian separated from hamas thing is NOT correct at all, Hamas is from those families: sons, fathers, brothers and husbands. they didnt came from mars or something.
Aissa: lol, exactly, because Hamas wasn't smart enough to understand that by refusing the 2 only requests that Israel was asking (no rockets + no weapon contraband), showed that they weren't interested in stopping the Israeli attacks just to be shown as victimes
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
hahaha, i read some of your comedy comments but this was the best, what the h-ll, why he didnt act as monster from the first day and scare Isreal and save lots of lives. wallah if your are serious then you have a serious problem.
I can understand that they stop war coz of qatar action, coz of world pressure, coz of any thing but not this.
even my small brother knew that Israel will stop war soon few days ago, they were adviertising it on the news. Got scared ha.
"please do not forget the premeditated destruction of the Palestinian infrastructure including schools, state buildings, hospitals and mosques."
Than i guess that those budist statues, with thousands of years) in Afghanistan were destroyed by mistake by the Taliban, schools teaching girls were attacked by Taliban, radio/tv stations also destroyed by them, public executions, etc...
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Both states freezed their relations with Israel but not suspend. i think there semantic difference between these two terms.
I believe that Israel is not serious about anything, and it became more stubborn and pretentious after it killed more than 1500 Muslim Arab Palestinians from Children and women and elderly, with the sulk silence of Arabs, Muslims and International Community.
please do not forget the premeditated destruction of the Palestinian infrastructure including schools, state buildings, hospitals and mosques.
I believe that what Israel is doing has never happened in humanity history before, not less than thousands years ago (during uncivilized ages)
coelacanth, it can be argued that hamas also responded with what ever means they have to israeli aggression, the whole reason the rockets where being launched was because israel even in the cease fire did not stop targeting hamas officials, and the blockade was never lifted, as for the human shield argument, i doubt the unrwa hospital and schools had any fighters in it, since media cameras where their 24/7 reporting live from that location, and that did not stop the idf from attacking it, lets for one second forget the systematic eradication of civilians in gaza, why is israel refusing to allow the media to film in gaza, why is israel blockading all forms of un aid and humans right watch officials from entering the troubled zone, and why is israel targeting the media.....its because the idf can not be shown in its true light, as a racist barbaric army, they prefer if hamas instead was portrayed as the aggressors.....i said it before, the argument for who started what is far too complex and both sides will not see the point of view from the other side....what i am trying to argue is, in this was, their is the IDF, and their is Hamas, IDF has used banned weapons against gaza, shelled civilian locations, and attacked UN and media institutions, close to 1200 dead over 5000 injured.... anyone claiming this is an equal response, has to get their heads out of their @#!'s and just look at the figures...i am an arab that grew up and lived in the states, the bias in the news media their is just sickening, here in the middle east you have acess to both sides of the story, you can get american channels, and pro palestinian channels, and some what neutral channels, before you go online spreading hate and theories, i invite a lot of you to actually see both sides of the story, israel is a reality and the arabs have to live with it, its here to stay and no amount of civil unrest and resistance will wipe it out, their people have no where to go, that said, the palestinians also have right to their land, and no amount of carnage and massacres will also push them out of their homes, its a stalemate, and the only thing israel is succeeding in doing is planting hatred in the majority of the Palestinians and the arabs
even distinguish the difference between "profit" and "prophet" argue extensively about this topic? Arguing for an "oil embargo"? Who will suffer? Foolish idea, a drop in the price per barrel already affect the producers, what's more if they don't supply their main clients?
Yes, I agree with those who said that in the part of Qatar, it's a good gesture. Period!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
no doubt that qutting ties with isreal will not make any diffrence to isreal or its supporters, but it will sooth the agony of the Palestine sufferer knowing that their muslim brothers/sisters feel thier pain and thats the least they can do for them. May Allah unite the muslim nations, until we are untied the suffering of the muslim ummah will continue. How do we expect an outsider to help, if our own brothers are not willing to help!!!
Plus, there are appeal stations in the malls to send money to gaza,plus the King said the Bahrain defence hospital is ready to recieve wounded gazans for treatment, so Qatar isnt the only country doing anything.....
"A man may fight for many things.His country,his friends,his principles,the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child.
But personally,I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sackful of porn."
.....that other Arab countries, GCC included doesnt have,....I guess the Emir called a meeting and he was dissappointed by the character of the Arab Leaders or their lack of it.
It is indeed great of Qatar to take a stand on this issue finally. I guess the rally did help in reassuring the Emir as of the compassion of the People of Qatar towards the Gaza issue.
It no longer matters who is right or wrong....what matters is the bloodshed has to stop.
The Palestians have been pushed back to the Stone Age....No schools, no hospitals,...No Postoffice.
Qatar has done right by suspending its ties with Israel over its disproportionate use of force. At least the Emir can sleep peacefully with his Conscience unlike the other Arab leaders.
Hamas wants support from Arab nations, to do this, "Let Israel slaughter our people so we get their attention (arab nations)" Who in his rightful thinking would put rocket launchers, mortars in between civilian houses that you know Israel Air Force will bomb it?
When Hamas militants bombed Israel, it was not a big deal. when Israel retaliated, it becomes political, and moreso, Religious. Hamas militants should think of their actions prior to attacking Israel. they are just using the civilians as shields so that Israel can be blamed for the bombing. It was not Israel who started the launching of rockets, it was Hamas militants. And Israel was not even warned that rockets will be fired at them. Israel warned Gaza that a rocket will be launched. Now, why point the finger on one party when they are at war? If Hamas is at the winning end, will there be a big news such as these? Suicide bombings in Israel prior, was it a big deal? Was it because Hamas is a Muslim, and is using religion as a tool to gain support from muslim countries? They are at war, and Hamas started it. they should be blamed for starting the war, and the effects of it. I hope this doesn't become another Afghanistan/Iraq where religion was used to gain supporters in their fight because this war was not triggered by Religion, but by politics. What was the treatment of Other countries to US after they destroyed IRAQ looking for "Weapons of Mass Destruction", and found NOTHING? US was PRAISED instead!!! How many children were killed then? How many women were raped by US Servicemen? How many civilians were executed? Aren't you guys being biased?
Don't get me wrong...i am not an Israeli, nor supports Israel. In every Action, there is ALWAYS an EQUAL and OPPOSITE REACTION. Someone bombed Israel, do you think Israel will be happy and sits around waiting for another rocket?
If Hamas stops the bombing, there will be ceasefire. If Israel stops retaliating, it will be wiped out of the face of the earth.
It's not because things are difficult that we don't dare, it's because we don't dare that makes things difficult!
annc & sit.com dead Israels only good Israels, cammon, first of all your people learn atleast a basic history of Palestine, before you commenting. Think like human not like .....
Saudi,Egypt , PLO & Jordan are all over the news channels underestimating the Qatari decision
PLO leaders have openly criticized Qatar yesterday in Alarabia channel claiming that "freezing" the ties instead of permanently cutting all ties is not enough
Arab news channels have shifted its attention to the Arab split
and I love the country. You have your country, it is up to the Palestinians as to how they get theirs, And if that means accepting a reduced Israel then that is their choice, not yours. The trouble is that this desire to eradicate Israel(by non Palestinians) is keeping the palestinians from getting their homeland.
At the end of the day it doesn't effect me at all, but it will do no one any good to see this conflict go on for another 60 yrs. By then there will be nobody alive who were driven out of the 'old' Palestine. prehaps that is what it going to take for their to be peace - 1948 as ancient history.
Well I'm off to bed now, will continue if you want tomorrow.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
so "The world economy would collapse", and i dont think anybody can hold that, thats why i said the West will stop supporting Israel to avoid this.
I am really sad for your students, i am sure they are very bad in reading other ideas, i told you if you read by all my comments, you would not posted your comment.
i prefer not to go with you to the personal level, because i really respect what your professional is about, and i am sure that your are nice person when your are not attacking me :)
No im Lebanese and was born in Lebanon, we had some experience with Israeli civilization!! , im here from two years only, and yes i will return to my beautiful country any time :)
Israel kick Palestinians out of their land and destroyed their cities,then they brought jews from all around the word to build Israel, you can not compare German to Israel.
I understand how you feel, you are pro Palestinian, I'm pro Palestinian, it's just that we disagree on the method to achieve a Palistinian State. And I feel it is unrealistic to expect Israel to vanish. And it's the majority view that will achieve peace not the minority view.
A few questions for you - I assume you are from a Palestinian family, where were you born? how long have you been in Qatar? Would you leave your birth home, or Qatar, for good if you had the right to return?
I only ask as most Palestinians I know would not return as they have never been there and have comfortable lives else where.
The Palestinians that count most are the ones living there now, the wishes of the Palestinian diaspora are of secondary concern.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
2. ALL FIVE brothers of my grandmother along with other 20 MLN. people of my country of origin were killed by Germanys during WW2. Does it mean Germany has no rights to exist and should be eliminated?
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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
none on this earth can hold his lifestyle, oil is o2 for our life now. why you think USA send its troops to this area, to protect arabs??!! i think to protect the oil.
as for your education level, i think you should know that moreover shouldnt you teach people how to respect others ideas.
Sorry to tell you this my friend but Israel is here to stay, the very best the Palestinians can do(and this is supported by the majority of Palestinians that actually live in the occupied territories) is a two state solution. I believe and hope that Obama actually realises that the key to the so called 'war on terrorism' & 'clash of civilisations' is the Palestinian issue.I think he realises it's that important and I hope he will give Israel some tough talking.
The US is the key, as you haven't said anymore as to how the Arab nations are going to overcome Israel.
The Palestinians want a country and peace, and for that one has to be practical not ideological and accepting that there is a place called Israel whether you like it or not.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
who told you that if they stop it , it will stay for ever like that, and who told you if arab stop exporting oil you can hold your lifestyle, if you read all my comments you would not post your insulting comment.
in past arabs only minimized the amount of fuel, and the results were amazing.
May be your are not updated with what is happening in Gaza, i have at least full 4 hours every day for more than one year to listen to news about Gaza or reading them.
I believe Gaza now is under war from Israel and lot of arab leader, so stop exporting oil is not a valid solution now, that is why it was not mentioned.
i mentioned this as what they really suppose to do.
but their aren't that many ties between Israel and the whole of the Arab/Muslim world.
The new US administration has to have the balls to do some tough talking to the Israelis and tell them how there is going to be a Palestinian state, free of settlements, whether they like it or not. I can see the EU and the UN security council reinforcing this if the US takes the lead. In the long game now is not the time for the Arab nations to piss off the Americans, you will need them to establish a Palestinian State - no one else has that power over the Israelis.
Does that make sense?
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
Well done Emir! Its high time Israel learns how to live in peace with her neighbours instead of depending on muscle flexing with United States weapons...forget the idea of using force to subject/change the will of people; you can't live in peace by starving your neighbours. Hamas on the other hand should concentrate on building schools, hospitals, infrastructure with whatever aid they are getting... build a striving society with a very strong tourism sector instead of rockets. I pray the soeuls of the Matyrs; innocent children and women rest in perfect peace.
our leaders are the ones who we should boycott b4 isreal. they are the ones who give israel all the power it has and they are theones who stop us from moving and reacting and defending and speaking out the word of truth and justice.
i agree with you that Israel will not be affected alot because of cutting ties with qatar, but i think what qatar did is meant to effect arab leader to do the same.
"exporting oil altogether" - Sorry that could be read two ways, what I meant was stop exporting oil world wide, specifically to western countries in order to put pressure on the west. But this is not what today's summit even mentioned.
You are right, it is western support that Israel needs - Arab boycotts of Israel has very little or no leverage at all. This was my initial point - the Qatar tie cutting is gestural, it has no real impact on Israel at all.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
so you think arab and all what they can do will not effect the world.
i think its better if we respect each other.
I dont want to STOP the world, but the world will not go as good as its as now (if supposed its going in a good way now) without the western or without the arabs or without asia for example.
cutting of ties does not effect israel that much, israel will not go bankrupt next year because qatar has closed down its office here, its a symbol, its the least a country can do when 1100 people are brutally murdered....what will the protests around the world do...nothing, what will severing ties do, nothing, what will a un resolution do...nothing, what will aid money do...also nothing since it cant get their, but does that mean we do nothing and just watch a massacre happen before our eyes,
let me clear one thing, who told you that arab leaders want to help arabs.
i told you, we dont know what we can do.
and believe me Israel will vanish when western support stop.
while reading our history, i cry, because we used fuel as weapon to protect our self only once and the results was amazing. i dont think this will happen again with the existing leaders.
250 million dollars in aid, cutting of ties with israel and trying to arrange a summit to put pressure on israel to cease the gaza massacre, everything qatar could do to save gaza they did, they moved beyond the stage of support statements and back door dealings, unlike other gulf and arab nations.... with that said, their is no way a person can justify israel response on gaza, regardless of who is to blame for starting the war (and i will get back to that later) targeting civilian area's and UN schools, you need to be blind, or just plain stupid to see that as a justified responce, or even put the word justified in the same sentence of the idf or israel......its israel that started all this, they chose to blockade gaza, and deny them of food, water, electricity, petrol and medical supplies, they chose to build walls, and place checkpoints surrounding the city so that nothing can get in and out, israel has not won anything in this was, only way hamas was weakened is by killing of over a thousand of gazan civilians, as for their fighters, 20 rockets where fired today, and the whole point of this 21 day war was to stop those rockets...
so annc
get of your high horse, you are not seeing the side from the other perspective, cause you never saw the Palestinian perspective in the first place,
no offense taken. Your point would be valid if the arab oil producing nations stopped exporting oil altogether but they are not......some have just agreed to cut ties with israel where they existed in the first place....so again I ask - how does that affect Israel at all?
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
well iv just walked in from outside, it makes me so sad to see arabs still enjoying their coffee at starbucks and 10's of cars waiting to be served outside mcdonalds and kfc and pizza hut.....it just makes me so confused. are these people living in reality? do they see what we see? do they feel what we feel? or are we just imagining things:(
2nd i believe as most of my nation that if the world stop supporting Israel, it will be vanished or at least it will start respect its neighbors. and i dont think USA or europe will choose to support Israel and loose arab's petrol.
What i need to say that Arabs can apply a lot of pressure on all the world to push them to stop supporting Israel.
Also i want to say that i am not offending you, we are just sharing ideas.
Israel does not use Arab oil, a quick search found this, from Jeeves:
"Until recently, with a significant offshore natural gas discovery, Israel has had essentially no commercial fossil fuel resources of its own, and has been forced to depend almost exclusively on imports to meet its energy needs. Israel has attempted to diversify its supply sources and to utilize alternatives like solar and wind energy. Traditionally, Israel has relied on expensive, long-term contracts with nations like Mexico (oil), Norway (oil), the United Kingdom (oil), Australia (coal), South Africa (coal), and Colombia (coal) for its energy supplies."
What else you got to offer, as I said, I am as oppossed to the Israeli State's treatment of Palestine as you are but you cant use an embargo, of a product that Israel does not use, to alter anything.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
Good idea, but i dont think this will end blessing Israel.
Lets forget for a while about what happening now in Gaza. Let me tell you one thing only, between 2005 and 2008 ~ 10 Israeli were killed in other hand ~1000 Palestinian were killed.
All arab nation is requesting from their leaders to act to save Gaza, after today no body will accept any thing below what came out today, i dont know what Egypt, Jordan and KSA will say in Kuwait , and who will listen to them again if they didn't cut ties with isreal.
Adey, be sure that every body will suffer if arabs cut ties with him, esp gcc, you dont know what arab can do, and i dont blame you bcoz arabs also dont know their power.
does anyone see their side? the blood of all those poor people of Gaza is on the head of Hamas- NOT Israel
just what do all these righteous people think Israel should do, when their neighbors call for their destruction, state that all Jews should be killed, when Hamas send rockets into their towns on a daily basis. Yes, perhaps over reacting- but they put up with a lot for a long time. Hamas is to blame, and must accept responsibility for this disaster
SPEED.. you make me laugh... i really respect you as a QLVG leader.. wallah, you are doing a great job!.. but please, your comments show that you know very little or next to nothing about this subject... so, pleeeaase... do me a favor.. :)
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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Main article: United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine
UN partition plan, 1947
On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly, with a two-thirds majority international vote, passed the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181), a plan to resolve the Arab-Jewish conflict by partitioning the territory into separate Jewish and Arab states, with the Greater Jerusalem area (encompassing Bethlehem) coming under international control. Jewish leaders (including the Jewish Agency), accepted their portion of the plan, while Palestinian Arab leaders rejected it and refused to negotiate. Neighboring Arab and Muslim states also rejected the partition plan. The Arab community reacted violently after the Arab Higher Committee declared a strike and burned many buildings and shops. In a speech delivered on 25 March 1948, US President Truman recommended a temporary trusteeship and stated: We could not undertake to impose this solution on the people of Palestine by the use of American troops, both on Charter grounds and as a matter of national policy.[132] As armed skirmishes between Arab and Jewish paramilitary forces in Palestine continued, the British mandate ended on May 15, 1948, the establishment of the State of Israel having been proclaimed the day before (see Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel). The neighboring Arab states and armies (Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Transjordan, Holy War Army, Arab Liberation Army, and local Arabs) immediately attacked Israel following its declaration, and the 1948 Arab-Israeli War ensued. Consequently, the partition plan was never implemented.
Now I understand.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
If Qatar want to make, and feel it is, a postive gesture/action, then great. But believing that Israel will give a stuff or affect it in anyway is just self delusional I'm sorry to say.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
Even if its 'just a gesture' - it will send a message loud and clear to the world, that at least some arab states won't just sit there and let their brothers be bombed and their land stolen. I can't see this action by Qatar as anything other than wholly positive.
"Following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the 1949 Armistice Agreements between Israel and neighboring Arab states eliminated Palestine as a distinct territory. With the establishment of Israel, the remaining lands were divided amongst Egypt, Syria and Jordan. The Arab governments at this point refused to set up a State of Palestine.
The region as of today: Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights
In addition to the UN-partitioned area it was allotted, Israel captured 26% of the Mandate territory west of the Jordan river. Jordan captured and annexed about 21% of the Mandate territory, known today as the West Bank. Jerusalem was divided, with Jordan taking the eastern parts, including the Old City, and Israel taking the western parts. The Gaza Strip was captured by Egypt."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
I am no supporter of the Israeli State's treatment of the Palestinians and believe Palestine should be a free independent country(most likely back to the 67 border with all West bank settlements gone) but.....
Did the Israel suffer when no Arab nation had ties with it? - No
Will it suffer if all Arab nations again cut all ties? - No.
What Qatar and others are doing is a gesture, no more than that, it won't make a difference I'm afraid save to help the Arabs conscience.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
Could not be happier and glad to see one Arab country step up and take ACTION, hope all the rest follow. Given their flagrant disregard for human life and their total disrespect the Geneva Convention its a small act of solidarity. While Rice is playing kissy face with Tipsy Lipsy the Arab world is voicing their displeasure.
I don't know how you see Israel, but we should not forget that Israel is occupying the land which belongs to Palestinians... Palestinians are fighting for their Land, for Food, for Medicines, for Schools, and for FREEDOM ..
I think Israel state was declared in 1948, where was Israel before 1948? In these 50 years you can see the difference between the lifestyle of Israel and Palestine... One should open his eyes and read the history...
I am sure by suspending ties with Israel it will have a huge political impact on Israel and to it's supporters.
to say Hamas is weakened will be a misnomer. Very few of their leaders have been killed. If they are still able to fire rockets inspite of all the Israeli destruction, one just has to see what they still have.
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about the massacar in Gaza:
http://www.closedzone.com/
The difference between Israel and Palestine is democracy and oil. You have to have at least one of the 2 to be prosperous in this area and Palestine has neither. Shame on Israel for building on land they won in a treaty signed 40 years ago.
Sheihk Hamad is smarter than Barak Obama.
USA should break ties with israel as well.
just came across this and was a way to remember what has been happening.
http://israeliaggression.com/category/photos/
it's so easy to forget!
i agree and INSHA ALLAH they follow other arab country
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QATAR YOU MADE ME PROUD OF YOU!
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
Platao36,
I disagree with you about Hamas, the problem is 60 years old, its not about rockets and weapon contraband, weapon to those people is more important than food, you can live without food for few days but you can survive with Israel without weapon. you either die or loose your dignity.
those people dont have anybody to defend them, to you they may be fool but to us they are poor people trying to defend their families, any if anybody want to take their weapon and dignity let him go there and try...
And this propaganda about civilian separated from hamas thing is NOT correct at all, Hamas is from those families: sons, fathers, brothers and husbands. they didnt came from mars or something.
Aissa
Aissa: lol, exactly, because Hamas wasn't smart enough to understand that by refusing the 2 only requests that Israel was asking (no rockets + no weapon contraband), showed that they weren't interested in stopping the Israeli attacks just to be shown as victimes
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
they got 'scared' because Husni was 'serious'
hahaha, i read some of your comedy comments but this was the best, what the h-ll, why he didnt act as monster from the first day and scare Isreal and save lots of lives. wallah if your are serious then you have a serious problem.
I can understand that they stop war coz of qatar action, coz of world pressure, coz of any thing but not this.
even my small brother knew that Israel will stop war soon few days ago, they were adviertising it on the news. Got scared ha.
Aissa
"please do not forget the premeditated destruction of the Palestinian infrastructure including schools, state buildings, hospitals and mosques."
Than i guess that those budist statues, with thousands of years) in Afghanistan were destroyed by mistake by the Taliban, schools teaching girls were attacked by Taliban, radio/tv stations also destroyed by them, public executions, etc...
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Both states freezed their relations with Israel but not suspend. i think there semantic difference between these two terms.
I believe that Israel is not serious about anything, and it became more stubborn and pretentious after it killed more than 1500 Muslim Arab Palestinians from Children and women and elderly, with the sulk silence of Arabs, Muslims and International Community.
please do not forget the premeditated destruction of the Palestinian infrastructure including schools, state buildings, hospitals and mosques.
I believe that what Israel is doing has never happened in humanity history before, not less than thousands years ago (during uncivilized ages)
Israel declared unilateral cease fire, who do you guys think that made a fool out of themselves?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
many animal-lovers here in Qatar. Ask QAWS people!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
Israelis are animals
Now it's proven by actions not only "talking"
I wish ARABs to be reunited again and work for the best of all the Arab countries and all the humans
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Take care and have FUN
but the one I like the most is pineapple! Tasty and still helps you to burn fat, did you know that?
But I love Apple Juice and Blackberry Juice!
Why you all care that much? Just another war...
Wait for the next!
QATAR IS THE BEST
very good decision by Qatar govt:should follow other gcc also.i am proud working in Qatar
"jauntie said Ceasefire Conditions ...
Just saw this Breaking News on Sky.
Israel's conditions
1. Quit throwing rockets into Israel
2. Quit smuggling arms into Gaza
Hamas conditions
1. Get troups out of Gaza
2. Open Blockade
3. We don't accept Israel's conditions"
So, it seams that Hamas has choosen annihilation, now stop crying.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
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i agree with u dmigtysolomon.......
in any region, there wont be peace unless there is someone keep on provoking (whether it is from within or outside your region)
try to understand sit.com's humour
sit.com you are amazing
Suspending is not enough, at least they should cut completely.
In all cases Qatar is clear and honest better then other arabic countries
as long as Hamas is not changing tactics in provoking them, there will be no peace in that region!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
even if Israel declare a unilateral ceasefire, they will fight on regardless.
Now I truly don't understand what Hamas is about. The situation is just crazy.
coelacanth, it can be argued that hamas also responded with what ever means they have to israeli aggression, the whole reason the rockets where being launched was because israel even in the cease fire did not stop targeting hamas officials, and the blockade was never lifted, as for the human shield argument, i doubt the unrwa hospital and schools had any fighters in it, since media cameras where their 24/7 reporting live from that location, and that did not stop the idf from attacking it, lets for one second forget the systematic eradication of civilians in gaza, why is israel refusing to allow the media to film in gaza, why is israel blockading all forms of un aid and humans right watch officials from entering the troubled zone, and why is israel targeting the media.....its because the idf can not be shown in its true light, as a racist barbaric army, they prefer if hamas instead was portrayed as the aggressors.....i said it before, the argument for who started what is far too complex and both sides will not see the point of view from the other side....what i am trying to argue is, in this was, their is the IDF, and their is Hamas, IDF has used banned weapons against gaza, shelled civilian locations, and attacked UN and media institutions, close to 1200 dead over 5000 injured.... anyone claiming this is an equal response, has to get their heads out of their @#!'s and just look at the figures...i am an arab that grew up and lived in the states, the bias in the news media their is just sickening, here in the middle east you have acess to both sides of the story, you can get american channels, and pro palestinian channels, and some what neutral channels, before you go online spreading hate and theories, i invite a lot of you to actually see both sides of the story, israel is a reality and the arabs have to live with it, its here to stay and no amount of civil unrest and resistance will wipe it out, their people have no where to go, that said, the palestinians also have right to their land, and no amount of carnage and massacres will also push them out of their homes, its a stalemate, and the only thing israel is succeeding in doing is planting hatred in the majority of the Palestinians and the arabs
I may not agree with www.sit.com but I think he/she was speaking with tongue in his cheek and as a supporter of Hamas.
You are on the wrong track lol
Or is it me who read his/her comments the wrong way ....
Stupid.com , good you admited my compliment 'Mad dog", and offcourse there is whoever support bl_dy Israel.
even distinguish the difference between "profit" and "prophet" argue extensively about this topic? Arguing for an "oil embargo"? Who will suffer? Foolish idea, a drop in the price per barrel already affect the producers, what's more if they don't supply their main clients?
Yes, I agree with those who said that in the part of Qatar, it's a good gesture. Period!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
MR PAUL...but on the Gaza situation...the other countries are afraid to boycott Israel ....unless they already have no relation with it like Bahrain.
To boycott ties is putting the maximum diplomatic pressure. Of course they can resume ties after the situation has been rectified.
no doubt that qutting ties with isreal will not make any diffrence to isreal or its supporters, but it will sooth the agony of the Palestine sufferer knowing that their muslim brothers/sisters feel thier pain and thats the least they can do for them. May Allah unite the muslim nations, until we are untied the suffering of the muslim ummah will continue. How do we expect an outsider to help, if our own brothers are not willing to help!!!
Stupid.com , others are not stupid like you, they know the true world, you are a Mad dog supporting bl_dy Israel.
Stupid.com , r u a bl_dy Israel supporter, there is no use explaining truths & facts to you.
You also one of the Mad Dog,
Some times I feel Hamas works for the benifit of Israel...
I hate it when they say Hamas is FIGHTING.....the leaders are hiding & they are asking the kids to fight.
yep www.sit.com, sounds logical doesnt it
According to these two articles...
http://www.bilaterals.org/article.php3?id_article=2886
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1145961322869&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Plus, there are appeal stations in the malls to send money to gaza,plus the King said the Bahrain defence hospital is ready to recieve wounded gazans for treatment, so Qatar isnt the only country doing anything.....
"A man may fight for many things.His country,his friends,his principles,the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child.
But personally,I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sackful of porn."
Blackadder.
Just saw this Breaking News on Sky.
Israel's conditions
1. Quit throwing rockets into Israel
2. Quit smuggling arms into Gaza
Hamas conditions
1. Get troups out of Gaza
2. Open Blockade
3. We don't accept Israel's conditions
Jeez! I was doing OK with nodding in agreement until No. 3 came up. Then I burst out laughing!
Qatar has Balls....
.....that other Arab countries, GCC included doesnt have,....I guess the Emir called a meeting and he was dissappointed by the character of the Arab Leaders or their lack of it.
It is indeed great of Qatar to take a stand on this issue finally. I guess the rally did help in reassuring the Emir as of the compassion of the People of Qatar towards the Gaza issue.
It no longer matters who is right or wrong....what matters is the bloodshed has to stop.
The Palestians have been pushed back to the Stone Age....No schools, no hospitals,...No Postoffice.
Qatar has done right by suspending its ties with Israel over its disproportionate use of force. At least the Emir can sleep peacefully with his Conscience unlike the other Arab leaders.
Hamas wants support from Arab nations, to do this, "Let Israel slaughter our people so we get their attention (arab nations)" Who in his rightful thinking would put rocket launchers, mortars in between civilian houses that you know Israel Air Force will bomb it?
When Hamas militants bombed Israel, it was not a big deal. when Israel retaliated, it becomes political, and moreso, Religious. Hamas militants should think of their actions prior to attacking Israel. they are just using the civilians as shields so that Israel can be blamed for the bombing. It was not Israel who started the launching of rockets, it was Hamas militants. And Israel was not even warned that rockets will be fired at them. Israel warned Gaza that a rocket will be launched. Now, why point the finger on one party when they are at war? If Hamas is at the winning end, will there be a big news such as these? Suicide bombings in Israel prior, was it a big deal? Was it because Hamas is a Muslim, and is using religion as a tool to gain support from muslim countries? They are at war, and Hamas started it. they should be blamed for starting the war, and the effects of it. I hope this doesn't become another Afghanistan/Iraq where religion was used to gain supporters in their fight because this war was not triggered by Religion, but by politics. What was the treatment of Other countries to US after they destroyed IRAQ looking for "Weapons of Mass Destruction", and found NOTHING? US was PRAISED instead!!! How many children were killed then? How many women were raped by US Servicemen? How many civilians were executed? Aren't you guys being biased?
Don't get me wrong...i am not an Israeli, nor supports Israel. In every Action, there is ALWAYS an EQUAL and OPPOSITE REACTION. Someone bombed Israel, do you think Israel will be happy and sits around waiting for another rocket?
If Hamas stops the bombing, there will be ceasefire. If Israel stops retaliating, it will be wiped out of the face of the earth.
It's not because things are difficult that we don't dare, it's because we don't dare that makes things difficult!
good move QATAR..some1 should step up...
Time Changes Everything
Hope & Pray all arab nations will follow...
annc & sit.com dead Israels only good Israels, cammon, first of all your people learn atleast a basic history of Palestine, before you commenting. Think like human not like .....
Saudi,Egypt , PLO & Jordan are all over the news channels underestimating the Qatari decision
PLO leaders have openly criticized Qatar yesterday in Alarabia channel claiming that "freezing" the ties instead of permanently cutting all ties is not enough
Arab news channels have shifted its attention to the Arab split
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/01/16/64332.html
adey
well as Muslim and Arabic, Palestine is the 2nd important land to us after KSA. i will leave also now,it was good to chat with you,
and sorry if i offended anybody.
Aissa
and I love the country. You have your country, it is up to the Palestinians as to how they get theirs, And if that means accepting a reduced Israel then that is their choice, not yours. The trouble is that this desire to eradicate Israel(by non Palestinians) is keeping the palestinians from getting their homeland.
At the end of the day it doesn't effect me at all, but it will do no one any good to see this conflict go on for another 60 yrs. By then there will be nobody alive who were driven out of the 'old' Palestine. prehaps that is what it going to take for their to be peace - 1948 as ancient history.
Well I'm off to bed now, will continue if you want tomorrow.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
so "The world economy would collapse", and i dont think anybody can hold that, thats why i said the West will stop supporting Israel to avoid this.
I am really sad for your students, i am sure they are very bad in reading other ideas, i told you if you read by all my comments, you would not posted your comment.
i prefer not to go with you to the personal level, because i really respect what your professional is about, and i am sure that your are nice person when your are not attacking me :)
Aissa
adey,
No im Lebanese and was born in Lebanon, we had some experience with Israeli civilization!! , im here from two years only, and yes i will return to my beautiful country any time :)
Aissa
Well done, God bless you
but they didnt understand that.
Aissa
qatarisun,
to me his is profit, but this is not the point.
Israel kick Palestinians out of their land and destroyed their cities,then they brought jews from all around the word to build Israel, you can not compare German to Israel.
Professor,
please, you also dont know this?
Aissa
I understand how you feel, you are pro Palestinian, I'm pro Palestinian, it's just that we disagree on the method to achieve a Palistinian State. And I feel it is unrealistic to expect Israel to vanish. And it's the majority view that will achieve peace not the minority view.
A few questions for you - I assume you are from a Palestinian family, where were you born? how long have you been in Qatar? Would you leave your birth home, or Qatar, for good if you had the right to return?
I only ask as most Palestinians I know would not return as they have never been there and have comfortable lives else where.
The Palestinians that count most are the ones living there now, the wishes of the Palestinian diaspora are of secondary concern.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
1. Jesus is Son of God.
2. ALL FIVE brothers of my grandmother along with other 20 MLN. people of my country of origin were killed by Germanys during WW2. Does it mean Germany has no rights to exist and should be eliminated?
*********************
“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Professor,
none on this earth can hold his lifestyle, oil is o2 for our life now. why you think USA send its troops to this area, to protect arabs??!! i think to protect the oil.
as for your education level, i think you should know that moreover shouldnt you teach people how to respect others ideas.
Aissa
I agree with your point.. time will prove u right my friend.. and Israel is never there to stay, it will vanish sooner or later… Inshalla.
Great gesture from Qatar to suspend ties with Israel.. Hope that suspension stays for ever..
I told you most of the world disagree with me at this point, but this doesnt mean im wrong.
how many supported Jesus at his time, but time proved that he and his supporters were right and not the rest of the world.
And time will prove if this is wrong.
And sorry i can not get used to consider the killer of my family and lots of others families, to be there to stay.
I dont blame you for what you think since none of your family was killed by Israel.
note: i am not putting myself in the level of Jesus, he is profit and im nobody compared to him.
Aissa
Sorry to tell you this my friend but Israel is here to stay, the very best the Palestinians can do(and this is supported by the majority of Palestinians that actually live in the occupied territories) is a two state solution. I believe and hope that Obama actually realises that the key to the so called 'war on terrorism' & 'clash of civilisations' is the Palestinian issue.I think he realises it's that important and I hope he will give Israel some tough talking.
The US is the key, as you haven't said anymore as to how the Arab nations are going to overcome Israel.
The Palestinians want a country and peace, and for that one has to be practical not ideological and accepting that there is a place called Israel whether you like it or not.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
who told you that if they stop it , it will stay for ever like that, and who told you if arab stop exporting oil you can hold your lifestyle, if you read all my comments you would not post your insulting comment.
in past arabs only minimized the amount of fuel, and the results were amazing.
with all my respect, try to respect others.
Aissa
some how, but i believe what was taken by force, shall be returned by force.
and i dont think USA will help in building Palestine state, if that was the situation we would not be chatting here .
besides i dont consider Israel a country, they are invaders and they will always be. and yes i know that most of the world disagree with me.
Aissa
May be your are not updated with what is happening in Gaza, i have at least full 4 hours every day for more than one year to listen to news about Gaza or reading them.
I believe Gaza now is under war from Israel and lot of arab leader, so stop exporting oil is not a valid solution now, that is why it was not mentioned.
i mentioned this as what they really suppose to do.
but i still support Qatar for this action.
Aissa
O Allah , make victorious the fighters of Gaza over the infidels"Jews"and their allies"the Americans" Who support them to kill our children
Ameen
but their aren't that many ties between Israel and the whole of the Arab/Muslim world.
The new US administration has to have the balls to do some tough talking to the Israelis and tell them how there is going to be a Palestinian state, free of settlements, whether they like it or not. I can see the EU and the UN security council reinforcing this if the US takes the lead. In the long game now is not the time for the Arab nations to piss off the Americans, you will need them to establish a Palestinian State - no one else has that power over the Israelis.
Does that make sense?
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Well done Emir! Its high time Israel learns how to live in peace with her neighbours instead of depending on muscle flexing with United States weapons...forget the idea of using force to subject/change the will of people; you can't live in peace by starving your neighbours. Hamas on the other hand should concentrate on building schools, hospitals, infrastructure with whatever aid they are getting... build a striving society with a very strong tourism sector instead of rockets. I pray the soeuls of the Matyrs; innocent children and women rest in perfect peace.
our leaders are the ones who we should boycott b4 isreal. they are the ones who give israel all the power it has and they are theones who stop us from moving and reacting and defending and speaking out the word of truth and justice.
i agree with you that Israel will not be affected alot because of cutting ties with qatar, but i think what qatar did is meant to effect arab leader to do the same.
Aissa
abuimad, dont forget that what qatar did will help other arab leader to remember that they are alive and they can do something about this crime.
i believe that we can do a lot but without the current leaders.
i liked your previous comment.
Aissa
"exporting oil altogether" - Sorry that could be read two ways, what I meant was stop exporting oil world wide, specifically to western countries in order to put pressure on the west. But this is not what today's summit even mentioned.
You are right, it is western support that Israel needs - Arab boycotts of Israel has very little or no leverage at all. This was my initial point - the Qatar tie cutting is gestural, it has no real impact on Israel at all.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Adey,
so you think arab and all what they can do will not effect the world.
i think its better if we respect each other.
I dont want to STOP the world, but the world will not go as good as its as now (if supposed its going in a good way now) without the western or without the arabs or without asia for example.
Aissa
cutting of ties does not effect israel that much, israel will not go bankrupt next year because qatar has closed down its office here, its a symbol, its the least a country can do when 1100 people are brutally murdered....what will the protests around the world do...nothing, what will severing ties do, nothing, what will a un resolution do...nothing, what will aid money do...also nothing since it cant get their, but does that mean we do nothing and just watch a massacre happen before our eyes,
aissa: Just much as they do everywhere they have shops
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Platao36 :
i think sally mention "starbucks , mcdonalds and kfc and pizza hut" because they support Israel
right sally?
Aissa
Adey,
let me clear one thing, who told you that arab leaders want to help arabs.
i told you, we dont know what we can do.
and believe me Israel will vanish when western support stop.
while reading our history, i cry, because we used fuel as weapon to protect our self only once and the results was amazing. i dont think this will happen again with the existing leaders.
Aissa
250 million dollars in aid, cutting of ties with israel and trying to arrange a summit to put pressure on israel to cease the gaza massacre, everything qatar could do to save gaza they did, they moved beyond the stage of support statements and back door dealings, unlike other gulf and arab nations.... with that said, their is no way a person can justify israel response on gaza, regardless of who is to blame for starting the war (and i will get back to that later) targeting civilian area's and UN schools, you need to be blind, or just plain stupid to see that as a justified responce, or even put the word justified in the same sentence of the idf or israel......its israel that started all this, they chose to blockade gaza, and deny them of food, water, electricity, petrol and medical supplies, they chose to build walls, and place checkpoints surrounding the city so that nothing can get in and out, israel has not won anything in this was, only way hamas was weakened is by killing of over a thousand of gazan civilians, as for their fighters, 20 rockets where fired today, and the whole point of this 21 day war was to stop those rockets...
so annc
get of your high horse, you are not seeing the side from the other perspective, cause you never saw the Palestinian perspective in the first place,
life goes on. You can't stop the world.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Aissa: i guess sally reply will clarify what i mean
Mcdonalds/kfc/pizza hut/Mercedes/BMW/Bentley/Ford/Zara//Pierre Cardin, etc.... all belong to the western world.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
no offense taken. Your point would be valid if the arab oil producing nations stopped exporting oil altogether but they are not......some have just agreed to cut ties with israel where they existed in the first place....so again I ask - how does that affect Israel at all?
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
i think alot of us did hear about Gandhi.
This is really sad.
Aissa
Now suspended ones :)
Aissa
well iv just walked in from outside, it makes me so sad to see arabs still enjoying their coffee at starbucks and 10's of cars waiting to be served outside mcdonalds and kfc and pizza hut.....it just makes me so confused. are these people living in reality? do they see what we see? do they feel what we feel? or are we just imagining things:(
At least their would be some kind of balance; moreover west do need arabs fuel.
Aissa
Aissa
Israel is using Egyptian gas,
2nd i believe as most of my nation that if the world stop supporting Israel, it will be vanished or at least it will start respect its neighbors. and i dont think USA or europe will choose to support Israel and loose arab's petrol.
What i need to say that Arabs can apply a lot of pressure on all the world to push them to stop supporting Israel.
Also i want to say that i am not offending you, we are just sharing ideas.
Aissa
Pet'r Oil
Before you came it was dark everywhere
The world was empty and dull, I wonder why
I searched everywhere for sweet light
For a flame that would warm my heart
When you came, as if a sun has dawned
Illuminating my day and night, my life was wonderful
Now, all of a sudden, everything has changed
Without you, life is difficult and hard
Lovely pet'r oil, sweet pet'r oil
I need you now, pet'r oil
Lovely pet'r oil, sweet pet'r oil
I need you now, pet'r oil
In the beginning, pet'r oil, in the end pet'r oil
Now my reigns are in your hands, pet'r oil
In the beginning, pet'r oil, in the end pet'r oil
Now my reigns are in your hands, pet'r oil
You are so proud, I can't come close to you
I wonder who else suffers from your love
You speak of nothing but dollars and marks
I am so suffering because of you
Aissa: Not only them, do belive me that they would suffer too, without the western support
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Israel does not use Arab oil, a quick search found this, from Jeeves:
"Until recently, with a significant offshore natural gas discovery, Israel has had essentially no commercial fossil fuel resources of its own, and has been forced to depend almost exclusively on imports to meet its energy needs. Israel has attempted to diversify its supply sources and to utilize alternatives like solar and wind energy. Traditionally, Israel has relied on expensive, long-term contracts with nations like Mexico (oil), Norway (oil), the United Kingdom (oil), Australia (coal), South Africa (coal), and Colombia (coal) for its energy supplies."
What else you got to offer, as I said, I am as oppossed to the Israeli State's treatment of Palestine as you are but you cant use an embargo, of a product that Israel does not use, to alter anything.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Imagine the world without Arab's petrol.
i still have more if you want.
Aissa
yes of course, stability on that area is very important to everybody, esp to USA and Europe. this area have the black gold.
NB: if you mean by that area: the middle east.
Aissa
annc,
Good idea, but i dont think this will end blessing Israel.
Lets forget for a while about what happening now in Gaza. Let me tell you one thing only, between 2005 and 2008 ~ 10 Israeli were killed in other hand ~1000 Palestinian were killed.
please tell me who should i blame.
Aissa
Aissa: You shouldn't expect much from the meeting. They all know how important is the stability on that area
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
What do think will happen? What will the result be and how will It be achieved? You may have valid points that I have not taken into consideration.
:)
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
All arab nation is requesting from their leaders to act to save Gaza, after today no body will accept any thing below what came out today, i dont know what Egypt, Jordan and KSA will say in Kuwait , and who will listen to them again if they didn't cut ties with isreal.
This exactly what Qatar did.
God bless Qatar.
Aissa
Adey, be sure that every body will suffer if arabs cut ties with him, esp gcc, you dont know what arab can do, and i dont blame you bcoz arabs also dont know their power.
Aissa
They'll sign peace treaty and if they respect it, soon, all countries will have normal relations again, like i said, it's all politics
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
does anyone see their side? the blood of all those poor people of Gaza is on the head of Hamas- NOT Israel
just what do all these righteous people think Israel should do, when their neighbors call for their destruction, state that all Jews should be killed, when Hamas send rockets into their towns on a daily basis. Yes, perhaps over reacting- but they put up with a lot for a long time. Hamas is to blame, and must accept responsibility for this disaster
May Allah bless Qatar for taking such a bold step (Aameen!)
Thankyou sir, but I have my screwball moments as well(and hurray for that!)
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
SPEED.. you make me laugh... i really respect you as a QLVG leader.. wallah, you are doing a great job!.. but please, your comments show that you know very little or next to nothing about this subject... so, pleeeaase... do me a favor.. :)
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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
But it thrived and continued to live the last time there were no ties between Arab nations and Israel.
What you wish for and what really happens don't always coincide.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
speed, you are totaly wrong. excuse me for that
soniya. said "hope will suspends ties with US also."
You are joking, right?
Adey - head well screwed on there.
Did you Google it first?
of Arabs and Muslim world Israel cannot live longer and that is the fact which Israel knows very well.
I feel that now Israel will regret his action in Gaza.
Every good person will stand with the 'Truth' not the with the falsehood....
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Panda: Maybe, but for now dreaming still doesn't pay a tax ;)
After signing it, will be time for the world to unite and help Palestinian to rebuild and send a multinational force to control border.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
UN partition
Main article: United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine
UN partition plan, 1947
On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly, with a two-thirds majority international vote, passed the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181), a plan to resolve the Arab-Jewish conflict by partitioning the territory into separate Jewish and Arab states, with the Greater Jerusalem area (encompassing Bethlehem) coming under international control. Jewish leaders (including the Jewish Agency), accepted their portion of the plan, while Palestinian Arab leaders rejected it and refused to negotiate. Neighboring Arab and Muslim states also rejected the partition plan. The Arab community reacted violently after the Arab Higher Committee declared a strike and burned many buildings and shops. In a speech delivered on 25 March 1948, US President Truman recommended a temporary trusteeship and stated: We could not undertake to impose this solution on the people of Palestine by the use of American troops, both on Charter grounds and as a matter of national policy.[132] As armed skirmishes between Arab and Jewish paramilitary forces in Palestine continued, the British mandate ended on May 15, 1948, the establishment of the State of Israel having been proclaimed the day before (see Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel). The neighboring Arab states and armies (Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Transjordan, Holy War Army, Arab Liberation Army, and local Arabs) immediately attacked Israel following its declaration, and the 1948 Arab-Israeli War ensued. Consequently, the partition plan was never implemented.
Now I understand.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
you dream platao!
I just hope this is the last cease fire i hear about, lets hope this is definitly ends war amongst them and finnally peace reaches it.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Got to agree with PM.. I'm sure a ceasefire will be in effect soon, but the damage has been done, Hamas is weakened already..
SPEED,
"One should open his eyes and read the history...!!"
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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
If Qatar want to make, and feel it is, a postive gesture/action, then great. But believing that Israel will give a stuff or affect it in anyway is just self delusional I'm sorry to say.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Even if its 'just a gesture' - it will send a message loud and clear to the world, that at least some arab states won't just sit there and let their brothers be bombed and their land stolen. I can't see this action by Qatar as anything other than wholly positive.
Adey: Agreeded, i do think that this is only a politic act, and as coincidence, it happens when Israel is about to accept the cease fire proposal.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ
عانيتُ
Great Qatar, and Thanks Qatar for suspending ties with Israel. hope will suspends ties with US also.
"Following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the 1949 Armistice Agreements between Israel and neighboring Arab states eliminated Palestine as a distinct territory. With the establishment of Israel, the remaining lands were divided amongst Egypt, Syria and Jordan. The Arab governments at this point refused to set up a State of Palestine.
The region as of today: Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights
In addition to the UN-partitioned area it was allotted, Israel captured 26% of the Mandate territory west of the Jordan river. Jordan captured and annexed about 21% of the Mandate territory, known today as the West Bank. Jerusalem was divided, with Jordan taking the eastern parts, including the Old City, and Israel taking the western parts. The Gaza Strip was captured by Egypt."
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
I am no supporter of the Israeli State's treatment of the Palestinians and believe Palestine should be a free independent country(most likely back to the 67 border with all West bank settlements gone) but.....
Did the Israel suffer when no Arab nation had ties with it? - No
Will it suffer if all Arab nations again cut all ties? - No.
What Qatar and others are doing is a gesture, no more than that, it won't make a difference I'm afraid save to help the Arabs conscience.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
hopefully that the impact will not be negative.
Speed, they are everywhere my friend everywhere...
Could not be happier and glad to see one Arab country step up and take ACTION, hope all the rest follow. Given their flagrant disregard for human life and their total disrespect the Geneva Convention its a small act of solidarity. While Rice is playing kissy face with Tipsy Lipsy the Arab world is voicing their displeasure.
Here here SPEED! Well said.
I'm soooooooo proud to be living and working in Qatar!!!
comments in my thread, so i would reply here.
I don't know how you see Israel, but we should not forget that Israel is occupying the land which belongs to Palestinians... Palestinians are fighting for their Land, for Food, for Medicines, for Schools, and for FREEDOM ..
I think Israel state was declared in 1948, where was Israel before 1948? In these 50 years you can see the difference between the lifestyle of Israel and Palestine... One should open his eyes and read the history...
I am sure by suspending ties with Israel it will have a huge political impact on Israel and to it's supporters.
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Start praying and making do3a to qatar, Ahmee qatar ya rab
to say Hamas is weakened will be a misnomer. Very few of their leaders have been killed. If they are still able to fire rockets inspite of all the Israeli destruction, one just has to see what they still have.
Better late than never.
PM: "There will be a ceasefire within 3 days, insha'Allah, and it won't be because of trade offices and diplomatic ties."
I was thinking something similar.
According to the newspaper 1 of the Hamas political leaders was killed yesterday.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
countries follow suit
Deftly put PM, couldnt have put it better, so I wont try.
Welllllll done, I love you Qatarrrrrrrrr for the Sake of Allah
Bravoooooooooo Bashar Al Assadd
Great News :-) hope Egypt and Jordan follows the same !
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