Ezdan tragedy inside the Gym
By KellysHeroes •
Good morning all.
Was informed that one of the residents got heart attack yesterday while practicing at the treadmill inside the health club. There was nobody there to give first aid as required in such cases. The poor guy passed away.
The martyr of fitness and carelessness.
In my tower there is a full time instructor in the gym, the trouble is you never see him!!
just eat another pie
I wonder where HotBoss works Kellys? hehehehe
We are in the midst of greatness aren't we Kellys, lolll!!!
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Regarding this unfortunate incident:
1 - He had previously undergone open heart surgery, and should not have been on the treadmill.
2 - He was fasting (which may have been an accelerator)
3 - A doctor was present from the moment he collapsed
4 - The Life Guards performed, under supervision of the doctor, CPR until the ambulance arrived. The paramedics used the defibrillator for over an hour, unfortunately in vain.
This was a case of sudden death from cardiac arrest.
KellyHeroes, before you start a topic get your facts together. Don't talk about things you do not understand.
britexpat theres no call for sports bras over here...most of the birds wouldn't know a tit if they fell over one! Well, err..now if we're talking about blokes thats a different kettle of fish...
she's suppose to help the guy, not kill him...;-p
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
But for some 'retarded' reasons in Qatar, in conclusion they all say he died because of either watching an India vs. Pakistan cricket match or a Al Saad vs. Dukhan football match or...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
Wear a halter neck and you'll give him a heart attack just watching you :o)
mmmmm, if one is paying an exorbitant amount for a gym membership, then make sure there is someone trained in CPR there! I'll do it for a 'nominal fee' but don't expect me to wear a polo top....doesn't do with big boobs!!
what were you doing there? thought you are having a "cannibal orientation/crash course"
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We all know that gym management does not guarantee the survival of its members and visitors and we are not arguing if its the deceased time or know. At least there is a minimum to be done in this regard. Injuries and accidents are expected in such facilities and the management is obliged to provide first aid till the professional assistance is available.Problem is both things were not availale.
Those who have heart attacks usually do not pass away instantly. They have sufficient time to be rescued then after a while they say bye bye if not handled properly of if their case is very severe..
Again I wonder. Four adjacent towers (sort of hotel appartments) and a swimming pool and a gym and no nursing personnel? I do not find any logic here.
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brit, now that's sad!!!!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/10/2330318.htm?section=sport
"Your born, You Live, You Die, given this premise, one can conclude since we have no control over when we are born and when we die, the only thing that matters to us should be how we live, simple really?" Mis-Cat to her philosophy Lecturer.
A 27 y.o died this year running the "City to Surf" in Sydney this year . He had a heart attack 200m from the finish line and has been a registered runner in the event since 1995.
"Your born, You Live, You Die, given this premise, one can conclude since we have no control over when we are born and when we die, the only thing that matters to us should be how we live, simple really?" Mis-Cat to her philosophy Lecturer.
How do you know it wasn't you?
You could be in heaven and this could be the parallel universe where an identical QL exists..
If it's a membership gym, then yes, there should be instuctors and trained staff on hand, but if its at the towers or the compounds, sorry, equipment is used at your own risk, and there are notices saying that....
"if you don't like the heat... get out of the kitchen... but stop trying to fan the flames before you leave... it will burn you on the a** as you go through the doorway...." ME
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"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
poor guy that is very sad news. i suppose the good news is it wasn't me, yes i'm still here guys.
I visited the gym last week to look into a membership. For almost $2,000 dollars for a single gym membership per year I would expect that they would have someone qualified in basic first aid.
Unfortunately, just like everything else here, there's NO value for money. No wonder when I asked they only had approx. 100 members.
Personally I wouldn't want a supervisor in a compound gym. 9 times out of 10 I'm the only person in the gym and I wouldn't want some dude sitting there staring at me.
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The swimming pool at ET is always supervised with lifeguards in my experience...!
Wouldn't make sense to not supervise a gym as they have people there to work out fitness programs & supervise/monitor etc
If they hadn't been, they will be immediately I'd guess..
tallg & GYPSY, i agree.
Whilst in Saudi, we were playing Basketball one day and a Filipino colleague suddenly fell over.. Had a heart attack and died on the spot..No one could do anything..
I'm fairly certain it won't be considered Ezdan Tower's fault. That would be like saying if he had a heart attack in his apartment it would be their fault as well because there wasn't someone on hand to help him.
A gym in an apartment block isn't like a gym you pay money to go to. It's there for the residents' convenience. Sure, it would be great if they had supervisors there, but most don't.
I really don't see how this was the gyms fault. Even if there had been people their he may still have died. Heart attacks happen.
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of the deceased. If not ET then I'm still sad.
On the few occasions I've gone into the ET gym to look around thinking about just when I'm going to summon the courage to 'do something' I've never noticed an absence of staff.
I know the Health club manager, so will I'm sure find out more details....., unless he's no longer there....
Respectfully,
Torque (saddened)
@kelly,
What should happen and what happens around the world are two different things.
Gym rooms are basically shared common room facilities.
They are not actual gyms with instructors and so on in most cases.
In the UK, my apartment building clearly said, "Use of the gym is at your own risk."
But yeah, for the price you pay, you expect someone there :P
However in most cases, I never expect anyone to be there.
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i just went home from all morning meeting with Ezdan CEO..i met several people of the management today..but nobody mentioned anything about it..everyone just cool.
Anyway..My condolences for the guy. This is bad that nobody help him ..shud be some people in the gym and watch around...no joke!
since rent somehow based on what the ameneties available, the management should consider hiring staff/personnel not only for upkeep and maintenance.
It's a known protocol to have a physician check-up before doing strenous (spellcheck) exercise.
Back in the Philippines when I worked as a GEN.SERVICES/HOUSEKEEPING MANAGER for a condominium tower (similar to BEVERLY HILLS TOWERS et al), we have to provide 2 (alternating) gym trainers during the gym's opened hours (7AM - 12MN). Their salaries are take from association dues which ALL TENANTS pay to the Condominium Management for the upkeep of the facilities (common areas) outside their unit.
What I noticed here in Doha, the condo towers'and compund gyms are well maintained by cleaners but no one there to assist the gym users.
This can also be a WAKE-UP CALL for the management to look into this "concern" since renting a house/villa in a compound is quite expensive
In my opinion only....
(P.S. edited comment...oops)
now it is turning out to be the gym client's mistake that he died.
OK, everyone should see the doctor before exercising. BUT. There should be some sort of nursing/medical infrastructure within the facility.
Besides, the customer should be very aware of everything, specially when it comes to health/life/death
If you check the ad. today in Gulf Times, half a page on the 2nd page. You will think it is a fully equipped gym facility. Fully equipped does not mean only hardware and some decoration.
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Azi, you are right, everyone should go to the doctor before engaging in any exercise.
Plus, having a heart rate monitor helps as well.
before engaging in any exercise?
We all could look healthy as we don't feel anything but sometimes, there might be underlying problems we are not aware of.
Baldrick is right, gym buddy would be nice...having someone there in ANY case...
"gym buddy with first-aid know-how",..more like it...
Gym Buddy.
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The trobule with gyms in compounds and apartment buildings is they are treated like home gyms, so there is no requirement to have a trained professional in attendance at all. Hence the use at your own risk policy.
"Your born, You Live, You Die, given this premise, one can conclude since we have no control over when we are born and when we die, the only thing that matters to us should be how we live, simple really?" Mis-Cat to her philosophy Lecturer.
exactly....
condolence to the family... so sad..all along i thought gyms have staff who knows at least first aid.
its fitness at your risk...tsk...tsk..tsk...
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I would like to know which Ezdan? is it Ezdan Tower or Alwakra Compound.
If the mistake is ours as you indicate, then what is the purpose of a gym?
we could buy the equipment we like and keep it at home. That will be more convenient and less costly.
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condolences in the family! life is too short so live the life to the fullest!
that is why before even thinking about doing regular visits to the gym, it is important to have our body assessed, healthwise, for us to know our limits/capacity based on our ages..
Tragedies like these occur regularly. We have to be aware of our own limits..
How old was this guy ?, was he overweight etc, was he fasting??
Having said all that, I would expect somewhere like Ezdan to have an attendent on duty during all the hours the gym is open..
i know... and it's sad that they wont do something about it.. it's because of these people that patronize their services that their business is thriving so well and they cant even return the favor by at least having qualified trainers/staff to watch over them.. :(
that is just sad to hear.....
Not sure what the law is (here or in the UK) but gyms in compounds and residential blocks often don't have a member of staff present. They usually just say that patrons use the equipment at their own risk.
there should always be a trained professional to guide people who work out in gyms, as well as medical personnel to give immediate aid for instances like these..it's like being in a pool or beach, where there should always be lifeguards on duty...
So if someone gets a heart attack, he should die without a chance for any sort of assistance?
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In my gym in my apartment in England (managed by Barratts one of Englands largest developers) there was never a gym trainer or anyone at all to watch over.
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They have an ad. today in the newspapers about their facilities. They should have the slogan "Cardio-hell" death guranateed with first heart attack
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Is this Ezdan Towers or Ezdan in Wakra ?
he probably had been on the treadmill too long...
Sad event. may he rest in peace..
This is one reason why i refuse to exercise..
Ohhh it is very sad to know...
It is a tragedy...so sad...
I personally experienced the situation. had discomfort and pain on my chest during the workout at the gym and rushed to HMC emergency. ECG, blood, echo . Xray was fine but my BP was too high at 199/130. Now under medication and its normal.
Even ma doctor doesnt knwo wht triggerd it. I never had BP . no heriditory too.Had my routine checks in april 2007 and everything was normal.
THIS WARNS US TO HAVE A COMPLETE CHECK ATLEAST ONCE IN 6 MONTHS.
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