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Yes of course :) you are a lucky man

Hello, I just found out that the first company has sent me a business visa & not a work permit visa.

Now the question arises the second company can issue a work permit visa? I guess or they may also issue a business visa that I'm not aware of at this time.

In view of the above based on say both the companies first & second have sent a business visa am in a sitaution that I can select between the above.

Thanks

1st company has to cancel your visa and give you NOC which will not happen I am affraid ;(

How can the second company obtain visa where already the first company has issued the visa to me?

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Tell them that an another company has already obtained the visa for you and see what is their reaction. Tell them the company name and see wheter they can negotiate with the 2nd co. sometimes connections work wonders here :)

Hello Charansoil11r, So what shall I do then. I have not joined the first company as of yet  and the second company has offered me a better package.

Its seems that I'm in a very funny situation.  What shall I mention to the second company, can they help.

Thanks

It is imposible to get NOC :( No matter where you sign the Contract, the Arabic version prevails over the Engligh version:(

Is it easy to get NOC. 

I have asked the company to forward me the contract so far no news from them.

Do I need to sign the contract in Qatar or they need to send that to me.

Prettiecattie is in worst shape to answer you. Her husband was terminated and they sent him packing last week :(

Hello Prettiecattie, Can you also please comment.

Your Name is already in Immigration Computers. You have no choice

I don't get it, I'm not in Qatar & the 1st company will give me NOC.

Thanks

You will not be issued a visa until the 1st company gives you NOC.:(

Hello Prettiecattie

The first company which has already issued me a visa, can it create any problems.

How the second company will get a visa for me where the Qatar visa authority has already issued one in my name.

Thanks & your reply will be highly appreciated.

its ok if you accept the offer from other company.. its better!

I am extremely sorry, the preceeding question was meant for somebody else,

I gave a telephone interview on 26th feb but no call still. Can you tell me how many days after the tele interview did you get the call to qatar. Thanks

Hello,

I just received a visa from one company from Qatar & at the same time I have recieved a better offer from another company.

Kindly let me know the procedure as per Qatar visa regulations. Can I go with the company which has offered me more.

Thanks

What kind of an accomodation can you get for 14000/- per month

that that it would be necessary, but go for the one that is more suitable 

for you. 

It's always the small things that make big differences.

Kalyan u r talking about an indian school not an american school. The lowest

fee for an american school is around 1500 riyals a month.  

It's always the small things that make big differences.

Hello,

I just received a visa from one company from Qatar & at the same time I have recieved a better offer from another company.

Kindly let me know the procedure as per Qatar visa regulations. Can I go with the company which has offered me more.

Thanks

Just check with Q-Tell service 180. I don't want to spoon feed you.

Hello

Can you e-mail me telephone # or e-mail address of Ms. Marina of Key resources.

Thanks

LJ - which field you are in?

Wrong Place sorry ;(

i salute you..

My sympathy is with you. I'm having dilemma about this issues too.

"Fascinated with Supercars but can’t afford it yet, so I settle down for a humble Jeepney, proudly Philippine made."

Ironically their Founder Member was a part of FIDIC Team :(

Thanks for the heads up.

Stay Safe. 

Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?

RR - I have. We engaged them for one of our project and they totally messed the thing up. Terminated the services.

Except that they are our neighbours and their sign said Project Management.

Stay safe all.

Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?

Gardiner & Theobald....They not Project Management Co. They are a QS Consulting Co. and really bad at what they do :)

All are not American / European Firm but they do hire them 

PMC's

1. Projacs

2. Arab Engineering Bereau

3. Dar Al Handasah

4. Nespak

5. Hill International

Consultants

1. Qatar Design Consortium

2. Parsons

3. WS Atkins & Partners Onerseas

4. KEO

5. URS Qatar

And contact Ms. Marina of Key Resources. She has a lot of Vacancies to fill.

Importnat - Don't mention my name and QL . You wll loose your chance instantly :) 

To our office is a Project Management firm named Gardiner & Theobald....I  think they are a UK firm because most of their senior staff is british.

Hope that helps.

Stay safe.

Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?

Hello

Could you please name any european or american electrical consulting or project managers firms operating in Qatar.

Thanks

Hello

I accepted their offer but have not received any signed document from their end plus have not received a contract document either but they're in the process of getting a visa. Can I still negotiate?

Thanks

if your company will not give you a release no chance plus if you dont have firends that connected with powerful people no chance really.. so better look for another company..

now u can change the sponsor witout leaving the country, thats what i read in gulf-times.thanks

No chance of changing companies here:(

Hello

What are the prospects if I accept this job of project manager in Qatar & within couple of months I can search for other companies who pay more.

The question arises is it easy to switch from one company to another.

Thanks

We are also constantly looking for people. you can send your C.V. to me. I will pass it to some people.

Thanks everyone. All of you have been great help.

i dont know i thought your a project manager for construction company.. charan.. we get along well.. hehehe.. try MEP company qatar2 as charan said.. but i will pm you the email add and website.. maybe they need your expertise also.

Your speciality is in Electro Mechanical Field. Try some MEP Consultants and contractors.

Try Voltas. they are looking for people high and low ;)

Hello Prettiecattie

Thanks for your detailed information. Please forward e-mail address of former employer.

I am basically a project manager for security & life safety systems, i.e., managing complex integrated network fire alarm systems/IP-CCTV/Access Control Systems/BMS. I don't have any clue of salary in Qatar.

Thanks again.

Ok Correction. The co. Name is Pancelxxcx and you husband's name is A H.

ok.. agree to you but on my opinion and my husbands opinion it is really a small offer for a project manager. if qatar2 had an experienced on the job why take that offer?.. it better to look for another company who will provide a good salary..

the company where i came from the project manager.. is getting like 34k QAR, a villa of amounting 23k QAR with swimingpool and a garden, 4wd which is nissan aramada.. plus bonuses and medical plus family is here..

i dont know maybe it depends with the company..

friendly advice qatar2.. you still have lot of chance to find for a good company which offers a good compensation.. pm me i will give you the eamil address of my previous employer.. mybe they will need aconstruction manager now.

Prettie Cattie: your computation is very wrong he is a westener.. so most probably he

spend more than that.. the offer is to small for a project manager

specially hi s canadian..

That was your comment. You implied that the offer is too small especially since he was Canadian. There could be only two ways of looking at it:

1. You are implying that Canadians deserve more than the others because of some reason. or

2. You are just stating the fact that this is the prevalent scenario in Qatar, that Canadians are offered more than the others.

I take it that it is the second case. Let us make peace.

In any case I believe that the offer is a little low. It also depends on the nature of the work. Project Manager is a little vague term. If it is management of a low-value project then the salaries are bound to be a litle on the lower side.

Hi Qatar2, negotiate harder. Looking at what is happening in the west - job sheddings in the US and so on - negotiate carefully and don't let it go out of hand.

"Life is like a bicycle, if it's too easy - you're probably going down :)"

Bill Finger Berger is the Main Contractor for Barwa Housing at Abu Hamour. You must be very naive to believe that I am getting a Salary of QR 5000 a month :)

BTW - In our organization Construction Manager comes below my level irrespective of Canadian or Asian.

im not here to fight ok.. if you have some problems with salaries or what or jealous let it go.. i've got nothing to do with it..

Bill finger is not a subcon of barwa housing project.. and its not a british company i believe its german if im not mistaken.. my previous company is not subby its main contractor.. the company is fast track and residential not bridges and high ways..

You are challenging the wrong person. ask Apple for details!

prettiecattie - So you worked for Bill Finger Berger's Sub Contractor. The secretary of Human Resouce department is also a Philippina and she is a member of QL as well. She is my friend too.

Keep it up. He He He ................... 

Hate me for what I am,

Love me for what I am not...

Apple - So I resign and became jobless to protest them :). Now doing a part time job in QL :)

Apple I was the Contracts Manager Qatar for for a German Co. I got only QR 5000 :( May be beacause I am not Canadian but Westerner work under me for much higher salaries. Canadians are the highest paid :)

prettie, are you sure you are a sr. admin asst.?

my question was based on your previous post in some of your own thread, you dont sound like an admin asst.? But i could be wrong though!

Prettiecattie: the offer is too small for a project manager specially hi s canadian..

I wonder if Canadians manage projects differently. :) I can't imagine how Canada scores high in project management. I even checked the top 50 business schools in the world. I can't figure one from Canada.

Nothing personal pretty cattie. You just insulted a lot of Project Managers here.

"Life is like a bicycle, if it's too easy - you're probably going down :)"

So am I. But I get only QR 5000 a month. I wrote that comment out of jealousy. here I work like a dog for QR 5000 and there your husband getting cool money. Outright Discrimination :(

Qatar pay well for westerners. We easterners get peanuts ;( 

Depending on your degree/ experience/ negotiations etc... I would say the offer sounds low....and as everyone already said make you sure you leave no detail unaccounted for (especially housing, travel home for vacations, and schooling).

Stay safe. 

Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?

I remember my texbooks from university, 1880 pages of paper so thin it was almost see through and you needed a microscope to read it LOL.

Ah good memories. You are very welcome by the way.

Stay safe.

Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?

do ignore Charan ...

thanks for clarifying ragnarock, very much appreciate it  ... it seems more complicated than being a UK citizen.

If a Canadian lives more than 182 days abroad, they are eligible to apply for non-resident status (but they have to let their drivers licence, medicare cards, and stuff like that expire...also they have to have all property in Canada not available for immediate use, ie rented to a non related party)...if they do apply for this status, then they pay taxes in the country they DO reside in (if it happens to be a place like Qatar, where there is no income tax, then they are set).

Hope that helps.

Stay safe.

Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?

dont be rude and never judge anyone without knowing them.. my husband has been in the business for 25 years his been all over the world like california, germany, uk and mexico.. how dare you to say that.. shame.. Tosser..

prettiecattie ... i know what you mean. If we have to move out from our villa, means thats the time we moving on.

me and my husband used to live in beverly towers for 5 months it is more than 16k we are paying 19600 for 2 bedroom fully furnished in 23rd floor and its not good in our pad apartment coz there is no vintellation so we have to find a new accomodation. better to look for a villa instead of living in condo.. villa you had a pivacy..

No womder they sacked him. too much money for the little job he was doing :)

i am wondering does canadian have to pay income tax while he works abroad?

your computation is very wrong he is a westener.. so most probably he spend more than that.. the offer is to small for a project manager specially hi s canadian..

No, the package is not good enough for you- don't take it you would regret later, unless you desperately wants to go to the Middle East and Qatar .

Definitely not a villa. Maybe an apt. but I can't imagine it would be nice enough for a family. Villa will be 15-20, stand-alone or on a compound.

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Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Thanks Kalyan1962.

Could you please let me know where I can get a furnished 2 bed room apartment or villa in a nice location(Doha, Qatar) in the range of QR8,000- QR10,000.

Thanks again.

if i live in a landed property in my homecountry, i wouldnt want to come here and live in apartment part of the nice one like Beverly Hills tower. But that cost you over 16.000 a month for 2 bedroom.

i would suggest to ask the company to give you the house not allowance and pay the schooling in full.

Housing is extremely low. Also, who's paying for schooling? Rent and schooling are very high.

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Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

DESS charge 7500 QR a term for primary, while Compass over USD 16200 a year for primary, American School would be more.

Do your best to ask for a furnitued accomdation, this is a big item.

Childern Schooling (if any) is very important, at least QR 20K per kid

"Make a difference or make way"

Reasonable Salary

Answers to your questions are as below:

1) Around QR.2,500-3,000 on the higher side for a family of husband and wife plus two children. (Also depends on how do you spend)

2) Around QR.8,000-10,000 per month.

3) Around QR.1,000/- (QR.500 for W&E & QR.500 for Telephone)

4) Around QR.1,000/- (on an average) per month in a reasonably good school.

5) Miscellaneous - QR.1,000 per month

Based on the above, you can have saving of around QR.15,000 per month

Should you require any further clarification, please let me know.

good but if possible ask for accomodation from company itself.. its very hard to get good accomodation and very costly... 3 BR villa 15-20K

who paying for the school?